Friends, prepare yourselves for this stunning collection of logic, green thinking, and simple unvarnished, outright hatred. Should we be thinking about getting ourselves off to secure locations in light of this? /sarc
Simon from Australian Climate Madness makes note of this from the Herald Sun, which is complicit (and editorially bankrupt) in printing this article from Jill Singer.
First, some stunning logic rationalization about the shame merits of lying to get to office:
Prime Minister Julia Gillard, as has been widely noted, misled our nation by declaring she wouldn’t introduce such a tax. The worst that can be said is that she lied. The best that can be said is that she lied because we can’t deal with the truth.
O-kaaaayyy……but this really takes the cake.
I’m prepared to keep an open mind and propose another stunt for climate sceptics – put your strong views to the test by exposing yourselves to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas – say, carbon monoxide.
You wouldn’t see or smell anything. Nor would your anti-science nonsense be heard of again. How very refreshing.
That’s some seriously ugly thinking lady.
I suppose Ms. Singer is justifying these thoughts as many do on the grounds of that favorite of noble cause corruption: save the planet. I’ll bet she thinks she’s being clever, even if harsh and naziesque.
Sorry, another angry green beat you to it years ago and I have dibs on it. It all started simply, when she called me a “WMD” for discussing my doubts about AGW:
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Take some responsibility
Chico Enterprise-Record
Article Launched: 05/22/2007 12:00:00 AM PDT
Anthony Watts seems to be a poster boy for right-wing ideology. This isn’t a distinction that one should be proud of considering the so-called “right” seem to be wrong on almost every issue. Even after hundreds of the world’s top scientists have documented that global warming has in fact been caused by the actions of man, he states that this is not true, that it is a natural occurrence. Just looking at Chico’s polluted skies tells me otherwise.
It seems that Republicans in general have a hard time taking responsibility for anything. The war in Iraq, brought to you by the lies of this illegitimate administration has been a horrendous mistake costing the lives of over 4,000 Americans if you include private contractors and over 650,000 Iraqi civilians. Most Republicans still believe there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I’ve come to believe that Republicans, especially people like Anthony Watts, are the WMDs.
— Sherri Quammen, Chico
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My response on my blog: (since I didn’t think it merited a letter to the editor response)
Fine Me
My friends at coffee this morning got a huge laugh out of Chico Peace and Justice Center member Sherri Quammen’s claim in a vitriol filled letter to the editor that I’m the “real WMD”.
For somebody who professes “peace and justice”, she sure seems to have a lot of anger to vent. She’s sent letters to all three newspapers, the ER, Chico Beat, and you’ll see the same letter come Thursday at the Chico News and Review I’m sure. Lately, the message of “peace on earth” seems to have lost the accessory clause of “goodwill towards men”. Though its hard to tell through her rant just what she dislikes about me most, it appears that my views and research into climate change must be the main factor.
I sent her a nice note last week, offering to meet and get acquainted over coffee or tea someday, (since we’ve never met) after the letter appeared in the Chico Beat, so far no response.
But that’s OK, being a public person, criticism comes with the territory. It’s an occupational hazard. I guess I should be honored that my threat level has been elevated. Poor Al Gore takes all sorts of flak daily.
Sooo….since I’ve been labeled a WMD, I think that I’ll have to look over my shoulder a lot to make sure I’m not being followed by police officers intent on giving me a ticket in case I go off in the Chico city limits. That’s a $500 fine you know.
To make it easier for people to spot me, I think I’ll get a T-shirt that says simply “BOOM”.
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And to that blog post, this is how she responded (emphasis mine):
Chico Enterprise-Record (Chico, CA)
July 1, 2007 Don’t deny the obvious
Author: Chico Enterprise-Record Section: Letters To The Editor
On his blog site, Anthony Watts states that my remarks in a letter to the editor did not seem that “peaceful” and since I am involved with the Peace and Justice Center I should display a “goodwill to man.” He’s right about the fact that I am upset about the current state of our nation under the corporate crooks in the White House and how it’s affecting our planet, because unlike him, I am paying attention.
Watts seems to enjoy researching this mysterious phenomenon called “global warming” that could bring not only human but all existence on this planet to extinction. So here’s a little research Watts can try at home. First, park his (most likely very large) car or SUV in his garage. Then close the door and start the engine. Sit there for a few hours and then (if he is still able) he can make an entry on his blog contemplating the effects of car exhaust on people in enclosed areas (like our atmosphere).
Why is it so important for this man and others like him to try and refute the obvious, shunning all responsibility for something that we are obviously responsible for? That is why I have labeled Watts a “WMD” which, especially in his case, could also stand for “weapon of mass deception.” — Sherri Quammen, Chico
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I didn’t bother responding to that letter.
Yeah I got the early dibs on angry irrational people suggesting I kill myself. It is such shame for eco-conscious people everywhere that this sort of ugliness continues to be represented by their brethren virtually identically today.
Andrew Bolt says that Lashing at sceptics does science no favour.
For the citizens of Australia who think that newspaper journalists should not be advocating the death of their neighbors simply because they have a different view on global warming, here is where you can complain, on her editorial page:
Jill Singer THE “debate” over a carbon tax in Australia has become high farce. It’s time for the game-playing to stop – on both sides of politics.
And also to the editor of the Herald Sun to demand an apology:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/help/contactus
I ask anyone lodging such a complaint to be respectful and don’t escalate. Stick to the issue at hand.
She should also consider what would happen if one tied concrete blocks from their ankles and then jumped into the deep end of a swimming pool – but no matter how much I dislike anyone’s politics, I would never desire them to actually do such a thing. However, since nearly all AGW proponents are rabid misanthropes, it’s hardly surprising that they constantly wish death upon any who are too difficult to enslave.
Don’t you have an electric car? I would think sitting in it in your garage would be a welcome break.
REPLY: Yes, well there’s that pesky hydrogen sulfide from charging which is also toxic. – Anthony
Does this ditz not know that CO2 is where oxygen comes from? if oxygen were not combining with carbon we would all be dead. CO2 is the best thing that ever happened to our planet. It also gave birth to the Green party but I won’t hold that against it. Seriously – is anyone really thinking of the consequences of runaway CO2 depletion? For every atom of carbon that is unburnt, 2 atoms of oxygen bind to iron or aluminum. You don’t get that oxygen back using petunias.
I wonder if, after offering that suggestion to us, she’d be willing to try an equally outrageous suggestion and, say, refrain from eating any food created using CO2?
Of course not, that would be silly, because of course I don’t know what I’m talking about and being a hindrance to all the people trying to save the world from the deniers.
I’m very shocked, Anthony, to read those two different issues. I probably shouldn’t be, because I can’t imagine any sane person making suggestions like that against a single person in an letters section or in any part of a newspaper.
Rick Bradford says:
And lets not forget the “Red Button” which, when pressed makes a skeptic magically explode. 🙂
They used to burn witches at the stake for bad weather…..I fear we have not exited the dark ages yet….
Chico- the Eugene Oregon of Northern California. Berkeley is well Berkeley. BTW.
Wife and I had several run-ins with the peace and justice crowd there. One Klown tied ram my
Motor home, with his peace sticker emblazoned Geo Metro. He cooled off when laid the ‘ol
.45 ACP on the Dash. CCW comes in handy…
We call’em “violent peace people” almost had a “I would KILL for peace ” bumper sticker made up…
Nick Stokes
The Herald Sun circulates in my home town too,thanks to the internet.I can travel the world now,therein lies the problem for alarmists.
I see you have picked your prophets just like Singer.How did you choose Jones and the rest above Linzden and the rest?
How do you justify your belief?
It’s a question I would like to ask Gillard.How does she know that the alarmist scientists are right?
Because a group of scientists told her,but a group of scientists are also telling her we may be in for cooling.
When there is dissent,why pick a side on such an issue?
I’m a fence sitter.I do not believe that scientists have a clue.They need more data,hundreds of years of data,but I also believe there is a chance that warmists may be right.If so,then the world is in for a tough time,because the Chinese government will do exactly as it pleases,the rest of the world will never dictate to China(and its allies).It’s not a wimpy western country riddled with guilt,so it was over before it began.
I’ve left a comment. Jill Singer is, I think trying to outdo Richard Glover from last week, but where do they get off? Speaking as someone who used to be a “dyed in the wool greenie” in Australia, I’m unfortunately not surprised. I’ve been thinking through the mindset of left-wing environmentalist types. I used to go to rallies against woodchipping, etc, and there were always many young men particularly, who were almost just there for a fight. So much anger in them, waiting to spill over into violence. I’m thinking its the left wing common thought, that they are missing out on the wealth, the abundance that the right-wing types are hoarding for themselves. It was a sense of frustrated entitlement. In Australia we now have the “chardonnay socialist” set ( I was once one of them), who are well educated, and left wing. I’m thinking they are suffering survivor guilt, (I know I was) and feeling the need to atone for their sins of having professional jobs and good incomes. That’s why they like the idea of paying a carbon tax, they can afford it and it assuages their guilt. If right wing types disagree, its obviously because they’re greedy and irresponsible, and don’t care for “our children”. At this point they become the violent thugs at the woodchipping rallies, in print. It’s not science or logic, its assuaging their guilt, that’s why they get so angry and violent.
The shrill noises coming from Jill are due entirely to the record breaking cold/wet weather currently afflicting the urban hubs of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney. Most of the austrailan population live in these cities and that’s where the greens have their support base…not in the country…obviously.
With everyone turning their heating up, and putting on an extra couple of layers of warm clothing…the Global Warming scare is fading fast from the public consciousness…don’t forget that a couple of years ago Australia was in a prolonged drought with heat waves, bushfires and water shortages to match…it was EASY back then to sell the Global Warming Hoax…harder now. They’re cornered, their political base is shrinking and TIME IS RUNNING OUT for their Carbon Tax…excellent.
Are Singer and Quammen on record anywhere regarding their actual “scientific” views on anthropogenic global warming, climate change, climate disruption – whichever particular branch of the religion they adhere to ?? Or is it just the usual “loadsa scientists say it’s so, and CO2 is a greenhouse gas so it must errrrm cause warming, or whatever the loadsa scientists say it does …..”. Even though they couldn’t state whether it warms, changes or disrupts !!! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
After thinking they were going to save the planet, being flushed down the toilet of history must cause a lot of psychological pain. Many posters on here over the years that I’ve been an avid reader have said that, based on the history of such demises, they would not be quiet on their way down. So I’m not getting angry at this drivel, or even being called anti-science. I’m just mentally accepting their noise, because I know it will soon, really soon, be overwhelmed by the sound of the actual flushing.
When you’re pissing them off, you’re doing something right.
Singer is a left-wing loony who’s upset because her pin up girl (Gillard) is sliding towards oblivion in the polls, partly because most Australians now don’t believe in AGW.
Take no notice of her.
I’m blowed if I know why the Herald Sun pays her. She’s probably only there as token balance for Bolt, McCrann et al.
No one even bothers to complain about her any more on the letters page.
Ironic in view of this article at Slashdot:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/climate-of-fear-scientists-face-death-threats/2185089.aspx?storypage=1
Save the planet? The planet doesn’t need saving. The people are (beep), but the planet’s doing just fine. – George Carlin
charles nelson says: June 21, 2011 at 9:20 pm
“The shrill noises coming from Jill are due entirely to the record breaking cold/wet weather currently afflicting the urban hubs of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney.”
Not cold in Melbourne, where Murdoch’s Herald-Sun is located. Ave max for June so far 15.5C, compared with longterm average of 14C.
And Noelene “I do not believe that scientists have a clue.”
Not my belief. I’ve been a scientist all my adult life, and I listen to their arguments. I think the consensus is sound.
Sounds like he has his head screwed on right. Maybe he can save the Poles from EU-destruction. Here’s hoping!
Anthony – you really should not let Ms Quammen’s SUV comment stand given you drive an electric car -the ultimate in irony and presumptive ignorance on her part!
I see this sort of rot spat out across the Australian MSM every day. Some days it’s a little less, but I getting tired of the misinformation being broadcast. Also reported at the Australian Climate Madmess facebook page the Kiwi’s are “winding back” their ETS due to economic reasons. Gillard failed to mention this, but Key wants a joint ETS solution between Aus and NZ. Although polls suggest Australians support a tax on carbon, most Australians don’t support Gillard. Just goes to show how duped Aussies have become.
I live in Melbourne, and I have no problem with the Herald Sun printing that tripe from Jill Singer. 1) The paper gives voice to more than one side in the debate, which is only fair. 2) Every time such people vent their opinion, the world gets another glimpse of their innate nastiness and violence. I trust to the intelligence of voters to make up their own minds about who makes more sense, and who is more trustworthy. The Herald Sun is a tabloid aimed squarely at the average reader, and it has the largest circulation in Australia. By printing that article, it has ensured that thousands of uncommitted voters will be nudged away from the eco-nazis. It’s the simplest method with such hate-filled extremists: give them enough rope.
I guess I am having an issue here. What’s the big deal with rhetorical bombs? So what if someone says people who do not believe that CO2 will exterminate life on Earth as we know it should off themselves? It is hateful and character revealing, sure, but is it really a good idea to suppress that behavior? If you are in the Serengeti and facing a roaring lion, you would instantly recognize the threat to your self. If properly armed, you can respond. That is what this behavior, and the behavior of all organizations and individuals openly promoting hate, amounts to. A roaring lion. We can shoot the lion and kill it. We can tranquilize the lion and cage it. Or just tranq it and leave. But if you force this behavior to become secretive, you are now in the Serengeti walking along when a poisonous asp bites you amidst the tall grass. Unprepared and unable to defend, the snake is likely to win. Especially if it gets a chance to bite a second time. Not only that, but a snake can slither away undetected.
Another fine example of the typical uninformed bigoted alarmist. Every time they spew their hate, more and more rational people see them for what they are……… misanthropists. Its a win for skeptics world wide. Tell Ms. Singer to keep up the good work and soon enough the world will see the truth. If someone was feeling generous, they could tell Ms. Singer, the truth doesn’t come packaged with a lie. And, if that lie was told for the cause what other lies have been told for the cause? Well, ……. countless.
No, I think you’re wrong again Nick. Try again. Monckton may be clownish in how he goes about things, and his example was in poor taste, but it wasn’t wrong. The quote is a man telling everyone else to stop thinking for themselves and just accept what someone says. I can’t see how that doesn’t parallel the indoctrination of propaganda-controlled dictatorships. Of course you don’t allow yourself to see this, you just see Monckton referencing the holocaust and ignore the subtle handwaving thought-control by self-proclaimed experts that he is illustrating. The use of nazi imagery shouldn’t distract the open mind from seeing the point being made.
I get a few menacing emails every day for no particular reason, so I doubt the fact that they get even fewer than the average person is any kind of severe persecution, although it’s still disgusting behavior on those rare occasions it occurs.
Australia has about as much affect upon international atmospheric pollution as Jamaica. But being white people, they are necessarily evil.