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@Ross Brisbane
Additionally, it seems to have escaped your attention that the “carbon locked up in permafrost” was once, a part of the biosphere. We survived the warm periods when the fires burned in what is now Arctic Tundra, but you think if it warms again WE’LL ALL BE KILLED.
“The sediment cores indicate that it’s happened before.”
Exactly. So what’s the problem?
Slacko,
This link should work, no need for the public_html bit
http://endtimeclimate.org/climate/images/CO2_temp_force.jpg
Otherwise, most interesting!
And same for the second link
http://endtimeclimate.org/climate/images/CO2_heating_effect.jpg
-Why not include a Hockey-Stick holder, you know, the type the Black Adder had in one of his films?
Ross Brisbane says:
February 18, 2011 at 3:52 pm
BOMBSHELL.
Yes, Ross, but it’s really only an acorn.
I see you have replied above to one or two criticisms, but only with further assertions. For instance:
“Is there any evidence (NB: models are NOT evidence) that any tipping points exist?
Yes – This crazy notion that you can discount ALL models is purely an opinion expressed by you and holds no veracity with me. Models are calibrated to past climate sensitivity as well. The data is not plucked from nothing.
Have they been observed in the past?
Yes”
Yes, where? and when?
Models are very handy in cases of linear responses in a fully-understood system, but climate is very far from being either linear or fully-understood. When computer modellers fight like tigers to keep their data and programs secret you should suspect something is not kosher, as Climategate showed. The code appears to be stuffed full of fiddle factors and “parameterisations” (i.e. guesses), so their forecasting skill is not unadjacent to zero. Using them to extrapolate into the distant future is pointless.
The concept of “tipping points” relies on positive feedback in which the output amplifies itself. It is inherently unstable and is therefore rare in nature (though not in Nature), as anything that was going to run away did so aeons ago. To try to claim we are approaching a tipping point now, when temperatures are well below maxima reached since the last ice age is just plain daft. So I ask again, Have any been observed in the past? If so, quote where and when.
I understand from reading your post that English may not be your first language, but phrases like “Runaway warming cannot sighted to any measure in our present as these only exist in likely projections based by present trends.” do not make any sense. I’d be grateful if you could try to rephrase that.
Little wonder that warmers insist “the science is settled”.
Little to wonder about indeed!
(Aren’t they on backwards? Where’s the.. you know.. porthole?)
Sure glad you didn’t mention Stripbark. That could have been, erm, ugly.
Or a Climate Codpiece…
To Ross Brisbane
THE REAL BOMBSHELL.
http://www.aips.net.au/908066.html
“The common issues raised by the Tall Poppies were the need for
>>increased funding<>increased job security<< within academia and increased support for interdisciplinary scientific research.
If I could draw, it would have a drawing like this:
[img]http://api.ning.com/files/001eiwpSf4NRINaGy4VzNp1GP7eQI6ZNDl2RYzokjSAtKNiVkJ3ekkY1jr1yJcSc/montypythonspanishinquisition.jpg?width=504&height=375[/img]
CAPTION:
Nobody Expects The Carbon Brief!!!
Our three elements are SPAM, Misinformation, and a complete disregard for reality.
Climate Realists submit studies and Denialists submit cartoons — kind of sums it up don’t it?
Ref – drewski says:
February 20, 2011 at 2:32 am
Pride goeth before the fall!! “Climate Realists”?? Don’t you mean “Climate Realtors”??
It’s all about “Location! Location! Location!” with you guys, isn’t it?
RE Carbon Brief’s preferred mode of communication —
twit (n): One who Twitters.
drewski said on February 20, 2011 at 2:32 am
Sure does!
“Climate Denialist” is a fanciful imaginary creation meant to inspire ridicule, amusement, laughter. As countless fellow humans have done before, such a mantle is voluntarily worn for the benefit of others, as witnessed by history’s legions of Jesters, Fools, Clowns and similar. Thus submitting cartoons is very appropriate.
Meanwhile this site is chock full of Climate Realists who carefully, repeatedly, and tirelessly point out how nothing exceptional has been happening, the climate continues onward as it has for millenia, with its little fits and ripples, as we await the end of this interglacial. And they submit studies, which is appropriate as well.
You know, we should have a name for those who deny the small variations in climate that occur over periods longer than the time it takes for a young idealistic eco-activist to mature and realize there’s not much worth changing, that can point to small variances of a trace atmospheric gas as sufficient to cause waves of turbulence that will disrupt the climate and wreak havoc on the biosphere yet believe the climate is some monotonic entity that previously has existed for centuries on end with virtually no variations. Too bad “Climate Change Denier” has been co-opted. How about “Climate Variation Denier?”