Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Here on WUWT, Ron Cram has provided an interesting overview of a number of people’s ideas about desirable changes to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC). He proposes that the IPCC provide us with a majority and a minority view of climate science, rather than just a single Assessment Report.
I’m here to propose something very different. Some people think the IPCC should be disbanded. I’m not one of them.
Figure 1. The old time methods are still the best.
I think disbanding the IPCC is a bad idea. Instead, I think that we should take the IPCC to the crossroads at midnight and pound an aspen stake through its heart, stuff its head with garlic, and scatter the remains to be disinfected by sunlight so it can never, ever rise again.
Let me give you a list of my reasons why this is the preferable outcome, in no particular order:
• The IPCC has provided very little of value in the way of deliverables. The reports have been clearly political, heavily slanted, and shot through with third-rate science and worse, NGO puff pieces disguised as science.
• No other branch of science wants, needs, or has anything like the IPCC … which argues against it being a useful construct. Nor would most branches of science tolerate that kind of nonsense, a bunch of government bureaucrats summarizing the science.
• Instead of providing us with any kind of certainty or agreement, the IPCC has been the source of endless disagreements, arguments, and food fights. It is a force for dissension and division, not for scientific advancement and harmony. It has made the split worse, not better.
• Dr. Pachauri has shown repeatedly that he views his tenure as an Imperial Presidency, immune to comment or dissent. Indeed, his view permeates the entire organization.
• The “Summary for Policymakers” is done with lots of input from politicians. Letting politicians assist in the writing of the scientific summary for themselves and other politicians … bad idea.
• A number of underhanded, unethical, and generally dirty things have been done under the IPCC umbrella. As a result, there is a huge segment of the population who will automatically adopt the opposite position to any IPCC recommendations … and often with good reason.
• People don’t trust the IPCC. We have little confidence in the players, the science, the system, or the so-called safeguards. We’ve been lied to, systematically lied to, by the IPCC. How anyone can think the IPCC is still relevant to public policy after that is beyond me. Abraham Lincoln knew better. In a speech in 1854, he said:
If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain their respect and esteem.
And regarding the confidence of the public, nothing has changed in the last century and a half since Lincoln spoke … which is another reason why it is useless to try to keep the IPCC alive. Confidence in the IPCC is dead and it will not come back, it’s not pining for the fjords, it’s terminal, put it out of its misery.
• Previous dirty fighting has soured a number of excellent scientists on participating in the IPCC process.
• The participants are chosen by politicians of the various countries … hardly a scientific method for doing anything.
• The great Ravetzian experiment has been a failure. Jerome Ravetz is one of the founders of and hucksters for “Post-Normal Science”. He recommends including all stakeholders like politicians and planners and social scientists into the scientific process, just like the IPCC did. And he thinks that in times like the present, we need “Post-Normal Science”. (In the best Orwellian doublespeak fashion, this is not a science at all, despite the name.) Post-Normal Science holds that we need to substitute “quality” for truth. The IPCC fits right into Ravetz’s vision of “quality” and participation, and this is exactly what the IPCC claims to do — assess the quality, from the viewpoint of all the stakeholders, of the various parts of climate science.
I’m not saying Jerome Ravetz planned this in any way, he didn’t as far as I can tell. But quite unintentionally, for whatever reasons and circumstances, the IPCC has been a grand experiment in Post-Normal Science.
That experiment has failed. And not just failed, it has crashed and burned with spectacular pyrotechnics and outrageous sound effects. In addition to unending disputes, it has brought us the amusingly meretricious self-aggrandizement of third-rate scientists like Michael Mann.
The attempt to introduce some kind of “quality” assessment into climate science has not led to a greater agreement on where we stand and what to do. Instead, the IPCC and its post-normal science process has led to infighting, and to chapter authors promoting and hyping the “quality” and the “robustness” of their own work, and to questions and protests from reviewers being routinely ignored or run over, and to people gaming the system, and to everything but what the IPCC was supposed to lead to – some kind of agreement on the main points.
And that is why we need to drive a stake through its heart. It was based on false premises. One was the premise that we need something like the IPCC at all. No other arena of scientific endeavor has such a thing … oh, except for the UN bureaucrats latest power grab, a new “IPCC for the biosphere”. (OK, for those who don’t know how that will turn out, spoiler alert! The outcome will be another train wreck … I can see that many of you are surprised.)
Another very important false premise was the charmingly naive idea that Lead Authors would treat their own work the same as they treated the work of other scientists … BWAHAHAHA. Only a lapsed Marxist like Ravetz or one of his kin would be foolish enough to think that would end well. I strongly suspect that Ravetz must actually believe in the goodness of man.
Look, folks, the US Constitution works because none of the founding fathers trusted each other one inch. They didn’t believe in the goodness of man, they’d seen too many kings and tyrants for that nonsense to fly. That’s why the US has three equal branches of Government, so no one branch and no one man would get too powerful. They didn’t trust people a bit.
Why didn’t they trust anyone? Because they were realists who knew that given a chance, someone would grab the power and use it for their own interests and against the interests of the people.
Like, for example, what Michael Mann did when he was appointed Lead Author for an IPCC Chapter. Because the people who set up the IPCC believed in things like fairies, AGW, unicorns, and the basic goodness of humanity, Mann had no constraints on his scientific malfeasance. He was free to promote his Hockeystick garbage as though it were real science.
So that’s why I say kill the IPCC, deader than dead, and scatter the remains. It is built from the bottom up on false ideas, fantasies of human goodness and of the benefits of political involvement that will ensure failure even if the motives are good.
But if for our sins we have to have something like the IPCC, it needs to be set up so that no one faction can take control of the outcome. We need an IPCC Charter that is specifically designed, like the US Constitution, to prevent people from doing those things that we know they will otherwise gladly do. So if we have to have an IPCC, we need a new Charter for a new organization, a charter that starts from the premise that humans will definitely lie, cheat, and corrupt the science if given the slightest chance.
As a result, if we don’t kill the IPCC, the Fifth Assessment Report will be guaranteed to bring us at least three things among its cornucopian lack of benefits:
Liars, cheats, and corrupters of science.
My conclusion? Considering the widespread damage done by the first four attacks, I’m not sure that climate science is strong enough to endure the impending attack from the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report. Kill the unclean beast now, while we still have a chance of saving the science.
w.

Latitude says:
February 14, 2011 at 7:38 am
I believe they are smart, and know exactly where they are lying
But did you like the cartoon?
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rni/lowres/rnin308l.jpg
Made me laugh anyway.
This is the best analysis of and proposal for the IPCC I’ve ever seen. I’d just modify it one tiny bit.
Nuke the IPCC from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Well done Mr. Eschenbach!! Well done indeed!! The IPCC is totally corrupt and beyond repair. It needs to be completely abandoned.
Willis,
You are being way too soft on the IPCC!
The proper way to deal with it is to stop paying any money at all and then [trimmed] all the participants. Scorched earth is the best policy.
Tallbloke,
Excellent cartoon!
Dr. Pachauri and the IPCC are perhaps the greatest force on earth promoting climate skepticism. Rather than waste energy tearing down your enemies, hold them up on high for all to see their flaws.
Imagine what it would do to climate science if for example, Lord Moncton was to relentlessly praise Dr. Pachauri and the IPCC beyond measure. Telling the world how fantastic a job they are doing, and how they are getting everything right. That warming causes cooling, and drought causes floods, just like everyone knows.
That the reason the climate models have made mistakes is because we haven’t stop producing CO2. That the solution is to tax energy production, shut down industry and everyone stop eating meat and become vegetarians, move back to the country and live off the land, just the way the Dr. Pachauri and the IPCC would have us live.
GregO says:
February 14, 2011 at 7:51 am
Well, the EPA basically side-stepped its obligation to do due diligence in examining the science by citing the IPCC as an authority. That crutch needs to be kicked out, broken up, and burned.
I just discovered that one can vote with the stars at the beginning of the post replies. I voted excellent.
The greatness of that corrupt inner circle webbing has its tentacles sucking deep into the global economy.
There is an akiles heel. Now the story of David and Goliath come to mind.
Looking forward to the IPCC being a distant bad memory.
One of the best posts on WUWT yet! Thanks, Willis!
You said: “the IPCC has been a grand experiment in Post-Normal Science”
This is evident by the fact that they NAMED it the “Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change” from the outset. Climate change was assumed to be occurring, so all of their science is skewed towards validating that position.
If it were honestly named “Intergovernmental Panel to Investigate if Climate Change Is Real, And, If It Is, What The Hell We Can Do About It,” we wouldn’t be in this fix. WUWT and a few other blogs seem to be functioning in this role, holding honest debates about the science & possible outcomes…true peer-review on the web.
I agree….stake through the heart, burn the corpse and sow the soil beneath it with salt so that nothing more like it can ever grow again.
steven mosher says:
February 14, 2011 at 2:27 am
Willis the IPCC process is NOT and example of PNS. Stakeholders, like you or representing you would have to be part of the process for it to be PNS.
You don’t understand PNS. And its not because it hasnt been explained to you.
Still I think the IPCC should be put to rest, precisely because it doesnt bring all stakeholders into the process as PNS would dictate.
When Facts are uncertain, when values are in conflict, when stakes are high and when
some think decisions must be made, THEN stakeholders (like people whose taxes would go up) MUST be part of the decision process. That’s the whole point.
…except the definition (according to wikipedia) says “…[stakeholders] who are prepared to enter into dialogue on it.”
Who decides who is prepared? This is Willis’ point, that PNS is a joke from the git-go, from its entire definition.
Now, for a second, let’s assume the line I quoted wasn’t part of the definition, and your understanding is the correct one. How exactly can every taxpayer fulfill their responsibility to [MUST] be part of the process? Elections? No, because those have defined timelines (counter-thema to PNS). And even if every taxpayer “did something” to add to the PNS process, who decides how each taxpayer’s part is incorporated? From your definition, PNS sounds like “science by democracy (er, consensus),” which I know that you know is totally wrong.
It still concerns me that you’re of the belief “if only IPCC incorporated PNS correctly, it would be OK.” For my money, Post Normal Science is an oxymoron at best. I’d call it Philosophy or Ethics. It is not Science.
Dear Mr. Eschenbach,
FYI
This is for you. You may already know these facts but here is a good presentation of them.
Please view the first three minutes of this video of David Horowitz explaining that the Greens are the old Reds.
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBiutQznDCA ]
Ban Ki Moon is already aggregating votes for his next regime. He is a key player in this game and is a true believer. If he retains his chair the IPCC will continue unabated. If Obama was even half the brain of past presidents he would have killed the UN by now. I could be wrong, but I remember Reagan at one time threatening the UN with castrattion. That needs to happen now but not as a threat, as a promise.
Gary Krause says:
February 14, 2011 at 9:10 am
For future reference. Achilles.
Willis,
I always enjoy your posts. You have a great writing style. While I understand your anger at the IPCC and believe it is justified, it is not within our power to drive a stake through the heart of the IPCC.
I agree with your reading of history and the US Constitution. We have checks and balances on power precisely because people are not to be trusted. The best way to put a check on the power of the IPCC is to complete a quality and competitive assessment report.
I do not trust the IPCC to produce a fair and unbiased AR5 and that is the reason for my proposal. A great deal of skeptical research has been published since AR4 and more will be published because of Climategate. By the time AR5 rolls around, the state of climate science will be much different. I don’t believe the IPCC is to be feared, it is to be defeated in the open marketplace of ideas and evidence.
Roy Spencer made a comment on my post indicating John Christy had made a similar proposal in a meeting in Hawaii. I take that as a signal Christy may be interested. On Judith Curry’s blog, she responded to my question by saying she had read my proposal on WUWT and thought it was a good idea. I am hoping other scientists will join the effort. This is not an effort I will lead. I am just trying to get it started.
Willis, I hope you will agree to contribute to an assessment report alternative to AR5. I think you can make a valuable contribution.
Latitude says:
February 14, 2011 at 7:38 am
I believe they are smart, and know exactly where they are lying
But did you like the cartoon?
I’m with Lats here and yeh, the cartoon is great. Incidently, I’m also totally convinced that the likes of Trenberth, Mann, Schmidt et al are well aware of what the future climate looks like and that’s why their responses are getting more and more shrill. They need to get some reglés in place before it’s too late and we start seeing some really cold summers as well as winters.
Bruckner8 says:
February 14, 2011 at 9:14 am
“It still concerns me that you’re of the belief “if only IPCC incorporated PNS correctly, it would be OK.” For my money, Post Normal Science is an oxymoron at best. I’d call it Philosophy or Ethics. It is not Science.”
Brazen Marxism with a dash of sociology. It certainly does not qualify as Ethics. It qualifies as philosophy only in the sense that everything qualifies as philsophy.
George Tetley says (#1) : “Areal good one Wiillis, keep them coming, thanks to these idiots a wind turbine has just been built 300 meters from my house, what can you do about the noise? And the value ?”
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[snip . . without a sarc/ we can’t be part of this can we?]
Jessie says:
February 14, 2011 at 5:54 am
Theo Goodwin says: February 14, 2011 at 4:32 am
Theo I would appreciate if you would expand on
Verstehen (understanding) and Erklaren (explaining).
In the tradition that I am following, begun by Carl G. Hempel and continuing through Isaac Levi, understanding and explaining are the same thing. The simplest way to describe explaining and understanding is to use an example. I like Thomas Kuhn’s narrative about the transitions from Ptolemy to Copernicus to Kepler to Galileo to Newton that is found in his book The Copernican Revolution. Kepler’s solar system, as described by his Three Laws, is the perfect example of a set of hypotheses that can explain and predict the behavior of the planets as observed from Earth. With Galileo, the observations and predictions are broadened and enhanced. Galileo can predict the phases of Venus using Kepler’s equations. To understand the phases of Venus is to see that they are implied by Kepler’s hypotheses and the model of the solar system that they describe. To explain Galileo’s predictions is the same thing, to show by appeal to Kepler’s hypotheses that a given phase is an instance of Kepler’s solar system.
The German word ‘verstehen’ is ambiguous. Another meaning of ‘verstehen’ is to understand in the sense of empathizing with another. I think that is what you have in mind with regard to Dilthey. That kind of understanding does not have a role in the hard sciences.
The comments are too many to avoid possible duplication. I especially like Willis’s Founders example, and observe that, to the IPCC and other nations, a nation of sovereign persons is a foreign idea, one that works against the rule of an elite.
stephen richards says:
February 14, 2011 at 9:58 am
“before it’s too late and we start seeing some really cold summers as well as winters.”
What the 400 years of the Central England Temperature record teaches is that the summers here don’t change as much as the winters do. Probably due to the cloud cover that comes with low solar solar activity. It’s often cloudy in summer in the UK.
The winters are a different story. When ocean heat content drops and the gulf stream slows, the south westerly winds are not as warm. The jet stream loops south from the arctic and Northern Britain finds itself in freezing air for weeks at a time. This is what happened this winter with the blocking high over Greenland. With a couple of low solar cycles on the horizon, it’s looking a bit grim oop north.
No, no, no…
Don’t disband. Repurpose!
Just think what a wonderful theatrical company the IPCC could be. They already have the writers, the actors, the producers, the directors, the marketing talent, the distribution network, and sources of funding for fictional narratives.
There would of course need to be a new category added to the Oscars for best scientific hoax.
I agree with Willis! Kill Post Orwellian “Science!”
Don’t sugar coat it, Willis. Tell us what you really think! 🙂 /sarc
Willis: I have a bunch of wooden stakes left over from a project, and a great big mallet to bang them in. When do you want to start?