Shredding the "climate consensus" myth: More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Challenge UN IPCC & Gore

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INTRODUCTION:

More than 1000 dissenting scientists (updates previous 700 scientist report) from around the globe have now challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 2010 320page Climate Depot Special Report — updated from 2007’s groundbreaking U.S. Senate Report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming “consensus” — features the skeptical voices of over 1000 international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated 2010 report includes a dramatic increase of over 300 additional (and growing) scientists and climate researchers since the last update in March 2009. This report’s release coincides with the 2010 UN global warming summit being held in Cancun.

The more than 300 additional scientists added to this report since March 2009 (21 months ago), represents an average of nearly four skeptical scientists a week speaking out publicly. The well over 1000 dissenting scientists are almost 20 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

The chorus of skeptical scientific voices grew louder in 2010 as the Climategate scandal — which involved the upper echelon of UN IPCC scientists — detonated upon on the international climate movement. “I view Climategate as science fraud, pure and simple,” said noted Princeton Physicist Dr. Robert Austin shortly after the scandal broke. Climategate prompted UN IPCC scientists to turn on each other. UN IPCC scientist Eduardo Zorita publicly declared that his Climategate colleagues Michael Mann and Phil Jones “should be barred from the IPCC process…They are not credible anymore.” Zorita also noted how insular the IPCC science had become. “By writing these lines I will just probably achieve that a few of my future studies will, again, not see the light of publication,” Zorita wrote. A UN lead author Richard Tol lead author grew disillusioned with the IPCC and lamented that it had been “captured” and demanded that “the Chair of IPCC and the Chairs of the IPCC Working Groups should be removed.” Tol also publicly called for the “suspension” of IPCC Process in 2010 after being invited by the UN to participate as lead author again in the next IPCC Report.

Other UN scientists were more blunt. South African UN scientist declared the UN IPCC a “worthless carcass” and noted IPCC chair Pachauri is in “disgrace”. He also explained that the “fraudulent science continues to be exposed.” Alexander, a former member of the UN Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters harshly critiqued the UN. “‘I was subjected to vilification tactics at the time. I persisted. Now, at long last, my persistence has been rewarded…There is no believable evidence to support [the IPCC] claims. I rest my case!” See: S. African UN Scientist Calls it! ‘Climate change – RIP: Cause of Death: No scientifically believable evidence…Deliberate manipulation to suit political objectives’ [Also see: New Report: UN Scientists Speak Out On Global Warming — As Skeptics!] Geologist Dr. Don Easterbrook, a professor of geology at Western Washington University, summed up the scandal on December 3, 2010: “The corruption within the IPCC revealed by the Climategate scandal, the doctoring of data and the refusal to admit mistakes have so severely tainted the IPCC that it is no longer a credible agency.”

Selected Highlights of the Updated 2010 Report featuring over 1000 international scientists dissenting from man-made climate fears:

“We’re not scientifically there yet. Despite what you may have heard in the media, there is nothing like a consensus of scientific opinion that this is a problem. Because there is natural variability in the weather, you cannot statistically know for another 150 years.” — UN IPCC’s Tom Tripp, a member of the UN IPCC since 2004 and listed as one of the lead authors and serves as the Director of Technical Services & Development for U.S. Magnesium.

“Any reasonable scientific analysis must conclude the basic theory wrong!!” — NASA Scientist Dr. Leonard Weinstein who worked 35 years at the NASA Langley Research Center and finished his career there as a Senior Research Scientist. Weinstein, is presently a Senior Research Fellow at the National Institute of Aerospace.

“Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself — Climate is beyond our power to control…Earth doesn’t care about governments or their legislation. You can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone’s permission or explaining itself.” — Nobel Prize-Winning Stanford University Physicist Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, who won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1998, and was formerly a research scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

“In essence, the jig is up. The whole thing is a fraud. And even the fraudsters that fudged data are admitting to temperature history that they used to say didn’t happen…Perhaps what has doomed the Climategate fraudsters the most was their brazenness in fudging the data” — Dr. Christopher J. Kobus, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Oakland University, specializes in alternative energy, thermal transport phenomena, two-phase flow and fluid and thermal energy systems.

“The energy mankind generates is so small compared to that overall energy budget that it simply cannot affect the climate…The planet’s climate is doing its own thing, but we cannot pinpoint significant trends in changes to it because it dates back millions of years while the study of it began only recently. We are children of the Sun; we simply lack data to draw the proper conclusions.” — Russian Scientist Dr. Anatoly Levitin, the head of geomagnetic variations laboratory at the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere and Radiowave Propagation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Hundreds of billion dollars have been wasted with the attempt of imposing a Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory that is not supported by physical world evidences…AGW has been forcefully imposed by means of a barrage of scare stories and indoctrination that begins in the elementary school textbooks.” — Brazilian Geologist Geraldo Luís Lino, who authored the 2009 book “The Global Warming Fraud: How a Natural Phenomenon Was Converted into a False World Emergency.”

“I am an environmentalist,” but “I must disagree with Mr. Gore” — Chemistry Professor Dr. Mary Mumper, the chair of the Chemistry Department at Frostburg State University in Maryland, during her presentation titled “Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming, the Skeptic’s View.”

“I am ashamed of what climate science has become today,” The science “community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what ‘science’ has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed…Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring,

“Those who call themselves ‘Green planet advocates’ should be arguing for a CO2- fertilized atmosphere, not a CO2-starved atmosphere…Diversity increases when the planet was warm AND had high CO2 atmospheric content…Al Gore’s personal behavior supports a green planet – his enormous energy use with his 4 homes and his bizjet, does indeed help make the planet greener. Kudos, Al for doing your part to save the planet.” — Renowned engineer and aviation/space pioneer Burt Rutan, who was named “100 most influential people in the world, 2004” by Time Magazine and Newsweek called him “the man responsible for more innovations in modern aviation than any living engineer.”

“Global warming is the central tenet of this new belief system in much the same way that the Resurrection is the central tenet of Christianity. Al Gore has taken a role corresponding to that of St Paul in proselytizing the new faith…My skepticism about AGW arises from the fact that as a physicist who has worked in closely related areas, I know how poor the underlying science is. In effect the scientific method has been abandoned in this field.” — Atmospheric Physicist Dr. John Reid, who worked with Australia’s CSIRO’s (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization) Division of Oceanography and worked in surface gravity waves (ocean waves) research.

“We maintain there is no reason whatsoever to worry about man-made climate change, because there is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening.” — Greek Earth scientists Antonis Christofides and Nikos Mamassis of the National Technical University of Athens’ Department of Water Resources and Environmental Engineering.

“There are clear cycles during which both temperature and salinity rise and fall. These cycles are related to solar activity…In my opinion and that of our institute, the problems connected to the current stage of warming are being exaggerated. What we are dealing with is not a global warming of the atmosphere or of the oceans.” — Biologist Pavel Makarevich of the Biological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences

“Because the greenhouse effect is temporary rather than permanent, predictions of significant global warming in the 21st century by IPCC are not supported by the data.” — Hebrew University Professor Dr. Michael Beenstock an honorary fellow with Institute for Economic Affairs who published a study challenging man-made global warming claims titled “Polynomial Cointegration Tests of the Anthropogenic Theory of Global Warming.”

“The whole idea of anthropogenic global warming is completely unfounded. There appears to have been money gained by Michael Mann, Al Gore and UN IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri as a consequence of this deception, so it’s fraud.” — South African astrophysicist Hilton Ratcliffe, a member of the Astronomical Society of Southern Africa (ASSA) and the Astronomical Society of the Pacific and a Fellow of the British Institute of Physics.

End Selected Excerpts

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Background: Only 52 Scientists Participated in UN IPCC Summary

The notion of “hundreds” or “thousands” of UN scientists agreeing to a scientific statement does not hold up to scrutiny. (See report debunking “consensus” LINK) Recent research by Australian climate data analyst John McLean revealed that the IPCC’s peer-review process for the Summary for Policymakers leaves much to be desired. (LINK) (LINK) (LINK) & (LINK) (Note: The 52 scientists who participated in the 2007 IPCC Summary for Policymakers had to adhere to the wishes of the UN political leaders and delegates in a process described as more closely resembling a political party’s convention platform battle, not a scientific process – LINK)

Proponents of man-made global warming like to note how the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) and the American Meteorological Society (AMS) have issued statements endorsing the so-called “consensus” view that man is driving global warming. But both the NAS and AMS never allowed member scientists to directly vote on these climate statements. Essentially, only two dozen or so members on the governing boards of these institutions produced the “consensus” statements. This report gives a voice to the rank-and-file scientists who were shut out of the process. (LINK)

The NAS has come under fire for its lobbying practices. See: NAS Pres. Ralph Cicerone Turns Science Org. into political advocacy group: $6 million NAS study is used to lobby for global warming bill & Cicerone’s Shame: NAS Urges Carbon Tax, Becomes Advocacy Group — ‘political appointees heading politicized scientific institutions that are virtually 100% dependent on gov’t funding’ MIT’s Richard Lindzen harshly rebuked NAS president Cicerone in his Congressional testimony in November 2010. Lindzen testified: “Cicerone [of NAS] is saying that regardless of evidence the answer is predetermined. If government wants carbon control, that is the answer that the Academies will provide.” [ Also See: MIT Climate Scientist Exposes ‘Corrupted Science’ in Devastating Critique – November 29, 2008 ]

While the scientists contained in this report hold a diverse range of views, they generally rally around several key points. 1) The Earth is currently well within natural climate variability. 2) Almost all climate fear is generated by unproven computer model predictions. 3) An abundance of peer-reviewed studies continue to debunk rising CO2 fears and, 4) “Consensus” has been manufactured for political, not scientific purposes.

Scientists caution that the key to remember is “climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables,” not just CO2. UK Professor Emeritus of Biogeography Philip Stott of the University of London decried the notion that CO2 is the main climate driver. “As I have said, over and over again, the fundamental point has always been this: climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, and the very idea that we can manage climate change predictably by understanding and manipulating at the margins one politically-selected factor is as misguided as it gets,” Stott wrote in 2008. Even the climate activists at RealClimate.org let this fact slip out in a September 20, 2008 article. “The actual temperature rise is an emergent property resulting from interactions among hundreds of factors,” RealClimate.org admitted in a rare moment of candor.]

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Garry
December 9, 2010 3:31 am

Yes, the widespread mainstream media predictions that Cancun would be “a disaster” have seemed suspiciously facile, too convenient, too widespread, and hence diversionary. In retrospect it is obvious that UNFCCC and others would very much like to NOT to have too much media or public attention focused on their plans and activities.
So in this light the perceived lack of attention on Cancun is actually a huge PR success for the CAGW statists and totalitarians and redistributionists.
Iren says December 8, 2010 at 9:58 pm: “Lord Monckton has written another, much more sombre (indeed terrifying) report from Cancun”
http://sppiblog.org/news/the-abdication-of-the-west

val majkus
December 9, 2010 3:54 am

O/T BUT
Another big story to emerge today:
It increasingly appears that the science is just a pretext and the stakes are much larger:
http://sppiblog.org/news/the-abdication-of-the-west
reported by Lord Monckton:
The abdication of the West
December 9th, 2010
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
From the SPPI Blog
Cancun, Mexico
I usually add some gentle humor to these reports. Not today. Read this and weep. Notwithstanding the carefully-orchestrated propaganda to the effect that nothing much will be decided at the UN climate conference here in Cancun, the decisions to be made here this week signal nothing less than the abdication of the West. The governing class in what was once proudly known as the Free World is silently, casually letting go of liberty, prosperity, and even democracy itself. No one in the mainstream media will tell you this, not so much because they do not see as because they do not bl**dy care.
The 33-page Note (FCCC/AWGLCA/2010/CRP.2) by the Chairman of the “Ad-Hoc Working Group on Long-Term Co-operative Action under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change”, entitled Possible elements of the outcome, reveals all. Or, rather, it reveals nothing, unless one understands what the complex, obscure jargon means. All UNFCCC documents at the Cancun conference, specifically including Possible elements of the outcome, are drafted with what is called “transparent impenetrability”. The intention is that the documents should not be understood, but that later we shall be told they were in the public domain all the time, so what are we complaining about?
The UN wants nothing less than 1.5% of our GDP.
That’s $212 billion from the USA every year ($2700 per family of 4).
That’s $32 billion from the UK every year ($2000 per family of 4).
That’s $13 billion from Australia every year ($2400 per family of 4).
Read in full the outcome being sought by the UN at the link above or at Jo Nova’s blog http://joannenova.com.au/
World Government!!!!!Communist style

December 9, 2010 3:56 am

“Aside from Briffa or the excrescent Michael Mann, post-1995 graduates in “climate studies” (sic) are conspicuous by their absence…”
Not really so surprising, and for several reasons.
1) These graduates came out of an indoctrination program. The older scientists didn’t.
2) The young are full of hubris and by-and-large believe themselves to be better and smarter than the old phogies that preceeded them. Of course they see things how they really are, and are going to save the world, etc, etc, etc.
3) Of the younger scientists that weren’t successfully brainwashed and have an objective open mind, there’s social pressure to keep their yaps closed if they intend to progress in their careers. That sort of threat is much more dramatic to a 30 year old than it is to a 55 year old who’s built his own reputation and has a place marked out for himself already.

Rod
December 9, 2010 4:47 am

It’s very hard to get optimistic about that here in Brazil, the media shows absolutelly nothing about skepticism over AGW, the most popular news website shows pictures of the sea level close to the Christ the Redeemer in Rio, only a few people that understands english can see what’s really happening.
PS: Sorry for my bad english. =P

Alex the skeptic
December 9, 2010 4:54 am

In my country we have an old saying: A lier’s life is short.

steveta_uk
December 9, 2010 5:01 am

I suspect the quote attributed to Dr. Hans Jelbring is wrong.
It comes from this paper:
http://www.tech-know.eu/NISubmission/pdf/Politics_and_the_Greenhouse_Effect.pdf
in a section apparently written by “William C. Gilbert”, who is not a climatologist. Doesn’t make him wrong, of course, but he’s not an “expert”.

ShaneCMuir
December 9, 2010 6:01 am

A Letter to the Editor I sent to my local newspaper:
There has been a lot of discussion in the media about Wikileaks recently but I have noticed that some news outlets, most notably the Telegraph in England, have incorrectly credited Wikileaks with the Climategate emails from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that were leaked last year. The two leaks really should be separated as much as possible. While Wikileaks recent release of information could be considered interesting – much like a gossip magazine is mildly amusing – the Climategate emails were vast enough in their implications to effectively change a persons ‘world view’.
The leaked emails showed that the science of Climate Change was anything but ‘settled’. The emails revealed a bunch of agenda driven people who were prepared to go to nearly any length to “hide the decline” of temperatures in the last decade even though Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere had most certainly increased. These so called ‘scientists’ were willing to illegally delete emails, delete raw data, get sceptics fired, manipulate the peer review process and simply make data up out of thin air in a desperate attempt to fool the people of the world into believing that catastrophic man-made global warming was inevitable unless we taxed and traded the air plants breath and the water people drink. One would think that this information release would have brought that whole process to a screaming halt, but no, government representatives are meeting in Cancun Mexico at this very moment trying to pretend that the science is, indeed, settled. At the same time a recently released report has over 1000 international scientists and climate researchers, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, disagreeing with the IPCC findings. That is 20 times the number of scientists on the UN panel itself. So much for settled science! Meanwhile the world has its eyes and ears fixated on a relatively unimportant.. Mini-leak.

johnnythelowery
December 9, 2010 6:24 am

It ain’t over and even if there is a lull, the battle has only just begun. The present generation will always believe Cadillacs & Hummers are warming the planet (But, oddly: not BizJets) and they will always feel the atmosphere is finite and pumping pollution into it the way China is going indefinately can only be bad; all those coal fired power plants, etc.
King ‘AGW BY CO2’ is Dead. Long Live the King.

vigilantfish
December 9, 2010 6:35 am

Jenn Oates says:
December 8, 2010 at 10:27 pm
A few years ago I got an email from a furious parent because I told her daughter that AGW was a hoax and that it was all politics, not science. The parent lambasted me for my weather/climate unit, and told me that I ought to be ashamed of myself for trying to brainwash my students and start teaching science, and keep out of politics (I had mentioned our friend Al).
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Congratulations, Jenn. It encourages me when I hear about teachers that refuse to toe the politically correct line. My husband is another such – but I fear you are few and far between. Keep up the good work!

Jay
December 9, 2010 7:31 am

val majkus wrote:
“The UN wants nothing less than 1.5% of our GDP.
That’s $212 billion from the USA every year ($2700 per family of 4).
That’s $32 billion from the UK every year ($2000 per family of 4).
That’s $13 billion from Australia every year ($2400 per family of 4).
World Government!!!!!Communist style”
The problem with this is the USA does not have 212 billion a year to spend…we are broke, in debt, and getting worse.

Jeremy
December 9, 2010 7:34 am

RR Kampen says:
December 9, 2010 at 3:05 am
Never the picture Gore painted, but many people cannot parse the word ‘if’. Gore said: ‘If the Greenland ice sheet melted, a sea level rise of six metres would ensue’. Normal people people read: ‘The Greenland ice sheet is melting! Tomorrow sea level stands six metres higher!’.

I see, so the shrill predictions of doom were all correctly caveated and we’ve all just misinterpreted? Is that what you’re saying? This is a joke and a very poor attempt at trolling.

Let’s follow the money if we want to know where the ‘dissent’ (essentially the denial of CO2 as a GHG) comes from:
Lobbying activities ramped up in 2009 as the House of Representatives began debate… The entire electric utility industry spent more than $264 million on lobbying alone in 2009 and the first half of 2010. Oil and gas interests spent a record $175 million lobbying in 2009—a 30 percent increase from 2008—and have spent $75 million already in 2010.
Going to a billion per year and you know what? You’re all paying for it, every time you airco or heat your house, every time when you fill her up (the car). IPCC’s budget is a lousy five million, it’s a miracle the organisation survives.

And whenever you pay taxes, you are (as we now know) paying for publicly funded scientists turned into advocates to lie to you about whether or not they’ve accounted for the urban heat island effects, the effects of solar cycles on climate, the statistical significance of any warming found, the absence of the signature hot-spot over the tropics, the negative feedback effects climate has, etc..etc.. all down the list.
At least with energy companies, I have choice. You have no choice when it comes to taxes taken out of your paycheck. You people like to speak of “dirty money”, but the reality is that money freely given to a corporation for a service is far far cleaner than money that government forcefully takes from you on threat of incarceration. If you don’t agree, go spend some time in a nation where a taxed peasant class still exists. I’m sure it will be difficult to get into North Korea, but you seem enthusiastic so I give you even odds of making it past the mindwashed soldiers with guns.

December 9, 2010 7:49 am

The list is still incomplete – I can think of at least one skeptical scientist who is not in there. It is also poorly arranged – there seems to be no structure to it. For example it is hard see where the number 1000 comes from.
A useful project might be to set up a web-based list and keep it up-to-date.
Perhaps this could be done wiki-style as a collaborative effort.
Ironically, one of the best list of skeptics is at the website of arch-warmist Jim Prall. He has 496 names on his list.

Marcelo Santos
December 9, 2010 8:06 am

How can I add my name to the list of skeptical scholars?

ShaneCMuir
December 9, 2010 8:37 am

Jay says:
December 9, 2010 at 7:31 am
“The problem with this is the USA does not have 212 billion a year to spend…we are broke, in debt, and getting worse.”
I am sick to death of hearing this catch phrase.. every country is supposedly in debt right now.
Now, I am not saying give money to the UN, certainly NOT!!
But every sovereign country can be out of debt over night by following a very simple philosophy.
Its called “Social Credit”.
Don’t believe me?
Then go to this website: http://alor.org/
Scroll down to near the bottom and watch the videos under “Social Dynamics MOV Files”
It is all explained very clearly.. but remember that JFK was murdered for doing this.
.. or was it because he was creating peace with the Russians?
.. or was it because he didn’t want to go to war in Vietnam?
Damn.. JFK did a lot of things right.. hard to work out what he got killed for.
But anyway.. research “Social Credit”.. it is the way out of debt for all sovereign countries.

Ga'Tor
December 9, 2010 8:49 am

For all of those with an open mind on the issue of Anthropogenic Global Warming, you should know that there are a significant number of scientists who do NOT support the concept. There are over 31,000 scientists who have signed the Petition Against Global Warming, who are opposed to the theory of AGW. Unlike most of the so called scientists who support AGW, most of who have no background or training in the earth sciences, the opposing PAGW scientists all have degrees which are related to Climatology, geology etc. Over 9000 of them are Ph.D.’s and the minimum qualifier to be on the petition is a BA in a field related to climate change. Do a search and find the truth for yourselves. The PAGW site lists all the scientists by name and shows how many scientists are in each field related to the earth sciences.

December 9, 2010 9:11 am

steveta_uk says:
December 9, 2010 at 5:01 am
I suspect the quote attributed to Dr. Hans Jelbring is wrong.
It comes from this paper:
http://www.tech-know.eu/NISubmission/pdf/Politics_and_the_Greenhouse_Effect.pdf
in a section apparently written by “William C. Gilbert”, who is not a climatologist. Doesn’t make him wrong, of course, but he’s not an “expert”.
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Thanks for alerting me. I have corrected the introduction and the body of the report with the following:
I am ashamed of what climate science has become today.” The science “community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what ‘science’ has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed.” — Research Chemist William C. Gilbert published a study in August 2010 in the journal Energy & Environment titled “The thermodynamic relationship between surface temperature and water vapor concentration in the troposphere” and he published a paper in August 2009 titled “Atmospheric Temperature Distribution in a Gravitational Field.” [Update December 9, 2010]
“The dysfunctional nature of the climate sciences is nothing short of a scandal. Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” The global warming establishment “has actively suppressed research results presented by researchers that do not comply with the dogma of the IPCC.” — Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring, of the Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics Unit at Stockholm University. [Updated December 9, 2010. Corrects Jelbring’s quote.]

December 9, 2010 9:13 am

Ga’Tor says:
December 9, 2010 at 8:49 am
For all of those with an open mind on the issue of Anthropogenic Global Warming, you should know that there are a significant number of scientists who do NOT support the concept.
—-
http://petitionproject.com/
They are also very clear as to exactly which “global warming” they are referring to.

December 9, 2010 9:15 am

Richard S.J. Tol says:
December 8, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Note the nature of the “dissent”. Zorita (the second one named) disagrees with Mann and Jones on technical grounds — how to do proxy-based reconstructions of past climates — but he does subscribe to the view that the planet is warming because of human activity.
I (the third one named) think that the IPCC misrepresents the literature on the impacts of climate change and climate policy, and that this is a symptom of structural problems at the IPCC — but I also think at anthropogenic climate change is real and a problem that should be solved.
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Richard, you, Zorita, Curry, Lovelock, and Hulme are written about in the Introduction to the report, but none of you are included in the count of well over 1000 scientists. The Introduction just makes note of your views on the IPCC. I have added a note to clarify this in the introduction.
Thanks
Marc

December 9, 2010 9:18 am

with guns.
PaulM says:
December 9, 2010 at 7:49 am
The list is still incomplete – I can think of at least one skeptical scientist who is not in there. It is also poorly arranged – there seems to be no structure to it. For example it is hard see where the number 1000 comes from.
A useful project might be to set up a web-based list and keep it up-to-date.
Perhaps this could be done wiki-style as a collaborative effort.
Ironically, one of the best list of skeptics is at the website of arch-warmist Jim Prall. He has 496 names on his list.
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Paul,
Thanks for the feedback. I do have spreadsheet with all of the names and may format and publish soon. The numbers will easily exceed 1100 when all of the German scientist open letter names are included.
Marc

Dr. Dave
December 9, 2010 9:53 am

Many thanks and curses to Marc Morano. For 5 years I have been a hip, fashionable avant garde denier. Now everybody’s doing it! Time to start wearing turtlenecks and take up smoking! Hell…the next thing you know people will start demanding LIBERTY!

C_NDelta
December 9, 2010 9:58 am

Ga’Tor says:
December 9, 2010 at 8:49 am
“There are over 31,000 scientists who have signed the Petition Against Global Warming, who are opposed to the theory of AGW. Unlike most of the so called scientists who support AGW, most of who have no background or training in the earth sciences, the opposing PAGW scientists all have degrees which are related to Climatology, geology etc. Over 9000 of them are Ph.D.’s and the minimum qualifier to be on the petition is a BA in a field related to climate change. Do a search and find the truth for yourselves. The PAGW site lists all the scientists by name and shows how many scientists are in each field related to the earth sciences.”

This is precisely the list of scientists that Andrew Weaver poo-poo’d in his radio comments as being nothing more than an “internet” online survey that anyone could sign on to or something to that effect. Per the radio show link I posted earlier.
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Ken Harvey
December 9, 2010 10:25 am

There is a looming problem. If governments, just a few, start acknowledging that we have all been had, what are they going to do about the subsidy contracts that they have given to wind farmers? Once the majority of tax payers understand the truth they will not only want the subsidies stopped, they will want those ugly wind farms torn down. Lawyers should do well.

David, UK
December 9, 2010 10:45 am

As far as I am concerned, the “more than 1000” is a good start. We need even more learned sceptics to speak out. I am sure they will come, but many will only speak out after the political and economic damage has long been done and they find that they are no longer useful.

RR Kampen
December 9, 2010 11:00 am

Jeremy says:
December 9, 2010 at 7:34 am
[..]
I see, so the shrill predictions of doom were all correctly caveated and we’ve all just misinterpreted? Is that what you’re saying?

You can check my statements exactly by e.g. reviewing ‘An Inconvenient Truth’. Listen to the word ‘if’.
I know there are ‘greenies’ out there whose culture is alarmism and I distance myself from them. But indeed much ‘alarmism’ is coined by AGW-skeptics then shoved into the mouth of climate scientists or IPPC reporting.
As for taxes: vote political parties who would like to do away with them. You might succeed, you might not. However, that is democracy. Taxes I feel are forced away from me are invested in weaponry or overseas occupations of countries we have nothing to seek. On the other hand, there are taxes I’m willing to pay that other people are just as vehemently opposed to. Democracy is compromise, compromise, compromise.
The reality is then, that you are free to pay no taxes. Consequentially you should either break the law or create a situation with no income in terms of money.
The situation with energy companies is comparable: you are free to use no energy, or to steal it – both actions have consequences (‘you pays your money and you takes your choice’). If you decide to buy energy then you are willing to pay the price both for cited lobbies and the guys and countries (often ruled by nasty regimes) that hold up prices as high as possible by, e.g., creating artificial scarcities (I think Enron became famous for that kind of expertise).
It is all your choice. My post simply explained in part what you are paying for.
Aside, I think you should pull back the ‘troll’ remark. It can have only one reason: this is the fact that my post was effectively placed twice. The first version contained an error (the word ‘people’ one time too many). I should have drawn a mods attention to that and would be happier if the first version were deleted.

December 9, 2010 12:04 pm

Since the OISM Petition has been mentioned several times here, it might be worth reading what the 30,000+ co-signers were actually stating:

The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

That is an unambiguous statement that places the belief in CAGW where it belongs: in the realm of science fiction and fantasy.