Why windmills won’t wash

Guest post by the Viscount Monckton of Brenchley

Consider the Oldbury wind turbine, which WattsUpWithThat.com reveals was installed a couple of years ago at a primary school in the Midlands at a cost of £5000 sterling plus Vicious Additional Taxation at 17.5% (US $9694 in all).

In the first full year of the Oldbury White Elephant’s 20-year life it generated a gratifying 209 kilowatt-hours of electricity – enough to power a single 100-Watt reading-lamp for less than three months. The rest of the year you’ll have to find something else to do in bed.

Gross revenue for the year, at 11p (18 cents) a kilowatt-hour, was, um, almost £23 ($40). Assuming that there are no costs of finance, insurance or maintenance, and after subtracting 20 years’ revenue at last year’s rate, the net unamortized capital cost is £5,415.20 ($8,900).

Even this figure understates the true cost. The UK has hidden much of the cost of its climate measures behind a calculatedly complex web of levies, taxes, charges, and subsidies, and – above all – behind a furtive near-doubling of the true cost of electricity to pay vast subsidies (“yacht money”, as we landowners call it) to anyone connected with windmills. The website of the King Canute Department amusingly calls this obscurantist mish-mash “transparency”.

How much “global warming” will Jumbo the Albino forestall? While it is in operation, it will generate 209,000/365/24 or almost 24 Watt-hours per hour on average: just about enough to drive an electric toothbrush.

Mean UK electricity consumption, according to the Ministry of Transparency, is 43.2 GW. Electricity contributes one-third of UK carbon emissions, and the UK contributes 1.5% of world emissions. So the proportion p of global carbon dioxide emissions that the Worthless Windmill will forestall is 24 / 43,200,000,000 / 3 x 0.015, or 2.76 x 10–12, or, as Admiral Hill-Norton used to call it, “two-thirds of three-fifths of b*gger all”. Skip the next few paragraphs if mathematics makes your head hurt.

Today’s CO2 concentration is 390 parts per million by volume (less than 0.04%, though most people think it’s more like 20-30%). Instead of the 438 ppmv CO2 concentration that the IPCC predicts for 2030 on its A2 scenario, thanks to the Wonder Whirligig it will be 438 – p(438 – 390), or seven-eighths of a Hill-Norton below 438 ppmv.

IPeCaC, the UN’s climate panel says 8 Watts (no relation) per square meter of radiative forcing from CO2 and other bad things (p. 803 of its 2007 climate assessment) will cause 3.4 Celsius of “global warming” (p. 13, table SPM.3) from 2000-2100 (progress from 2000-2010: 0.0 Celsius).

That gives the “centennial-scale transient climate-sensitivity parameter”, which is 3.4/8 or 0.425 C/W/m2. Multiply this by 5.35, the coefficient in the CO2 forcing equation, to give the “centennial-scale transient global-warming coefficient” n = 2.274 C°. We don’t need to worry about warming beyond 2100 because, according to Solomon et al. (2009) it will take 1000-3000 years to come through, far too slow to cause unavoidable harm.

Multiply the logarithm of any proportionate change in CO2 concentration by the global-warming coefficient n and you get a central estimate of the warming that will occur (or be prevented) between now and 2100.

The Sandwell Sparrow-Slicer will only run for 20 years, not 100, so our value for n is going to be too big, overstating the warming the thing will actually forestall. But it’s Be-Nice-To-Bedwetters Week, so we’ll use the centennial-scale value for n anyway.

Let’s do it: 2.274 ln[438/(smidgen x tad <438)] is – well, put it this way, even my 12-digit-readout scientific calculator couldn’t do it, so I turned to Microsoft Excess. According to Bill Gates, the warming the Birmingham Bat-Batterer will forestall over the next 20 years will be rather less than 0.0000000000007 Celsius.

As the shopping channels say, “But wait! There’s more!!!” Well, there could hardly be less. How much would it cost, I wondered, to forestall 1 Celsius degree of warming, if all measures to make “global warming” go away were as hilariously cost-ineffective as this silly windmill?

You get the “mitigation cost-effectiveness” by dividing the total warming forestalled by the total lifetime cost of the project. And the answer? Well, it’s a very affordable £8 quadrillion ($13 quadrillion) per Celsius degree of warming forestalled. Remember, this is an underestimate, because our method tends to overstate the warming forestalled.

And that’s before we politicians ask any questions about whether IPeCaC’s estimates of climate sensitivity are wanton, flagrant exaggerations [cries of “No!” “Shame!” “Resign!” “I beg to move that the Noble Lord be no longer heard!” “What did I do with my expenses claim form?”].

Suppose it was just as cost-ineffective to make “global warming” from other causes go away as it is to make “global warming” from CO2 go away. In that event, assuming – as the World Bank does – that global annual GDP is £36.5 trillion ($60 trillion), what percentage of this century’s global output of all that we make and do and sell would be gobbled up in climate mitigation? The answer is an entirely reasonable 736%, or, to put it another way, 736 years’-worth of worldwide income.

This is an inhumanly large sum. So how much would each of the seven billion people on the planet have to cough up over the next century to forestall the 3.4 C global warming that IPeCaC hopes will happen by 2100? It will cost each of us more than £3.8 million ($6.3 milllion), and that’s probably a large underestimate. I’m going to have to sell the Lear ad go commercial. No – wait – what did I do with that glossy brochure about how many tens of millions I could make from the 30 250ft windmills I could put on the South Beat? Ah, here it is, under my expenses claim form.

“The Noble Lord,” the Canutists might say, “is deliberately taking a small, absurd and untypical example. Shame! Resign! Expenses!” etc. So here are the equivalent figures for the £60m ($100 million) annual 20-year subsidy to the world’s largest wind-farm, the Thanet Wind Array off the Kent Coast – that’s £1.2 billion ($2 billion) for just one wind-farm. KaChing! I think I’ll have another Lear. And a yacht, and a Lambo, and a bimbo.

The “global warming” that the Thanet wind-farm will forestall in its 20-year lifetime is 0.000002 Celsius, or two millionths of a degree, or 1/25,000 of the minimum global temperature change that modern methods can detect. The mitigation cost-effectiveness, per Celsius degree of warming forestalled, is £578 trillion ($954 trillion), or almost 6000 times the entire 296 years’-worth of UK peacetime and wartime national debt as it stood when Margaret Thatcher took office. That’s more than 1.7 million years’ British national debt, just to prevent 1 degree of warming.

Making IPeCaC’s predicted 3.4 C° of 21st-century warming go away, if all measures were as cost-ineffective as Thanet, would take more than half of the world’s gross domestic product this century, at a cost of more than £280,000 ($463,000) from every man, woman and child on the planet.

“The Noble Lord is still cherry-picking. Resign! Moat! Duck-island!” etc. So look at it this way. All of Scotland’s wind farms, which can in theory generate 10% of Britain’s electricity (actual output in that cold December when we needed them most: 0.0%), will forestall just 0.00002 degrees of warming in their 20-year lifetime – about the same as all of China’s windmills.

So there you have it. After the biggest and most expensive propaganda campaign in human history, leading to the biggest tax increase in human history, trying to stop “global warming” that isn’t happening anyway and won’t happen at anything like the predicted rate is the least cost-effective use of taxpayers’ money in human history, bar none – and that’s saying something.

The thing about gesture politics is that the politicians (that’s us) get to make the gestures and the proles (that’ll be you) get to get the bill. I think I’ll have another moat. Torquil, don’t you dare put that expenses claim form on the fire. Think of the carbon footprint!

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Kum Dollison
April 30, 2011 9:33 am

Why wouldn’t purchases from other states count?
That’s the whole idea of wind, and solar, to spread your wind/solar farms over a wide area.

kbray in California
April 30, 2011 9:35 am

Political Corrections:
Then: “The Earth is flat.” “The Earth is the center of the universe.”
wrong, wrong.
Now: “The future is windmills.” “The science is settled.”
wrong, wrong.
“Stupid” from “top dogs” historically keeps repeating itself.
The best new tool we now have to confront this is the internet.

April 30, 2011 9:48 am

Kum Dollison,
You’rve lost this particular argument. But keep digging if you like.

Bhanwara
April 30, 2011 9:52 am

Quite right Smokey, we should remove the subsidies.
http://www.worldenergyoutlook.org/docs/G20_Subsidy_Joint_Report.pdf

neodsa
April 30, 2011 10:02 am

Lord Monckton brilliant as ever we all owe him a debt of thanks. May I just add this non technical non political point , windmills have been around for hundreds of years , I have an antique set of volumes The Book Of Modern Engines And Power Generators circa 1907 which looks at them in detail . If there was any possible way of using windmills to produce useful economically viable power doesnt any one think that some entrepreneur would have siezed it long ago , before global warming was even thought of.

April 30, 2011 10:04 am

Bhanwara: At least land-based coal and nuclear sites can be buried and surrounded by ack-ack facilities. Off-shore wind facilities are open to mini-subs, drifting mines, torpedos, bombardment, and commando raids. Or do you advocate Martello-tower installation of every wind-turbine, with the consequent garrison enhancement ?

Bhanwara
April 30, 2011 10:14 am

Question for a moderator.
Why doesn’t the (a href=”” title=””) shown below the comment space work. (Obviously I was using > and < not round brackets)

REPLY:
No idea, we have others who use it OK – Anthony
[Reply #2: Try just using the href command without any quotation marks. Just cut ‘n’ paste the URL. ~dbs]

Bhanwara
April 30, 2011 10:17 am

Babeshamal, yeah I noticed that worked for Saddam Hussein.

bubbagyro
April 30, 2011 10:17 am

Smokey says:
April 30, 2011 at 9:48 am
Kum is relegated to the last type of the flat-earther arguments: “If the earth isn’t flat, how do you explain the loss of ships in the Devil’s triangles? Hmmm?”
But the last justification sent shivers of horror down my spine. Is there no place to go where we can be free of these eyesores? “How many more landscapes must be ruined, Mr. Speakuh? How many moah?”

April 30, 2011 10:18 am

The Dutch at least found windmills to be cost effective to grind grain and keep afloat. Both valuable propositions!
Airfoil revolution
The design of whale fins has revolutionized fans and wind turbines by incorporating whale fin “tubercles” (“bumps”) on the leading edge of airfoils (“aerofoils” across the pond).

A typical large fan of this sort extends 24 feet in diameter and has 10 blades. “We can go down to five blades, and they produce 25 percent more airflow and use 25 percent less electricity while operating at the same speed,” Dewar said.
During the first half of 2008, the Wind Energy Institute of Canada tested 5-meter tubercle blades on a 25 kW wind turbine. It found that tubercle blades reached full power at 12.5 m/s compared with 15 m/s for conventional blades, and would produce up to 20 percent more electricity annually, depending on wind speed.”

From Whales to Fans, Alan S. Brown, Mechanical Engineering March 2011
See WhalePower.com

nc
April 30, 2011 10:28 am

Here is some information up in British Columbia
http://aeoliswind.ca/index.html
Sure looks purty,,SARC.
I can’t seem to find information on the presently installed generation. Seems that information is not available to the public but maybe its just me that can’t find it. Seems if they are doing so well the information would be front and centre.

kbray in California
April 30, 2011 10:28 am

When I fly over the San Francisco Bay Area, I get a good look at all the windmills near the Altamont Pass all at once.
http://freelargephotos.com/000300_l.jpg
When I visually compare all the buildings and homes and development against the tiny windmills, there is no way those windmills could ever physically supply all the power needed. There would have to be MILLIONS of them everywhere to provide 100% power, and of intermittent reliability at that.
In spite of inherent dangers like Japan is now having, modern nuclear is the only good answer now, especially if one must have a “zero carbon” effect for the politics.
If one could successfully remove the “carbon threat theory” from the picture, then fossil fuel is still king, and we could have “business as usual”.
The current path is leading to a fiasco.

April 30, 2011 10:31 am

@Kum;
How was energy generated 200 years ago? How will it be generated 200 years from now? Do you have a clue?
M

bubbagyro
April 30, 2011 10:36 am

David:
That’s great! Now we can get the bats that have somehow made it through the three-blade system!
Seriously, the main problem with turbines is that they are vertically situated. The bearings wear because the gravity forces always produce uneven torquing.
If we had horizontal turbines, or ones with non-movings parts (Haha /sarc), then this could be mitigated somewhat.

Lady Life Grows
April 30, 2011 10:42 am

There may be yet another, more serious cost. All that racket next to a primary school: what happened to the children’s scores on national achievement exams?
Were any children traumatized by sliced sparrows?

Ralph
April 30, 2011 11:06 am

>>Tom T says: April 30, 2011 at 9:19 am
>>After seeing how much you chaps are willing to spend on a wedding for
>>someone who may or may not inherent a ceremonial position, I was
>>having my doubts about your country’s capacity to make rational decision.
At least our ceremonial head of state does not own two 747’s and a couple of helicopters and use half the Marine Corps when they travel. Nor do they have to prove when and where they were born.
.

Richard S Courtney
April 30, 2011 11:22 am

Kum Dollinson:
It is bad form to repeat a post from another thread. However I write to conduct such bad form because
(a) your comments in this thread pretend that I did not refute them earlier
and
(b) several commentators have mentioned the issue of my previous post.
Please note that above (at April 30, 2011 at 9:12 am) the Noble Lord has pointed out that the matter is not directly pertinent to the analysis in his article above, but my previous post answers both your point and questions from several others.
My previous refutation of your spurious assertions was in the thread at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/27/blown-promises/
and it was as follows.
Richard
Richard S Courtney says:
April 27, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Kum Dollinson:
Wind turbines operate when the wind is sufficiently strong but not too strong. Hence, there are significant periods when they do not operate because the wind is not in the appropriate range of wind speeds.
To date no country has managed to operate its wind turbines for more than 30% of a year, but at April 27, 2011 at 1:24 pm you assert;
“Okay, when all else fails, do the research. It seems like Iowa generates about 52 Million Megawatt Hrs (According to EIA.)
It looks like they’re producing 10.7 Million Megawatt Hrs of Wind, which would be about 20.6%.”
OK. That suggests
(a) the turbines are providing all – or almost all – of Iowa’s electricity at times
or
(b) the turbines are operating for significantly more than 30% of the time.
Either of these performances by Iowa’s wind turbines is an amazing achievement: all countries with large numbers of wind turbines would be interested to know how it was achieved.
Importantly, the wind power was an extravagant, expensive waste whatever the proportion of Iowa’s electricity was supplied by the wind turbines.
The wind power displaced thermal power stations from the grid, but the power stations continued to operate – and, therefore, to burn their fuel and to make their emissions – while waiting for the wind turbines to stop providing electricity when the wind changed. That fuel would have provided electricity if the wind turbines were absent.
Thermal power stations take days to start from cold so cannot be shut down while waiting for the wind to change. Therefore, they have to operate at reduced output or on standby while waiting for the wind to change.
Thermal power stations usually operate at optimum efficiency. If a power station is required to provide less electricity then its efficiency reduces so it provides less electricity but consumes MORE fuel (this is like trying to drive a car at 10 mph in fifth gear: it can be done but it uses a lot of fuel). And a power station operates at optimum efficiency when on standby, so it then uses similar fuel to that needed for it to efficiently provide electricity (although it provides no electricity when on standby).
In other words, the only effects of the wind turbines are to increase the fuel consumption and the emissions of the power stations which provide the electricity when the wind turbines don’t. And those power stations would have provided the electricity if the wind turbines had not. Also, it should be noted that the increased emissions from power generation are caused by the wind turbines although those increased emissions are from the power stations.
So, the wind turbines provided no useful power but provided significant additional cost to the power generation and additional emissions from the power generation. This is true wherever wind turbines are used to provide electricity to a grid supply.
Richard

CDJacobs
April 30, 2011 11:39 am

Bubbagyro, you adress some really key issues.
Today the windies are touting the number 35%: that is, 35% of all new power generation being added in the US is wind. Of course, they mean 35% nameplate capacity; factor in capacity utilization and the number drops to under 12% (and that’s quite optimistic).
The tragedy is that we are doing it at all. The craziness mounts when you add in all the “grid stabilization” actions needed to make the power marginally reliable: huge battery and/or ultracap banks, etc. Also part of the “job creation” mythology but oddly never factored in as part of the kW-hr cost.
I have a request here that you might perhaps fulfill: what is the aditional CO2 produced because backup power (generally NG-fired) must essentially be “at idle”, awaiting near-instantaneous demand? It is a hell of a big number, I’d imagine. I don’t personally care about CO2, mind you, but it makes an interesting argument against the wind advocate.

RACookPE1978
Editor
April 30, 2011 11:42 am

David L. Hagen says:
April 30, 2011 at 10:18 am (Edit)

The Dutch at least found windmills to be cost effective to grind grain and keep afloat. Both valuable propositions!

When the competing energy sources are slaves, donkeys, oxen, and horses …. Windmills can compete effectively.
When the average lifespan of the people was 28 years, with 4 in 5 children dying before age 8, and mothers condemned to a 20 percent of dying during childbirth, and the rest “living” in hungry squalor eating rotting food over the winter months and competing with rats for the little grain that could be saved …. Windmills can compete effectively.
When sewage disposal is the open water the next town drinks … Windmills can compete.
But that is the life desired for all – except the enviro-friendly ruling class – by today’s enviro elites.

pk
April 30, 2011 11:52 am

except for hauling millionairs there are no sailing ships in serious commercial use at this time.
if wind power is so glorius than why is this so.
could it be erratic availability?
could it be just plain wimpiness?
could it be that the whole wind power thing is a fraud.
C

3x2
April 30, 2011 12:18 pm

M’lud,
Came across this via a Bishop Hill thread, the table at the top of page ten is unbelievable. If implemented, we would be paying for this for the next ten generations. Even better, as I understood the report, meeting our “CC commitments” will still require “demand reduction”. (The phrase “demand reduction” appears 25 times in 32 pages)
Demand reductions across all sectors of the economy will be essential
through a combination of increased efficiencies and behavioural change.

The Powerpoint presentation that started the thread even posits (slide 11)…
Insights from Royal Academy of Engineering study ‘Generating the Future –huge investment needed –successfully meeting the 2050 CCC commitments will require a global command economy. (though I found no reference in the report)
Then again (slide 3) …
Cambridge is special, and we have a globally distinctive role to play in terms of reacting to the future.
Talk about swimming out of your depth. Cambridge really is “special”

tesla_x
April 30, 2011 12:40 pm

Kum Dollison: you’re WRONG.
“Some of you aren’t thinking about what coal, and gas are going to cost when these windmills, and solar panels are paid for – much less 30, 40, or 50 years from now.”
And YOU don’t consider the TRUE carbon footprint of this Quixotic Turbine Folly(QTF), let alone the UNSUBSIDIZED rebuild costs of these financially motivated conTRAPtions:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1350811/In-China-true-cost-Britains-clean-green-wind-power-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html
Turbine overhaul and useful life? Probably 10-20years, which is less than solar, which is under 30 years for panels and under 10 for Inverters:
http://guidedtour.windpower.org/en/tour/econ/oandm.htm
Newsflash: like *site specific* sources of OIL, Coal and Gas, they don’t last forever, so to represent wind and solar as a ‘perpetual’ alternative is just DUMB.
And NO you don’t know anything about the expense of using coal in 200 years…but anyone who can READ a history book or use Google knows Coal has been ‘affordable’ and used from everything from making hot bath water to metalworking as far back as 300BC (that is well over 2000 years for the mathematically and factually impaired)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/History_of_coal_mining
And I further suspect there are thousands of years more worth of it that have yet to be mined, because the earth is a big place and VERY OLD. Rare Earth metals for magnets and Tellurium for thin film, on the other hand are much harder to find and refine than common COAL…
So to summarize, I would recommend you drink less Koolaid from the Climate and Green Energy Bar before posting or just have the grace to be quiet.

Dr T G Watkins
April 30, 2011 12:46 pm

Very enjoyable post as usual from C.M.
The problem as we all know is how to inform the masses and politicians of the madness which is the UK’s energy policies.
David Socrates in an earlier comment (2.37 am) has the right idea and I would certainly help if I knew how.

Joe Public
April 30, 2011 12:55 pm

Semplice Energy who sold the “Birmingham Bat-Batterer” predicted it had the potential to produce around 1,400 kWh pa. It actually produced only 209 kWh.
It’s a good job they used so many successive caveats.

1DandyTroll
April 30, 2011 1:07 pm

The high flying smart looking farting cow looking, crossed, down on that puny Don Quixote paranormal tin foil wrapped crazed climate communist hippie heartless gutless meek sleazy “human” says all.