From the YouTube description: Lord Christopher Monckton, renowned science and policy expert, presents CFACT’s Kook of the Week. This gentleman was found at the UN Conference on Climate Change in Cancun, Mexico.
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Jessie says:
December 7, 2010 at 5:01 am
since Ms Goodall clearly isn’t a chimpanzee, we can assume that the chimpanzees voted her to act on their behalf. (a greeting from chimpanzees in Africa)
Douglas
I would be more than happy for Lord Monckton to come to Glasgow and I would have his upper class gibblets on a plate at any level. We have already crossed swords by email when I called him a dodgy b* for going to America and pretending to be even madder than he is (think Glenn Beck) to make money.
The Guardian has used his photograph to ridicule AGW scepticism on numerous occasions. The photograph is enough. I also suspect that Exxon gave money to Heartland for the exact same reason. Ridicule of right wing extremist opposition to the carbon trading scam.
REPLY: Congratulations on stating that you denounce people solely on the basis of their looks in a photograph. – Anthony
P Wilson
Thank you so much for the David Hume quotation. I’ve been struggling with the idea that environmentalism is a State Religion. Clearly many of the superstitious activities pursued in its support seem similar to those employed among the religious, and certainly many of the tenets of environmentalism are accepted on faith including some whose bases may even be subject to scientific “proofs” but such “proofs” being beyond the comprehension of the supplicants.
I think the trick, here, will be to be able to show that environmentalism is driven by politics rather than the other way around. Ben Pile and Stuart Blackman at “Climate Resistance” have pursued this line of thought very effectively.
Embarrassing as it was for we Kiwis, Sandy has been quoted as saying something sensible once:
I’ll finish for now with another quote from Sandy Gauntlet of the Pacific People’s Environment Coalition.
“Not only does the carbon trading mechanism not work, it makes the greedy north feel like they have done something meaningful while we keep drowning. Using the market to solve a problem the market created seems little short of insanity.”
http://ko-kr.connect.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=142565559104698&topic=347
Admittedly not a great deal of balance in that quote but I think we can agree that the carbon trading mechanism is a stupid idea. However, it was interesting to read that we [NZ?] keep drowning. Do the Kiwi WUWT readers who are currently resident there realise that their toes are getting wet?
Eric Smith says:
December 7, 2010 at 5:08 am
First link not working, please redo
This may be of interest to you also
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/no_fossil_fool.html
My all time favourite kooky comment
RealClimate and a Campaign against Climate Change Activits with her own blog..
http://www.realclimate.org/?comments_popup=3690#comment-169598
“5.I would like to propose that we form a “Phil Jones Devotional Circle”, and put a nice logo on our personal and organisational websites, linking through to a page here at RealClimate (or elsewhere) that extols the virtues of said Phil Jones, and catalogues his many great achievements. ”
anyone have any thought on that logo – Josh?
Jessie
Sorry, they have redesigned the site
IETA members
http://www.ieta.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=19%3Adefault&id=168%3Aour-members&Itemid=82
“e. cowan says:
December 6, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Climate change and population control can make for a politically explosive mix, as media mogul Ted Turner demonstrated Sunday when he urged world leaders to institute a global one-child policy to save the Earth’s environment………………….”
So utterly disgusting and pathetic. A perfect example of the thought processes of one of the kings of the “do as I say, not as I do” silver spoon liberal crowd……. Mr. Turner has five children…….
The climate movement is rife with kooks, quacks, catastrophists, and con artists. Indeed, for True Believers, rationality is more of a liability than an asset, and they seem to celebrate kookiness. In a very real sense, mankind itself has gone “climate crazy”, in a mass hysteria or delusion similar to the Salem Witch hysteria, except on a world-wide scale. It is but one element of what is proving to be its demise. Continually shining the spotlight of truth on them, as Lord Monckton and others do certainly helps quicken their downfall.
Barry Woods says:
December 7, 2010 at 5:40 am
I was actually just having a look at RC – I drop in every week or so to see what is happening – and left a comment: “You guys really are a bunch of nutters”. Childish? perhaps. But it was the natural reaction to what I was reading…
With an attitude like that you should be forwarding the name and video to the TSA so he can’t gain entry to the USA
Larry, Moe, and Curly say, “Cancun spelled backwards is nuc nac.”
@j.pickens says:
December 6, 2010 at 6:28 pm
[snip] This guy is perfectly representative of the meeting.
Yes, that’s the dirty trick. Let’s find the most radical and indefensible position and paint everyone at the conference with it. You just wait until it’s done to something you like and see how you feel about it then. WUWT has done a really nice job at avoiding this trap, and, I’m just saying that dirty tricks like this are unnecessary when the actual leadership of the conference gives you about the same degree of nonsense. If you were going to identify the NGO this fellow belongs to and see how his privately stated positions explain this NGO’s public positions, then it would be fair game. Without that, it’s just an unfair attack on everyone else. In summary, I don’t like cheap shots, and, it’s tough to win an argument in the long run when you start doing this sort of thing. Is there some shortage of material to show the AGW position is nonsense?
I think you will find one at every conference of any size, I typical sign is that they snub anyone who uses evidence as reality freaks who can’t handle fantasy and conspiracy. It’s only really a problem when they get into positions of power such as in the case of Senator McCarthy.
David L says:
December 7, 2010 at 5:12 am
In the background there’s a booth with a banner “GENDERCC Women for Climate Justice”. What the heck is that?
The best banner I ever saw was “Lesbians Against Bush”. I’ll try and find it and post it.
Much better would be a video of the Copenhagen delegates applauding Chavez (after he went way beyond his speaking time) and Mugabe. close-ups of their shining faces would be a cherry on top. Why hasn’t this been done already? (I’ve missed it, if it has.)
Hear, hear!
Thank you Eric Smith,
Also on Moncktons Mexican story there was a link to
1. Russia and carbon trading (PNG I recal) and
2. Carbon War Room (Branson Virgin) that may be of interest to you.
Yes true P Wilson, she clearly is not a chimpanzee, though your assumption of voting rights is not one I would have thought about. Prominantly having a book on screen titled ‘rape’ (if I am reading clearly) as she discusses global warming and chimpanzees is an unusual juxtaposition. HIV (in humans) and I assume predominantly women and children in Tanzania, is an issue which requires speaking out upon, by persons of Jane Goodall’ eminence and linguistic skill.
Your post on Hume and latter comment from j ferguson is informative, thank you.
Kevin Andrews MP has just published 4 articles on the politics and the Greens that may be of interest.
try google : – The Greens Agenda: Part 1 – Western culture and the Greens
“The Guardian has used [Monckton’s] photograph to ridicule AGW scepticism on numerous occasions. The photograph is enough.”
So, Monckton’s exotropic strabismus defines the man inside. I hate to think what your kindergarden mates would do to Stephen Hawking.
Eric Smith:
You assert:
“I would be more than happy for Lord Monckton to come to Glasgow and I would have his upper class gibblets on a plate at any level”.
Really? But St Andrews is not far from Glasgow and you did not take this opportunity to fulfil your boast
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200792/posts
One person travelled up from Newcastle to attend as a member of the debate’s audiance but you did not travel from Glasgow. If you had then I have no doubt you would have been trounced along with the other AGW proponents.
Richard
FDN, I am extremely puzzled by your reference to ‘dirty tricks’. Filming a conference delegate/groupie/nutter voicing his hatred for the USA in a totally neutral, calm voice shows up one whacko for what he is, an idiot’s idiot, for believing the load of nonsense that he enunciates. But he must have got the ‘information’ from somewhere or someone he regards as an ‘authority’ Who or what on earth could that be? Oh yeah, right, he’s at the conference for disseminating the stuff, like ‘big oil’ pays all of us handsomely and if you look hard enough, you will find the anti-Warmists are incredibly well organised, prolly by the CIA or the SIS who are spying on us from those funny plastic domes on that airfield in the South Island.
The real squirm-making fact is that he’s a fellow Kiwi and really should know better.
Our state school system has a lot to answer for!
For those of you saying things like ‘there’s one at every conference,” you should realize there’s not one, or ten, but DOZENS of people at the Climate Conference at least as nutty as the guy in the video.
Even the folks who aren’t as blatantly crazy are living in a weird dream world, where standing next to the head of a delegation in a serving line counts as “a close contact in their Embassy,” where “they were very receptive to our message.”
It’s about time these AGW people moved their meetings to a more tropical setting. I was starting to feel sorry for these people. Every time they held a conference it snowed or the temperature was breaking all time lows.
I remember the last time I was in Cancun. It was hot, and the sun was high. I wonder if there is any correlation. 🙂
JDN says:
December 7, 2010 at 6:58 am
JDN,
I have to disagree with your comment, they were asking for petitioners to sign a document supporting exactly what this guy was going on about. If the guy wants to expand (obviously he did) on his view of what the petitions agenda was while the camera was rolling then he is ‘fair game’, hidden identity aside.
I think what is being missed by some is that there were many people that signed the petition, apparently not all commented or shared their personal view while doing so, as this man did. If they had, perhaps we would have had a 3-way, or 10-way tie for ‘Kook of the week’.
The point being: his view could well be (and probably is) indicative of the general “consensus” at the conference. I seriously doubt, given the turn-out, that his was “…the most radical and indefensible position…”
Jimmy Haigh says:
December 7, 2010 at 7:06 am
“The best banner I ever saw was “Lesbians Against Bush”.”
That certainly has plenty of comedic double entendre potential in the context of a beach resort like Cancun… where bikini waxes are prominent.