O…M…G – Video explodes skeptical kids in bloodbath

David Gould says:
September 30, 2010 at 8:27 pm
savethesharks,
I always try to help those having trouble with logic. Everyone can learn – even someone like me. 🙂
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That’s good to know.
You said yourself you don’t believe in the concept of evil.
But using your logic, knowing how you think by what you have just said, if evil does not exist, then who is to say “sceptics” are indeed not at the same level “vicious paedophiles.”
In your world, as DavidMHoffer so succinctly pointed out, it all just doesn’t matter.
But I am heartened to see that you are violating your own system of belief and showing some signs of an actual conscience.
You want to talk about this more offline I will be happy to. My email is sharkhearted@gmail.com.
-Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

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David Gould says:
September 30, 2010 at 10:32 pm
For those wishing to discuss this further with me, I am signing off for now. I should be able to respond more over the weekend.

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David Gould,
Note: I also posted this same comment over on the Tom Fuller post ” Lower Than This They Cannot Stoop”.
I appreciate your willingness to continue the dialog. Although, I admit it is a little surreal to be discussing this 10:10 video without discussing the fundamental beliefs of the ideological environmentalists pushing it. That is where I think the intellectual meat of the discussion is. But, instead let’s continue to discuss comedy as related to the 10:10 video and comparison to similar fiction.
First, to answer your following question to me, I would like to ask you a question. Do you think that me finding this video funny mean that, as one person here has suggested, I advocate the murder of children as social policy? If you do not, then you surely agree that some of the reaction here has been over the top.” David, I do not think you are a troll who is jerking us around. I think you mean what you are saying. Based on what you have said, I have no idea about what moral system you adhere to. I do not know what you are advocating other than a very broad perspective on comedy that is something like anything can be funny in certain contexts. I think there is a logical connection between a person’s fundamental values/thoughts and what they find funny (and by the way what art they admire).
REQUEST: When you get back, I would like to hear what context (you implied there might be one in a previous comment to me) you think would make comedic my following proposed fiction story from my previous comment to you:

John Whitman says:
September 30, 2010 at 8:44 pm
David Gould,
But I think you do see the point being made by commenters that if we were to write a fiction story about some future fascist government trying to push red buttons to eliminate Jews, it would not be funny except to someone who would be psychologically sick.
If you were to agree that such a fiction story would not be funny, then you probably can see why we do not find the 10:10 video funny.
John

John

I have a copy, and I have uploaded it to an independent site. I’ll post back with the details if all the other copies get pulled from YouTube.

If this is the current mentality of the global warmist community, then I would say that they need, and I mean it sincerely and honestly, psychiatric help. I cannot imagine such gory videos being shown to school kids. To me these videos are as bad, even worse than, a video produced by religious extremists showing their victims being beheaded, tortured etc. It is worse for the fact that while everyone would agree that the religious extremists are what they are, that is madmen, western kids would think that these Global Warmist videos, meant “to save the planet”, are mainstream and acceptable. We are turning our kids into global warmist extremist who, in a few years time will be beheading skeptics, blowing them (me) up and invoking the spirit of the godess Gaia to curse the skeptics. This IS global warmist religion.

TomPF: “Where I slightly disagree is in ” It has as it’s (anti-) heroes the non-conformist, the outsider, the underdog, the loser striving for dreams which will never be realised.” This, IMO, is far more a hallmark of American, rather than British humour. In Blackadder, for instance, Baldrick is forever downtrodden,”
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There is a long list of (anti-) heroes of the type I described (not all, of course, having every single one of those traits): Tony Hancock, Harold Steptoe, Basil Fawlty, Reginald Perrin, and the protagonists of Peep Show, The IT Crowd, The Young Ones, The Office, Extras, Red Dwarf, Only Fools and Horses and, yes, Blackadder spring to mind.
Baldrick isn’t the main protagonist but a subsidiary character of a familiar type, Manuel in Fawlty Towers and Piers in The New Statesman being other examples, where the anti-hero takes out their frustration on someone who is even more put upon. The audience also empathises with that whipping boy at those moments and I would suggest that this is a sign of a certain sophistication. The audience is being credited with the ability to empathise with an anti-hero with major flaws and recognise the fact that they can sometimes be as bad as the people who are oppressing them.
It is this aspect, I would suggest, which often leads to the failure of US translations of UK series such as Men Behaving Badly and Red Dwarf. The US versions try to clean up the anti-heroes, cast more conventionally attractive actors, smooth out their more unpleasant traits and generally try to make them more “loveable” and less of an obvious failure – thus losing the edge, the reality and much of the source of the humour.
To drag this back on topic.
Curtis seems to me a prime example of the type who initially bought into the CAGW idea fairly unthinkingly, because it seemed to “feel right”and fit in with their world view. At first there were no voices at all raised in the UK media questioning the orthodoxy. It wasn’t until C4 showed “The Great Warming Swindle” that most people would have been exposed to any doubt at all. By then it was too late for many, and as all doubters since have been characterised as cynical right-wing idealogues funded by Big Oil once their Tobacco funding ran out, then you can see how hard it is to start again from square one with your thinking if you are anywhere to the left of right wing.

Again and again I’m struck by the divorce from reality manifest by those who paid for and produced this video. Leaving aside whether or not it is funny, or whether or not Richard Curtis spoofed his clients, it is now obvious that the video is a disaster and is being pulled by its sponsors. But how on God’s Green Earth did they imagine that this would be effective video? I like Lucy Skywalker’s take: Florid Psychosis. And a marker for the desperation of the alarmists as the tide of their scientific hoax and political putsch steadily ebbs.
Will it get worse, or will this be the opportunity for some politicians to have a ‘Sister Souljah’ moment about climate and energy? The time is ripe for it.
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I’ve emailed my MP (I’m in the UK), asking whether this group should continue to have charitable status, and stressing that this is a matter for the government as they are actively involved with (state run and funded) schools, hospitals and so on, and that this video, if the victims were other groups, is clearly “Hate Speech”. We should do whatever we can to stop them getting away with this. It’s utterly beyond the pale. The fact that their supporters think it “funny” is no different to any other fanatics thinking that their hate propaganda is funny.

I agree that the useful idiots and fellow travellers will be purged in the Brave New World if it is realized, and that message is subliminally present in the video as well: obviously EVERYONE is embedded with the means to be eliminated, if a simple push of a button is all it takes to do it.
I disagree that Mr. Gould is not engaged in a species of trolling: almost a variant of a concern troll, he is pushing the “but have you no sense of humor” meme through a relentless reasonableness. Still somewhat shocked he regards his efforts as a good use of government time and money.
Many thanks to those who have embedded/copied/linked th atrocity. It needs to go viral, as well as the fact that if one needs to “friend” someone (who?) to still see it “legitimately”, it is perhaps validated as something considered a legitimate communication to the choir.
Not funny either (as is NOT kadaka at 6:52 a.a.)
More James Lees

When clicking the vid on their website here: http://www.1010global.org/no-pressure
The following message is displayed:
10:10 GLOBAL HOME
No Pressure
Sorry, we’ve taken this video down for now. More info coming very soon.

In the context of other AGW proponents promoting putting skeptics on death camp trains, this is scary. Zealots of any stripe are dangerous, and this type of propaganda appeals to them. Without those other comments, the video would just be crude and amusing in a sophomoric way.

It appears that someone with a functioning brain has stepped in; http://www.1010global.org/no-pressure now shows:
“Sorry, we’ve taken this video down for now. More info coming very soon.”