Upset that he didn’t get his way on the White House Solar Panel fiasco, Bill McKibben makes a threat. Unfortunately, the Los Angeles Times is an accessory by giving McKibben a platform from which to launch it.
From his guest editorial here:
Actually, I’ll be surprised if the White House doesn’t put up solar panels within a year. But even if they do, that would just be the barest of beginnings. Which is why, with other environmental leaders, we recently issued a call for ideas about a campaign of civil disobedience next spring — at power plants and coal mines but at White Houses too, if they don’t turn at least a little green.
So tell me Bill, what then after that if that doesn’t work?
On the plus side, it will probably be another farce like the power plant rally NASA GISS’ Dr. Jim Hansen last attended. There, Bills buds made a delusional claim to have “shut down” the Washington DC power plant.
Actually the truth is, they were “shut out”. They never got past the gate, and the power plant ignored them and went humming along much like the Eaarth does.
You can read the story behind the hilarious photo above here.
I don’t have a problem with people protesting nonviolently in a non-disruptive way, even if I don’t agree with them.
DesertYote says:
September 17, 2010 at 7:42 am
Were is it going to end?
IMHO, ultimately war – either civil or intercontinental. There is too much money invested (or rather vitual debt racked up). We can only hope that the sun performs a moderating influence as it has done in the past throughout history.
“we recently issued a call for ideas about a campaign of civil disobedience next spring — ”
Inside the threat is the admission of defeat.
if they had been right in the first place, they wouldn’t have to wait for Spring.
Now they just want to make trouble.
“I don’t have a problem with people protesting nonviolently in a non-disruptive way, even if I don’t agree with them.”
Protests are one thing.
Civil disobedience has to be disruptive .
M White says:
September 17, 2010 at 11:06 am
This’ll make his head explode
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog
“That’s enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.”
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So much for the dependence on foreign oil argument. If this is true, it’ll be headline news.
As Monty Python’s sketch about the Parliamentarian who’d finally had enough of all the Whinging: Got up and said: “….Sick and Tired people are Sick and Tired of being told that Sick and Tired people are Sick and Tired. ….And…… I’m Sick and Tired of It !!!!!!”
I’m sick and tired of these Green people.
But that girl in the middle does looks cute. So, where do i sign up!!!????
M White says:
September 17, 2010 at 11:06 am
This’ll make his head explode
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog
“That’s enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.”
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The numbers in the icecap article appear to be inaccurate. Article refers to 503 billion barrels but the link to USGS refers to 3-4.3 billion barrels; http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
Related to Federal Lands:
National Oil and Gas Assessment
http://energy.cr.usgs.gov/oilgas/noga/
EPCA Phase III Report
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/energy/oil_and_gas/EPCA_III.html
“The results show that 279 million acres of Federal lands are within areas mapped as having oil and natural gas potential. These lands contain an estimated 31 billion barrels of oil and 231 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. The report provides an inventory of the extent and nature of limitations to development of these resources and does not make any policy recommendations in response to its findings.”
All this issue of global warming nuts/wrong science reminds me that we are really dealing with a consequence of a personality perversion named “self-conceit” which rejects as ignorance all that is common sense. This is the evil trend which we witness in every post-modern profession : The more complicated, the more “intelligent”, the more mysterious the more important “I am”. This phenomenon reaches unbelievable expressions such as MD’s rejecting to cure patients using natural medicine. One example among a million: There is one herb, known as “Chancapiedra”(stones’smasher)(*) which dissolves kidney’s stones, however they choose moore sophisticated and, obviously, more EXPENSIVE ways to do it.
(*) Stones’ smasher (phyllantus niruri)
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=tmpg&hl=en&u=http://www.perunaturalproducts.com/la_chancapiedra.htm&langpair=es|en
Next thing you know some nut will attack Discovery Channel.
johnnythelowery says:
September 17, 2010 at 11:56 am
I beg your pardon, what do you smoke?
Dave says:
September 17, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Next thing you know some nut will attack Discovery Channel.
Hey, what about their attack on us? 🙂 Is it there where that japanese-canadian-astrologist-global warmist pretends to teach science? I was zapping and heard him saying: “This is exactly how the Sun works”
Wow! That’s brain washing!
But in the picture he seems to be telling us to “live long and prosper”. His lack of critical thinking skills tells me he is probably only half Vulcan ( the bottom half ).
When you don’t have a life, civil disobedience is a great way to kill an afternoon.
I dont think this is funny. Looking at it from their point of view, if you have hyped yourself up to believe the end of the world is nigh, this is exactly the sort of desperate action you would start to contemplate when you suffer a reversal and ordinary channels start closing. I think these are dangerous times while the wheels are visibaly falling off the AGW wagon, but major public organisations or figures stay sitting on the fence. Luckily, so far these proposals are only sad, feel-good, token gestures aimed at soft targets, but unless things cool down soon, Id be worried about more Silver Springs. I sure hope some of you guys out there on the front line are OK.
They are not smart enough to at least do their bit in the right country where it might have an impact. In China they could shutdown one a week and not keep up.
Move to China McKibben’s children, to China, that is where your calling lies.
The guy’s a frickin’ Nutjob.
Fortunately we have the ability to flood these morons with oil.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/What_the_Adminstration_and_Environmentalists_Don.pdf
I would like to remind at least Americans that were it not for civil disobedience we would still be British.
“Disobedience to tyranny is obedience to God”
M White says:
September 17, 2010 at 11:06 am
This’ll make his head explode
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog
“That’s enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.”
“We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth”
“and it’s all right here in the Western United States”
As pointed out above, I believe this to be an utterly ridiculous estimate. The true figure is likely to be nearer 3.6bill (http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911 ) USGS April 2008.
Whats more, it’s also likely to pretty expensive oil to extract in comparison with the much, much larger Saudi reserves.
Bear in mind that the US is consuming around 7 bill bbl p.a (http://www.eia.doe.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=oil_home#tab2)
@ur momisugly M White & John from CA.
The Bakken is oil in shale, small isolated puddles of oil trapped in a vast amount of non-permeable shale. Estimates go as high as 500 billion barrels. But this is like the argument that there is more gold in the Pacific Ocean than in all the gold mines in the world. OK, so how do you propose mining the Pacific Ocean? Ah, thanks to a “recently developed methodology”. Queue the conspiracy theorists…
@peterhodges
We just ignored the British (in Canada) until their accents changed.
But seriously, a bunch of government paid “scientists” marching against the tyranny of their government – for not erecting solar panels on the White House?
But the best of McKibben is at the end of his op-ed piece. Nothing like a little totalitarianism if all else fails, and the idiots just won’t agree with you.
“We’ve run out of spare decades to deal with climate change — the summer’s events in the Arctic, in Russia, in Pakistan proved that with great clarity. We know what we need to do, and we must do it. Enthusiastically.”
@ur momisugly M White & Tim Williams.
The estimates at 500 billion barrels seem to be right. The only problem is the fact that we are talking about shale-oil. Small little puddles of oil trapped in a vast shale unit.
If you take the amount of gold in the Pacific Ocean it likely exceeds that of all of the gold mines in the world. So where is the line-up to mine the Pacific Ocean for gold? I think it starts right beside the line-up to extract oil from shale in the Bakken.
At the end of the day, the one sure cure for a bolts-in-the-side-of-the-head liberal, such as Mr McKibben, is a seriously good mugging.
It is truly amazing how much clarity of thinking a near death experience brings. In exceptional cases, two muggings may be needed to cure the affliction.
BS? I have seen it with my own eyes – logic and good science rarely works, so a good mugging is about the only guaranteed cure for a serious liberal.
Its probably a good time to buy a little more of XOM. They pay a reasonable dividend.