This is a shout out for people to have a look at:
Some background:
From http://www.galileomovement.com.au/who_we_are.php
We care about freedom, security, the environment, humanity and our future.
The Galileo Movement’s co-founders are retirees Case Smit and John Smeed. Their business backgrounds are in science and engineering – science’s real-world application. Their experience is in environmental protection and ensuring air quality.
At first they simply accepted politicians’ claims of global warming blamed on human production of carbon dioxide (CO2). When things didn’t add up, they each separately investigated. Stunned, they discovered what many people are now discovering: climate claims by some scientists and politicians contradict observed facts.
Case Smit (left) and John Smeed
Supported by their wives and risking their personal finances they underwrote and organised an Australian tour by Lord Monckton – famous for explaining the scientific data, the statistics and the UN bureaucracy’s political fabrication of global warming alarm.
Overwhelmed by enormous public response, John and Case discovered that people feel confused. In their gut many Australians sense that climate change is natural and that climate has always been changing. People want to discover understanding and clarity for themselves.
Through their voluntary effort, Case and John freed many people previously afraid to speak out publicly.
Mixing with everyday Aussies during the tour they became frustrated: despite the tour’s huge success, it got little media reporting. The key to ending corruption of science and politicised misappropriation of public funds is to reach out to people directly by enabling people to discover climate reality themselves. People are then free to protect Australia, workers, families, jobs and industry against politicised misrepresentation of science. Voters will have the power to influence politicians of all parties to vote against any carbon dioxide taxing or ‘trading’.
This site explains Case’s and John’s apolitical public campaign. It gives visitors reassurance and ease on climate. It’s a rallying point to a mainstream media voice for the growing majority of Australians wanting to reclaim their lives from media spin and politicians’ control.
It provides clear, easy choices. It shows how we can each confidently express our care by taking simple effective action – to stop all carbon dioxide taxes and ‘trading’ schemes and protect our security, freedom, environment and future.
Co-founders:
The Galileo Movement is the initiative of two retirees – Case Smit and John Smeed – strongly supported by their wives Corrie and Suzanne.
Case Smit:
Case was founder and owner of Environmental Health Services (Aust) Pty Ltd, an organisation that monitored and advised on the effects of their environment on people’s health. Science degree, BSc (chemistry & metallurgy), Certified Industrial Hygienist, Chartered (Environmental) Professional; He’s a grandad.
John Smeed:
John is a retired, national engineering excellence award winning professional engineer – www.johnsmeed.com.au. He founded and built a successful Sydney based Australia-wide operational, design-construct air conditioning company with 140 staff including 14 professional engineers. He maintains control of an environmentally excellent Australian combustion technology company and still undertakes occasional international engineering consulting briefs for unusually challenging air-conditioning projects.
Case and John both live on the waterfront in Noosa and are both concerned about the horrifying economic and social implications of the proposed legislation for taxing and ‘trading’ carbon dioxide. The huge impact on their children’s and grandchildren’s future stimulates their dedication to exposing and ending the Government’s dangerous campaign.
Both remain passionate about protecting the environment and the use of objective science based on real-world evidence. They see the Galileo Movement as a vehicle for people to contribute to the progress of the last five hundred years by confronting the falsehoods of Post Normal Science and promoting support for Real World Science to make people’s lives safer, easier, more comfortable, healthier, wealthier and freer.
Founders’ backgrounds on global warming:
John and Case initially accepted claims of global warming due to human activity. As appliers of science in the real world, they quickly became aware of inconsistencies in the political claims and spin. They each did their independent research to separately discover that political claims contradicted real-world science.
They are incensed by activists and academics misrepresenting science to falsely claim global warming is harmful and caused by humans. They are concerned by academics and activists hiding behind the appeal to authority, yet mostly unwilling to debate the facts in public.
Why Galileo?
Galileo Galilei (1564 to 1642) is a ‘father of science‘. An Italian physicist, mathematician, astronomer and philosopher, he played a vital role in the Scientific Revolution. He stood up publicly and almost lost his life to ensure objective science replaced superstition, ideology, ignorance and state control. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo
The ‘settled science‘ and frightened consensus of his peers was that the sun orbited Earth. Galileo proved them wrong. He then stood up to the entrenched, dogmatic religious and state beliefs suppressing the truth.
Thanks to Galileo and his early peers, objective science was born and replaced central control and intimidation. We enjoy freedom and many material blessings that make our life easier, safer, longer, more secure, more peaceful, wealthier and happier.
Taking his name, we honour his integrity and courage in championing freedom and protecting science. He replaced religious doctrine with solid observable data. His outspoken defence of truth is a rallying cry to all people valuing freedom and objective understanding of the world. His spirit guides us to ensure that we and future generations continue making the world a better place to live – by protecting the environment and making honest decisions based on factual scientific evidence.
Galileo had the courage to stand apart from the mob of philosophers and scientific explorers who bowed to bullying from religious and Government authority. He was enslaved that we could be free. His greatest gift is beyond his science, it is our freedom. Although he suffered, ironically the world has come around to him.
That is now threatened as ideology seeks to replace science and control seeks to replace freedom.
Project Leader
They invited Malcolm Roberts to be Project Leader. An engineer by training, his managerial and leadership experience included statutory responsibility for thousands of people’s lives based on his knowledge and real-world experience of atmospheric gases, including carbon dioxide. As a leader and then adviser in industry, he has dirtied his hands leading the cleaning of environmental legacies and setting new standards in environmental protection.
For almost four (4) years Malcolm has researched the science and politics of global warming. He speaks out passionately and strongly after discovering fraudulent misrepresentations of the science by advocates claiming humans are guilty of causing global warming.
His publicly available Personal Declaration of Interests is available on his web site
During their careers, John, Case and Malcolm have often seen people being rewarded for pleasing their boss, even to the detriment of their employer. This fundamental flaw in statism is driving climate alarm. In Government, it threatens freedom. Galileo stood up to statism. That’s cherished and admired by The Galileo Movement.
Administrative Support and Liaison
All the above positions are currently filled by unpaid volunteers.
The company will pay for clerical assistance and secretarial support on an hourly basis.
Lenore-Maree is an independent freelance bookkeeper and office manager engaged hourly.
Wives and associates helped define the Galileo Movement’s Purpose, Aims, Philosophy and Principles.
Purpose and Aims of the Galileo Movement:
by exposing misrepresentations
pushing a ‘price on carbon dioxide’
The Galileo Movement seeks to protect Australians and our future in five areas:
– Protect freedom – personal choice and national sovereignty;
– Protect the environment;
– Protect science and restore scientific integrity;
– Protect our economic security;
– Protect people’s emotional healthby ending Government and activists’ constant destructive bombardment of fear and guilt on our kids and communities.
Addressing the real threat:
We address those five areas in four ways:
– Exposing UN IPCC misrepresentation of science, climate and Nature;
– Presenting real-world science and advocating for scientific evidence as the basis of policy;
– Revealing economic damage from needless additional taxation burdening people already reeling under high and rising costs of living;
– Revealing environmental damageof bureaucratic control taxing and ‘trading’ carbon dioxide.
Philosophy and Principles:
We see human freedom as essential for the benefit and progress of humankind and for protection of the environment. Freedom is the key to responsibility and sustainability.
With Earth’s large human population, environmental sustainability is essential for modern civilisation while civilisation is essential for sustainability. Instead of choosing either civilization or sustainability the reality is each needs and depends on the other.
Guiding Principles:
Governance and management of the Galileo Movement is guided by these principles:
– Freedom: protect freedom and let people be free. Challenge the increasing imposition of Government control on people’s lives;
– Honesty: rely on factual data, ensure decisions are based on facts;
– Fact based science: protect and use science, a key to human progress, objective and fair decisions and freedom;
– Respect for people: give people opportunity to speak up. Engage people so they want to be involved and are committed. Such people become owners. Give people a voice and provide a forum. It has been made politically incorrect, unfashionable and fearful to publicly state disagreement with the hypothesis that humans cause global warming. Convert that to an opportunity to take pride in speaking out. It’s OK to tell the truth. To factually express dissenting views is admired and valued;
– Environment: protect the environment. Separate political claims of global warming from the environment as two (2) separate issues;
– Non-political: The Galileo Movement is non-partisan. We want to appeal to all political parties;
– Life enjoyment:Life is for living and enjoying
Intimidation through fear and guilt has been the weapon spreading climate alarm. People have a right to be free from that unfounded fear and guilt. Hundreds of millions of the world’s poor have a right to environmentally responsible prosperity.
Developed nations have earned the conditions for people to have easier lives in harmony with the natural environment. The developed world’s progression to liberal democracy has provided the privilege of opportunity for full life enjoyment.
The push to restrict human production of carbon dioxide is deadly with negative life-changing implications. Our campaign is serious. We aim to replace the fear and guilt heaped on us by reconnecting with life’s inherent joy. We can have some fun.
Independent advisers:
The Galileo Movement has available expert advice from Australian and international specialists across all diverse fields of global warming including meteorology and climate science, palaeoclimate, physical sciences (physics, chemistry), life sciences (biology), social science (economics), formal science (mathematics, statistics), communication, law.
These experts include eminent professors, PhD’s, scientists and people with diverse life experience including: Professor Tim Ball, Warwick Hughes, Professor Fred Singer, Professor Dick Lindzen, Professor Bill Kininmonth, Professor Bob Carter, Professor Ian Plimer, David Archibald, Professor Peter Ridd, Professor Garth Paltridge, Dr Vincent Gray, Dr Jennifer Marohasy, Jo Nova, Des Moore, John Nicol, David Flint, Andrew Bolt, John McLean, David Evans and Viscount Monckton.
This group includes diverse opinions to promote healthy debate producing greater scrutiny and rigour. The Galileo Movement does not claim that any of these advisers or our many other advisers endorse all opinions or actions of The Galileo Movement or this web site. Nor is The Galileo Movement bound to follow the advice of all those who provide advice.
Malcolm Roberts has often invited evidence and data from advocates of human causes of global warming.
Patron:
The Galileo Movement’s patron is Australia’s own Alan Jones. Alan has a long history of speaking out for the downtrodden and for protecting freedom. His innate expertise straddles the fields of politics, sport and the media. His wealth of experience complements the basic science that is the Galileo Movement’s core.
Media Advisers:
Paid services as needed provided by Jackson Wells, Sydney.
Expected Life and Strategy:
Short-term: inform citizens through the internet and affiliated organisations.
Medium-term strategy: raise funding to inform citizens by influencing and purchasing media time.
The ultimate aim is to use pressure from voters and non-voters to persuade our politicians of all parties that restricting Australia’s production of carbon dioxide is futile, wasteful and dangerous.
Expected life-span: The intent is to terminate the Galileo Movement when the push to price carbon dioxide is destroyed. That’s anticipated to be by the next federal election.
Funding: The Galileo Movement Ltd is a non-profit company limited by guarantee (ACN: 149 463 687). Its two (2) directors are its co-founders: John Smeed and Case Smit.
It will invite memberships and donations to be used to inform Australians about climate and the danger and futility of taxing and ‘trading’ carbon dioxide.
The Galileo Movement will have expenses associated with web site, publicity, buying advice and contacts from professional media consultants and managing records and interacting with members.
As a non-profit organisation its intention is to devote all money raised to informing citizens.
Any surplus funds at the termination of The Galileo Movement will be donated to the Royal Flying Doctor Service to provide support to those in need of real climate research.
Accountants:
Houston and Company, Sydney.
Where possible and except where donors request anonymity, all donations will be identified with donors names for the purpose of maintain records and auditing.
Affiliations:
The Galileo Movement is building affiliations with climate, scientific and associated organisations. These affiliations provide links to people concerned about misrepresentation of science by the Government, Government agencies and some academic institutes dependent on Government grant funding.
Privacy policy:
Unless we obtain people’s permission to do otherwise and subject to compliance with valid court or legal orders, we will keep people’s personal information confidential. Please clickto see our detailed policy.
Acknowledgments
We acknowledge the many people worldwide from diverse backgrounds who worked tirelessly and mostly without any compensation to keep Galileo’s pioneering spirit alive as science was assaulted. Thank you for your work in protecting science, protecting the natural environment, protecting our economic security and protecting the human spirit from alarmists’ constant bombarding of fear and guilt. Most of all, thank you for protecting freedom.
We acknowledge scientists, many retired who sprang into life to protect science and Nature. As the UN and extremists cloaked in green tarnished ‘science’, your total dedication to restoring scientific integrity has rekindled many people’s faith in science and reliance on objective real-world observation. Much appreciated.
http://www.galileomovement.com.au
I think this is a fantastic campaign to the people of Australia; however I think it’s high time the record on Galileo is put straight for the readers here.
In a fact just like the lies and distortion about carbon dioxide and global warming are put out to the press and media, so are the lies and distortion about the Galileo affair and the church as having been anti science in this regards.
The first thing to point out and one issue that it’s completely left out in almost all of these debates, is who was Copernicus ? This is the guy all physics book quote and often refer to the Copernican motion system. Somehow the BIG detail is being left out here is that history records Copernicus as a devout Christian (in fact catholic priest). It is beyond dishonest to leave this detail out in any debate.
So exactly how does a devout Christian throw out all their religious views out the window and go off and study a science system of motion that goes against his devout Christian beliefs? This makes absolutely no sense at all. In fact it only makes sense if you realize that the church never had a Geo centricity, or the idea that the earth is the center of the universe as an official teaching. The church does not and as noted there are approximately 1500 years of perhaps one of the most meticulously documented institutions here. No one can find ONE official doctrine that Christians are to believe the earth is a center of the universe. This teaching does NOT exist for the universal church.
It’s also significantly important to note that pope Pope Clement VII on seeing an presentation of the Copernican system gave a valuable gift to the presenter. Again the MAIN point here is the Pope was open to differing views on the Earth being the center of the universe. Once AGAIN was this pope like Copernicus all of a sudden throwing out all his teachings and faith out the window?
So all these folks are going against the teaching of the church makes NO SENSE!
And even better is the statement by Cardinal Bellamy, who was the head of the inquiry against Galileo. He stated the following:
I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not
revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be
necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages of
Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that we have
misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is demonstrated.
So he saying he is open to different views. However, he is ALSO staying that Galileo’s science and math doesn’t add up and you don’t have proof of your position. In other words he’s rejecting him on scientific grounds! In other words he simply stating to Galileo your proof doesn’t cut the mustard, and I’m not going to accept until you do have proof. That is what good scientists do!
And as noted, stating in public that church doctrines are up for debate is instant grounds for excommunication!
Now it’s possible the readers here are actually standing here and asking the church to have accepted a ridiculous teaching such as the sun being immovable! In other words if the church accepted Galileo’s teaching, then we could all point out what a silly position to hold and the church would still be criticized for accepting bad math and bad science!
Furthermore the idea that the sun is the center of the universe is also another ridiculous statement. Once again are the people standing here saying the church should have accepted this teaching?
Even worse is Galileo’s math could not explain the change of speed of the planet’s going around in orbit. Simply put the mathematics Galileo’s put forward and offered did not and could not support his claim about the planets going around in circles. The church found those errors in that math. In fact as I pointed out children in grade school today know the difference between a circle and ellipse. In other words Galileo failed the inquiry on SCIENTIFIC grounds!.
The institution thus upheld good scientific process and CLEARLY stated they would accept such proof when such proof existed.
In that time frame the church was dealing with dissenters and reformations against the church. In fact, what was occurring was groups of people were going around to high level church officials and said look how the church is willing to accept Galileo’s teaching. Therefore the church is in heresy, and therefore you should defect and join our protestant movement or church.
In other words it was the church’s willingness to accept different positions on this matter that was a reason why they were receiving criticism from protestant sects and other breakaway groups!
As I pointed out, most educated people that timeframe did believe in Geo centricity, and did think that scripture supported this point of view. However it was not a doctrine or official teaching of the church. As I quoted the pope’s and Copernicus and others, they clearly had differing views on this matter. And I can assure any of the readers here, that any church official taking a position that goes against doctrinal teachings of the church is grounds for instant excommunication if not much worse!
The general and wide held view of Geo centricity was really something that most educated people held, and this came from Aristotle and Plato etc, and was not a church doctrine at all.
As noted the REAL pressure to the church was coming from these protestant reformists, and other groups that were criticizing the church for allowing Galileo!
I should point out that placing books on ban lists is only an act of discipline on the church’s part, and banning of book is not a position of doctrine of what’s inside the book being held true or false . They’re simply trying to contain the damage from these people that were criticizing and causing defections in the church for its willingness to accept Galileo’s teaching.
So in closing, you people here are being duped by the liberal press in that the church was anti science in this regards. In fact the church upheld GOOD scientific process and scrutiny (unless the readers here actually do think that planets go around in circles, and believe ridiculous ideas like the sun being the center of the universe).
In fact would not be just a simple matter to quote the doctrinal position of the church on this matter? After all they had a copy of Galileo’s manuscript sitting there, all they had to do was quote the church doctrine this matter, and he would be branded of heresy and excommunicated right on the spot. At the end of the day they did not have any doctrine of which to convict him, and they were actually throwing him under the bus so to speak.
So their best short and best result of the conviction:
“vehemently suspected of heresy”
Read that again! (Suspect of heresy, NOT convicted of!). So in other words he’s a suspicious guy! Now that doesn’t sound very convincing, so I better say he is REALLY suspicious. A group of law students reading that charge would laugh their faces off! So someone is suspicious of a crime ! We better make it sound better, and state that he is vehemently suspicious. At the end of the day he simply was branded a suspicious guy and was NOT convinced of heresy, but suspicious of!
This also explains why such a light sentence was given. House arrest amounts to a slap on the wrist. So friends and family can come and go as they please. You can drop by for a beer and have a party. Family members can come and go as they please for thanksgiving Turkey and dinner and fun. Pretty much do they want. Hardly a sentence of some huge criminal.
At the end of the day the position of the popular press into the readers here is simply position of one of being duped by the propaganda of the leftists and anti Christian press.
“Steve from Rockwood says:
May 16, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Congratulations. Australia is attempting to crawl out from under a rock.
Next: UK and US.”
Also NZ. We’re being hit hard here with the cost of living thanks to the Govts ETS Scam ontop of a GST increase.
it will be good for australia but they need donations as we are up against the australian GOVT and the water mellon heads
Protect people’s emotional healthby ending Government and activists’ constant destructive bombardment of fear and guilt on our kids and communities.
Oh my gods!
Right-wing nutter and god-fearing radio shock jock Alan Jones is the patron of a ‘new Aussie skeptic movement’ that aims to “protect people’s emotional health by ending Government and activists’ constant destructive bombardment of fear and guilt on our kids and communities”. ‘Galileo Movement’, no less!
Hilarious!
This is a joke, right? Why hasn’t this been tagged as satire?
I support the concept, as we are up against a religious fervour that is not soundly based in science, defended by dogmatic attitudes, rather than scientific discovery free of the toxicity of dogmatic adherence to outdated belief systems.
Ignore the attempt to divide and distract by attempting to settle on a religious or anti-religious side issue by those that see opportunities to protect their dogmatic position.
Apart from the concept that reflects the nature of the debate, the science is the debate, and it is on that very science that our opponents know their own weakness. Why else would they avoid open face to face scientific debate in Australia?
We are sick of spin, lies, abusive putdowns and avoidance of open genuine public debate on the issues of taxing carbon dioxide AND the very corruption of academic freedom by those who seek to run an ideological agenda of social change under the guise and cover of “alarming climate change”.
Bring on the public debate, you know, the one that warmista claim we could not possibly understand the science they so studiously avoid explaining !!
I heartily recommend the site; we skeptics need media coverage and there is little of that on Australia’s publicly funded ABC
@Super Turtle – “Even worse is Galileo’s math could not explain the change of speed of the planet’s going around in orbit. Simply put the mathematics Galileo’s put forward and offered”
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You are evidently misrepresenting Galileo, for his argument includes not a single equation.
Galileo was persecuted and forced to retract because:
(1) he violated his agreement with his friend the Pope (papa) by representing the Copernican theory as superior to a geocentric model that required so many redundant epicycles.
(2) Galieo presented the Pope as a simpleton, thinly-veiled in the character “Simplicio”
(3) Galileo published his equation-free argument in Italian so that it could be read and understood by the average person, rather than in Latin for scrutiny only by the elite.
You should read Dialogues before criticizing it.
I thought it all sounded very noble, particularly the non-political bit. Then I saw who the patron was and some of the advisers, sorry they’ve lost me.
So, sir, don’t lecture about integrity
Integrity: the alignment of what you think, with what you say, with what you do.
Why have integrity: It allows you to be whole within yourself and to have trust present in your relationships.
To live without integrity results in being lost and alone.
dlb says:
May 16, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I thought it all sounded very noble, particularly the non-political bit. Then I saw who the patron was and some of the advisers, sorry they’ve lost me.
Yeah It’s funny, they sure no how to manage a political division in Oz, they make both sides stink.
I’m a huge admirer of these men, sacrificing their time, money and reputations for this most excellent cause. The politicisation of science, its instrumentalising by the state is an horrendous corruption by culture warriors.
In the spirit of constructive criticism I’d like to affirm the worry ‘Super Turtle’ has about the guiding narrative of this new organisation.
There seems still some confusion about the Galileo affair even though the standard myth has been thoroughly debunked by professional historians.
1) Galileo got in trouble because he insisted the Church change the way it read scripture.
2) Bellarmine insisted in turn that the empirical evidence was not wholly in so he ought to be patient.
3) Galileo’s model turned out to be false
4) A heliocentric model of the solar system was no big news afterall Copernicus demonstrated it decades before and won plaudits for it from the Pope.
5) The Church was Galileo’s greatest patron and supporter against all kinds of enemies, but he treated his friend abysmally. He wasn’t pugnacious he was selfish and arrogant with no thought for the political and social ramifications his fame and close association with the Church could cause by his behaviour.
The new organisation ‘The Galileo Movement’ by perpetuating the secularist science v dogma myth in its historical blurb undermines its stated aims – i.e. where empirical claims are presented sufficient proof must be proffered before the machinery of our institutions are re-ordered.
It was Galileo who was making doctrinal i.e. religious claims and was proven wrong.
‘The Galileo Movement’ wants to destroy the received and unexamined wisdom that passes for ‘climate change science’ it probably ought not have ideologically motivated historical distortions i.e. received and unexamined wisdom as the movement’s guiding narrative. This distortion was politically motivated in its origins and continues so to this day.
As a keen supporter of this movement and willing labourer for it – I wonder if it could amend its historical blurb and excise the bits that don’t serve its stated aims. Simply affirming Galileo’s commitment to observation and measurement against the politicisation of science, in his case the Aristotelian physical science (not Aristotle’s metaphysics) stakeholders.
Any google search of ‘galileo myth’ or similar will help.
Best wishes to Case and John in their endeavors for Australia.
Paul R
In Australia we recognise that those that, think they are the elite in this country, will ignore our lone individual voices of protest, so we need to add our voices to the few in the media here, game enough to speak up and express what many ordinary Australians think is a huge scam to extract even more money from ordinary people.
We live with the variability and extremes of the Australian Climate, just as our fathers and grandfathers did and we are proud of what has been achieved, so weather is something we understand and have an intense interest.
We also don’t want to see this country dragged into an economic backwater because some “scientists” have sold their souls to perpetuate a false agenda.
The “trick” here is not to hide anything, (unlike post modern “science”) but to demonstrate our combined support to all Australians.
We all have the right and responsibility to vote. And ordinary Australians have the right to see and hear this issue properly debated and the science discussed. If it takes this groundswell to be heard in the media and the “halls of power” then so be it!
Its what is good for Australia and good for the the world. Not just good for elitists and their fellow travelers, so not and never has been about where one sits in relation to a “political division” “ideology” or “whatever”.
We all have to vote eventually on the issue, so best to be well informed and make each vote count.
If both or any sides of politics stinks, that is their issue to change their climate (stink!) not monkey with ours or drown us with purile propaganda!!
Seems to be a mixed reception. Like everything – give it a chance and follow what they are saying so that a better review can be done later. It sounds to me that they are going in the right direction and bringing the real debate out to the masses. I hope they are fair in their quest so that the meesage most of us believe in is heard.
First Oz – then the world?
Super Turtle (is that your real name?) says : “House arrest amounts to a slap on the wrist.”
Try telling Aung San Suu Kyi that.
Another string to the skeptics bow. Well done.
Some of the comments are truly offensive in light of the situation of women, men and children in areas where the greatest impact of carbon prices are proposed. And the lives of Australian constituents are not a political division. They are real lives.
In PNG, likely the Pacific and definitely Australia as model for a hybrid carbon economy was put forth for Indigenous people. That is the Indigenous people that can not speak or read or write english. And rely on a intermediatory. Let alone any established moral or economic principles to life as a woman, man or child.
The comments are also offensive to the many that stood up and were assaulted, raped and died for speaking out on the situation in these regional and remote communities.
This new ‘carbon’ model, based on some of the most gross practices and published results in science known, pseudo-scientific practices that have lasted and informed national policies since the late 1970s, proposed this scheme. Their previous economic models can be observed, replicated across central and northern Australia and PNG. The outcomes speak for themselves. The human beings, real PEOPLE, who did not survive to speak for themselves lived the models of these academics and others.
This latest model is a trade in human beings. No less no more.
The university department that proposed model economy is Centre for Aboriginal Economic Development, Australian National University. It will be extremely difficult to find the original proposal, dated 2004/2005.
Very best wishes to this new enterprise and I hope that it eventually goes global. God knows, we in the UK need all the help we can get.
I’ve long regarded Galileo as a powerful symbol in the fight against the AGW religion. He reached his conclusions on the basis of observation and not on the basis of religious or scientific dogma (now it seems that scientists at our local religious establishment, otherwise known as the Met Office, are openly stating that the outputs of climate models are more important than observations).
I was amused to see an AGW scientist invoke Galileo as support for his religion. That’s quite ironic, as one claimed ‘proof ‘ is the scientific consensus. It probably didn’t occur to him that the most obvious thing about Galileo is that he went against the consensus – and was of course proven to be absolutely right. In other words, this was yet another case where the consensus turned out to be completely wrong. In his time Galileo was a sceptic, just as many of us are today.
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Today’s printed Daily Telegraph has an excellent piece by Andrew Turnbull, entitled ‘The inconvenient truth is that they’re wrong’. Lord Turnbull occupied several very senior posts in previous UK governments. I think most people here would agree with his analysis of climate change science and policy. It’s also good to see because the Daily Telegraph (unlike the Sunday Telegraph) is normally uncompromisingly pro-AGW, with coverage of climate change that is normally biased and one-sided.
The Telegraph again had Chris Huhne on the front page (he is the UK’s Energy Secretary who is busily destroying our future prosperity). Some of the evidence seems damning. It is certainly possible that he will end up behind bars. The sad thing is that whoever replaces him will probably continue with these ruinous policies that are based on flawed and possibly fraudulent science.
Chris
Appeal to members of both parties? Good luck with Labourites. You can probably keep your shoes on when you count up how many supporters from that lot you get.
A relevant resource for TGP, mentioned but not linked on the currently-in-hiatus T&N-3 page, http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/8/4/985/pdf (1 MB PDF). One of numerous “money quotes”:
The above link was supposed to be labelled “Carlin vs. EPA”.
wonderful news!
aus needs as many dissenting, truthful climate related sites and sources as we can provide.
as mentioned the mainstream ignores it and the ABC is so pro agw it breaks their own codes of conduct.
Heartening news. Go Aussie, Go!
Global Climate Changes as Forecast by Goddard Institute for Space Studies
Three-Dimensional Model
Hansen et al, 1988
Here are the scenario definitions
Scenario A assumes that growth rates of trace gas emissions typical of the 1970s and 1980s will continue indefinitely; the assumed annual growth averages about 1.5% of current emissions, so the net greenhouse forcing increases exponentially. Scenario B has decreasing trace gas growth rates, such that the annual increase of the greenhouse climate forcing remains approximately constant at the present level. Scenario C drastically reduces trace gas growth between 1990 and 2000 such that the greenhouse climate forcing ceases to increase after 2000.
Here is the comparison of forecasts with observation.
http://bit.ly/iyscaK
I let you judge the forecast yourself.
dlb says:
May 16, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I thought it all sounded very noble, particularly the non-political bit. Then I saw who the patron was and some of the advisers, sorry they’ve lost me.
Maybe you missed the part where they say they don’t endorse all of the views of the advisers and patrons, nor do they expect the patrons and advisers to endorse all of their views.
To get something going you need massive exposure. Alan Jones provides that. No matter what you think of him, he has a lot of ears to talk to. They were hardly going to try and recruit Tim Flannery, were they?
Personally I find Alan Jones irritating. But that’s just me and it doesn’t rebut any of his arguments.
You can either try and call people names or you can answer the arguments put forth. One is easy, the other takes effort. Which one will you choose?
Still, the political left in Australia has a standard response to any thing they don’t like – they laugh at it and make derisory comments. Funny thing is, though, that strategy has been failing for the best part of 20 years. The only success the Labor party had was when they put up someone who did a stand-up job of imitating a conservative PM but promised to be warm and fuzzy with it. Since then, the old pattern has re-emerged with familiar results. You won’t be laughing when all traces of carbon pricing have been erased from Australian political debate forever. Neither will the people who fought against it. They’ll just be relieved to get their lives back, being tired from arguing against useful idiots, socialists and rent-seekers for what seems forever.
Tom Jones says:
Maxwell Dworkin – is that for real?
Yes, it’s real:
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2010/09/geocentrism_was_galileo_wrong.php
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/09/12/1855237/Geocentrists-Convene-To-Discuss-How-Galileo-Was-Wrong
Dlb:
I can’t be certain, but I would be willing to bet my last dollar that Alan Jones helps more people in every way , ,in a month —in personal time, charity work, assistance for ordinary people being monstered by overbearing bureaucracy—moral support etc etc —than you or many of the rest of us would do in a lifetime.
It’s de rigueur among Lefties and the latte crowd in Australia —and especially the self-styled , self-important intellectuals who think they own ‘our’ ABC—-to sneer at and smear Alan Jones—and in the process it’s their own lack of integrity that they expose.
They are the ones who proclaim their own great and abiding ‘compassion’, yet they have absolutely no compunction in trying to destroy the lives of others—and Alan Jones is a frequent target.
What most of them can’t forgive Alan Jones for, is that he treats common sense-speaking ordinary people with great respect, and holds politicians of all parties to account—but especially the Labor politicians who manage to trash Australia every time they get their hands on the levers of our country.
This time they threaten to use the convenient issue of climate change to hand our sovereignty over to the dysfunctional UN and other global busybodies—– and while almost 100% of the Australian media desperately tries to maintain a shutdown of information on the issue, lest Australians find out the truth, Alan Jones and a handful of others, including Ray Hadley, Andrew Bolt, Piers Akerman, Tim Blair , Terry McCrann are doing all they can to honour democracy by providing us with the alternative information as antidote to the propaganda—-or telling us where to find it.
The Left want a suppression of information—it’s the only way they can survive—not just on this, but on other vital issues, because they don’t really believe in democracy—-and Alan Jones et al want the information widely available, because they know that , given all the information, Australians almost always back decisions that are good for Australia.
An informed population is toxic to the Left—hence your hostility to Alan Jones .