John Coleman on the recent solar slump announcement

John Coleman, founder of the weather Channel and now at KUSI-TV in San Diego passes on this video which I’m passing on to WUWT readers.

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Green Sand
June 16, 2011 3:53 pm

“Keep an ear and hope for the best”
Present day society will not cope well with a Maunder type event, so “hope for the best”

Kevin Schurig
June 16, 2011 3:54 pm

Nice presentation, especially at the end when he cautions against jumping on the “bandwagon” about a potential ice age. The Warmistas could learn much from his closing statement.

Mike
June 16, 2011 3:57 pm

Alarmist nonsense.

jorgekafkazar
June 16, 2011 3:58 pm

Pretty bad, very alarmist. “The Sun is Fading.” “dramatic impact.” “Going quiet.” “Solar depression.” “Hibernation” “Major setback.” Very exaggerated, given that a Maunder minimum is only one of many possible outcomes. Looks like the alarmists have a place to flee and do their rent-seeking.

TimO
June 16, 2011 4:00 pm

Looks like Al Gore didn’t get that unlimited cash machine passed into law fast enough….

Jimbo
June 16, 2011 4:21 pm

Never listen to consensus on warming or cooling. (Yeah, I know, most of us would like to see strong and prolonged cooling to terminate this AGW zombie once and for all .)
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttLBqB0qDko&w=425&h=349%5D

Gary Hladik
June 16, 2011 4:31 pm

I agree with jorgekafkazar: Overly dramatic until the very last bit. I don’t care for Chicken Littles on either side of the fence. We can’t count on a new Little Ice Age to save us from the CAGW fraud, and we shouldn’t wish for one. But if the skeptics keep nibbling away at its rotten foundations, the whole corrupt structure will collapse.

Big Dave
June 16, 2011 4:45 pm

Must be CO2 leaking over to the sun and changing everything! It’s still our fault and it’s worse than thinkers ever thought!!!!
Cheers,
Big Dave

Jimbo
June 16, 2011 4:48 pm

Here are 150 years of global warming and cooling fears. http://newsbusters.org/node/11640
Why do some humans panic about the weather or climate? Why do some humans blame man for anomalous changes in climate or weather? Is it a cultural thing? Is it a result of guilt of the relatively wealthy? Is this the birth of a new Western Earth religion?

Aparicia
June 16, 2011 5:11 pm

recently posted by a warmista
“My worry would be a global cooling, if it occurs, would mean people turn up their central heating, drive more as they dont like going out in the cold etc and thus use more fossil fuels and consequently increase global warming.”
shows level of education

Mac the Knife
June 16, 2011 5:24 pm

Jimbo,
Thanks for the links.. good fodder for those ‘soft supporters’ of AGW!

moptop
June 16, 2011 5:39 pm

I have been saying it for years, soon we will be feeding cows beans to fight off the cold. ‘Course I was just joking, or so I thought….

Amino Acids in Meteorites
June 16, 2011 6:01 pm

The same video now on YouTube

Scott
June 16, 2011 6:07 pm

There are some here from the planet Vulcan who aren’t familiar with the old fashioned “tongue in cheek” type humour employed by Mr Coleman. It’s a wry dry sort of humour humans sometimes use to gently poke fun at seriously held views. The irony is, you’re not likely to “get it” if it needs to be explained.

June 16, 2011 6:09 pm

I think “announcment” is spelt wrong, is there not an “e” in announcement. 🙂

June 16, 2011 6:11 pm

We need to start pumping out CO2 even faster! Maximum emission to save us from the minimum!

June 16, 2011 6:12 pm

Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
June 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm
“The same video now on YouTube”
Thanks For that link, I didn’t like the idea of reinstalling flash again! 🙂

Chris
June 16, 2011 6:20 pm

My opinion of this is…well if the medieval people could deal with it….so can we.

higley7
June 16, 2011 6:24 pm

jorgekafkazar says: June 16, 2011 at 3:58 pm
“Very exaggerated, given that a Maunder minimum is only one of many possible outcomes.”
If the known cyclical factors of the Sun, from the ~11 year solar cycle to the 70, 200, and 600 year patterns and run them at the same time, they create an interference pattern which nicely recreates the solar cycle sunspot numbers from the Maunder Minimum all the way up to today’s solar cycle 24. Following the interference pattern forward, we see, oh, another Maunder Minimum for the next two cycles. Fancy that! No computer model needed, just examination of history and detectable patterns. The prediction here is NOT one of many possible outcomes; it is the most likely outcome, however.

ROM
June 16, 2011 6:29 pm

Just a small question? Considering the length and depth of the past ice ages particularly over the last billion years of the solar system’s existence and the apparent comparatively short periods of a warm global climate over those same billion years that can be geologically verified, have the solar scientists got it all wrong when it comes to the usual and scientifically accepted behavior of the Sun.
Is the natural state of solar activity far more likely to be in the lower ranges of activity when measured against the very active late 20th century standards which we have all assumed, perhaps falsely, was the usual resting state our Sun’s activity?
Or is our Sun just another lazy cool fire ball, relatively speaking, powered by a coast along fusion process with the occasional odd small, few tens or hundreds of thousands of years long flare ups, one such flare up with it’s increased activity which just happened to have coincided with the rise of mankind and his civilisations..

Roger Knights
June 16, 2011 6:32 pm

It would be pretty amusing if the pranksters on Olympus unleashed Jack Frost on the hotheads.

u.k.(us)
June 16, 2011 6:47 pm

Jimbo says:
June 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
“Why do some humans panic about the weather or climate? Why do some humans blame man for anomalous changes in climate or weather? Is it a cultural thing? Is it a result of guilt of the relatively wealthy? Is this the birth of a new Western Earth religion?”
==========
It used to be the danger, and fascination.
It has since morphed into a business model.

Moderate Republican
June 16, 2011 6:47 pm

“In response to news inquiries and stories, Dr. Frank Hill issued a follow-up statement:
“We are NOT predicting a mini-ice age. We are predicting the behavior of the solar cycle. In my opinion, it is a huge leap from that to an abrupt global cooling, since the connections between solar activity and climate are still very poorly understood. My understanding is that current calculations suggest only a 0.3 degree C decrease from a Maunder-like minimum, too small for an ice age. It is unfortunate that the global warming/cooling studies have become so politically polarizing.”
http://www.nso.edu/press/SolarActivityDrop.html

June 16, 2011 6:53 pm

Looking at the data I am concerned about the effects of a protracted solar minimum. The modern age has not been this stressed for 100’s of years. To thrive in this type of climate, we will need to remove restrictions for energy consumption and food production. I am not sounding the alarm and screaming to the rafters, however, history shows us that this is not a state of the solar system to ignore. We will survive it, the question will be at what cost.

higley7
June 16, 2011 6:54 pm

Jimbo says:June 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
“Why do some humans panic about the weather or climate? Why do some humans blame man for anomalous changes in climate or weather?”
Jimbo, it’s a scam to make money, accrue power, and alter the world, depending on who you are. There are a number of elements here.
1) ManBearPig Gore and friends want to make money off carbon trading and investing early in gov’t subsidized green companies; gov’t mandates ensure that there will be a forced market for the products—they cannot fail.
2)The radical environmentalists, who really do not like people (there are many too many in their opinion), get all kinds of validation and get to be on the winning side as the global warming scam makes all humans the bad guys.
3) Politicians and gov’ts see a chance to gain huge power over the people, the economy, and have unprecedented levels of control over the individual. They also see huge potential new revenue streams through carbon taxes and credits auctioning and trading. A projected $600 billion from carbon was even in the US administration’s budget last time one was presented in 2009. That failed totally, but the gov’t was salivating and already planning how to spend it. They want to create a false carbon economy based on a false crisis.
4) The socialists see a great chance, as the global warming scam is global, to force the creation of a one-world gov’t which would have to be totalitarian and socialist (the Club of Rome’s dream scenario).
5) The IPCC was set up as a highly funded propaganda machine to create a case for Draconian regulations of all economies and virtually every form of human activity and product. They fund a subset of scientists such that they have to support the scam claims or lose their funding. You cannot trust a man when the welfare of his family and his job depends on agreeing with his employer. We now have a class of subverted “scientists.”
As there is no real science supporting the IPCC junk science claims, they have to prevaricate, alter, fabricate, generate ad hominem attacks, and claim conspiracy when real science and real world facts contradict them. With IPCC funding levels over a 1000 times greater than the skeptics, the warmists claim foul when people with brains in the public tend to believe real science and not the bedwetting warmist claims that never come true.
No, this is not cultural, it is not psychological, it is a perfect storm of largely opportunistic, dishonest, and/or radical people and governments taking advantage of the public by utilizing one of Hitler’s most effective strategems: Make the lies big, repeat them often, and the people will believe.

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