Geological Society statement about climate change

John B
No that isn’t sufficient. That is like saying I don’t no grammar because I said you have know clue about what I no in my previous post.
Studied environmental engineering at nation’s leading univ in engineering — many years ago — and passed many a test on the earth’s systems, including greenhouse effect. The purpose of my questions was entirely different than you suspect, and your arrogant assumption with virtually no information is emblematic of your unfounded confidence in your conclusions, regarding me and the climate. It is hubris, we know it when we see it. Hubristic people can’t see it in themselves and are beyond redemption.
If you want to admit that you have no clue about what I know, then maybe we could exchange ideas. If you’re going to be arrogant, then it is pointless.

John B
That’s the point, the willingness to draw conclusions based on terribly limited information is precisely what limits the use of your intelligence. You are assuming I didn’t know the answers to my questions before asking them. My purpose was to elicit exactly the kind of over-response that a couple of you fell for. It was my personal experiment in drawing out the psychological tendencies of alarmists. Let’s just say the results were consistent with my hypothesis.
Why would you think you could draw any conclusion from such limited information? That question is much more pertinent, I would say absolutely central, to the climate discussion than the micro details you and your ilk like to throw around as substitutes for wisdom.
It is funny that you guys believe you are the scientists and rational people when you are really the superstitious ones, over believing in science that doesn’t yet exist and wanting to rely on models that are plausibly right until they are actually wrong, hoping to defend yourselves from the true randomness of our existence and future, but endangering the rest of us through over-zealous pursuit of your own superstitious belief in your potency and efficacy.
I am told that this personality trait is endemic to the human condition, intractable and unhearable and unbearable to the possessor. That seems to be true.

John B and Izen: (two peas in a pod)
Do you think it irrational to conclude that if a person asks a question they are most likely NOT to know the answer?!
Most likely? Maybe. But “most likely” is not certainly. And failure to consider things other than ‘most likely” leads to major errors. That is the entire point here. You are taking your limited knowledge and thinking you have the most likely answers and asking us all to treat you as if you have certainty. And I don’t even think CAGW is most likely at this point, from the information and science we have.
Considering “most likely” is very limited thinking, and running with it is perilous. That is what we are all trying to tell you alarmists. But, alas, I have resigned myself to having no impact of your superstitions of potency. Maybe others can be enlightened to learn the dangers of knowledge without wisdom and love.
And yes, I freely admit to my duplicity. That is the best way to entrap criminals and expose arrogance. Duplicity in the service of exposing wrong is acceptable to me, just like FBI agents posing as youngsters to entrap pedophilic predators.
I think the current debate over climate is not one of science, per se, but one of psychology and sociology. In my world, love is the ultimate, and love is not possible in the oppressive shadow of hubris. So I am ultimately pursuing my own belief in the primacy of love as the ultimate in the human condition. And of course I will protect my circle of love with vigilance and ferocity and duplicity, despite whatever claims of contradictions your limited understanding will want to throw back at me.
Any human imposed cure to the alleged disease of AGW, is many times more harmful to the human condition than AGW itself, if it exists to any material degree. Meaning, I will take my chances with the climate over corrupt, power-mongering humans attaining significant power

John B
I am quite pleased to hear that. If folks like you would take a step back and think more before talking, we wouldn’t have to waste so much of our precious time pushing back against folks like you.
What you can rest assured about is that we are not about to cede power or moral authority to technocrats or autocrats in the alleged name of our own well being.
All the shouting in the world about your superior knowledge and intellect is not going to inform us of anything, or change the mind of clear-thinking, right-minded, decent folk that populate this side of the blogosphere. You keep thinking it is only because we don’t understand what you are saying that we don’t agree with you and if you talk more or louder, we will eventually come along. We won’t.
It is not because we don’t understand what you are saying, or the unimpeachable rectitude of what you believe your views possess. We simply think you are playing God, and we don’t want any part of it. It is convenient that your ideas always lead to the same place — more power and authority to people like you and those you support.
Those who aspire to power and authority are least deserving of it. So, you are not informing me of anything. I have heard and examined all the arguments. You are overreaching your abilities and thus dangerous to love and liberty. There is really nothing for you to say. You don’t get that we get you — you just don’t get us. All your particles of knowledge will fail to make you wise or loved or safe in a chaotic and unpredictable world. The safety you seek is not attainable, no matter how hard you try.
Your belief otherwise results in you missing out on the best human existence has to offer.
Again, I do hope you can reform your approach and achieve love, modest wisdom and occasional peace. That’s is pretty much all this ride has to offer.

Yep.

John B says:
June 30, 2011 at 12:05 am
“Does Poe’s law apply here?”
I hope so.
I would much rather have been fooled into thinking ‘MARC’ is for real by someone smart than think there really is someone that much of a fool!.