
In this recent post I discussed a paper on regional temperature divergence issues related to irrigation from Dr. John Christy saying:
New irrigation effects study counter to what Christy discovered
This press release below from Columbia University shown below suggests that irrigation cools the region undergoing irrigation. However, a study published three years ago of California’s central valley by Dr. John Christy suggests exactly the opposite. See this WUWT post from 2007, then read the Columbia story and decide for yourself.
From UAH: Irrigation most likely to blame for Central California warming
A two-year study of San Joaquin Valley nights found that summer nighttime low temperatures in six counties of California’s Central Valley climbed about 5.5 degrees Fahrenheit (approximately 3.0 C) between 1910 and 2003. The study’s results will be published in the “Journal of Climate.”
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Dr. Christy responds via email, and I’ve added graphs and links to enhance his presentation to us.
I would like to let the readers know (several of whom obviously did not read it) that the 2006 California paper (PDF here)was based on daily time series of 41 stations in the six south-central San Joaquin Valley and adjacent Sierra counties. 18 stations were in the valley, 23 in the Sierra (mainly the foothills).
The time series for each of these stations was divided into segments based on the examination of all NWS forms that NCDC was able to find – over 1500 pages. I examined each form and personally digitized its basic information (see attached.) In the example, you can see the results of reading 25 of these forms for Madera CA. I keyed in the
relevant information, then at the bottom of the spreadsheet summarized the results with a listing of the dates and reasons for establishing a segment breakpoint, in a sense treating each segment as a separate “station”.
See this PDF file showing metadata for Madera_045233
I sent the digitized metadata files for each station to the WRCC for safekeeping if for some reason I lose them.
I also hand-digitized several years of DAILY TMax, TMin too – for downtown Fresno, it was about 40 years worth … a very tedious project for a grandpa like me.
This method in essence provides a set of time series which can be debiased relative to each other through a method described in the paper that used mathematical game theory. By having this many stations (order 20 in Valley and Sierra separately) I have oversampled the region’s signal, thus allowing, as shown in the paper, several ways to test the resulting trends and issue statements of confidence.
We are very confident that TMin is warming rapidly in the Valley while the TMax trend is not significantly different from zero. The seasonal distribution of this result is consistent with irrigation. The Sierra time series show no such TMin trends – also consistent with
irrigation/development in the Valley but not Sierra. The fact trends in TMax and TMin in the Sierra are not rising is evidence against the notion that the lack of rise in TMax in the Valley is due to irrigation (though it could have some impact … but keep in mind that a number of these Valley stations have become urbanized in any case – perhaps a bigger daytime signal than irrigation.)
Since TMax is more highly coupled to the deep atmosphere (daytime mixing), TMax is therefore the better candidate to be used as a proxy for greenhouse warming since this type of warming is maximized in the troposphere according to model theory. The temperature results in this part of California (see also Christy and Hnilo 2010 on snowfall) do not provide evidence of greenhouse theory expectations.
Some have mentioned other factors that contribute to rising night temps, and these are discussed more fully in Christy et al. 2009 regarding East Africa temps (another tedious effort to digitize numerous stations here-to-fore never examined.) The key factor in all of these causes is the idea that the delicate, nocturnal boundary layer in which TMin is
measured can be easily disrupted by many factors – warmth from surface fluxes due to irrigation, IR forcing from aerosols, buildings which increase roughness (and thus mixing) etc. When the BL is disrupted, the warmer air above the inversion is mixed downward and is evidenced by a warmer TMin than would otherwise be the case.
I have not read the paper being discussed which suggests irrigation cools the temp stations. This would be a difficult thing to establish from typical datasets as these are “homogenized” in a way that smears the station trends from other stations of quite different micro-climate situations into each other. As noted above, I kept the Valley and
Sierra distinct and used many more stations (a station density of at least 10 times greater.)
John C.
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John R. Christy
Professor, Atmospheric Science
Director, Earth System Science Center
Alabama State Climatologist
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Jerry says:
September 12, 2010 at 6:04 pm (Edit)
Normally temperature stations log humidity as well as temperature.
The humidity values would seem to be very relevant to a theory that irrigation has a microclimate effect.
Are there any plans to revisit with an examinaton of humidity?
REPLY: Actually, only a small percentage of the nation’s COOP stations log humidity. Most are temperature and precip only – Anthony
Since humidity has such obvious effects on temperature, you’d think that now the tech to measure it is so cheap, that the organisation which runs the network and supplies new equipment would include a humidity sensor. Or do they but we don’t get to see the data?
“”” RACookPE1978 says:
September 13, 2010 at 7:47 pm
George E. Smith says:
September 13, 2010 at 8:24 am
Welcome to the world of Agricultural Science. I have a house in California’s central valley, near the Fresno Visalia region by Hiway 99. If I listen to the local radio Station KMJ, at about 4 AM in the morning; on the way driving to the SF Bay area, I can get the daily farm report, including the current agricultural crop water requirements. Each day they broadcast the amount of water that the farmers need to use for irrigation; for each local area, and also giving the “Crop Coefficients” for each farm crop; Alfalfa having the standard crop coefficient of 1.00. You multiply the daily required water by the crop coefficient to find out how much water you have to supply to that crop in that region that day.
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And in the southern Idaho regions near my first nuclear power site inside INEL, they broadcast the 7-inch soil temperatures every morning. It took a long time to figure why.
Because potatoes grow inside that first 7 inches of soil. Too warm (too cold) at that depth, it’s the wrong time to plant, plow, harvest …. “””
Well you can grow potatoes deeper than that if you know how; and the how unfortunately won’t work for the Idaho spud industry. You have to grow them in a barrel.
So you put about six inches (or your seven if your prefer) of (very loose) soil in the bottom of the barrel, and you put your piece of seed potato(e) right in the middle of that just under the surface and let it sprout, and emerge from the soil. Before it gets high enough to start putting out leaves and stuff, you add a few more inches of the same very loose soil, and you cover that sucker up by a few inches. Pretty soon it will be out and about again so you add more soil and cover it. You can’t bury it too deep, because it need to see some sunlight which it is trying to reach.
Once you get the barrel full of soil, then you let the plant grow normally.
What you have done is forced the plant to grow a great big long root system, all the way down the middle of the barrel; and it will oblige you by growing pretty near a barrel full of potato(e)s. Great for people living on the 75th floor in Manhattan.
Too bad there’s not enough very loose soil to do that all over Idaho.
I stand corrected on the “con job”. I also looked up pictures of Dr. Christy, and should have noticed the remarkable UNFAMILIAR face as not being Dr. C’s. My heartfelt apologies. And my THANKS to Martin C. for the propaganda catch.
Gives us an INTERESTING comment on the mechanisms of the LEFT. Harks back to “Qu’ils mangent des gâteaux” versus “Qu’ils mangent le petite gâteaux”, one of the first instances of using a convinient distortion to obtain a horrible end.
George E. Smith says:
September 14, 2010 at 4:18 pm (Edit)
“”” RACookPE1978 says:
September 13, 2010 at 7:47 pm
George E. Smith says:
September 13, 2010 at 8:24 am
Welcome to the world of Agricultural Science. … … Before it gets high enough to start putting out leaves and stuff, you add a few more inches of the same very loose soil, and you cover that sucker up by a few inches. Pretty soon it will be out and about again so you add more soil and cover it. You can’t bury it too deep, because it need to see some sunlight which it is trying to reach.
Once you get the barrel full of soil, then you let the plant grow normally.
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Would you not need a clear-sided barrel to keep the potato’s “just-barely-covered” upper roots and the covered greenery that is trying to break free be able to sense the sunlight for more than just the 90 minutes it takes to travel across the barrel’s open top?
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racookpe1978 says:
September 15, 2010 at 8:14 am
George E. Smith says:
September 14, 2010 at 4:18 pm (Edit)
“”” RACookPE1978 says:
September 13, 2010 at 7:47 pm
George E. Smith says:
September 13, 2010 at 8:24 am
Welcome to the world of Agricultural Science. … … Before it gets high enough to start putting out leaves and stuff, you add a few more inches of the same very loose soil, and you cover that sucker up by a few inches. Pretty soon it will be out and about again so you add more soil and cover it. You can’t bury it too deep, because it need to see some sunlight which it is trying to reach.
Once you get the barrel full of soil, then you let the plant grow normally.
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Would you not need a clear-sided barrel to keep the potato’s “just-barely-covered” upper roots and the covered greenery that is trying to break free be able to sense the sunlight for more than just the 90 minutes it takes to travel across the barrel’s open top? “””
No you don’t want a clear barrel. In fact you don’t want any sunlight falling on the potato(e)s themselves or you will heave them growing that poisonous green stuff. The shoot coming out of the eye of a potato is very toxic; and if you don’t carve every scrap of green off a potato before you cook it wou will get that bitter poisonous taste in your food.
It is the growing shoot that needs the sunlight to feed down towards the root system; so you just don’t want to cover it too deep. The reason they plant the seed potato shallow. is just so that shoot can quickly emerge. Other than that the potatos themselves could probably grow at 20 feet deep if you can train the plant to grow that long a root system.
Same thing applies to other similar crops like yams or other sweet potatos (Kumara for you Kiwi blokes).