From the YouTube description: Lord Christopher Monckton, renowned science and policy expert, presents CFACT’s Kook of the Week. This gentleman was found at the UN Conference on Climate Change in Cancun, Mexico.
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St Andrews is miles away from Glasgow in Scottish terms.
I am not an AGW proponent. I think Monckton is extremely smart, an excellent speaker and generally correct, but he wants to play the clown and the Lord too much. In my view, he is a liability as are all other obviously extreme right wing elements like Heartland.
Jose Suro says:
December 7, 2010 at 6:15 am
“So utterly disgusting and pathetic. A perfect example of the thought processes of one of the kings of the “do as I say, not as I do” silver spoon liberal crowd……. Mr. Turner has five children…….”
So does Canadian super-hypocrite planet-saver David Suzuki. He was once interviewed about that and he explained that that was OK because all his children were environmentalists.
In the meantime, this zealot has a Gore-like carbon footprint, which I have never heard him try to explain away… but I’m sure we can all imagine the ‘for the children’ answer he would come up with.
Hypocrisy does seem to be one of the common characteristics of the leaders of the AGW crowd and all the useful idiots who jet around to these conferences.
Eric Smith says: December 7, 2010 at 5:15 am
Douglas
I would be more than happy for Lord Monckton to come to Glasgow and I would have his upper class gibblets on a plate at any level. The Guardian has used his photograph to ridicule AGW scepticism on numerous occasions. The photograph is enough. I also suspect that Exxon gave money to Heartland for the exact same reason. Ridicule of right wing extremist opposition to the carbon trading scam.
REPLY: Congratulations on stating that you denounce people solely on the basis of their looks in a photograph. – Anthony
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Eric Smith: Your reply confirmed my suspicions regarding your first comment i.e. that you would have neither the skills nor the ability to achieve your goals. Lord Monckton, I suspect, should he bother to engage with you would eviscerate your pathetic attempt before you knew what had happened.
Anthony. You hit the nail on the head re the photograph. It was what I thought he was alluding to in the first place before he was stupid enough to be more specific.
Douglas
Anoneumouse says: December 7, 2010 at 1:06 am
The Kooks name is Sandy Gauntlett he is an environmental activist of Maori descent. He lectures in indigenous resource management at the indigenous university of Te Wananga O Aotearoa in New Zealand. He also chairs the Pacific Indigenous Peoples Environment Coalition and the Pacific Regional Focal Point for the Global Forest Coalition.
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Thanks Anoneumouse for clearing that up. It’ all I needed to know! Though I would guess that he has about as much Maori blood in his veins as I do – he has the bearing of a real poser – It explains his mangled accent also -plainly contrived – probably wears one of those oversized Maori carvings under that jacket too– What a W—ker.
Douglas
Jimmy Haigh says:
December 7, 2010 at 6:48 am
Barry Woods says:
December 7, 2010 at 5:40 am
I was actually just having a look at RC – I drop in every week or so to see what is happening – and left a comment: “You guys really are a bunch of nutters”. Childish? perhaps. But it was the natural reaction to what I was reading…
Actually, I am a regular reader of the lady in questions website – Jo Abbess…
she is infamous in the UK – google jo abbess roger harrabin bbc
And I was reading the article real time at RC that long ago, and I nearly fell of my chair laughing…
she is of the same breed of people.. ( Campiagn Against Climate Change )
that targets sceptical websites and has Deniars Halls of Shame.
Hall of Shame: http://www.campaigncc.org/hallofshame
Skeptic Alerts: http://www.campaigncc.org/node/384
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/4/19/skeptic-alerts.html
And most recently they have targeted the blog of the author of:
‘The Hockey Stick Illusion’ A W Montford
http://www.realclimategate.org/2010/11/bishop-hill-targeted-sceptic-alerts/
this book you may notice is advertised at the top of Watts Up.
Check out the same commentors Osama Bin Laden moment at her website.
http://www.joabbess.com/tag/islam/
Please note how much the rabidly pro AGW Guardian loves to ridicule Monckton. These are new articles within the last hour.
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Cancún climate change summit: ‘No global warming since 2001’A heated debate on climate change between the Guardian’s environment editor John Vidal and Lord Christopher Monckton
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/audio/2010/dec/07/cancun-climate-change-summit-monckton
Monckton crashes Cancún business lunchLord Christopher Monckton is asked to leave corporate lunch party after airing his sceptical views on climate change
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/dec/07/cancun-monckton-crashes-business-lunch
Eric Smith says: December 7, 2010 at 5:15 am
Douglas
I would be more than happy for Lord Monckton to come to Glasgow and I would have his upper class gibblets on a plate at any level. The Guardian has used his photograph to ridicule AGW scepticism on numerous occasions. The photograph is enough. I also suspect that Exxon gave money to Heartland for the exact same reason. Ridicule of right wing extremist opposition to the carbon trading scam.
REPLY: Congratulations on stating that you denounce people solely on the basis of their looks in a photograph. – Anthony
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Eric Smith: Your reply confirmed my suspicions regarding your first comment i.e. that you would have neither the skills nor the ability to achieve your goals. Lord Monckton, I suspect, should he bother to engage with you would eviscerate your pathetic attempt before you knew what had happened.
Anthony. You hit the nail on the head re the photograph. It was what I thought he was alluding to in the first place before he was stupid enough to be more specific.
Douglas
Anoneumouse says: December 7, 2010 at 1:06 am
The Kooks name is Sandy Gauntlett he is an environmental activist of Maori descent. He lectures in indigenous resource management at the indigenous university of Te Wananga O Aotearoa in New Zealand. He also chairs the Pacific Indigenous Peoples Environment Coalition and the Pacific Regional Focal Point for the Global Forest Coalition.
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Sort of answers the rejoinder that “He is an isolated case” and “can be ignored” or “is not worth listening to (or repeating”.
As an “official” highly paid!! government activist, teacher, lecturer and coalition leader, he IS the both most dangerous and best representative enviro. But he could not get by in the private sector. Take away his tax paid wages, subsidized expense account and travel budget, his publicly-paid rostrums and publicly paid press secretaries and supplies and offices and power and lights and heat and HVAC and office space and his publicly-publicized TV and press appearances, and he would be nothing but what he really is.
Nothing.
Anthony
There is no way to deduce ” Congratulations on stating that you denounce people solely on the basis of their looks in a photograph.” from what I said. This is the kind of photograph I’m referring to. It is the Guardian ridiculing him, not me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/sep/21/climate-scientists-christopher-monckton
If a member of the British aristocracy wanted to make himself look utterly ridiculous, they could not have bettered that photograph. Part Eton, part Oxford, part clown and part Zulu (film). In addition, his extreme right wing politics puts him well outside the British mainstream.
Throw us out….please.
I agree with the commenters that the NGO which this fellow represents ought to be identified. It was kind of you to obscure his name, but the organization deserves no such courtesy.
Eric Smith says:
[Lord Monckton’s] “extreme right wing politics puts him well outside the British mainstream.”
Eric, the entire blame for Britain’s national self-destruction must be laid directly at the feet of the ‘mainstream’ Left [‘mainstream’ as defined by the state-controlled media], which has deliberately wrecked the formerly great UK. From Samizdata [2007]:
You can’t be so foolish as to believe that the average UK citizen agrees with or wants these restrictions. Just as you can’t be so foolish as to believe that Lord Monckton wasn’t just having some fun in that picture.
But when that’s the best argument you’ve got, I guess that’s what you have to use.
This is what I wrote in the comments section. The debate is worth listening to.
Monckton is so vastly more capable than Vidal (Guardian), the debate is ridiculous.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/dec/07/cancun-monckton-crashes-business-lunch
Eric Smith says:
December 7, 2010 at 10:21 am
If a member of the British aristocracy wanted to make himself look utterly ridiculous, they could not have bettered that photograph. Part Eton, part Oxford, part clown and part Zulu (film). In addition, his extreme right wing politics puts him well outside the British mainstream.
The point is, Eric, that whatever one looks like, or whatever their politics are (and labeling his as “extreme right wing” seems way OTT), is completely immaterial, and their use is just an ad hominem tactic, used by those who can not argue with what he says. So no, I don’t agree that he’s a “liability”. Far from it, in fact.
Smokey
Are you referring to the Blair government that was 100% controlled by Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News ? That left wing government ?
The Samizdata article is almost totally false.
Eric Smith says:
“The Samizdata article is almost totally false.”
So we’re into proving negatives, are we? Are you familiar with the laws in every locale? Seeing what has become of the formerly Great Britain, I will go with Samizdata’s statement.
And you may not know it, but the most far right government in the UK is well to the left of the U.S. Democrat Party. And regarding Fox news, they also are only less leftist than the rest, which makes them appear to be conservative – which they are not.
Bruce Cobb
Once again. Calling carbon trading based climate conferences a UN push for a Marxist one world government is not rational. Carbon trading was created by Enron the corporate death star, and is supported by every corporation on earth. Its main promoters are the world’s biggest oil companies and banks. It literally couldn’t be any more capitalist.
Monckton is fantastic with the science. I understand it. Almost no one else does.
Smokey
Fox News is left wing. Fine.
Bruce Cobb says:
December 7, 2010 at 10:48 am
Eric Smith says:
“The point is, Eric, that whatever one looks like… is completely immaterial…”
I certainly do agree in principle but I still have a problem with the credibility of people dressed up as polar bears. No offence to polar bears of course.
Eric Smith says:
December 7, 2010 at 10:47 am
“Monckton is so vastly more capable than Vidal (Guardian), the debate is ridiculous.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/dec/07/cancun-monckton-crashes-business-lunch ”
Thanks for that link Eric. The ironic thing, given all this talk about superficial appearances, is that Vidal looks a lot like Monckton.
Curious to see if anyone dares respond to the comment from the former carbon trader.
About Sandy Gauntlett:
http://climatechangemedia.ning.com/profile/MurraySandyGauntlett
http://www.globalforestcoalition.org/
It’s OK, I don’t this this one’s a breeder.
“Fox News is left wing. Fine.”
Eric, George Orwell would have a ball with you. I responded that Fox news appears to be conservative, given the competition.
The fact that Fox is eating its competitors’ lunch indicates that it is much closer to what people want than the rest – especially the UK government’s official propaganda organ, the BBC, which seems to be pushing green totalitarianism as the solution to everything.
And now that the old Soviets have admitted how simple and easy it was for their agents to infiltrate the Guardian from top to bottom, their BBC toadies no doubt ran and held the door open for the FSB. Really, can there be any doubt?
Grumpy old Man says:
December 7, 2010 at 1:38 am
“Off Topic Britain just hammered Aussie in the cricket,…why can’t they both loose?”
Not a clever comment considering what happened to the Kiwis in India, and your Rugby team continues to peak between world cups.
Hmmmm,
Probably an Aussie Umpire, and with a Kiwi running your national team,…tee-hee-hee, you still rate your chances at the World Cup?
It was England not Britain who gave the Aussies a comprehensive thrashing in the recent test match. Hope you don’t mind us gloating but we don’t win in Oz very often.
If this guy really believed in “saving the planet” he should do the honourable thing and try and get a nomination for a “Darwin Award”.
Unfortunately he strikes me as too stupid even for that.