UPDATE! See this new press release: AGU backs away from “climate rapid response team” citing faulty reporting
Gosh. A “Climate rapid response team” from Minnesota? What will they be armed with? Wits and a hockey stick? So far that hasn’t worked out too well. From the Chicago Tribune:
Climate scientists plan campaign against global-warming skeptics
The American Geophysical Union plans to announce Monday that 700 researchers have agreed to speak out on the issue. The effort is a pushback against congressional conservatives who have vowed to kill regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.
Faced with rising political attacks, hundreds of climate scientists are joining a broad campaign to push back against congressional conservatives who have threatened prominent researchers with investigations and vowed to kill regulations to rein in man-made greenhouse gas emissions.
The still-evolving efforts reveal a shift among climate scientists, many of whom have traditionally stayed out of politics and avoided the news media. Many now say they are willing to go toe-to-toe with their critics, some of whom gained new power after the Republicans won control of the House in last Tuesday’s election.
On Monday, the American Geophysical Union, the country’s largest association of climate scientists, plans to announce that 700 climate scientists have agreed to speak out as experts on questions about global warming and the role of man-made air pollution.
Some are prepared to go before what they consider potentially hostile audiences on conservative talk-radio and television shows.
John Abraham of St. Thomas University in Minnesota, who last May wrote a widely disseminated response to climate-change skeptics, is pulling together a “Climate Rapid Response Team,” which so far has more than three dozen leading scientists to defend the consensus on global warming in the scientific community. Some are also pulling together a handbook on the human causes of climate change, which they plan to start sending to U.S. high schools as early as this fall.
“This group feels strongly that science and politics can’t be divorced and that we need to take bold measures to not only communicate science but also to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists,” said Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York.
“We are taking the fight to them because we are … tired of taking the hits. The notion that truth will prevail is not working. The truth has been out there for the past two decades, and nothing has changed.”
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Heh, that last sentence pretty well sums it up. Read the whole article here.
I find the phrase “climate rapid response team” a bit of an oxymoron. Given the speed of climate change, did they mean “weather response team”? 😉
Well it looks like I and many of my associates be traveling more. When these guys come to your town, demand some equal time to present the skeptic side of the story.
h/t to WUWT Reader “Craig” in tips and notes.
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Associate Professor Email: jpabraham@stthomas.edu Phone: 651-962-5766 Toll Free: (800) 328-6819, Ext. 651-962-5766 Mail OSS101 2115 Summit Ave. St. Paul, MN 55105 Office Location: OSS 107 |
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Absolutely right. There was no actual evidence for the silly CO2-driven AGW theory in 1988, and after two decades and $100 billion, there is still no evidence for it, and in fact it has been completely disconfirmed in all its predictions.
Bring on the pscience and the pscientists supporting this nonsense. Real scientists will respond — now, in testimony before Congressional committees — and “the truth” may actually get some publicity.
Money is always the deciding factor. I would wager that funding is what’s really at risk to the climate science community. Unwilling to admit that they’ve been practicing bad science with mixed politics has caught up with them. At this point I don’t think I’m really worried any longer. They’ll start savaging one another as the ship goes down…, Be fun to watch…,
The part that really stick out like a sore thumb is this:
Global Warming expertise is useless in a cooling world.
Wanted: Energy Efficiency experts. Perpertual Motionists need not apply.
scott ramsdell says:
November 7, 2010 at 6:46 pm
700 “climate scientists” vs. 1 Lord Monckton
Bets?
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Lord Monckton would have to leave all his wits at home, as I doubt the 700 could summon a half-wit amongst themselves.
evanmjones says:
November 7, 2010 at 6:27 pm
“BTW, there have been a couple of questioning over the past few months about whether an”Associate Professor” is actually a professor. An “Associate” professor IS a professor, usually with tenure.Even an Assistant Professor is a professor. Very often only the head of division is ever a Full Professor.”
In the American system, an Assistant Professor is a newly hired professor who is on a tenure track. An Associate Professor has just received tenure and employment for life. Associate Professors are on a standard schedule and nearly all are promoted to Full Professor if they work hard, publish, deliver papers at conferences, and so on. Department Chair is not a prestigious job. It involves endless office work, which the professoriate loathes, and is usually foisted on someone whose poor publication record requires him to do the job as a means of getting promoted to Full Professor. The people who invariably and deservedly enjoy prestige are the journal editors.
Scott Mandia posts on several sites that I frequent. When it comes to details I generally agree with him but often draw different conclusions from the data.
It dismays me to find that Mandia will allow himself to be associated with a someone as deluded as John Alexander.
Those “scientists” in the Team don’t seem to appreciate that hypotheses and theories are targets for criticism. That is their purpose. To put forward an idea and to have people try to shoot it to pieces with data.
What sort of fool does it take to deliberately stand between a sharp-shooter and the target?
scott ramsdell says: (November 7, 2010 at 6:46 pm)
700 “climate scientists” vs. 1 Lord Monckton
Bets?
Yeah, sure doesn’t look fair, does it . . .
. . . maybe Monckton would be willing to let it get to 1000 – yet, then he still would be them in any debate . . . 🙂
Phil’s Dad says:
November 7, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Climate Rapid Action Party anyone?
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Heh heh heh.
Yeah, but would it morph into Climate Rapid Action Schutzstaffel ???
AGU recently started a new blog (http://blogs.agu.org/outdoorscience/), “Outdoor Science – Geoscience without the hot air”. Apparently not!
They are covering a range of topics including ‘climate change’, with an apparent Warmer bias.
Something to keep an eye on for a good laugh, or just to keep tabs on them.
Tiger Woods is being groomed to be one of our heroes in the future from our past.
After the ravages of economic breakdown has occurred, in 2013 or 2014 a hero from our past will have emerged. Like a country coming back from it’s darkest hours.
Tiger will be a symbol of our redemption in those years. How well off we ascend from the ashes is anybodies guess. In which way will one of our hero Woods of the past lead us?
Which political way will Tiger choose? Will his choice be your choice? Will you follow him anyway? Will you people choose to stay a sovereign country or will you choose to be governed by a new world order? That is the question.
My prediction is they will ride Obama’s coat-tails at a university rally, 20,000 teenage kids with OforA shirts cheering their every word with TV cameras rolling. There will be no debates of any real sort. They will generate the propaganda in leu of real science.
New methods for rapid response by alarmists:
http://sppiblog.org/news/alarmist-spammer-unleashes-twitterbot-to-stifle-climate-debate
Alarmist spammer unleashes Twitterbot to stifle climate debate
Source: CFACT
Nigel Leck, an Australian software developer, grew tired of debating climate realists on Twitter so he created a spambot to “wear down” his opponents. The bot, @AI_AGW, scans Twitter every five minutes looking for key phrases commonly used by those who challenge the global warming orthodoxy. It then posts one of hundreds of canned responses hoping to frustrate skeptics.
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REPLY: It always pays to check the front page of WUWT first – Anthony
Thanks to people like Anthony and Steve Mc, we’ve finally flushed them out.
I look forward to it. I doubt they intend to engage in much serious debate, but we will see.
Rapid response team…I picture them wearing jumpsuits a la ghost busters. Who ya gonna call?
Wouldn’t it make sense for them to show up at critical blogs?
“congressional conservatives who have vowed to kill regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.”
They do a bang super job of killing things, that’s for sure. I just hope they limit to the GHG emissions. History has plenty of examples of their overkill.
What am I saying? They turned this place into a bankrupt police state. They’ll probably kill me.
Someone post this one, please:
Don’t they mean “science and politics AND funding”
Psst… Michael… it’s obama… I know, I constantly confuse him and Tiger too. They look a lot alike, sound a lot alike, and both have the same amount of political experience…
After witnessing Abraham’s glacially ponderous “attack” on Monckton – it’s amusing he intends to form a “climate rapid response team”. He reminds me of an old Woody Allen joke – “he’s so slow he couldn’t herd turtles”.
They’d better be careful showing up on the conservative talk radio shows. They will get their asses handed to them by the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, and Michael Savage who have first-hand knowledge of the so-called climate science debate AND a crack staff ready to lay a field of land mines for naive scientists.
This Climate Response Team will end up being a farcical endeavor because, even as Joe Romm has said, the Obama administration is an utter failure when it comes to climate Central Planning. Romm went from calling Obama the “Green FDR” to a failure. I guess it’s just a “messaging problem”.
Oh no Mr Bill, they have sent in the Spanish inquisition. God save us.
CodeTech says: wrote
November 7, 2010 at 10:05 pm
“Psst… Michael… it’s obama… I know, I constantly confuse him and Tiger too. They look a lot alike, sound a lot alike, and both have the same amount of political experience…”
Thank you for pointing this out for us CodeTech, but you have not been exposed to our modern culture of Lindsy Lohan and Dancing With the Stars, and you do not understand our level of mind control. I say Tiger woods will be our prophet after the collapse. We are half way through phase 2 of the collapse. Phase 3 starts about June of next year and will last 18 months. Then the real fun begins.
Open question: why can’t these liberal climate scientists just accept that they overreached and lost? It really doesn’t matter if conservatives do not believe the science and are labeled
Holocaustdeniers — it’s the draconian legislative measures and government control of energy/life/carbon that scare the hell out of the majority of the public. Climate change legislation and cap & tax is only going to be tried in deep blue states like California. Let’s watch what happens for the next 1-4 years in the Golden State as they drive unemployment and taxes to new heights.Darrell Issa said he will be “investigating a lot”. What do these climate scientists have to hide — besides that decline? Alas, it’s just a messaging problem –which we know now because that ClimateGate email messaging sure backfired.