Why windmills won’t wash

Guest post by the Viscount Monckton of Brenchley

Consider the Oldbury wind turbine, which WattsUpWithThat.com reveals was installed a couple of years ago at a primary school in the Midlands at a cost of £5000 sterling plus Vicious Additional Taxation at 17.5% (US $9694 in all).

In the first full year of the Oldbury White Elephant’s 20-year life it generated a gratifying 209 kilowatt-hours of electricity – enough to power a single 100-Watt reading-lamp for less than three months. The rest of the year you’ll have to find something else to do in bed.

Gross revenue for the year, at 11p (18 cents) a kilowatt-hour, was, um, almost £23 ($40). Assuming that there are no costs of finance, insurance or maintenance, and after subtracting 20 years’ revenue at last year’s rate, the net unamortized capital cost is £5,415.20 ($8,900).

Even this figure understates the true cost. The UK has hidden much of the cost of its climate measures behind a calculatedly complex web of levies, taxes, charges, and subsidies, and – above all – behind a furtive near-doubling of the true cost of electricity to pay vast subsidies (“yacht money”, as we landowners call it) to anyone connected with windmills. The website of the King Canute Department amusingly calls this obscurantist mish-mash “transparency”.

How much “global warming” will Jumbo the Albino forestall? While it is in operation, it will generate 209,000/365/24 or almost 24 Watt-hours per hour on average: just about enough to drive an electric toothbrush.

Mean UK electricity consumption, according to the Ministry of Transparency, is 43.2 GW. Electricity contributes one-third of UK carbon emissions, and the UK contributes 1.5% of world emissions. So the proportion p of global carbon dioxide emissions that the Worthless Windmill will forestall is 24 / 43,200,000,000 / 3 x 0.015, or 2.76 x 10–12, or, as Admiral Hill-Norton used to call it, “two-thirds of three-fifths of b*gger all”. Skip the next few paragraphs if mathematics makes your head hurt.

Today’s CO2 concentration is 390 parts per million by volume (less than 0.04%, though most people think it’s more like 20-30%). Instead of the 438 ppmv CO2 concentration that the IPCC predicts for 2030 on its A2 scenario, thanks to the Wonder Whirligig it will be 438 – p(438 – 390), or seven-eighths of a Hill-Norton below 438 ppmv.

IPeCaC, the UN’s climate panel says 8 Watts (no relation) per square meter of radiative forcing from CO2 and other bad things (p. 803 of its 2007 climate assessment) will cause 3.4 Celsius of “global warming” (p. 13, table SPM.3) from 2000-2100 (progress from 2000-2010: 0.0 Celsius).

That gives the “centennial-scale transient climate-sensitivity parameter”, which is 3.4/8 or 0.425 C/W/m2. Multiply this by 5.35, the coefficient in the CO2 forcing equation, to give the “centennial-scale transient global-warming coefficient” n = 2.274 C°. We don’t need to worry about warming beyond 2100 because, according to Solomon et al. (2009) it will take 1000-3000 years to come through, far too slow to cause unavoidable harm.

Multiply the logarithm of any proportionate change in CO2 concentration by the global-warming coefficient n and you get a central estimate of the warming that will occur (or be prevented) between now and 2100.

The Sandwell Sparrow-Slicer will only run for 20 years, not 100, so our value for n is going to be too big, overstating the warming the thing will actually forestall. But it’s Be-Nice-To-Bedwetters Week, so we’ll use the centennial-scale value for n anyway.

Let’s do it: 2.274 ln[438/(smidgen x tad <438)] is – well, put it this way, even my 12-digit-readout scientific calculator couldn’t do it, so I turned to Microsoft Excess. According to Bill Gates, the warming the Birmingham Bat-Batterer will forestall over the next 20 years will be rather less than 0.0000000000007 Celsius.

As the shopping channels say, “But wait! There’s more!!!” Well, there could hardly be less. How much would it cost, I wondered, to forestall 1 Celsius degree of warming, if all measures to make “global warming” go away were as hilariously cost-ineffective as this silly windmill?

You get the “mitigation cost-effectiveness” by dividing the total warming forestalled by the total lifetime cost of the project. And the answer? Well, it’s a very affordable £8 quadrillion ($13 quadrillion) per Celsius degree of warming forestalled. Remember, this is an underestimate, because our method tends to overstate the warming forestalled.

And that’s before we politicians ask any questions about whether IPeCaC’s estimates of climate sensitivity are wanton, flagrant exaggerations [cries of “No!” “Shame!” “Resign!” “I beg to move that the Noble Lord be no longer heard!” “What did I do with my expenses claim form?”].

Suppose it was just as cost-ineffective to make “global warming” from other causes go away as it is to make “global warming” from CO2 go away. In that event, assuming – as the World Bank does – that global annual GDP is £36.5 trillion ($60 trillion), what percentage of this century’s global output of all that we make and do and sell would be gobbled up in climate mitigation? The answer is an entirely reasonable 736%, or, to put it another way, 736 years’-worth of worldwide income.

This is an inhumanly large sum. So how much would each of the seven billion people on the planet have to cough up over the next century to forestall the 3.4 C global warming that IPeCaC hopes will happen by 2100? It will cost each of us more than £3.8 million ($6.3 milllion), and that’s probably a large underestimate. I’m going to have to sell the Lear ad go commercial. No – wait – what did I do with that glossy brochure about how many tens of millions I could make from the 30 250ft windmills I could put on the South Beat? Ah, here it is, under my expenses claim form.

“The Noble Lord,” the Canutists might say, “is deliberately taking a small, absurd and untypical example. Shame! Resign! Expenses!” etc. So here are the equivalent figures for the £60m ($100 million) annual 20-year subsidy to the world’s largest wind-farm, the Thanet Wind Array off the Kent Coast – that’s £1.2 billion ($2 billion) for just one wind-farm. KaChing! I think I’ll have another Lear. And a yacht, and a Lambo, and a bimbo.

The “global warming” that the Thanet wind-farm will forestall in its 20-year lifetime is 0.000002 Celsius, or two millionths of a degree, or 1/25,000 of the minimum global temperature change that modern methods can detect. The mitigation cost-effectiveness, per Celsius degree of warming forestalled, is £578 trillion ($954 trillion), or almost 6000 times the entire 296 years’-worth of UK peacetime and wartime national debt as it stood when Margaret Thatcher took office. That’s more than 1.7 million years’ British national debt, just to prevent 1 degree of warming.

Making IPeCaC’s predicted 3.4 C° of 21st-century warming go away, if all measures were as cost-ineffective as Thanet, would take more than half of the world’s gross domestic product this century, at a cost of more than £280,000 ($463,000) from every man, woman and child on the planet.

“The Noble Lord is still cherry-picking. Resign! Moat! Duck-island!” etc. So look at it this way. All of Scotland’s wind farms, which can in theory generate 10% of Britain’s electricity (actual output in that cold December when we needed them most: 0.0%), will forestall just 0.00002 degrees of warming in their 20-year lifetime – about the same as all of China’s windmills.

So there you have it. After the biggest and most expensive propaganda campaign in human history, leading to the biggest tax increase in human history, trying to stop “global warming” that isn’t happening anyway and won’t happen at anything like the predicted rate is the least cost-effective use of taxpayers’ money in human history, bar none – and that’s saying something.

The thing about gesture politics is that the politicians (that’s us) get to make the gestures and the proles (that’ll be you) get to get the bill. I think I’ll have another moat. Torquil, don’t you dare put that expenses claim form on the fire. Think of the carbon footprint!

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Kum Dollison
April 30, 2011 2:27 pm

Very nice, Tesla. When you’re finally through insulting me you reveal that your entire argument is based on “I Suspect.”
That’ll get it.

Bob White
April 30, 2011 2:44 pm

Taking water vapor into consideration and using the data and formulae from the 2007 IPCC report, the DOE, the EPA, several universities and independent climatologists, the global warming contributions (based on concentration and potency) of atmospheric constituents are:
95% is from water vapor
5% is from 5 green house gasses (GHG)
Only 0.28% is from man-made GHG
Therefore 99.72% of GW is natural
Only 0.117% is from man-made CO2
Only 0.066% is from man-made Methane
(Reducing the 22% of US man-made GHG by 17% by 2020 as called for by the 2009 Waxman Markey bill would reduce GW by 22% of 17% of 0.28% or by 0.010472%, or about one part in ten thousand.)
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
But NASA supported spectral calculations and many other scientific experiments show that the radiation absorption capacity of CO2 at its principal wavelengths is well above saturation levels, so an increase in CO2 will have little or no warming effect.

April 30, 2011 2:48 pm

Good stuff from Monckton, but please don’t insult good King Canute.
King Canute (Knut, 1014-1035). He was supposed to have tried to stop the tide coming in. In fact, his story is more interesting than that. Canute had started his reign as a pagan, but converted to Christianity. His court was full of pagan sycophants whom he wished to be rid of but no longer felt it right just to execute them. When they tried to flatter him by saying he was so powerful that he could command the tide, he saw his opportunity. Down to the shore they went, but the tide came in as scheduled and Canute sacked the lot of them; a very astute man!
(Extract from : ‘While the Earth Endures: Creation, Cosmology and Climate Change’)

April 30, 2011 2:55 pm

Whoops, sorry, just realised Roger Carr was way ahead of me by at least 100 comments!

Julian Flood
April 30, 2011 3:00 pm

Lord Monckton,
The correct expression, at least in the RAF, is ‘two thirds of three eights of f** all’.
Do windmills really kill bats? If so, there is a legal remedy:
quote
The introduction of the CRoW Act, meant that; considering the potential any natural or manmade structure, or landscape feature has to contain a bat roost, or form part of essential foraging areas around a roost, has become an important part of all pre-work job assessments. When thinking about a planning application the possible presence of a protected species like bats is a material consideration of the planning process and dealt with within the Planning Policy Guidance Note (PPG9)
The Habitats Regulations provided protection not only for the bat and it’s roost site (whether occupied or not), they also cover the habitat used by bats both for roosting and foraging. Where bats are concerned this could also included the flight lines they use between favoured roost sites and good foraging areas. This becomes an essential consideration when there is a proposal to reduce or remove an old hedgerow, or where clear felling of woodland is proposed. The preservation of a connective landscape is incredibly important.
unquote
Re Knut and his tide: it is a curious fact of history that King Knut sat and got his feet wet at almost the exact spot where the House of Commons passed the ludicrous Climate Change Act. He would have walked from his palace along the Roman road to the foreshore on the Thames where the new House now stands.
As an aside, my attempt to re-open the right of way along that route was turned down by Westminster City Council on the grounds that no maps exist. They are going to be vert embarrassed when the archaeological evidence shows the road. I look forward to one day striding though the Members’ dining room and standing on the exact spot where a wise man showed that the world is bigger than mankind.
JF

April 30, 2011 5:01 pm

And that doesn’t even begin to cover the problems when the wind stops. We need the energy when we need it, therefore without effective energy storage, we need to double the generation capacity.
Wind is as bad as PV solar.
And PV solar is really really bad.

April 30, 2011 5:04 pm

I’m not sure my comment was clear. We must build extra generation capacity to make up for wind or solar downtime because any ‘electric’ downtime for a community at all is a major inconvenience (read cost). Not that the anti-progress progressives care but it is what it is.

Phil's Dad
April 30, 2011 5:27 pm

I was interested in the choice of the Thanet Array in this piece as I did some research on this myself. I looked for an averagely densely populated area of roughly the same acreage as the array and came up with the Borough of Luton.
It seems the electricity consumption of this fairly typical area is about 1.5 times the total output of Thanet. In other words you need your wind array to be 1.5 times the size of the area you are powering – more for city densities.
This, as others have said, is Professor Mackay’s argument made real, that even if Britain used every scrap of land and sea to generate wind power, there would not be nearly enough. Those who think the economic arguments will change in time still need to come up with an awful lot of space.
I beg to move that the Noble Lord be restored to the House.

April 30, 2011 5:44 pm

If the effectiveness of your solution begins to approach Avogadro’s number as a percentage, your solution isn’t effective.
Just sayin’.

April 30, 2011 5:46 pm

Er, the inverse of, my bad.

Shanghai Dan
April 30, 2011 6:10 pm

Clearly Viscount Monckton is unaware of modern Governmental financing methods; such ignorance of display speaks ill of the Brits! If his lordship understood that the key is to simply print money, and borrow funds from another nation to cover such expenses, he would quickly realize that we can, in fact, easily produce those quadrillions of pounds and shillings! Nothing more than the turn of a press to create the monies demanded to counter the heinous and odious beast of Anthropogenic Global Warming.
/sarc

Kum Dollison
April 30, 2011 6:21 pm

A Network of HVDC (High Voltage Direct Current) will be the next step. You lose less Voltage with Direct Current than with Alternating Current – especially over long distances, and underground, or underwater.

Phil's Dad
April 30, 2011 6:45 pm

But, Kum Dollison, what about the space issue?

JM VanWinkle
April 30, 2011 6:48 pm

Slightly OT but seriously good news:
WB-8 was designed to prove that the Polywell fusion device using deuterium scales according to theory (radius to the seventh power). WB-8 first plasma was six months ago, November 1, 2010, and is currently operating as designed. WB-8.1 is planned to use boron and hydrogen for fuel, with the project commencing in October 2011.
From the government website:
http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientR
Quarterly Activities/Project Description
As of 1Q/2011, the WB-8 device operates as designed and it is generating positive results. EMC2 is planning to conduct comprehensive experiments on WB-8 in the next 9-12 months based on the current contract funding schedule.
Emc2 Fusion Development Corporation

April 30, 2011 6:56 pm

pk says:
April 30, 2011 at 11:52 am
“except for hauling millionairs there are no sailing ships in serious commercial use at this time. ”
Yes and that’s “offshore” wind.
Likewise, except for joyrides, there are no commercial sailplanes.

Mike Fox
April 30, 2011 7:13 pm

The reason it’s a cow flying over the windmill is that a pig would be offensive to Islam!
😉

kbray in California
April 30, 2011 7:54 pm

RE: the picture…. Why windmills won’t wash.
If the moo hits, they’ll wear it….
then it will wash.
cold water please.

tesla_x
April 30, 2011 8:10 pm

Kum Dollison: Since you just keep asking for it…you’re WRONG….again.
Just in the US alone we have over a 200 year supply that we can measure doing what we do TODAY:
http://www.netl.doe.gov/KeyIssues/secure_energy2a.html
If you consider many Coal plants are going to either natural gas (‘200 year supply’+, lower coal burn rate) or to coal gasification, which increases efficiency by anywhere from 50-80%, so a 200 year supply essentially becomes a 300 year supply, or a 2000 year supply becomes a 3000 year supply.
Now consider the Clean Air Act based movement from Coal to NG, which decreases demand for coal:
http://progress-energy.com/aboutus/news/article.asp?id=24342
And another:
http://powerservices.lakho.com/2011/03/28/dominion-looks-to-retire-738-mw-salem-harbor-plant-by-2014/
I know of six just in the Great lakes neighborhood alone that are doing this, and it is part of a much larger trend that is adding natural gas based generation, measured in gigawatts. This curbs the use of coal based generation and extends reserves further.
Then you have technology extending the reserves with 50-80% efficiency improvements with Coal gasification:
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/powersystems/gasification/index.html
Lets also throw in the Coal export angle, which is always a dead giveaway for a cheap and abundant commodity:
China says so:
http://en.zgxu.com/2011_04__Chinese-coal-prices-rising-for-US-coal-exporters-muffled-fortune.html
If we go back a bit further into the past of coal production ststistics, before it became fashionable to HACK government statistics to the ECO-NUT agenda, you get different numbers than just 200+years, such as those from USGS:
http://www.npg.org/specialreports/bartlett_section3.htm
Table IX (2/3 of the way down) indicates that USGS estimates could be as high as 2872 years, depending on how you count growth and supply rates….yet your brothers at the NPG Cult still see fit to spin it negatively to their nihilistic anti growth agenda.
So you you and your ECO-Cult can keep on lying & scheming, and we’ll just have to keep on ‘correcting’ you…as there is PLENTY of coal very a very long time.

Dan
April 30, 2011 8:10 pm

This is a real world example of a windgenerator working and saving money (a lot of money)
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/living-and-working/stations/mawson/mawson-electrical-energy
Note the fuel saving for this Antarctic Station 20,741 litres, to me that would seem worth the effort, the current market value of diesel here in Australia is ~$1.55 per litre, the usage figure is for just one month (March) if this unit were in Australia that would be a saving of $32.000 in just one month, over $300,000 per year. If this unit were in use in Australia it would completely recover it’s build cost 1.2m in ~4-5 years.
I have used local fuel prices in the above, the cost of shipping that much fuel to Antarctica greatly increases it’s cost, not to mention it has to be pumped ashore which runs the risk of spills. I’m sorry but the argument that wind power doesn’t work is just hogwash, It may not be as efficient as fuel, but it is a viable supplement that can and will pay for itself. There is also something odd in the example used in this story as at a yearly output of ~200Kw i.e. that is just over 500 watts per day systems with that sort of output don’t cost £5000, a 400w home system would be around £500 pounds probably less, in other words in good wind conditions such a system can produce 400w in 1 hour. I see similar arguments used against Solar and they also don’t wash, I actually have a 1.5Kw system that feeds back to the grid it has reduced my total power bill ~60% at that rate in around 2 more years (a total of 6) it will have totally paid for itself.

Douglas
April 30, 2011 8:28 pm

Kum Dollison says:
April 30, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Very nice, Tesla. When you’re finally through insulting me you reveal that your entire argument is based on “I Suspect.”
—————————————————————————–
Kum Dollison. Tesla’s argument was not based upon ‘I suspect’ It was reasoned well enough for most people to appreciate.. Nor was Tesla insulting you but simply pointing out the frailty of the argument you have attempted to put throughout this thread. Believe me, your argument is very weak.
Regarding coal reserves (to which Tesla referred) read this:
It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us around 119 years at current rates of production..
Coal reserves are available in almost every country worldwide, with recoverable reserves in around 70 countries. The biggest reserves are in the USA, Russia, China and India. After centuries of mineral exploration, the location, size and characteristics of most countries’ coal resources are quite well known. What tends to vary much more than the assessed level of the resource – i.e. the potentially accessible coal in the ground – is the level classified as proved recoverable reserves. Proved recoverable reserves is the tonnage of coal that has been proved by drilling etc. and is economically and technically extractable.
So Kum you are not insulted.
Douglas

kbray in California
April 30, 2011 8:57 pm

And about those windmill blades hitting living things…
The blade design needs an environmental “impact” study.
I can foresee the following mandated environmental accommodations:
1) 3 blades reduced to a single half blade for 1/3 the creature carnage.
2) The single half blade will also be perforated with “bird sized” holes, further reducing impact effects, allowing most birds to pass through the perforated blade unharmed.
3) In high traffic areas for condors, the single half blade will be constructed of soft “break-away” material, allowing the condor harmless passage through the machine.
These above suggested mandates will greatly improve the windmill’s environmental performance and acceptance. And as our future source of electricity, one would want to “get this right”. sarc
side note:
A slight drop in rated electrical performance may occur, but would be negligible during low wind events.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
April 30, 2011 8:59 pm

From JM VanWinkle on April 30, 2011 at 6:48 pm:

From the government website:

Except that’s not the entire link. When you copied the info, possibly what showed was the “abbreviated” address, which was a link to the full address.
Wikipedia had the full link at the Polywell entry, in the references:
http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/Pages/RecipientProjectSummary508.aspx?AwardIDSUR=46419&qtr=2011Q1

Jobs Created: 11.00
Description of Jobs Created: two full time plasma physicists. one full time equivalent electrical engineer.

Sounds like government paperwork. Money getting spent, progress getting made so don’t cancel the contract. And because it’s “Recovery Act” money, Obama gets to say he “saved or created” eleven jobs, which must be the two physicists, and nine people who add up to a “full time equivalent electrical engineer.”

Amount of Award: $7,855,504
Funds Invoiced/Received: $3,216,826

Almost halfway through nearly $8 million dollars, Project Status reported as “More than 50% Completed.” Yup, going great for government work. Which is great work if you can get it. ☺

RockyRoad
April 30, 2011 9:11 pm

john edmondson says:
April 30, 2011 at 1:12 am

I wonder what is going to happen when the ageing coal and nuclear power stations in this country are decommissioned in the next few years? That is the problem.
Most likely the UK will be short by 10GW at least. Not good.

They will simply be replaced with cold fusion Energy Catalyzer devices, which have none of the objectionable characteristics found at coal and nuclear power stations. The timing for this transition couldn’t be better, unless, of course, the AGW/Eugenics crowd wants to somehow link nickel consumption to some other-worldly disaster in an attempt to thwart and prevent it. I think, however, they shall have great difficulty doing so.

joe
April 30, 2011 9:19 pm

i think kum dollison must be including (for California) hydroelectric power purchased from the state of Washington? still don’t see how you’d get anywhere near 19% though and seems dishonest regardless….last i heard the most recent electric contracts by state of CA were with coal plants in Wyoming but our “greenie” legislators like to keep that on the down low…

Dave Wendt
April 30, 2011 9:58 pm

Kum Dollison says:
April 30, 2011 at 6:21 pm
A Network of HVDC (High Voltage Direct Current) will be the next step. You lose less Voltage with Direct Current than with Alternating Current – especially over long distances, and underground, or underwater.
I suggest you go back and review the history of the battle between Edison and the Tesla- Westinghouse system at the dawn of the electric age.