DEAUVILLE, France: Russia, Japan and Canada told the G8 they would not join a second round of carbon cuts under the Kyoto Protocol at United Nations talks this year and the US reiterated it would remain outside the treaty, European diplomats have said.
The future of the Kyoto Protocol has become central to efforts to negotiate reductions of carbon emissions under the UN’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, whose annual meeting will take place in Durban, South Africa, from November 28 to December 9.
Developed countries signed the Kyoto Protocol in 1997. They agreed to legally binding commitments on curbing greenhouse gas emissions blamed for global warming.
Those pledges expire at the end of next year. Developing countries say a second round is essential to secure global agreements.
But the leaders of Russian, Japan and Canada confirmed they would not join a new Kyoto agreement, the diplomats said.
They argued that the Kyoto format did not require developing countries, including China, the world’s No. 1 carbon emitter, to make targeted emission cuts.
At last Thursday’s G8 dinner the US President, Barack Obama, confirmed Washington would not join an updated Kyoto Protocol, the diplomats said.
The US, the second-largest carbon emitter, signed the protocol in 1997 but in 2001 the then president, George W. Bush, said he would not put it to the Senate for ratification.
Agence France-Press, 29 May 2011
h/t to Dr. Benny Peiser
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Thank you for this article Anthony. – Things are now becoming urgent:
I think it is now high time for me to buy some “Real Estate” in Antarctica as without a refreshed KYOTO agreement Antarctica is likely to be the world’s only habitable continent by the end of this century if global warming remains unchecked, ——— the Government’s chief scientist, Professor Sir David King, said in April —————– 2004.
@walt man
I agree 100% and join you in condemning China and India for not showing a moral lead on this issue
Tom Grey writes “He is remembered as one of the worst prime minsters that Ontario ever had.”
First, a minor point. Ontario does not have a Prime Minister; it has a Premier. Second, I, for one, do not regard Bob Rae as a bad Premier. He was unfortunate to be in charge during a financial crisis. He applied all the standard socialist methods to solve the problem, and they did not work. So he applied all the capatilist ideas as to how to solve the problem, and they did work. In doing so, he succeeded in making himself unpopular with just about everyone. My late wife and I once played tennis against Bob and his wife; they were a delightful couple.
Tim Ball says on May 29, 2011 at 11:48 am:
“ ————. There is too much invested in the CO2 reduction game with its potential for increased taxes, more government control and development of the completely inadequate replacements of alternate energies for abandonment.”
Too right Tim, – pension funds, – “China Bonds”- renewable energy generating plant production (i.e. La Mancha produced wind-mill blades). Oh dear, oh dear what is it coming to Don Quixote – slayer of dragons, windmills and defender of ladies in distress.
Peter says:
May 29, 2011 at 9:36 am
“I see this year they’re being very careful to have their meeting in a place where there’s little or no possibility of cold weather”
It won’t be cold by northern standards – just wet, windy and miserable. The heat doesn’t usually arrive till the second or third week of December. Pre-summer storms could result in some flooding which would give the warmists another example of “things are getting worse”.
walt man says:
May 29, 2011 at 11:40 am
“Fom the link in DirkH May 29, 2011 at 10:22 am
“However, the move towards sustainable energy systems can only succeed if, […]closed down immediately. However, the phase-out of nuclear energy must not be compensated by renewed or intensified brown or black coal based energy generation.”
Does this sound so bad.”
Well, they also urge a UN sustainability council responsible for a worldwide suppression of whatever they deem unsustainable. (They have the time to put it in more gentle words than I, being full time paid public masterplanners.) Last time i checked no UN personnel was democratically elected by you or me. Read more here.
http://notrickszone.com/2011/05/28/schellnhubersmerkels-authoritarian-wbgu-blasted-from-all-sides-mocked-no-one-intends-to-build-a-wall/
No Climate progress to share the headlines? Surely they are crowing the Joplin tornado was the tipping point.
I believe that Senate had a Democrat majority from the 1950’s to 2002. To blame the Senate’s failure to ratify the Kyoto Accord on Bush is revisionist (read Stalinist) history intended to paint Bush as an evil climate failure.
I believe that the climate failure is Gore – not Bush.
Al Gored says:
May 29, 2011 at 11:58 am
“People like this aren’t going to give up easily:
http://www.thegwpf.org/international-news/3095-germany-sliding-head-over-heels-into-the-eco-dictatorship.html
Expect some absolutely fantastic Big Lies to try to scare the lemmings into line. Hard to imagine how they could top what they have done so far but I am sure they will try.”
You should have seen the reports about Fukushima in the German media, and the ensuing and still raging anti nuclear demonstrations here. Big Lie describes it very well; the media had a field day. Now, 10 people here are already dead from EHEC carrying organic cucumbers, probably the cucumbers have been tainted by being fertilized with residue from biogas plants. Nobody demonstrates against that. The masses here are completely deluded and run into the rat trap voluntarily. I watch the crazy ways of my fellow citizens with incredulity.
At face value, ideas like this often sound great, especially when you take them at face value and don’t think them through. Who could be against “fairness,” “compassion,” or doing something “for the children?”
But the rub, ah the rub, comes in actual implementation. Perhaps you feel the best solution to inequality is to bring down those whom you feel have more, while I know the best answer to poverty is the creation, and NOT the redistribution, of wealth.
I love this news!
On a related note: Andrew Weaver is speaking at the Canadian Congress of the Humanities and Social Sciences being held at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on Tuesday May 31, at the Ted Daigle Auditoriam, Edmund Casey Hall, UNB. I post this here as his talk is not about his science; rather he has joined the rear-guard action to try to re-whip up a frenzy in the uninformed populace about the reality of global warming. I guess governments in the more savvy western countries finally realize that even if the hype were true, the economic costs just aren’t worth the ‘fight’ against global warming. I don’t know if I will be gong as my association has a meeting at the same time, and I’m also not sure my blood pressure could stand the bafflegab.
Anyway, here’s the attached blurb in the Congress Delegates’ Guide:
“Canadians across the country are already feeling the effects of a warming climate. Yet, there is much confusion and misinformation complicating the public’s understanding of the issue. A stew of science, economics, ideology and spin characterize the discourse on global warming- making it almost impossible for citizens to develop informed opinions on the topic.
In his 2011 “Big Thinking” lecture at the Congress of the Humanities and Social Sciences, Andrew Weaver will explore how climate scientists can effectively communicate with the media, government, and the public, resulting in evidence-based public policy and better informed citizens making choices about their future.
A recognized expert in both climate science and science communication, Andrew Weaver holds the Canadian research Chair in Climate Modelling and Science at the University of Victoria, British Columbia.
And where does that leave the EU and its subject client region the former UK I wonder? Up a certain creek without a certain motivational implement. The CAGW industry has just received a mortal blow from which it cannot recover. When the final bill comes in for the CAGW fraud it will run to hundreds of billions of pounds utterly wasted.
What price the UKs own mandatory carbon reduction plan which will now be less than meaningless, an insane gesture from a generation of political leaders indoctrinated and fascinated by gesture politics. The UK was in at the start of the CAGW fraud and it will probably be the last to abandon this most grotesque of modern nightmares.
P.S. Spring in Fredericton is about a month behind here compared to last year, according to my sister-in-law, who has been working at a garden centre. Cold, wet and miserable spring.
“It’s all over.” Now you are the one sounding alarmist.
a jones says:
May 29, 2011 at 12:02 pm
So this is how a dastardly plan for world domination finally ends, not with a bang but a long drawn out whimper instead. Hardly James Bond is it? And hard to see how it can ever be revived…
Quite right. When I was a lad (in sunny Lancashire) these people were just called ‘cranks.’ One World Government is nothing but a psychopath’s wet dream. I suppose there are still a number of these around in the political world, and their ‘useful idiots.’ I expect there will be attempts.
Yay! Let’s hear it for Canada! An often overlooked and ignored country – and frankly, we prefer it that way 🙂
Fodge Greenpeace. I’m sure Ecotretas agrees 🙂
It’s clear that Julia’s Carbon Dioxide tax here in Australia will have such a huge impact on reducing the terrible consequences of cataclysmic global warming that the fact that these minor nations pull the pin will no longer matter.
/sarc/
Bold move from Harper but Oh man… we will get flooded by Liz May and Suzuki about this. They will produce more than their share of CO2 from the hot air they will spew.
Ellis says:
May 29, 2011 at 11:12 am
George understood the uncertainties involved.
He should have stopped there instead of continuing on with the blah, blah blah.
walt man @ur momisugly
May 29, 2011 at 11:40 am : Existing plants should be replaced by sustainable energy technologies as soon as possible, and, in the case of evident safety deficiencies, be closed down immediately. However, the phase-out of nuclear energy must not be compensated by renewed or intensified brown or black coal based energy generation.”
Does this sound so bad.
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Yes, it does if by “sustainable energy technologies” they meant wind and solar PV. Both are very expensive, not always available, don’t save as much CO2 as folk claim, cause other forms of pollution (noise, flicker, bird slicing, pollution from rare earth extraction, visual pollution, etc).
No modern society can function without continuous power, and if these renewables get above a small % of total generation, extra spinning and hot standby reserve is needed to compensate for lulls, emitting CO2 for no result, and grid stability can be a problem too.
A proper evolution is needed, over longer time, probably gas to substitute for coal, while building more and safer nuclear, and researching other technologies such as Thorium reactors. Parallel with major energy efficiency drives, house insulation, and such things as solar thermal for water heating/pre heating, heat exchangers on clean waste water, etc.
CAGW panic helps no one.
I know it’s been said a million times, but as some still don’t get it I’ll repeat it in simple terms:
CO2 emissions = productivity. Agreeing to cut CO2 emissions = agreeing to cut productivity or to move production and manufacturing to another country.
Way to destroy the economies of the countries who make the biggest contribution in terms of goods and ingenuity, i.e. the industrialised world.
This about sums up Maurice Strong’s dream.
Nice to see our allies, especially our friends to the north, step in to help when we’ve injured ourselves. We hope this is a temporary disability lasting ’til late 2012 or so.
walt man says:
May 29, 2011 at 11:40 am
……
Where is the consideration for our grand children’s future. You are surely not leaving it to them to sort out our power mess and possibly our GW mess. Very sad
end quote
It IS my children (and putative grandchidren) I’m thinking of.
I don’t want them to inherit an energy scare/energy expensive feudal society.
We can’t afford as a society to cripple our industries any more.
We can’t afford as humanity to go back to energy starved economies – those that do NOT have cheap power – as they condemn people to short brutal lives.
Think of the children indeed; think of the children who will never live beyond age 5 as energy poor economies have child mortality rates approaching 50%.
Think of those who; because there is no mechanical power have to live as beasts of burden (sew the glowing references to using rickshaws here : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthcomment/geoffrey-lean/8543152/Hay-Festival-For-the-greenest-nation-look-west.html#dsq-content – rickshaws indeed).
Think of YOUR children having the choices typical of the underclasses in the middle ages; whilst hearing stories told by the wandering minstrels of the wonders their grandfathers stupidly gave up for a myth.
10/10 for getting it wrong – no pressure !
R. I. P.