From Nopenhagen to Yes We Cancun
by Christopher Monckton
Thanks to Wikileaks, everyone here in the Mañana Republic of Mexico now knows just how much bullying and arm-twisting the administration of Barack Obama in the United States applied to various countries around the world so that they would (and did) sign up to the Copenhagen climate accord.
Without that pressure, nothing at all would have happened at Copenhagen this time last year, and “the Process” – the interminable round of flatulent annual climate conferences in exotic locations at taxpayers’ expense – would have tipped into the gulch forever.
The hard Left has learned the hard way that democracies do not welcome it and, in the end, will reject it. So the climate extremists have abandoned last year’s attempt, in the now-defunct September 15 Copenhagen Treaty draft, to install overnight an unelected world government consisting only of themselves, with unlimited powers of taxation, economic and environmental regulation without representation, as well as control of all formerly free markets worldwide, all in the name of Saving The Planet (which, of course, was triumphantly Saved 2000 years ago and does not need to be Saved again).
Instead, the Martini Marxists dancing the night away doing the Cancun Can-Can with the 25 pneumatic bunny girls in the newly-opened Playboy Casino on the ocean-front strip in Cancun have decided to copy the bureaucrats of the European Union, whose crafty, crabwise coup d’etat over the last three or four decades has transferred all real political power, little by little, treaty by treaty, to the dismal dictatorship of Brussels.
Though there is a toothless democratic fig-leaf in the shape of the European “Parliament”, all decisions in the EU are in fact taken by a couple of dozen faceless, overpaid Kommissars (that is the official German mot juste for them) – faceless because they meet behind closed doors and then emerge to promulgate their “Directives”: on average, one every three hours, day and night, Sundays and holidays included, 365 days a year, 366 days on leap-years.
In Europe, democracy has gone. Perma-Socialism has quietly supplanted it. If demolishing democracy worked there, the enviro-zombs’ reasoning goes, it will work on a worldwide scale, if only the crumbling pretext for global tyranny – the supposed need to prevent catastrophic “global warming” – can be kept going for long enough even though most ordinary voters (in those nations lucky enough to have them) have seen through the scam long since.
The Process works like this. A multitude of long, inspissate, obfuscatory, obnubilating, obscurantist draft agreements are circulated, always a day or two late for delegates to find out what they have actually agreed to. The daily timetables for the various “working” sessions of the conference are never available until breakfast-time on the day, allowing no scope for planning the day. By these means, most delegates are kept permanently and completely in the dark.
Here is a typical paragraph from one of these leaden documents:
“The SBSTA welcomed the report (FCCC/SBSTA/2010/INF.10) on the second workshop of the work programme on revising the “Guidelines for the preparation of national communications by Parties included in Annex I to the Convention Part I: UNFCCC reporting guidelines on annual inventories” (hereinafter referred to as the UNFCCC Annex I reporting guidelines), held in Bonn, Germany, from 3 to 4 November 2010, which was organized by the secretariat as requested by the SBSTA at its thirtieth session.”
Try to read several hundred pages of this stuff. It simply isn’t possible. And that, of course, is the idea. This is the Mushroom-Growers’ Management Method writ large: keep them in the dark and feed them plenty of sh*t.
What these ramblings conceal is the remarkably rapid rate at which dozens – no, hundreds – of new bureaucracies are being created as The Process grinds on. As anyone at the Playboy Casino will tell you, “somebody gotta pay for all those lights.” And that somebody is you, gentle taxpayer. No one has yet managed to discover just how much these hundreds of new supranational climate-change bureaucracies are costing us. That is an international state secret – until Wikileaks gets hold of the figures, of course.
h/t to the Science and Public Policy Institute.
David says: December 6, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Watch the pea under the thimble, as someone else here said.
Monckton is a beautifully courteous listener, as we’ve all seen. Therefore he will have aimed pretty true, with his words here, and drawn pretty well the range of responses he would hope for. Also, he is not hated and vilified without reason.
Ah, it is a difficult question. How can one be political without being flagrantly materialistic or naively revolutionary? How can one grow one’s soul, to rise to the challenge with uprightness, when neo-Darwinism denies that the soul even exists or matters? How can one say Your leaders are slowly taking away your citizens’ rights and powers, creating a growing army of dependent supporters hidden in bureaucracy, “health and safety”, the Litigation Culture, and academia, when everyone is well-fed? Can we remember just how few well-placed insiders it took to tip the Russian revolution into no-human-rights Communism?
As correctly pointed out by two posters (sorry guys – you were too far back up the list to find again) – isn’t it time that CO2 was DE-demonised..?
Check out websites for commercial tomato growing – what do you suppose they pump into their polytunnels..? Yep – you’ve got it – CO2 – to concentrations of 800-1000ppm. Why do they do it..? Well – it ain’t to ‘increase their carbon footprint’ – I suspect its to make their CROPS GROW BETTER…
While I’m at it – what do you suppose is the CO2 limit in submarines..? 400ppm..? 1000ppm..? Nope – its 8000ppm – and to the best of my knowledge no submariners have keeled over due to an excess of CO2.
So – what chance of getting a sense of proportion back into government edicts..? Precious little I suspect – while they persist in pursuing a target of reducing CO2 by 80% (yes, that’s EIGHTY PERCENT) by 2050 – while completely ignoring their principal duty, which is to keep the lights on. Even more worrying is that the EU has sent our very own Jabba the Hutt (also known as Two Jags – or ‘don’t do as I do, do as I say’ John Prescott) to Cancun, to report back to them on what else needs to be done to keep the serfs of Europe singing from the correct hymn sheet…
Back to CO2 – I’ve got an idea which I reckon is at least worth a Nobel prize. Instead of burying it at VAST expense to the poor electricity consumer – why not use clean-coal-driven fans to BLOW it at these stoopid windmills – that way they’d turn 24/7 instead of once in a blue moon..?
I know – its brilliant, isn’t it..??
[Ah, but the fact that there is a CO2 “limit” of 8000 ppm on subs doesn’t mean that CO2 is frequently at that high a level, nor that CO2 (inside a nuclear submarine trapped underwater for many days) is an ideal or desired environment. It just means that there aren’t military-significant harms at that level when breathed by healthy young males for short times when we breathed them at those levels. 8<) Robt]
I agree with everything Lord Monckton says, *except* for all that EU bashing. The EU is no more a “dictatorship” than all our different national governments. It’s a *general* problem on every level, everywhere that politicians sit on top and aim to decide too much. It’s not EU specific at all.
The EU is a difficult project. To get the different countries closer together in cooperation is a daunty task, given the continent’s history (eg two World Wars the last 100 years, the Iron Curtain and lots of other junk). The EU deserves to be described in a much more positive manner. Even if we think that the EU presently is a bit too AGW friendly, we should also remember that it may very well also be a driving force in finally making sure that the greenie nightmare is buried and dead. And that may happen sooner then we think. There are many and a growing number of climate critics in a Europe covered in snow.
–Ahrvid
Some people on this site really don’t seem to be getting it. Linking god (whether you believe in him or not) to climate skepticism is a complete non-sequitur. This is supposed to be about AGW science, of which there are, of course, many rationally justifiable objections. As someone who is both a climate skeptic, a liberal and an atheist, I’m getting so sick of posters on this and other threads on this site demonstrating an implicit assumption that climate skepticism, right wing politics and religion are inextricably linked; and before anyone accuses me of intolerance, i have no problem with people believing what they like about anything, so long as it doesn’t pick anybody elses pocket. I realise monckton’s christian reference was satire, but it’s one of the few things he says that really grates with me like nails on a blackboard, he’s much stronger when he sticks to climate science; some of us neither need, nor want, to be ‘saved’, (nor do we find any reason to believe that jesus did save in the first place)whether it’s by self-aggrandising-AGW-proponents or Jesus, Mohammed, Odin or anybody else. It’s all irrational as far as i’m concerned and simply is not relevant, and i agree with those on here who say it harms the AGW crouds’ perception of us, by making us sound exactly like the anti-scientific, fundamentalist cranks that they, wrongly, generalise us all to be.
‘Hiccup #1. …’we don’t need God on ‘our side”…
Obvious Answer: We’re on HIS side ~ not the other way around, I’m glad others picked up on that one, but I needed to second that.’
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What? , Talk about begging the question, how do you, and how could you, possibly know that?.
‘Hiccup #2: …mentioning God… could ‘detract from any knowledgeable scientific debate’…
That, were it to become commonplace, is, tacitly agreeing not to acknowledge Science, as Science at all.
True Science is God’s brilliance and our OBSERVATION of that Brilliance, nothing more. (Gosh…Where’s Chuck Missler when you need him…how many of you have seen his Genesis Commentary?…she ponders)’
This is a classic example of another fascinating discussion, which has sod all to do with climate. In any case, if you really want this discussion, the brilliance of science is arguably just as brilliant whether you give it a metaphysical narrative or not; as laplace said when asked why his view of nature and the cosmos had no reference to god: ‘it all works fine without that hypothesis’ – alright i’m paraphrasing, but that’s the gist of it.
while we’re on the subject:
‘Of late the secularists have been just as obnoxious as religious zealots who keep beating the drum for their religious view points. In so doing they are being religious zealots themselves — just that their religion is anti-religion.’ –
I’m sorry, i cant let this one go either. Were the abolitionists just as obnoxious as the slave owners in their opposition to them? We aren’t being obnoxious, we’re just expressing the views which society says it’s rude to posess, and taboo to express, you’re not expected to like those views, but disagreeing with them doesn’t make us zealous, amoral fundamentalists. Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons we atheists tend to be so angry might be because we are so wilfully lied about in so many ways?
Atheists, secularists and humanists are reacting TO zealotry, as in the catholic church child rape scandal, if it’s obnoxious to be angry about this then please tell me what we could be righteously indignant about without being labelled zealous?. Atheism is not an ideology, there is absolutely nothing we are expected to believe on faith, therefore it doesn’t enjoin anyone into doing anything, it just means you dont see any reason or evidence to believe in god/s. Secularism by definition is about all views being equal in the public sphere, none religious and religious alike, neither one being oppressed nor priveliged; and religious beliefs being a private matter which no one can interfere with, so long as it doesn’t ask for special dispensation from the state for those views. what’s zealous about that? the only way you could possibly object to that is if you wanted to privelige one view, very likely your own, or religious views in general, over the rest of us.
Climate skeptics are wider community than we’re given credit for, lets not give our opponents more reason to ignore our views. Stick to the science please.
South Park . . . S9/E8 “Two days before the day after tomorrow”.
Says it all , and so clearly, it could have been written by CM himself.
dwright seems to miss a bit of information.
Latest from the BBC
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The Carbon War Room, co-founded by Sir Richard Branson, has launched an online tool grading 60,000 commercial vessels according to their emissions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11931883
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Clearly, he has every intention of going into space.
Great!
Lord Monckton does it again, thanks.
Larry, Moe, and Curly say, “Cancun spelled backwards is nuc nac.”
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LOL!
ChrisC1983 at 5:06 am
Easy there Grasshopper! While you make some valid points, especially about the superfluousness of being labeled “anything” including being labelled zealous or zealots, you can no more separate science and religion than you can weather and climate or math and words or being separate and to separate. They are all illusions and products of the human mind and each human mind “sees” them differently. And where you say – Atheism is not an ideology, there is absolutely nothing we are expected to believe on faith… It is absolutely an ideology and you proved it by stating one of it’s tenants – you are expected (required) to NOT believe anything by faith. And, if ever there was or is a “subject” that absolutely requires faith, it’s science! Further, just because Atheism doesn’t enjoin anyone into doing anything So what!?! That just makes it devoid of any value. That’s the whole point of faith. Doing nothing is meaning less. It’s not what you don’t do in life that has value, it’s what you do, do that makes you human. It’s the difference between being “entropic” and “creative”. All of nature is entropic. The human spirit is creative. And therein lies the fallacy of Atheism being moral or “having” it’s own morality. With no intrinsic belief in the inborn knowledge of “right and wrong” (free will), “morality” has no base upon which to sit. And while it is true that it is solely up to the individual to decide what to believe, your continuing with it just means you dont see any reason or evidence to believe is proof only that you haven’t seen enough of the world.
And while all views being equal in the public sphere may give one a warm feeling down ones leg, it is at best myopic and at worst naive. And here is nothing “equal” in the real world (except true opposites), only in our minds. And only the immature and insane “live” only in the mind.
E.M.Smith says: December 6, 2010 at 8:22 pm
I love reading Monckton, for each time there are a half dozen new words and I learn one of them 😉
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But he does have a handle on things. Though I think the Global Socialists are discovering that the USA is a harder nut to crack.
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The U.S. is out last hope for a return to sanity. The EU is fatally F*****d by the unelected commissars.
Sadly, the one thing that will, inevitably, end the farce is what Iron Maggy said. Eventually they run out of other people’s money to spend. And we’ve just hit that wall. Even the Chinese have caught on. So try as they might to get more money to spend, it just isn’t there.
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Yup. Iron Maggie was right on the button over that – as well as the folly of establishing the Euro. This has lead to the present financial crisis there which prevents the PIGS from devaluing their currencies needed to rebalance their economies.
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And –Christopher Monckton, as sharp as a tack, attacks all these things. Pity is, not enough people listen to him.
Douglas
Time for arms.
‘Atheism is not an ideology, there is absolutely nothing we are expected to believe on faith… It is absolutely an ideology and you proved it by stating one of it’s tenants – you are expected (required) to NOT believe anything by faith. And, if ever there was or is a “subject” that absolutely requires faith, it’s science!’
Science advances by testing hypotheses and formulating theories of the accumulated evidence; and by the occasional aradigm shift. This isn’t really the same thing as faith, because it involves objective analysis of reality, (assuming you’re not a post modernist who doesn’t believe in objective reality) because the criterion for whether a scientist’s hypothesis (or faith if you want to put it like that) is valid, or not, is whether objective repeatable measurements confirm it or not. Belief itself doesn’t automatically confer truth to an idea, at best it begins with an idea of what might be true. Religion is all about faith, usually in spite of conflicting evidence or internal inconsistency of its texts. Furthermore, Atheism doesn’t have tenets; the reason we reject faith is because science informs us that anecdotes are the most notoriously unreliable form of evidence. We reject faith because of reason and not because we are expected to. As far as ethics go, many atheists, myself included, are humanists, so we do have concepts of morality; in as much as we all do because it is innate, culturally reinforced, and observable in many other social animals; it was an advantage for our species to evolve a strong, though not perfect, capacity for altruism and empathy which doesn’t require a god, and doesn’t vanish upon a sudden outbreak of disbelief in the supernatural; Consciousness (and as a result, free will) are being increasingly informed by evolutionary biology, in other words by investigating human nature to the best evidentiary degree, not sheer belief. Free will, in the conventional sense of the term, is arguably an illusion but i wont get into that now, check out Dan Dennett on the subject if you’re interested.
‘And while all views being equal in the public sphere may give one a warm feeling down ones leg, it is at best myopic and at worst naive. And here is nothing “equal” in the real world (except true opposites), only in our minds. And only the immature and insane “live” only in the mind’ – by this i meant the adherents of all opinions should be treated equally in a free society, not that all ideas are equally valid, i quite agree that thats not the case.
‘And while it is true that it is solely up to the individual to decide what to believe, your continuing with it just means you dont see any reason or evidence to believe is proof only that you haven’t seen enough of the world.’ – no i just haven’t seen enough of God to believe in its existence beyond natural laws; or that an all powerful being could create such a wasteful, though wonderful, universe with so few planets capable of supporting life, with so many inhospitable parts of this one; and with 99% of life forms allowed to go extinct on it. So much for intelligent design.
In any case i’m now violating my own argument by not talking climate, so i’ll leave it here.
ChrisC1983 ~
I’m truly sorry (for you) that you feel that way. I really do. You truly haven’t lived, Dear.
There’s a saying ~ ‘Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.’ ~ If I apply that to your words, life – has indeed been a bitter pill for you, indeed. For that – I’m sorry.
For me, on the other hand, my life was totally bankrupt when it was (ignorantly, may I add) devoid of GOD and I didn’t truly begin ‘living’ till my 32nd year. So, all is not lost yet, Chris. I wish I could sit you down, make some great soup for you, and share a bit about my TRUE life experiences – but, that aside – just know that you’ve got REAL Christians on this site that will remember you in their highly intelligent (meaning their submission to our ‘Higher Power’ – ie: Jesus the Christ) prayers and perhaps life will indeed change for you. At least, that’s my prayer, Chris.
Life and the Truth is literally all around you, Chris. Even in the taking of your next breath, you must have faith, right? But, no one (here) wants to force you to open your eyes and ‘see for yourself’. That’s YOUR choice, kiddo. Here’s praying you find that Truth for yourself. It’s the ONLY way it can be done. No one really ‘actively’ goes out looking for God without prodding. He seeks US out. My prayer is that your time for that understanding comes soon.
Lastly, I suggest you research truly GREAT MEN OF SCIENCE and you’ll find that the ‘best and the brightest’ have come into a union with their Creator to really and truly realize life at it’s fullest.
God bless you, Chris.
Cynthia Lauren Thorpe
Hey, Milwaukee Bob – Brilliant & intuitive comments to Chris, my friend. Well done.
But, I’m gonna have to say that while I don’t adhere to Chris Matthews ‘warm whatever up his leg’ for our usurper-in-chief ~ don’t knock Holy Spirit waves that (for me) begin around my heart and radiate outwards. They’re frankly – The Best.
Jus’ saying, Bob… don’t knock em’ till you’ve tried em’.
C.L. Thorpe
Cynthia, i can’t work out if you’re either being incredibly sarcastic or very sincere with your last post. I’m willing to assume the latter, but let me reassure i don’t have so much, a god-shaped-hole, but a freedom shaped expanse in my life. Its not a bitter nihilistic pill for me in any way, shape or form, nor is it for many other atheists, and i’m truly sorry to hear your experiences were otherwise. On the other hand, if i hadn’t already eaten, the soup might have gone down well :-).
Great religious scientists like newton contributed understanding which would have been amazing, regardless of whether he was religious or not, and which transcended their religious views anyway so i’m afraid that’s an association that doesnt really prove anything.
But life and truth is all around, i agree to a point on that, it’s just a question of how much truth we’re capable of discerning and where you expect meaning in life to come from; but not believing in an external purpose from god makes it more empowering, for me atleast, to create my own purpose in life, with as much meaning and joy that anyone would wish for. As for the promise of prayers, i dont expect them to do anything, but i appreciate the sentiment all the same, but humanism is a positive outlook: create your own meaning in life, you’re a captain of your own ship, its very liberating. My eyes, and mind, are very much open, and its a little patronising to be told i’m missing out on something that begs more questions than it answers, but i’m not bleak about my life and nor should you think me to be. God may be love to you but some of us manage remarkably well experiencing the latter without the former,
all the same i wish you well, but beauty and truth are not exclusively religious notions.
This is steadily turning into a daytime chat show 🙂
Spreading the G-word together with some well known preachy phrases randomly over an otherwise excellent discussion induces a feeling of an appeal to authority which is somewhat disturbing. Since the real arguments are well done and don’t need something like that it leaves the impression that preaching is the main intent of the whole conversation.
@ChrisC1983 says:
December 7, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Hear, hear!
…I’m ‘preachy’? Nope. I’m a realist and (thanks, Chris) I am sincere.
Now. Insofar as you attempt to ‘put me in wacko-zealot-sized box of atheistic choosing ~ (one wonders if I’d be allowed to expell CO2 in that box…or, sadly – if you’d grant me any ‘holes’ at all…(God-shaped, or not) (ps…that was my form of ‘mild sarcasm’) but, lest I ‘digress’ and run the risk of enjoying daytime drama… (since my I.Q. was gauged at over 132 in high school…but, what do ‘they’ know, right…? ((The social engineering that occurred in the 70’s was pretty mild to that of today, anyhow))
Do you guys, my fellow lovers of Truth, remember a month or so ago when a volcano erupted and sent ash into the air that was gonna travel (eventually) to Australia and it was promised that sunsets would be stunning due to the amount of sulfur(? I ‘think’ I read that) in the air?
Well, I happen to enjoy sunsets, perhaps you do, too. But, sadly – YEARS ago, as I was watching a particularly spectacular one (over the Great Salt Lake) some little kids came up to me and they had scowls on their little pusses. When I inquired as to ‘why’,
they grimaced and pointed to ‘my’ sunset and said it was just ‘POLLUTION’ and not nice at all. Guys. Now, I know you’re fed on ‘Facebook, Opra, Twitter, et al…’ but, keep with me here… (we used to enjoy debate, right? It used to inspire once not so long ago) In fact, one’s ability to keep ‘on track’ with a few digressions thrown in – used to be a hallmark of fortitude, but ~ heck. I’ve got nothing to prove to you and I was ONLY commenting on my ‘OBSERVATIONS’ which……I daresay…….IS SCIENCE, STILL.
Regardless……… While you may envision me snacking on chips watching Geraldo with my little foil hat on my head ~ I assure you that’s not the case. About a month ago, I stood outside the front door and began walking toward that most incredible sunset
that I was promised by folks ON THIS VERY SITE, may I add… And, while I stood
and marveled at Creation, I prayed for those kids…wherever in the world they now may be – and I took a few photos. (Though, the camera lens could not adequately express what my eyes saw, as is often the case… here’s one of them… ‘exclusively for you (die hard, indeed) Atheists’ some of whom have infiltrated (because we’ve been lax and allowed your cynicism to go unchallenged) and taught our children and our grandchildren to look for sex and sadness only, even at a tender age of 4… to actually LEAD THEM to uncover the vilest of truths, rather than holy ones, to…….to… to truly indoctrinate them to LOOK towards Hell, in the futile hope, perhaps… that you won’t be so alone when you get there.
Well, no. I’m no ‘Opra’ and I didn’t do the naked Opera House gathering in Sydney ~
(to my credit, actually) but, I AM a ‘scientist who has been around the proverbial block a time or two’ and all I wanted to do was to erect a sign…post a little ‘time out’ sign on Watts Up because I happen to revere the men and women to get their news
on this site… I was ‘this close’ to that entrance, gentlemen. ‘THIS close’. And, for the last 20 years of my lifetime I’ve just wanted to slow the seemingly breakneck speed with which you are leading others younger than you into an abyss….THE Abyss, in fact. Yeah. Here’s my scholarly photo ~ I thought of it as beautiful. But, I acknowledge one must have ‘eyes to see’ that beauty. That saddens me for all of you who believe the lies you’ve been fed. Yeah, you read sincerity. Well, Chris and ‘others’ you’ve got my tears flowing. Not ‘for myself’ but for those kids and frankly – for you. And, just F.Y.I – I type at 90 WPM so I flow ‘typing-wise’ pretty well – till times like this. An’ now I can’t figure out how to ‘paste’ the damned photo here…sh**.
Hey Chris? Could you tell me how to ‘cut an’ paste’ a great ‘scientific’ photo for you to see? I know it’s ‘a bit’ anti-climatic…hahaha…but, I’m serious. I can’t figure it out.
Thanks.
C.L. Thorpe
[Reply: One method: right click on the photo. Click on “open image in new window.” Copy image address of the new window and paste it into Comments box. Or just paste the image address. ~dbs, mod.]
Ahrvid Engholm says:
December 7, 2010 at 4:54 am
“I agree with everything Lord Monckton says, *except* for all that EU bashing. The EU is no more a “dictatorship” than all our different national governments.”
In the EU laws are made by the Commission. Which Commissionaire did you vote for? (Hint: You can not vote in or out the lawmakers in the EU – it is not a democracy.) I can not speak for your nation Ahrvid but where I come from the lawmakers can be kicked out if the people don’t like the laws they make.
ChrisC1983 – relax. You may have given up on God but She hasn’t given up on you. So everybody’s happy.
The factors that resulted in the 20th century global temperature run-up have been discovered.
The contribution of atmospheric carbon dioxide is between small and insignificant. The time-integral of sunspot numbers and effective sea surface temperature are the main contributors.
A simple equation, with inputs of accepted measurements from government agencies, calculates the average global temperatures since 1895 with 88% accuracy (87.6% if CO2 is assumed to have no influence). See the equation, links to the source data, an eye-opening graph of the results and how they are derived in the pdfs at http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&linkbox=true (see especially the pdfs made public on 4/10/10 and 6/27/10).
The future average global temperature trend that this equation calculates is down.
Thank you Lord Christopher for being a beacon of light in this gigantic hoax on mankind, as someone in this forum has said , you have been there all the way, relentless in applying fact over fiction, unwavering in the face of detractors acting like school yard bullies and have fortunately awakened many fence sitters possibly some of whom were unaware of the implications of this attempted wealth transfer.
Only slightly off the subject, Mark Twain published comments about consensus groups of scientists, which applies to the IPCC so well that Twain must have known that they would exist . In his writing EUROPE AND ELSEWHERE he discussed “…. a paralyzing Consensus of Oppinion accumulated from Experts a-setting around, about brother Experts who had patiently and laboriously cold-chiseled their way into one or another of nature’s safe-deposit vaults and were reporting that they had found something valuable was a-plenty for me. It settled it. ” Well worth reading.
[Reply: One method: right click on the photo. Click on “open image in new window.” Copy image address of the new window and paste it into Comments box. Or just paste the image address. ~dbs, mod.]
Dear DBS ~ I really appreciate your assistance, here. ~ I’ve had to do farm work and now I’m back trying to send you and Anthony (I’ll send you ALL of the ‘sulfuric sunset’ photos, if you’d like, because I CAN email them) the photos I took here in Australia after that last volcano erupted to our east… They’re beautiful and (to me) quite strange – I’ve tried what you suggested though – and this Aussie computer isn’t allowing me to do as you said. Therefore, PLEASE don’t post this – you’ve got my email address – so, just send me some ‘innocuous address’ that I can send the photos to by ‘normal attachment’ and then if you guys like them ~ post the one on Monckton’s Mexican Missives for ChrisB1983 exclusively from me, okay?
It’ll kinda be like my Christmas present to him, and if you like ’em – use them any in whatever manner you’d like. It was you guys who ‘alerted me’ to the possibility that the sunsets were gonna be glorious anyhow……. it’s only right that you could enjoy them as you wished.
God bless you all in your ‘climate’ service to our globe.
Cynthia Lauren (jus’ Cindy – to you guys) Thorpe