We have the ongoing Wegman and the Mashey/DeepClimate “Copygate dustup” at Fairfax based George Mason University, now we have even more going on in Virginia. It seems we have dueling witchhunts.
Exhibit A: The usual angry rhetoric over some MediaMatters OpEd:
Exhibit B: Now we have a new investigation in the making:
Story here
I suppose witch-hunts are in the eye of the beholder.
when the government funds skeptics them Waxman can investigate … until then not so much …
I’m pretty certain that Dr. Michaels has disclosed his funding and his work … can Mann say the same ?
… and when it is found that the AGW sceptics are not funded by the “evil” petro-chemical industries, what are these accusatory buffoons going to think of next?
This is bigger
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350206/BBC-propaganda-machine-climate-change-says-Peter-Sissons.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
looks like we have a whistleblower at the BBC which proves we have been 100% spot on all along concerning BBC bias hahaha
In the not too distant future many of the self-proclaimed “climate scientists” and their paymasters will be sitting around, shivering, dribbling and having their bottoms wiped, wishing, if they have any brains left, that they had spent their lives and money on honest scientific endeavour, such as finding cures for all the appalling ailments that await them.
Skeptics got Industrial funding?
I did not know that.
What industry is funding skeptics?
Must be one that is not emitting any CO2.
Which is that again?
The only “industry” that I can think of that does not at least exhale CO2 might be the Funeral folks, and then it is only the customers.
(grin)
Just learned that the guy in charge of the NOAA CO2 record is a 9/11 truther, look who signed this letter:
http://spryeye.blogspot.com/2008/11/doctor-bob-mcfarland-md-passes-at-78.html
“What is it with Virginia?”
Virginia is next door to D.C.
Cross-fire investigations… some innocent people are going to get hurt… let me guess… the taxpayers!
If the same investigation will also show how much money “Big Oil” has directed into the campaign coffers of Waxman and his cronies, I’ll go for it. Note that he chairs the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
Fascinating. From the Media Matters piece we learn how many people are content to comment knowledgably on Climategate without ever actually having read any of the emails or documents — similar, probably, to the number of people who are content to trust the IPCC without ever actually having read any of its “assessments” — and from The Hill we learn that the only congressman who brags about his membership in the Democratic Socialists of America, the only congressman who actually looks like a pig, instead of only acting like one, actually apparently really is stupid enough to believe his own rhetoric.
Fascinating.
Hmm – I’m a skeptic so can I join the skeptic industry? I’ll take a 100k advance from whoever is paying. Please! 🙂
Quality, and if you live in th eUK you’ll know the name.
stephan says:
January 24, 2011 at 3:03 pm
This is bigger
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350206/BBC-propaganda-machine-climate-change-says-Peter-Sissons.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Waxman just wants assurances that the money is green.
Desperate to disprove the science behind climate change? 1) My understanding of the theory of advancing an hypothesis is that trying to disprove it is a critical part of the process. 2) I’m not aware of any reputable skeptic who does not accept and embrace the ever changing climate. Personally I’d be quite alarmed if the climate failed to change for any length of time. It’s never done that before. As for why the climate changes, there’s ample reason to discuss that, and nobody yet has solved the problem.
Perhaps there should be a global shunning of those who argue that there is nothing to gain by these discussions. Oh – wait. That’s what they’re already doing! /sarc
HoratioHypotenuse …wow! Does Pieter Tans really associate with the group including Evan Ravitz?
I personally had a run in with Evan several years ago when he called and asked to speak with my 11 year old daughter. She was with friends at a birthday party outing on Pearl Street mall in Boulder, where Evan was a busker, and somehow they met.
Ah, so now congress is spending its’ time investigating alleged guilt by…. association?
I’m so glad we’re running multi-trillion-dollar deficits to get this kind of quality work from our elected liars.
This video gives a glimpse into the political nature of Rep. Waxman. It’s particularly interesting starting at 2:34 of the video:
Jeff says:
January 24, 2011 at 2:52 pm
when the government funds skeptics them Waxman can investigate … until then not so much …
The more politicians get involved out in the open with global warming the more the average person will catch on to the true colors of global warming.
Waxman is the former chair of the House Global Warming Cabal (and several committees too). A man with a small mind and a big mouth, whose foot can’t seem to stay out of the latter.
Thanks to all those Americans who voted for the other party, we now get him back in opposition, where he has little power (whew!), but still have the same small mind and big mouth.
OK, the title is cute. But Waxman is not from Virginia and he is the offending party. How about the title “What is it with Waxman?” Or better, “What is it with Waxman’s Compulsion for Intimidation?” Given the Democrats’ propensity for self-destructive acts, all their opponents need do is publicize what the Democrats are doing.
Huh, odd, I find myself siding with Waxman in that video. Why wouldn’t a man from the EPA disclose what he speaks to the president about? If you ask me, it’s executive privilege run amok. Now that video was taken during the Bush Administration, so likely Waxman was trying to make the Bush administration uncomfortable in some way about how the EPA was being run. That cannot excuse the refusal to disclose what was discussed with the president with the elected representative body (regardless of how impure their motives may be).
You don’t want to live in a world where executive-appointed bureaucrats do not answer to congress, trust me on this.
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What is it with Virginia?
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It has a massive tick attached to it on its NE border.
The solution to shutting down misguided climate scientists on the government payroll is to tie their pensions to the accuracy of their predictions. I mean give them 25-30% but anything beyond that start docking their pensions. For example, if by the time they start collecting their pensions they had predicted temperatures to be 1 degree warmer but in fact they had only increased 0.2 degrees, dock ’em 80% – 30% = 50% of their pensions! If temperatures actually go down then they should owe the government money (since obviously the pay their earned while working wasn’t deserved!). If they can’t afford to pay then it should be scientific experiments for the lot of them!
JohnWho said, “The only “industry” that I can think of that does not at least exhale CO2 might be the Funeral folks, and then it is only the customers.”
No, no, my friend. Do you realize how much CO2 is produced by a cremation? I suspect that countries that have substantial numbers of cremations, like India, are contributing hundreds of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere every year – but I bet you won’t see Pachauri proposing doing away with cremations!
As far as Waxman, he is a person to ignore – jut a legend in his own little mind.
As a “well” funded skeptic I would be glad to testify to the energy company generous funding. I will need to take up donations for buss fare. pg
Mr. Waxman (oh, dare I wish it to be true…there is a double meaning here!), please, oh PLEASE investigate this skeptic. And PLEASE help me find that funding. My unemployment runs out soon.
Bully for you, “bankers” and D.C. political “cock ups”, who really are the most ignorant types. This once proud worker in the “nuclear industry” shall soon be selling pencils upon the street. (iPads?) Anyway, it is IRONIC that I might find my way back into the good graces of the “Nuclear Industry” if I were to begin singing the AWG song.
(See the Nuclear Energy Institute website.)
Alas, I could not allow myself in good faith to continue existance on this Earth if I did that. Better a LOW ESTATE than to become an intellectual prostitute for the sake of a more sumptuous life style.
The annoying thing is that
1- Issa is not acting strong on getting into the needed AGW investigations.
2- a boorish twit like Waxman is trying to set the agenda Issa should be setting.
Which raises the question if Issa, after so much tough talk, is going to be the strong chair this committee needs?
After all, Issa has apparently already backed down from looking into warming.
Ask yourself what is in Langley Virginia?
What percentage of folks in Virginia are either empolyed by the Feds, retired from the Feds, or trying to escape the thumb of the Feds?
So you get some fairly draconian behavior on some things (like traffic laws) side by side with loose laws on others. The conflict between “old Virginia” and “DC Virginia”…
hunter – I think Issa is leaving this one to the science and commerce folks.
Carol Browner just made like a banana and split before Upton had a chance to haul her up to the hill.
I will be exceptionally frustrated if in three months Lisa Jackson hasn’t been nailed to a chair and grilled to a char over every punctuation mark in the CO2 endangerment finding. I don’t see how she and her minions have a prayer of defending it. Frankly, I figured Jackson would be gone by now, but if she’s going to hang around, then pulp her.
Here is Henry Waxman in his full glory of complete idiocy.
A truly bad BAD bureaucrat for sure….and completely dumb, to boot:
Yeah right, Henry. Like I am going to listen to one iota of what you have to say!
Chris
Norfolk, Virginia, USA
Jeremy says:
January 24, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Huh, odd, I find myself siding with Waxman in that video. Why wouldn’t a man from the EPA disclose what he speaks to the president about?
He said couldn’t disclose for reasons on confidentiality. Waxman did get the answer required. He should know details can’t be spoken in public on C-SPAN. He went beyond what is allowed by demanding details. The other Rep. was telling him he was overstepping. But Waxman wanted to push anyway, for whatever reason. Bush was president at the time. So it could be Waxman was inferring that Bush and the EPA man had something to hide. Waxman is of Waxman-Markey. He was pushing for carbon tax and trade, or whatever it’s called now, and if he could create suspicion about Bush and pollution regulation he may have felt it would help pass a bill with his name on it.
So we see politics at its worst. At least he didn’t try to beat him within an inch of his life with a cane like a Rep did to another Rep in front of the other politicians over slavery before the Civil War began.
May I roll my eyes? Thank you. (eyeroll)
Can we just compare funding en masse?
Mr. Waxman……let there be investigation into funding of all sides. Including yours.
yes, the nostrilman needs to be investigated as well…
i think the dems suffer from projection…like when they(esp. pelosi) were all astounded by the number of Americans protesting against the building of the mosque at ground zero – the dems claimed they were “astroturf” and demanded to know who was funding them, lol…talk about about delusional….
I, too, wish to confess to being funded for sceptical activities – I get a magnificent free bus and train pass from our local authority here in London, UK to attend all those clandestine sceptical organisation meetings in the Albert Hall and other places in this great city… waddya mean, everyone here over over 65 gets one? Damm! And I thought I was special. Oh well…
Seriously, I watched the video clips of the little mustachioed US politician. He has managed to combine a strange combination of arrogance, stupidity and ignorance, but I suspect he is not unique among his peers…my Dad warned me when I was a young fella that anyone who wanted me to vote for them would be worthy of my deepest suspicion.
Thank you,Thank you.Peter Sissions BBC new reporter for letting us know the truth
of how the BBC thinks on the sceptical argument of AGW. A true journalist.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350206/BBC-propaganda-machine-climate-change-says-Peter-Sissons.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Waxman might as well rename himself Congressman Witchhunt. The guy is the #1 political hatchetman in Washington. His is the piglike face of the rich, Hollywood dimwits who bemoan Co2’s poisonous properties from the backseat of their idiling Hummer Limo.
Wow! I just had a look at Media Matters and the write-up on the legal brouhaha in Virginia – MM makes the various print versions of the lamestream media in the UK appear to be very models of rationality and civility. Are these people aggressively defending their faith in AGW or is ‘attack mode’ their default position?
Obviously, my impressions of people from the USA from meeting them and working with them over the years- friendly, gregarious, open – is in error. WUWT?
MediadoesnotMatter.org is making the same critical mistake I see so many of the AGW make – asking skeptics to “disprove” anything. The level of science ignorance is just astounding. One has but to follow the scientific method to know that skeptics need prove nothing. AGW has yet to prove anything.
They are a left wing shill outfit that refuses to see the lumber in their own eye while demanding the mote in their oppositions eye be investigated.
Media Matters is funded by George Soros and the Tides Foundation, who have also spent over $1 million trying to get Glen Beck off the air.
I’ve never seen Beck before, but I ran across this. He seems pretty normal to me.
That Waxman video is really irritating.