The reality of wind turbines in California – video

As many know, I was on a road trip for two weeks. On my return into California, I traveled a road I had done many many times – California Highway 58 through Tehachapi pass, one of the windiest areas of California, and loaded with wind turbines like you see in this photo from www.wind-works.org which seems to be taken during 2003. All the turbines seem to be spinning.

But, the reality I encounter when I drive through there is much different than what you see in the photo above. I often drive this road, but always wished I had a video camera with me to show how many turbines are inoperable since this doesn’t show up well in still photos. Unless you have a slow shutter speed to show “blade blur”, they all look inoperable.

But this day was different. I did have a video camera with me. Plus, the day I drove through, Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 was near perfect for wind turbines. There was a front coming in, and strong winds ahead of it.

Here’s the wind data from the ASOS at the Tehachapi airport during the time I drove through:

The wind data displayed above are measured at 1000′ lower elevation than the wind turbines on the top of the ridge, where the wind velocity will be higher.

And here is what I saw of the wind turbines along the ridge top, there were quite a few inoperable on this windy day. This video was taken right about 11AM PST:

There were many more inoperable turbines, but could not be filmed from a safe vantage point along the highway. This video was take from the semi-truck staging area near the agricultural inspection station.

My best guess from the video and others I saw that I could not film is that about one in four turbines were not operating.

The problem is maintenance. The location, while perfect for wind, is treacherous for work and support equipment. Even on a flat terrain, like in Texas (shown below) where I photographed these turbines, doing maintenance on gearboxes and generators high up on a post isn’t easy.

Imagine the complications on a mountain ridge for maintenance.

On the wind-works.org website “tour” section, they lament the condition of the Zond (Enron) wind power sites:

Wind Plant Maintenance Items to Note

Throughout the Tehachapi-Mojave area look for turbines without nose cones, turbines without nacelles (blown off and not replaced), oil leaking from blade-pitch seals, oil leaking from gearboxes, road cuts in steep terrain, erosion gullies, non-operating turbines, and “bone piles” of junk parts. One Zond bone pile of abandoned fiberglass blades is visible on the east side of Tehachapi-Willow Springs Rd. near Oak Creek Pass. (Kern County doesn’t permit on-ground disposal of fiberglass.) While touring wind farm sites look for blowing trash and litter (plastic bags, soft-drink cups, bottles, electrical connectors, scrap bits of metal, and so on). These all reflect management’s attention to maintenance and general housekeeping. At the better sites, you won’t see any of this.

Even on the valley floor, the smaller four turbines just west of the Tehachapi airport that greet visitors who drive in from Bakersfield had a problem, and these are on flat ground and accessible:

In Palm Springs, CA, another windy place, they have similar problems:

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Florida’s broken windmills:  A California problem

Broken

Blades

The permit allowing windmills to go in didn’t say they could sit there broken. Palm Springs is getting tough. If windmills are going to exist in the city they must be operational. A city that has welcomed windmills since it was first approached about them in the early 1980’s is finding that many of those windmills are no longer working and it wants them fixed. The question is who’s responsible for fixing them? Florida Power and Light (FPL), the owner of the inoperable windmills, was allowed to install and operate local windmill farms under a conditional use permit (CUP) stipulating if the windmill does not run for six months, it’s declared a public nuisance and without a hearing, must be abated.

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Here’s a video showing the inside operations of a wind power facility in Washington State

And, the lack of maintenance problem is not just in California. In 2001, I visited Kamoa wind farm near Southpoint in the big island of Hawaii. The wind is so strong there, trees grow horizontal like this one:

As much as I was surprised by the horizontal trees, I was equally surprised to see dead wind turbines there. It was my first experience with a wind farm.

From this American Thinker article “Wind energy’s ghosts”:

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Kamaoa Wind Farm, Hawaii. (image)

Built in 1985, at the end of the boom, Kamaoa soon suffered from lack of maintenance. In 1994, the site lease was purchased by Redwood City, CA-based Apollo Energy.

Cannibalizing parts from the original 37 turbines, Apollo personnel kept the declining facility going with outdated equipment. But even in a place where wind-shaped trees grow sideways, maintenance issues were overwhelming. By 2004 Kamaoa accounts began to show up on a Hawaii State Department of Finance list of unclaimed properties. In 2006, transmission was finally cut off by Hawaii Electric Company.

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Image from Waymarking.com

Again, like in California, Hawaii’s turbine problem is lack of maintenance.

But isn’t that the way it always has been with windmills?

It seems the more things change, the more they stay the same:

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UPDATE: It appears Idaho is getting set for putting a wind power moratorium in place:

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State Lawmakers Look At Wind Energy Moratorium

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Mar 18, 2011 6:16 p.m.

BONNEVILLE COUNTY, Idaho — Construction of wind turbines may be coming to a halt in Idaho.

State lawmakers are considering a bill that would prevent the construction of any new wind farm for the next two years.

Over the last year, dozens of new wind turbines have gone up on east bench just outside Idaho Falls, but many of the neighbors and their legislators want to put a temporary end to new construction.

When the legislature adopted the 2007 energy plan, it did not envision so many energy companies wanting to build wind farms in Idaho.

Bill sponsor Erik Simpson said he and both his Republican and Democratic colleagues agree they need to take a look at the long-term consequences.

“Local governments need some direction as to what should be included in some of their ordinances, recognizing some of the impacts that are out there on wind, and we need to find out what those impacts might be,” said State Affairs Committee member Tom Loertcher.

To conduct the study, the bill proposes a two-year moratorium on wind farm construction.

“It may be a problem mostly in eastern Idaho now, but it’s likely to be a problem in (other legislators’) communities as well unless we take this two year pause and study this a little more in depth,” Simpson said.

Wind power is not the cheapest way to produce energy, and lawmakers want to make sure their constituents don’t have to pay top rate.

“Utility rate payers are paying more for this unreliable intermittent energy source,” Simpson said.

Many are also concerned about the environment.

“A lot of these projects are going up in pristine wildlife areas,” Simpson said.

But not everyone agrees. Some local people like Bonneville County farmer Tory Talbot want to continue to see more turbines.

“The moratorium will basically limit businesses wanting to come into Idaho. Southeastern Idaho and southern Idaho has a huge wind energy potential,” Talbot said.

The State Affairs Committee plans to continue the debate on Monday when they hear from utility companies and energy companies.

They will then vote on whether they should move the bill to the House floor.

If the bill passes, any project already approved would be allowed to move forward.

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UPDATE2: The maintenance problem also extends to Germany:

From: jcwinnie.biz

HAWT Destruction from Gearbox Failure

Gearboxes have been failing in wind turbines since the early 1990s. Barely a turbine make has escaped. The problem reached epidemic proportions with a massive series failure of gearboxes in NEG Micon machines. At the time, the NEG Micon brand was the most sold wind turbine in the world. The disaster brought the company to its knees ; It was taken over by Vestas, the world’s largest wind turbine manufacturer, which still is challenged by gearbox and rotor failures.

As previously noted, a large number of gearboxes have had to be replaced “in large numbers.” Der Spiegel reports that the German Insurance Association is none too happy…

“In addition to generators and gearboxes, rotor blades also often display defects,” a report on the technical shortcomings of wind turbines claims. The insurance companies are complaining of problems ranging from those caused by improper storage to dangerous cracks and fractures… The frail turbines coming off the assembly lines at some manufacturers threaten to damage an industry that for years has been hailed as a wild success.

At Spiegel Online, Simone Kaiser and Michael relay a concern about installed wind turbines:

After the industry’s recent boom years, wind power providers and experts are now concerned. The facilities may not be as reliable and durable as producers claim. Indeed, with thousands of mishaps, breakdowns and accidents having been reported in recent years, the difficulties seem to be mounting. Gearboxes hiding inside the casings perched on top of the towering masts have short shelf lives, often crapping out before even five years is up. In some cases, fractures form along the rotors, or even in the foundation, after only limited operation. Short circuits or overheated propellers have been known to cause fires. All this despite manufacturers’ promises that the turbines would last at least 20 years.

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DirkH
March 20, 2011 6:11 am

Claude Harvey says:
March 20, 2011 at 4:40 am
“You are correct. All utilities must “chase the load” in a synchronous electric power system. ”
In the EUSSR, the load chases you! 😉

Dr. Coyote
March 20, 2011 6:12 am

Ask any civil engineer: politicians love to cut ribbons in front of new bridges, but are loathe to allocate money for long-term maintenance. Same principle applies here.

Another Qlder
March 20, 2011 6:15 am
John K. Sutherland
March 20, 2011 6:18 am

One should collect all of the dead bodies of birds from around these sites and send them to Greenpeace, or just leave them inside the doors of their offices, in their front yards, or drop them off on their protest vessels. Almost as good as fish left on the engine block of a car for a few days!

red432
March 20, 2011 6:33 am

You miss the significance of the structures as religious symbols. They should make them of more durable materials, like concrete, so they will endure like the pyramids of
Egypt or the great crucifixes of South America.

Clive
March 20, 2011 6:36 am

There are a few folks from Alberta here where turbines are a growing cancerous blight. If you want to check the output of our system you can do so at the AESO site. The output is updated every one or two minutes. http://ets.aeso.ca/
On the upper left side, select “Current” and then select “Current Supply & Demand” and “Go”. As I write, wind projects are producing 10 MW out of a total wind capacity of 777 MW. The highest I have seen is ~600MW…but that is rare.
AESO claims the wind projects work at 30 to 35 percent of capacity. Bah!

March 20, 2011 6:44 am

P.Solar said:>>There again probably no one would be stupid enough to build an off-shore wind farm in fault line susceptible to have a mag 9 event. They save those sites for clusters of nuclear reactors.<<
I would just like to observe that whilst I agree that building a bunch of nukes right by a subduction zone is somewhat crazy the "men in white coats that make guesses" considered that the particular area was not likely to have an earthquake of that magnitude due to the known length of the fault.
On the assumption that the owners of the plants took advice form these scientists then I believe that like with so many other trouble we have the blame lies at the feet of the advice given. (Along probably with greed over subsidies – if there were any)

Pamela Gray
March 20, 2011 6:58 am

Publicly funded jobs are never worth an investment of my taxes, short term or long term. Green jobs are a prime example of government sponsored boondoggles. So why do we continue, liberals and conservatives alike, vote folks in who promise us a better future? Bush started the bailout crap. Obama extended it into subsidies and stimulus funds.
I will vote for whoever has the guts to tell me, “If you want a better future, it is up to you.” I would love that ticket. Can you imagine a campaign around these planks, “I promise to go to Washington to NOT make a better future. I promise to NOT change one damn thing just so you can pocket stimulus dollars. I promise to put a mirror in your face whenever you come complaining about a lack of a job. And just to show you I mean business, I promise to remove all federal government “programs”, guaranteed loans, restrictions and subsidies related to you developing an industry that creates jobs. And I promise you I will not fund one damned government job, including my own, unless it is with your referendum approval.”
In this era of budget woes and a tanked economy, I think it appropriate to declare a national emergency in reverse. Not one with additional restrictions (as is the usual case of national emergencies) but one where the normal restrictions of creating jobs are lifted.

fenbeagle
March 20, 2011 6:59 am

red432
…..’They should endure, like the pyramids’……….It’s ok red, the foundations probably will. Particularly when they are built on 30 meter deep piles, 8 to a turbine, as proposed here on the Lincolnshire Fens.

March 20, 2011 7:18 am

Does it matter which direction these spin? I thought I saw one spinning “backwards”.

March 20, 2011 7:18 am

Yet in Ontario we push ahead with thousands of wind turbines. This is what we will look like in 10-15 years. Total waste of money, energy and materials for no gain.

Hans Kelp
March 20, 2011 7:24 am

After seeing such horrible things going on with the windmills, how can anyone recommend bying and running such miserable crap?! You just hit it big again Anthony Watts. Thank you, I´ll send this to my friends and foes and maybe there will be some hope og changing some thoughts about windparks…

March 20, 2011 7:36 am

I have seen the Wildhorse wind farm several times a year when I visit my parents in Ellensburg.I drive right by them on the way up the long hill from Vantage Wa.
There is also another wind farm just east of Ellensburg as well.I was there just 3 months ago.It is very new looking and big!
There is also another wind farm in the hills,to the south of Ellensburg.
This region is just down slope from the cascade range,therefore gets a reliable regular wind rose,most of the year.
But the maintenance is going to be a lot of work,due to sheer number they have standing.
There is also a wind farm just south of town of Kennewick.They move all the time since the wind rose there is very reliable.
I have no choice but see these landscape blights everyday.
All these mill farms combined still does not produce the amount of power production of the single N2 reactor at Hanford Wa. It produces enough power to power a city the size of Seattle.In a small area of land.

Doug S
March 20, 2011 7:40 am

Bryan A says:
March 20, 2011 at 1:58 am
“Many of the Non-spinning turbines aren’t necessarily non-operable. Like so many generation sites throughout California, some of the capacity is held in reserve.”

Interesting point Brian but this seems like a problem in coordination between the different generation plants on the grid. For example, I would think that if wind could contribute more power to the grid then it should be utilized and Nat gas fired, hydro and other generating facilities should be scaled back. Since wind is currently a “use it or loose it” capacity I would think that wind should be operated at 100% output at all times. I bet the efficiency figures that wind advocates use to “sell” wind power don’t reflect the real world realities of grid management and I bet the down time for maintenance on turbines is grossly understated.

John Brookes
March 20, 2011 7:44 am

Hmmm. All those dead birds. What a shame that there aren’t any pictures of piles of dead birds in this post….
We had piles of dead birds near Esperance in Western Australia recently – thousands of them. Turns out that they died because of lead dust, coming from trainloads of lead headed for Esperance to be shipped overseas.
But its not as sexy to be killed by lead dust as it is to be killed by a wind turbine, is it?

Craig Loehle
March 20, 2011 7:46 am

I am betting there is a subsidy for buying/installing them, but no such subsidy for fixing them. Priceless.

Chris D.
March 20, 2011 7:48 am

Wow. There is a whole numbered series of vids on YouTube titled “Life With Industrial Wind Turbines in Wisconsin” that is a fascinating watch. The noise is an obvious issue, but I had never considered that the light flicker would be.
This is the first one:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lEwOyyaURs&w=640&h=390%5D

Olen
March 20, 2011 8:03 am

Given enough time a monkey at a typewriter will write the great novel and environmentalists will come up with a good idea.

March 20, 2011 8:09 am

Eh. Normally I’m in complete agreement with WUWT. But that video showed a surprising amount of windmills spinning, imo. I would have expected ~20% to be offline at any given time. It was much less than that.
REPLY: Look carefully at the last couple of seconds in the video. – Anthony

John Norris
March 20, 2011 8:26 am

Fun footage of a wind turbine failure:
http://www.youtube.com/user/dborup#p/u/8/CqEccgR0q-o

juanslayton
March 20, 2011 8:44 am

jorgekafkazar: Unfortunately, the wind doesn’t always blow, and, when it does, the utilities don’t always need the electricity!
Wind generation is supplemental power, intended to displace conventional sources. The only circumstances under which the utilities don’t need the electricity is when all conventional power has already been displaced. Has this ever happened?

John F. Hultquist
March 20, 2011 8:55 am

Phillip Bratby says:
March 20, 2011 at 12:23 am
~~~~~ John F. Hultquist says:
~~~~~ March 19, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Here is the project (about 12 miles east of me) and from the link provided are the characteristics of the foundations.
“The Wild Horse Wind and Solar Facility, located in Central Washington, is Puget Sound Energy’s second wind-powered electric generation facility. It is also the utility’s largest wind farm with 149 turbines.
Wholly owned by PSE, Wild Horse has the capacity to generate up to 273 megawatts (MW) of electricity. Construction began in October 2005, and was completed in December 2006, with a 22-turbine, 44 MW expansion completed in 2009.”
http://www.pse.com/energyEnvironment/energysupply/pages/EnergySupply_ElectricityWind.aspx?tab=3&chapter=5
Each tower foundation reaches a minimum depth of 25 ft and a maximum of 32 ft depending on bedrock depth and takes an average of 100 to 260 cubic yards of concrete.
Each foundation requires 120 anchor bolts that span from the surface of the ground to the bottom of the foundation. A single 28 ft anchor bolt weighs approximately 150 lbs.

kellys_eye
March 20, 2011 9:12 am

I suspect a worldwide survey of all wind farms would produce some interesting statistics – especially regarding inefficiency – but it beggars belief that anyone repsonsible for the creation of such farms would knowingly proceed with historical and technical facts at hand.
The results of such a survey should be made compulsory reading material for anyone (especially politicians) who have any responsibility to the public.
Zero subsidy is the only way forward – any workable system should be self-financing else shown to be the folly that it really is.

DirkH
March 20, 2011 9:13 am

juanslayton says:
March 20, 2011 at 8:44 am
“Wind generation is supplemental power, intended to displace conventional sources. The only circumstances under which the utilities don’t need the electricity is when all conventional power has already been displaced. Has this ever happened?”
Sort of. In Germany, during times of low demand and high wind power production, the prize at the energy exchange goes negative, and owners of pumped storage are in that situation paid for taking the energy. This does happen. Conventional power plants will in that situation try to feed in as little as they can, as they will get a negative prize for their energy. Wind power producers are guaranteed to get the feed in tariff no matter what the current bulk prize for electricity at the exchange is so they don’t have to care. They are Alinsky Machines (in that they create and exploit a crisis).

DirkH
March 20, 2011 9:19 am

Furthermore, under the German system, the more the wind power producers can increase the power crisis, the more they profit relative to the conventional power sources – the more often they manage to push prizes into negative territory, the worse the economics of conventional power sources must get; and thus, wind turbines function as a parasite of the system. At a certain point, the parasitic load will destroy the system; we will see that in a nation-wide blackout.
The grid managers try to prevent this by e-mailing and faxing the wind power producers when such a crisis arrives; and for now, enough of them voluntarily throttle their production to prevent a grid failure. So the parasites are sane enough not to kill their host for now.