Friday Funny: "Pay up, Suckas"

From the “I have first dibs on Uranus” department:

From Yahoo News/AFP: Spanish woman claims ownership of the Sun

MADRID (AFP) – After billions of years the Sun finally has an owner — a woman from Spain’s soggy region of Galicia said Friday she had registered the star at a local notary public as being her property.

Angeles Duran, 49, told the online edition of daily El Mundo she took the step in September after reading about an American man who had registered himself as the owner of the moon and most planets in our Solar System.

There is an international agreement which states that no country may claim ownership of a planet or star, but it says nothing about individuals, she added.

“There was no snag, I backed my claim legally, I am not stupid, I know the law. I did it but anyone else could have done it, it simply occurred to me first.”

The document issued by the notary public declares Duran to be the “owner of the Sun, a star of spectral type G2, located in the centre of the solar system, located at an average distance from Earth of about 149,600,000 kilometres”.

Duran, who lives in the town of Salvaterra do Mino, said she now wants to slap a fee on everyone who uses the sun and give half of the proceeds to the Spanish government and 20 percent to the nation’s pension fund.

She would dedicate another 10 percent to research, another 10 percent to ending world hunger — and would keep the remaining 10 percent herself.

“It is time to start doing things the right way, if there is an idea for how to generate income and improve the economy and people’s well-being, why not do it?” she asked.

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h/t to WUWT reader johnb

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WestHoustonGeo
November 26, 2010 4:54 pm

Odd, I don’t seem to remember this Lady purchasing a parking permit for her “Sun” in MY GALAXY. Oh, there will be a Humdinger of a Lawsuit, you betcha!

Curiousgeorge
November 26, 2010 4:57 pm

Hmmm. I wonder if I could sell her some Nova insurance?

AC1
November 26, 2010 4:59 pm

I wonder can we find a group of people with melanomas to start suing her?

grzejnik
November 26, 2010 4:59 pm

Thats pretty funny!!!

jorgekafkazar
November 26, 2010 5:01 pm

“It is time to start doing things the right way, if there is an idea for how to generate income and improve the economy and people’s well-being, why not do it?” she asked.
Because, like all get-rich-quick schemes, whether private or (more likely) governmental, no wealth is being created. It’s nothing but a form of theft. Duh.

K
November 26, 2010 5:12 pm

What a bright idea!

Tim
November 26, 2010 5:15 pm

She would need a lot of carbon offset credits.

November 26, 2010 5:19 pm

She said: “I am not stupid.”
I beg to differ.
Unless she is using this to make money of cap and trade, in which case … maybe I should say I own the sun. And then when cap-and-trade forces companies to use solar panels, I’ll charge a usage fee. Hmm … not a bad idea.

H.R.
November 26, 2010 5:19 pm

If the apples from the neighbor’s tree fall on your property, they’re yours. As for the sunshine that falls on my property? Tough toenails. The sun is hers and the sunshine is mine. She should have parked the sun somewhere so that she was the only beneficiary.

AnonyMoose
November 26, 2010 5:21 pm

The Sun is there first, claiming a newspapert doesn’t have to pay to use The Sun.

November 26, 2010 5:22 pm

“…she now wants to slap a fee on everyone who uses the sun…”
Collection agency = Browner, Gore, and Mann, LLC. Come and get it.
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

AdderW
November 26, 2010 5:24 pm

…and how certain are we that there are no one else out there, on another planet, in “our” galaxy, that has already claimed “our” sun as theirs ? maybe “they” filed their claim on Alpha Centauri…

November 26, 2010 5:25 pm

Love the sign in the photo/graphic.
BR-549 was the “number to call” used by Junior Samples on the popular tv show “Hee Haw.”
BR-549 was reportedly also a V-8 engine designation that represented International Harvester Broad Ringed, 549 cubic inches displacement. http://www.killcreek.com/mateys/br549ih.html no representation that the information in the link is accurate.

a jones
November 26, 2010 5:26 pm

Surely the question is if nobody wants to play her game will she take her big shiny ball home with her?
Kindest Regards.

Jimbo
November 26, 2010 5:28 pm

I’m sending Angeles some money right now. /sarc off
Now if “There is an international agreement which states that no country may claim ownership of a planet or star, …” then in my mind that includes a country’s citizens. These loophole seekers are sad. OK then, I will register ownership of the universe tomorrow morning which means I own the lot. :o)

Skeptic Tank
November 26, 2010 5:29 pm

AH HAH!!
Now, we really have somebody to blame for global warming. “Move that hot ball of fire a little further away, or we’ll sue.”

ZT
November 26, 2010 5:29 pm

I’m sure that the Spanish government have a variety of laws, taxes, and tariffs for the proud owners of space bound fusion reactors.

Chris B
November 26, 2010 5:32 pm

I want her to desist from having her sun shine so brightly on the open Arctic water in summer so as to release it from the death spiral. I’m sure all the male sun owners in the Universe behave responsibly. Why shouldn’t she have to do the same. Sheesh.

Cynthia Lauren Thorpe
November 26, 2010 5:33 pm

Hahahaha… Leave it to a woman in a Eco-Socialist country to get dibs on yet another
hair-brained bit of ‘logic’…afterall……..she KNOWS The Law (and how to pervert it…?) Let’s do an ancestry search… she’s probably related to Al!
Thanks, Anthony. I needed this!
C.L. Thorpe (singing “There Goes the Sun”…doo doo doo doo… an’ it’s alright…)

John F. Hultquist
November 26, 2010 5:36 pm

I think she has to visit the place first. Then plant her flag. Then return and file her ownership papers.
I’ll wait here.

Chris B
November 26, 2010 5:37 pm

My lawyer is already experienced in pursuing manufacturers of tanning beds for causing sun damage………..

LOL

Chris B
November 26, 2010 5:40 pm

Maybe the owner can verify if it’s true that there’s a ring around Uranus.
At least “skeptics have a sense of humour.

November 26, 2010 5:52 pm

I can’t wait for my bill to arrive, and what she intends to do when I fail to pay. There goes my credit rating. LOL………..
pRadio

H.R.
November 26, 2010 6:02 pm

Skeptic Tank says:
November 26, 2010 at 5:29 pm
AH HAH!!
Now, we really have somebody to blame for global warming. “Move that hot ball of fire a little further away, or we’ll sue.”

LOL! Let’s see how fast she drops her claim on the sun when someone with a little spare money and a sense of humor sends their lawyer around with an actual lawsuit. She may have a legal claim to the sun but she also has to obey the Law of Unintended Consequences.

Sam Hall
November 26, 2010 6:07 pm

John F. Hultquist says:
November 26, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I think she has to visit the place first. Then plant her flag. Then return and file her ownership papers.
I’ll wait here.

She said “I told you I am smart! I will go at night.”

Policyguy
November 26, 2010 6:09 pm

Anthony,
Why is this even here?

November 26, 2010 6:11 pm

The sun is too far away. Buy land on the moon.

John F. Hultquist
November 26, 2010 6:16 pm

Policyguy,
Have you not noticed the “masthead” of WUWT?
It says: Commentary on puzzling things in life, . . .

November 26, 2010 6:16 pm

So now we know who to sue for damages caused by the Sun’s U.V. rays, and any harmful climate changes caused by solar activity. I hope she has deep pockets!

johanna
November 26, 2010 6:20 pm

Anthony,
Why is this even here?
——————————–
I think it comes under the ‘puzzling things’ category.
Then again, perhaps it is just for a laugh – it certainly (ahem) brightened my day…

P Walker
November 26, 2010 6:22 pm

Policyguy – it’s the Friday Funnies .

Alex Buddery
November 26, 2010 6:24 pm

Awesome, now we have someone to sue for sunburn

R. Shearer
November 26, 2010 6:29 pm

Can I say Sun of a Bitch or just SOB?

Dan B
November 26, 2010 6:32 pm

I am reminded of my old neighbor Dr. Brett J. Gladman who discovered several new moons around Uranus.

AnonyMoose
November 26, 2010 6:35 pm

a jones says:
Surely the question is if nobody wants to play her game will she take her big shiny ball home with her?

It’s gone! I don’t see it anywhere!
You shouldn’t have given her any ideas.

David A. Evans
November 26, 2010 6:43 pm

Policyguy says:
November 26, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Because it’s damned funny! 😀
DaveE

Dan Newit
November 26, 2010 6:43 pm

I’m mooning her.

Douglas DC
November 26, 2010 6:46 pm

Someone thought about that sort of thing-Heinlein- need I say more?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sold_the_Moon

Lilly A. W. (call me LAW(Age:7))(Typed by: Mark A. W.(Age:13
November 26, 2010 7:08 pm

I Know She’s not Going to Give it to People Who Need it, She Wants to Keep it all, SHES LIEING ABOUT GIVING 90%, SHE IS MEAN.

tom s
November 26, 2010 7:14 pm

Is this registered in the National Star Registry I always here ads about on radio? “Give the gift of a Star this year”. If it isn’t I will not recognize!

Brian H
November 26, 2010 7:32 pm

Yeah? Well, she can just take her claim and stick it where the Moon don’t shine!
>:-(

899
November 26, 2010 7:39 pm

From the article:
“Duran, who lives in the town of Salvaterra do Mino, said she now wants to slap a fee on everyone who uses the sun and give half of the proceeds to the Spanish government and 20 percent to the nation’s pension fund.”
(Snicker!!!)
Come and get it, sweet cheeks!
:o)

Editor
November 26, 2010 7:48 pm

If she doesn’t want me using her sunlight, she can simply stop dumping it on my real estate.
As far as I’m concerned, she can take her sunlight and stuff it where the Sun don’t shine. 🙂

ROM
November 26, 2010 7:53 pm

Sam Hall says:
November 26, 2010 at 6:07 pm
So there are blondes in Spain after all!

Editor
November 26, 2010 8:02 pm

Hmm, according to http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_040202.html :

In a crafty stunt designed to “expose the phony extraterrestrial real estate industry,” British legal scholar Virgiliu Pop declared in 2001 that he owns the Sun and can charge the “owners” of other solar system bodies for the solar energy they receive.
Pop has written several papers on space property rights and is a member of the IISL.
“The Lunar Embassy does not own the Moon, hence it cannot sell it,” Pop said in an e-mail interview. “If you still believe you can actually own the Moon by buying it from the Lunar Embassy, then you will have to pay me utilities fees for the Sun that I own as much (or as little) as Mr. Hope owns the Moon.”

Miguel S.
November 26, 2010 8:06 pm

It’s not even funny, because she’s using exactly the same words as Dennis Hope did in 1980.
It’s even worse, cause Hope at least analyzed the law of California and found a gap in it. But the spanish law doesn’t allow such claims on unclaimed land. At least she should have made a trip to San Diego and claimed it there.
That’s pathetic like telling a 30 year old joke, blundering the payoff and calling some journalist to reaf some credit.

William Grubel
November 26, 2010 8:09 pm

I wonder, what’s the fine for having an unlicensed fusion reactor?

Christoph Dollis
November 26, 2010 8:25 pm

But is it nuclear, producing incidental electricity, or is it electrical, producing nuclear elements in the hot plasma of the corona?
That’s what I want to ask her.

Editor
November 26, 2010 8:38 pm

Private ownership of thermonuclear weapons is prohibited by international law. Arrest that woman.

Dave F
November 26, 2010 8:52 pm

Even the Sun is surprised. Check the face in the sunspots, it says 😮

F. Ross
November 26, 2010 9:02 pm

Can’t help but think, that if she makes some outrageous demands regarding “her sun,” then maybe she should [politely] stuff it “where the sun don’t shine.”

F. Ross
November 26, 2010 9:07 pm

Ric Werme says:
November 26, 2010 at 7:48 pm

My apologies – I failed to see your post before I made mine.

Sera
November 26, 2010 9:14 pm

So, we will sue her after the next CME causing satellite damage?

Mike McMillan
November 26, 2010 10:10 pm

Wait ’til she gets the bill for 5 billion years of unpaid property taxes.

Michael
November 26, 2010 10:26 pm

Maybe she can sell it on ebay? Maybe Angeles Duran is not so dumb after all. I’ll give her $5 for it with a maximum bid of $10.

Michael
November 26, 2010 10:32 pm

First thing in the morning I’m going to lay claim to the entire universe ex-Earth, sun and moon as my personal property. NO. As of now I lay claim to all that real estate and this blog post is legal verification for time stamp purposes. Eat that Angeles Duran.

Michael
November 26, 2010 10:43 pm

I hope she doesn’t have the right to rename it. She might just rename it after one of her cats or something. Morris has a nice ring to it.

FrankSW
November 26, 2010 10:44 pm

Does anyone know what the rates are for charging solar panel owners for use of the sun’s radiation.

Frank Kotler
November 26, 2010 10:54 pm

Speaking of the surprised look in those sunspots… they look a lot like 11/16/10 – a very familiar pattern. Watts up with SOHO? Hopefully, this post will be enough to jiggle it loose. 🙂
Best,
Frank

Ray
November 26, 2010 10:59 pm

If I am polluting and causing damages to the environment outside my property you can bet that I will get sued really fast by my neighbours and all levels of governments. This sun of hers is emitting dangerous levels of radiation and projecting hot plasmas everywhere in the solar system that could eventually kill us. On the long term, her property will go super-nova and destroy this part of space. If she does not prove that is is all under control and will stop harming us, we will sue. So lady, fix your sun or we will sue Uranus.

Ben
November 26, 2010 11:06 pm

Let the Skin Cancer Lawsuits Begin in… 5… 4… 3… 2…
Who said there were no downsides to ownership?

Jean Meeus
November 27, 2010 1:00 am

It is strange that the latest image of SOHO MDI Continuum is that of
November 16.
Up-to-date MDI real-time images can be found e.g. on the primary MDI site:
http://mdisas.nascom.nasa.gov/health_mon/gif_mag_index.html

Matt
November 27, 2010 1:01 am

@ a jones
duh! The sun is a disc, much like earth.

David L
November 27, 2010 1:58 am

So if I don’t pay my cable bill, the cable company turns off my cable. Is she planning to turn off the sun if people don’t pay her?

November 27, 2010 2:38 am

According to Attila Grandpierre, Hungarian astrophysicist, shaman and rock musician the Sun is full of life.
Therefore it is quite possible an entity there has already registered Spain (or at least Galicia) at a local notary public (or equivalent) as being her property, including all of Angeles Duran’s possessions. In that case a legal battle may ensue sooner or later.

Patrick Davis
November 27, 2010 2:53 am

Uranus was renamed to “Bumeholeh” many years ago to stop school boy titters.

Patrick Davis
November 27, 2010 3:03 am

“Ben says:
November 26, 2010 at 11:06 pm”
Add to that suit, power grid outages. Maybe we should e-mail this person about the “legal” risk? Or will she cry “act of god”?

johanna
November 27, 2010 4:14 am

No doubt she will be seeking licensing fees for the use of names like Sun Valley, Costa del Sol etc. Could be a nice little earner. I foresee long and costly legal battles with the owners of Earth over the rights to things involving the word ‘sunset’.
Whichever way you turn in life, the lawyers are in there getting a cut.

NovaReason
November 27, 2010 5:06 am

The UN treaty does apply to governments and their private citizens, which invalidates Hope’s claim to the moon and other celestial bodies, she said.
But that shouldn’t disappoint any prospective moon millionaires.
You don’t need to own a place to make money on it, Masson-Zwaan said. But you do need a clear legal framework for doing business on the property—something the moon currently lacks.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090720-apollo-11-who-owns-moon.html
Other people have pointed it out, but this quote from the leader of the ISL is pretty much as clear as it gets. There’s no way to develop a framework for doing business on the Sun. And her claim, as it would stand anyways, would legally be to the surface of the sun, not anything produced by the sun, other than she can utilize.

Mike from Canmore
November 27, 2010 8:34 am

Send me the bill. I promise to recycle it.

Pamela Gray
November 27, 2010 9:06 am

Would like to see her try to homestead the Sun. There are other ways that vested improvements are used by land owners, such as when seeking re-zoning. Does the homestead act still exist in the US? Are there homestead acts in other countries?

Christopher
November 27, 2010 9:41 am

I own the universe. All of you, get off my friggin lawn!

Eric Dailey
November 27, 2010 10:37 am

Long live the Queen of the sun.

Ken in the Keys
November 27, 2010 11:16 am

Relax folks. I am personally completing negotiations with the lady to exchange the Sun for a deed providing freehold possession of the Brooklyn Bridge. And even before she completes her planned new toll booths, I shall have have adjusted the sun’s radiation (with the help of two notch filters) to eliminate IR wavelengths subject to capture by CO2. No more chance of Global Warming!

Peter Melia
November 27, 2010 11:53 am

Do I see spots on the surface of Angeles’ sun, or she just not cleaning it enough?

November 27, 2010 12:17 pm

Monday, when the law offices are open, I intend to claim Outer Space — specifically the void between Earth and the Sun. Then all the solar energy that reaches the Earth will have trespassed across my private domain to get here. Naturally, a fee will be charged. Get ready to pony up, Earthlings.

Rational Debate
November 27, 2010 1:46 pm

Spain requires an Environmental Impact Assessment – I’d like to see her EIA for the Sun, thank you! I’m sure it’d be, um, enlightening!

Seamus Dubh
November 27, 2010 1:50 pm

So now we have someone to sue for damages due to the sun. i.e. solar flare power and communication outages, drought, crop damage, skin cancer, hell even global warming.

Edvin
November 27, 2010 4:06 pm

Time to claim “space” and charge her rent for having her big ball of fire in my property.

November 28, 2010 2:25 am

So now I know who to sue for my sun burn and my droughts.

Ulric Lyons
November 28, 2010 3:56 pm

Angeles Duran, on reaching her new real estate, does the fastest Flamenco ever, like a flash, literally.

David44
November 28, 2010 6:27 pm

I claim the atmosphere. Now all of you CO2 “polluters” are going to have to pay me to dump your nasty combustion products in my air. And all you farmers and foresters are going to have to pay me to use it. A fee on both ends; I love it – hey, I coulda been a banker, too. Airplanes will have to pay to fly in my air, and as for all you people who breath … well, OK, you can breathe for free. After all, I need you alive to pay me for all of the above.

baboy
November 28, 2010 8:27 pm

By a strange coincidence, I find myself the holder of the patent for Diatomic Oxygen ™. Not the element itself, of course, that would be ridiculous! No, I patented the double bond which holds two molecules of oxygen together in it’s atmospheric diatomic state. Someone else has the patent for the three atom single bonded ozone molecule, but word is the free radical form is up for grabs…….
At any rate, my fee for use of my diatomic oxygen molecule is the same as Ms. Duran’s fee for use of her sun! In homage to algebra, our fees will cancel each other out……..

Joel
November 29, 2010 11:50 am

But what of the magnetic/plasmatic lifeforms that inhabit the sun? Don’t tehy have indigenous claim? Power to the magnetoplasmoids of the sun!

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