What seems more fake to you, the argument that carbon emissions are melting the glaciers, or when the Iron Sheik surprises Hulk Hogan with a camel clutch?
I couldn’t tell you, I’m not into professional wrestling. I watch it every once in a while. I’m more about collegiate wrestling and mixed martial arts and ultimate fighting. That’s as real as it gets. As far as the global warming goes, to me that’s just a big forecast. Who’s going to be right? There are guys saying C02 is driving the whole thing and making the world warmer. Well, for the last 30 years, since we started the satellite era, the globe has been stacked for warmth. Now it’s changing around, so if the global temperature falls over the next 20, 30 years, we’ll know it’s not C02.
My problem with the debate is, it always seems like the people saying climate change is a myth are the same ones who own Hummers.
O.K., hold on. Those kinds of generalizations drive me crazy. You know what kind of car I drive? A Prius. I always have an economical car. Why? Forty miles per gallon sounds good to me. I also have an S.U.V., but that’s because I have kids. Somebody hits the darn thing from the side, with an S.U.V. you have a better chance of living. But it’s not about common sense, it’s about demonizing the other side. Suppose I drove a daisy-mobile, that was fueled entirely on daisies. Somebody would yell at me, “You’re killing all the daisies!”
Not me. I would totally buy your daisy-mobile.
I will tell you this. If I’m wrong about climate change, I will be the biggest cheerleader for the other side. What I resent is the demonization and the shutting down of the debate. When did we get to the point where one side of the debate is shut down completely? When did this happen? I don’t understand it. It’s why I didn’t read any of the Climategate e-mails. You know why? Because it would bias me against these guys. Everybody’s up in arms about the darn e-mails. All I’m concerned about is their work, and whether their work is right or wrong. All of that other stuff gets in the way of the issue, which is a very simple issue.
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I’m surprised Joe hasn’t read the Climategate emails. They are clear data as far as I can see
The fact that I don’t know where joe is now is driving me bananas.
I’d like a daisy-mobile too, please. 🙂
Joe is right, the proof is in the pudding. Only problem is, the warmers don’t want to give us a chance to see who is right. They come up with excuses why there is more snow or things are not working out like they predicted.
Just look at the political scene. When one party lost the election two years ago, the majority party says “be quiet, we won and you did not”.
When the majority party becomes the minority and see legislation they don’t like, they run for the hills and don’t play by the rules, they morf them to whatever is expedient.
So I don’t know am I reading Joe Bastardi, or Anthony Watts ?
Anyway, I dig the WWF; at least there I know I’m being lied to, and enjoying it. Also the E in my name stands for EFFICIENCY. I have spent my whole career trying to improve the efficiency of how we do things. I enjoyed the luxury of growing up on the outskirts (and not so far out) of WW-II, so I learned to think that maybe the meal I was eating could be the last food I would see for who knows how long. So when I eat an apple there ain’t no such thing as a core; apples come either without , or with a stem; otherwise they are all the same, and if you buy them by the pound it doesn’t matter if that is 3 to the pound or ten to the pound; it is still all apple.
So I have just about cleaned my house out of incandescent light bulbs as well as CFLs. My one candelabra dimmer became an on-off switch last Sunday, so the fixture is now all non dimmable LEDs, and one final small CFL; the fixture is too enclosed for the available LED bulbs, on the main center lamp; the peripheral candle LEDs are just fine.
No I’m not a green nut; I’m not into organic produce; it’s way overpriced and way overhyped. Who was the last person you know of who died from chemically poisoned food (not bacterially). Farmers can’t afford to spread noxious chemicals either on their food, or on their workers; it costs them money so they don’t do it.
When I see graphs showing that worldwide, food production linearly matches energy input to the food system, I realize how insane it is to waste precious food producing ground and soil; not to mention equally precious water; to make fake chemical fuels.
It also makes no sense to me, to take low class energy sources, like chemicals or heat, and use them to obtain high class energy like electricity (with well known Carnot efficiency limits) only to then waste that golden electricity; to go back at least one step to either mechanical energy, or worse yet to revert to heat; the lowest form of energy life.
But I also don’t believe in the “Precautionary Principle”, which basically says you don’t even know enough about the problem to know if there even is a problem. Religious folks follow the Precautionary gospel. You might as well believe in a supreme being, because if you don’t you might catch hell in the afterlife; but if you are wrong, and there is no afterlife either; what harm is it going to do you when you are pushing up daisies. So you act like a a-hole all week then go and confess on Sunday, so you can go back to being a jerk next week. How about being nice to others; simply because who wants to be a jerk all the time.
But mostly I believe in freedom; along with the golden rule. If you like to drive a hummer, or a six liter pickemup truck, with a shotgun in the window; it’s not my place to tell you that’s not cool. If it helps you to be a really nice guy beneath all that macho bluster; then do it man !
I’m an AGW sceptic and I drive a Peugot 206 estate that does 55mpg. The point about the emails and the Hocky Stick graph is that there is a great deal of evidence there that the people at the forefront of the push to convince us all that the sky is falling are not being honest. Why would scientists who had a cast iron case be anything but totally honest and straight?
Skoda Yeti SE 1.8 TSI 4×4 Fuel Consumption
Urban Fuel28 mpg
Extra Urban40.9 mpg
Combined35.3 mpg
You wouldn’t get me in a prius
Skoda Yeti E 2.0 TDI CR Fuel Consumption
Urban Fuel42.8 mpg
Extra Urban60.1 mpg
Combined52.3 mpg
http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/skoda/skoda-yeti-e-2.0-tdi-cr-fuel-consumption.asp
But if the e-mail prove that there data has been faked it is wrong
I’m sorry. I read this expecting a serious interview or debate about long range forecasts and global warming issues, but this interviewer is just being silly. so my over-simplified generalization is that when the GW alarmists aren’t trying to shut down the discussion they are acting silly to distract people from serious science and real information.
PaulH says (February 25, 2011 at 11:01 am): “I’d like a daisy-mobile too, please. :-)”
Be careful what you wish for. If the ethanol enthusiasts get their way, that’s pretty much what we’ll all be driving. 🙂
I had no idea Joe was a body builder. That explains the over-sized jacket.
I wish VF has asked Joe about why he left Accuweather and what his plans are. (Perhaps the interview occurred earlier.)
Joe is one of the guys that can be relied upon to give reasonably unbiased forecasts, so his presence will be missed.
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY AT THE WAL-MART ARENA!
Jim Cantore VERSUS Joe Bastardi in a no-rules steel cage match!
$25 gets you the entire seat…
…BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!
I’m hoping Joe Bastardi finds another online outlet so we can all get our fix.
Interestingly the loudest mouths for AGW are the ones driving Hummers, Ferraris, Escalades, Gulfstreams, or wasting tons of energy making Hollywood movies, staging gigantic rock concerts, and living in 50,000 sq ft. $10 million houses. The Al Gores, Bonos, Larry Davids.
I’ll give Ed Begley Jr. credit, although he is a total nutter, he is at least a sincere nutter.
For Geoff:
“The proof of the pudding is in the eating.”
I guess the people naming that mag never read Bunyan and “Pilgrim’s Progress”. Vanity Fair was one of the less desirable locations on the route of the pilgrim.
@Kenneth Russell. Er… the name of the magazine tells you all you need to know.
George E. Smith says:
February 25, 2011 at 11:06 am
Once again: You DON’T put the shotgun in the rear window — some a-hole will shatter the glass to steal it! Besides, it’s easier to retrieve when you step out, just by placing it on the floorboard behind the seat…
Is Joe making advertisements for Viagra?
Bastardi is getting weak. A couple more cocktail parties with Vanity fair types and he goes AGW…
I tell you it is all in cocktail parties.
“Suppose I drove a daisy-mobile, that was fueled entirely on daisies.”
It is called an ox-cart. And it also produces a by-product that can be used in your garden. Though you do need to figure out how to feed it daisies during the winter.
All I know, this guy’s predictions together with D Archibalds have been spot on, Ice extent, temps etc….
“”””” Dave Dodd says:
February 25, 2011 at 12:07 pm
George E. Smith says:
February 25, 2011 at 11:06 am
Once again: You DON’T put the shotgun in the rear window — some a-hole will shatter the glass to steal it! Besides, it’s easier to retrieve when you step out, just by placing it on the floorboard behind the seat… “””””
Now why would you go and do a fool thing like leave the over and under in the truck, while you are out getting the groceries; you might need it in the interim; are you sure you’re a real Redneck, and not just one of those Hollywood girlie men ?
Here in Aus we are in depression. Our mates across the ditch are doing it tough in Christchurch. As if that ain’t bad enough our deceiptful PM has announced a “carbon” tax which she ruled out before the recent election. Most Australians are easy going, we don’t show our emotions much but we don’t like it when someone lies to us. Now the PM has done just that over a subject that is full of lies. Lies so grand that we aren’t allowed to discuss them except here and a few blogs. A poll prior to the PM’s announcement found from a survey of 16000 plus that only 34% agreed that the world was warming and that it was because of human emissions. That’s a lot less than the 58% before Copenhagen. 38% said they were unsure because of conflicting science and 26% said CC was natural.
If we could ever get an open debate that 38% would join the 26% and the 34% would shrink.
As Joe says, a continuing global cooling over the next few decades will be the stake in the heart of AGW. We just have to survive the madness a bit longer.
How’s about a barred owl-mobile? That’d kill… uhm… two birds… nevermind.
🙂