NCDC's Dr. Thomas Peterson: "It's a knife fight"

You have to realize how serious these folks are!! Most are “true believers,” who have dire images of the earth in the future….and, in some bizarre “Star Wars” sense, they seem to view one another as true champions of the planet!
The worst example I’ve ever found is Hansen’s bullcrap about the “Venus Syndrome,” see his Powerpoint slides here:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2008/AGUBjerknes_20081217.pdf
He says, on Page 22 of 28:
“The Venus syndrome is the greatest threat to the planet, to humanity’s continued existence.”
…these folks have all the trademarks of religious fanatics, and seem to justify anything to “protect Gaia”! Remember the “No Pressure” campaign.
If they didn’t have so much influence, I wouldn’t worry so much. However, they advocate forced re-education of meteorologists, make veiled or open threats of violence against heretics etc. Read their material, visit their blogs & see what I mean.
John Holdren’s lecture to the NAE group in Chicago is another lovely work of art, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/jph-chicago-04212010.pdf

Let’s face it – this is going to be the cause of World War III. The marxists feel so close to world domination now that they will do anything to push through the last few obstacles. This will cause a massive divide in the world’s populations. Those that cherish freedom on one side and the fascists on the other. That may be a good thing because then we can be justified in wiping them all out. It would be the easiest way – and hippies don’t know how to fight, so should be a cakewalk.

“We’re in a knife fight”
Hilarious, now they’ve started to fight amongst each other with pen knives that clearly says SCUD what with they keep dropping them on their own feet.

“1. Don’t forget who you work for, the U.S. Taxpayer.”
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It used to be the MSM’s job, to put the fear of god into those who have overstepped their bounds.
Apparently, now it’s our job.

Corrected Rosenau’s name from Jason to Josh:
Dave Springer says:
January 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Interesting to note is panel member Josh Rosenau.
This cat is the propoganda minister at the National Center for Science Education (NCSE) a.k.a. National Center for Selling Evolution.
The primary modus operandi for this NGO is preventing public school teachers from speaking critically of left-wing bandwagon science/dogma in the classroom. They’ve also been involved in getting professors in public institutions black-balled for failing to preach the consensus dogma.
This is a new phase in the propoganda war. Watch for disciplinary actions against science teachers in K-12 to begin for any of them that have to audacity to question CAGW tenets in front of their students.

You very lucky people in the US have the ability to call on some Congressmen to “grow a pair” and demand all that the Government has paid for. Everything. Every last number, computer program, adjustment algorithm etc.
No homogenised, pasteurised, liquidised, sterilised, spindled, folded or mutilated opinions accepted.
Just what has been produced on the tax-payer’s dime (as you ex-Colonialists so aptly term it).
Someone in a Governmental position of authority must be able to demand every last shred of work for which the people of the United States have paid for, surely? NASA, GISS etc. are all paid for by the US tax payer. Can’t the tax payer actually see what they have paid for?
If not, why not?

Here it is:

I hope that everyone gets the point on the “knife fight” reference.
Max

Our scientists are now politicians?
When did this happen?

If someone claims that exposing their own words to public scrutiny (in context that that) constitutes “slander” against them, that should tell you a lot about what kind of people they are.
Also, the people with billions in government funding, a largely compliant and supportive press corps and educational establishment, and an arguable plurarily or majority of powerful political allies in the US and internationally, describe themselves as the disadvantaged party in the debate. Which would be amusing if it weren’t such a tiresome cliche. That claim has been made since the beginning, but it’s never been more ridiculous.

Jeff Alberts says:
January 16, 2011 at 6:27 pm
“Saying it twice doesn’t make evolution any less irrelevant to the discussion.”
I quite agree the science is irrelevant and just to be clear I believe the earth is billions of years old and all living things descend from one or perhaps several common ancestors in unbroken cell lineages. I’m far from convinced this chain of events was without external cause or purpose. The probabilities for all we observe being due to serendipity simply beggars belief.
That said there are many parallels between the politics of selling random evolution and selling anthropogenic global warming. Both have greed, ideology, suppression of data, ridicule of skeptics, outright lies, political machinations, lies of omission, subversion of peer review, and a basic blatant failure in philosophy of science to follow the evidence wherever it leads.
My religion is scientism. I worship logic, clear unbiased thinking, and following the evidence wherever it leads. When I see corruption in science it effects me like a devout Catholic finding out his preist has been molesting the choirboys. In this regard there is little difference between evolutionary dogma and AGW dogma. Both are corrupted by ideologies that have no place in the halls of science, engineering, and technology.

CRS, Dr.P.H. says:
January 16, 2011 at 2:30 pm
“You have to realize how serious these folks are!! Most are “true believers,” who have dire images of the earth in the future….and, in some bizarre “Star Wars” sense, they seem to view one another as true champions of the planet!”
I think the true believers are mostly at the bottom of the food chain. The dancing dimwits in the recent Cancun video for instance. I equate them to the flower children of the 1960’s and don’t really fault them for it i.e. if you’re young and conservative you have no heart but if you’re old and liberal you have no brain. I can’t despise the young people for having a heart in the sure knowledge that most of them will acquire a brain when they grow up and discover the real world outside academia and hopefully not lose their heart in the process – cynics in the making. The people at the top of the food chain see them as useful idiots. The leaders are driven by power and greed and perhaps guilt to some degree for being privileged citizen of a wealthy nation by mere circumstance of birth and knowing that unbridled consumption of fossil fuel is a primary driver in how their nation became rich – victims of their own politics of guilt which is the prime motivator of the liberal left even though most of them are hypocrites who only pay lip service to redressing societal injustice.
Evolutionists are a bit different in that the leaders are driven by a belief that religion is the source of all evil and that if it just went away and was replaced by secular humanism the world would magically transform into some kind of Shangri-la where greed, injustice, strife and warfare no longer exist.