So far, the only climate refugees I’ve ever seen in reality are the ones that travel from NYC, Boston, Minneapolis, and other cold winter locations to escape to Florida and Arizona during November-March.
I have to laugh at this though:
Climate disruption will be the defining issue of this century and probably for centuries to come. No famine, no war, no plague, not even natural disasters will compare with the impacts of this event on human civilization.
Story here
Yeah sure, just a few years ago nobody was talking about “climate disruption”. Now we have another hockey stick. Funny how when we had weather disasters before nobody knew it was actually climate disruption and not simply plain old weather. See this Google ngram graph plotting the frequency of use of the phrase “climate disruption”.
h/t to reader GregO
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May I ask the obvious question? Thanks,
How did they eliminate weather? I don’t want crickets for an answer.
What total balderdash. Why did I even read it?
Living around 200 miles east of Portland and near the same elevation, the climate change going on this year in the northwest is definitely toward cooling. With temperatures 10 – 15 degrees F. below normal, we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the normal growth of local crops. And, this evening (Thursday, June 9, 2011) the setting sun produced a beautiful sun dog which doesn’t happen here very often in June.
The runoff this year is of epic proportions. This is basically all statement with no facts presented. The writer Kat West should be sent back to school for retraining and rehab. We should not let these polluters of fact get away unchallenged. Looks OK to me.
http://lakepowell.water-data.com/
Oregon, in October, when not as many heating vents or A/Cs affect thermometer stations, shows no trend:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Lxqre8hMG3M/Sxso3kv4_3I/AAAAAAAAAzw/CBf3FV_DuRE/s1600-h/weatherOregoncooling.gif
Find your own state here on Glenn Morton’s blog: http://themigrantmind.blogspot.com/2009/12/hundred-years-of-october-cooling.html
Perhaps they can be housed in all the unused tents that were purchased for the UN-predicted millions of climate refugees that were sure to appear by 2010.
And here I thought that being a hardcore skeptic of anthropogenic climate disruption/change/global warming (or whatever) here in western Oregon pretty much defined me as a climate change refugee. So when y’all come out here to take our water, bring your money because Salem needs it for windmill payola.
If you hack around on this link:
http://lakepowell.water-data.com/
Excellence in civil engineering to manage the water from up north and irrigation, and modern energy technology enabling air-conditioning have made the desert southwest a great place to live. It is beautiful here in the Phoenix Arizona area for example. It’s where I call home. However, I was born and raised in Portland, Oregon and visit my family there often.
I will not be fleeing Phoenix anytime soon due to Climate Disruption. This year for example has been fabulous.
It is well known that Oregonians are, in general, somewhat less than amenable to outsiders moving into their state. However, the idea that “disruptive” climate change as a direct result of human activity will drive climate refugees to relocate to Oregon to escape climate calamity is laughable in the extreme. However, its dreary climate (in western Oregon) can only be attractive to a few. In addition, since “climate disruption” will supposedly cause increased precipitation somewhere and since that somewhere will, supposedly, not be in places like the southwest US, then “climate disruption” will result in even more dreary weather in the state.
The important question to the rest of us is, how will this “climate disruption” affect the production of the state’s excellent pinot noir wine? That is my major concern.
Never, in the history of mann (sic) has anyone moved to Portland for climate.
Also, how can anyone take global warming seriously when Phoenix, Tampa, and Memphis have hockey teams and Portland does not? Seriously, folks.
I will be fleeing Tucson this summer and will take a short refuge in Portland. The AGW here in the desert is unbearable in August, but climate disruption fortunately calms down in the winter months, so I will be back.
How and where do we start? First, our bright-line test should be “no new money for old ways.” Let’s draw a line in the sand and commit through all our planning and investments to integrated land use, transportation, [etc.]….
Warning, don’t no one make a move until Portland has installed that
current liberal fetishsustainability-sustaining “light rail” line!Wow. Portland must be some sort of paradise.
I missed the obvious when last there. Seemed like another constipated liberal city living off the the dying remnants of the people who actually built the place.
This is another (humourous) example of the central conceit which animates the moral vanity brigade: It’s all about them. Everything that really matters is going to happen in their lifetime because, after all, they are so important. It’s the “Age of Aquarius” and 7,000 people doing TM simultaneously to alter the consciousness of the planet all over again. There’s a certain 2005 book whose first line was “It’s not about you”. If only our fantasist, alarmist friends could learn this one lesson then half (all?) of the rubbish, agit-prop that masquerades as journalism or informed comment would vanish in an instant.
n.b – Portland’s proposed one “light rail” line with its two car limit, because otherwise, if it stops, it blocks real traffic.
NikFromNYC says:
June 9, 2011 at 10:16 pm
“Find your own state here on Glenn Morton’s blog: http://themigrantmind.blogspot.com/2009/12/hundred-years-of-october-cooling.html”
Looking at the graphs I see no indication of the US exiting the LIA. No warming trend except slight for Nevada and Utah but the Nation as a whole shows maybe some minor warming since LIA.
Each state and the country as a whole looks pretty flat temp wise.
WT……?
The Mad Dhog lives in Portland doesn’t he?
I saw an interview with Prince Phillip who has just turned 90. He said that he cares for the environment but that you didn’t need to be a “bunny hugger” to do that. Are you listening, Prince Charles?
It was -1.2C in parts of Scotland last night. June 9th.
Meanwhile in the real world:
Record snowpack has recently been indicated in the Western US.
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/ftpref/data/water/wcs/gis/maps/WestwideSWErecord.pdf
Why are we being constantly told that climate disruption is here and climate disruption is expected in decades time. The only disruption from drought is record breaking snowpack levels in the West. Remember how Australia was supposed have more frequent droughts???? Their dams weren’t told.
“I have to laugh at this though: ”
Please don’t laugh, some of us have to live in the same state as these crackpot green shirts.
Thanks
JK
Last winter there were several days when it was much colder in Portland, OR, than Minneapolis, MN. I’m sure Portlanders provide their own share of “climate change refugees.”
The population of Britain in 1940 was 46million. It is now 62million. The extra 16million people are supported on food and goods imported from overseas. The UK economy grew during the period in line with a similar growth in the consumption of energy. Therefore if we roll back the energy consumption to where it was in 1940 we will need to roll back the economy to where it was in 1940 and that means reducing the population by 16million people. If that ain’t disruption I don’t know what is.
On my very first visit to Portland some years ago we landed in pouring rain.
After getting my bags and stepping outside to get a cab it was still throwing it down. I turned to a kid standing next to me and I said ” Hey kid does it always rain like this in Portland?”.
He looked back at me and said ” How the hell should I know I’m only ten years old”.
Old one I know *grin* but I have been back on many occasions and it is always raining. I don’t plan on being a refugee there, that’s for sure.