I wouldn’t have believed this if I hadn’t read it for myself. This is an actual study and press release from the University of York. I’m surprised they didn’t issue this press release IN ALL UPPER CASE. Those darn whippersnappers.
New rules of engagement for older people and climate change
A new study by researchers in the Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI) at the University of York calls for better engagement of older people on climate change issues.
The report, prepared in partnership with the Community Service Volunteers’ Retired and Senior Volunteer Programme (RSVP), urges the scrapping of stereotypes which suggest that older people are incapable of engagement, passive or disinterested in climate change.
Instead, the research team recommends new approaches to engage older people, which promote direct interaction and the use of trusted agents that are sensitive to the personal circumstances older people face. The report sets out a ten-point plan to engage older people more effectively on climate change issues and greener living.
Recent evidence from the older age sector highlight the inadequacies of current methods of information provision and community engagement on climate change
The report claims that a combination of climate change and an ageing population will have wide ranging socio-economic and environmental impacts. It acknowledges that older people may be physically, financially and emotionally less able to cope with the effects of climate-related weather events.
Lead author Dr Gary Haq, a human ecologist at SEI, said: “The engagement and participation of older people in climate change issues are important as older people can be seen as potential contributors to, and casualties of, climate change as well as potential campaigners to tackle the problem.”
‘Baby boomers’ (aged 50-64) currently have the highest carbon footprint in the UK compared with other age groups. They represent the first generation of the consumer society entering old age. As they will move to older groups they will replace low carbon footprint habits and values with relatively high consumption.
Dr Haq said: “Recent evidence from the older age sector highlight the inadequacies of current methods of information provision and community engagement on climate change. It is critical to implementing policies to tackle climate change and to address the needs of an ageing population.”
Dave Brown, co-author and member of RSVP, said: “While older people are concerned about climate change, they do not feel they will be directly affected. Nor do they feel they can personally take action to stop it. The older generation represent a missing voice and a missed opportunity.”
Notes to editors:
- The Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI) is a global science policy research institute headquartered in Stockholm and with its UK office based in the Environment Department at the University of York. Its mission is to bridge the gap between science and policy to achieve change for a sustainable future.
- More about the University of York’s Environment Department can be found on www.york.ac.uk/environment/
- According to the Government’s Actuary Department, by 2050 people aged over 50 will represent 30 per cent of the UK population compared to 2006.
- SEI’s updated calculations show that baby boomers (aged 50-64) have one of the highest carbon footprints (13.5 tonnes/CO2) in the UK compared other age groups Seniors (aged 65-70) have a carbon footprint of 12. 5 tonnes/CO2 while Elders (aged 70+) have a footprint of equal to the UK average of 12 tonnes.
- As the ‘baby boomers’ move into the older groups they will replace low carbon footprint habits and values with relatively high consumption habits. This “replacement effect” is crucially important and identifies the need for a much clearer targeted effort on climate change and consumption aimed at this demographic group.
- The ten-point plan for engagement of older people in climate change issues:
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- Abandon old stereotypes
- Get to know your target audience
- Use trusted brands
- Use peer to peer communication
- Use positive messages
- Use the right “frames”
- Show real life examples
- Develop an inclusive dialogue
- Maximise participation
- Ensure the setting is right for change
- The full report can be found on the SEI web site: www.sei-international.org
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foxgoose, I will put in my 2 cents for the new mustang with the big engine and all the performance stuff. Not that I do not like Porsches, there is one in the driveway and one in the shop getting a new gas tank. The crud they spread on the roads up here in Boston would corrode anything and it is 23 years old.
It is never too late to learn. Evidently at 70+ I am classified as an Elder. I don’t suppose the whippersnapper of a ‘social ecologist’ was ever told to “respect your elders”.
And if this blog is anything to go by, my fellow Elders and Seniors and Boomers still have their faculties and wit. I would pity any watermelons charged with “engaging” with us. TinyCO2 @August 26, 2010 at 9:48 am said it all.
“…less able to cope with the effects of climate-related weather events.”
How is one to “cope with” an effect of a local average of weather? There is no such thing
as “climate-related weather events”. There is only weather and a periodically human averaged weather , which is sometimes called “climate”, which is not a cause of anything.
This may not be as easy as they think.
Ditto to ShrNfr (August 26, 2010 at 4:07 pm) on the Mustang GT. I’m hankering for one myself, though the prospect of garaging it in the winter is annoying (I’m also in the Boston area).
And as a “39 and holding” (Jerry Lee Lewis) codger, if any of these danged nimcompoops come after me, they’ll find their immediate climate heating up all right.
/Mr Lynn
This is worse than we thought! Has anyone contacted the Union of concerned scientists?
Fellow old folks, we are missing the opportunity!! Let the watermelon in, offer a drink (not your best Scotch, though) and sit the ignoramus in front of your computer and start to re-educate him/her. Start with Watts Up With That, perhaps. There is nothing like a one-on-one discussion to get the good points across. You may get a convert — or the poor soul will shoot out of the door faster than a jack rabbit.
I’ve finally found Climate Talk of SEI at York Uni, it’s about outreach to over-50’s in Yorkshire.
I’d like to tell Dr Haq about this thread and point him to Dusty here, but first, I’d like people here to note that
(a) I cannot find the ten points of communication anywhere outside the 2010 press release
(b) the press release gives no title to the project. But after searching four pages of SEI projects plus Dr Haq, one concludes the project is “Climate Talk”, see my link above.
(c) unfortunately this project was started in 2007 and ended in 2008; its dedicated website http://www.climatetalk.org.uk advises there is another website for the current project, called York Green Streets Challenge
(d)… which is “temporarily unavailable”
Hahahaha
@Bernie says:
@August 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Yes, you have identified the root of the problem. I suspect a similar lack of proper education in East Anglia…
Yes, like the 40,000 excess deaths in the UK this past winter. Mild winters are better for old people in the UK, so stuff them!
Im extremely sorry!
We brought Ahrennius Bohlin and the Stocholm conference on you guys.The initiative to this corrupted monster called IPCC (you the bad exuse of and substitute to science) is Im sorry to admit is basicly Swedish!! But dont blam or expect all swedes to be corrupted and politizised.
You have to understand what kind of siege we are under here! Maby you dont think this can be true but it is….SEI is the Swedish gouvernment advisor in its relations with UNEP!!! Dont laugh!! Please!!! SEI is earns no less than 168.000.000 sek on the trafficing of climate change scare. That we have a Swedish proffessor as lead athor (Chang) on AR5 chapter one. Whos already stated that he knows fore sure that the weather extrems is proven to be increacing in both frequence and intensity.
Im very sorry guys but thats the case!!!.Now you know what sweden ordered to put into the next chapter.
Yuo Englishmen you have your BBC that you think is biased!! Well you shold try the swedish public service SVT for a change. You are lucky! and you also have the Daily Telegraf do think that we have ONE SINGLE MSM Newspaper that is just a tiny tiny little bit sceptic ??? Sorry go to any Swedish paper on the internet. What will meet you as first and dominate your impression is the total spam of banners from WWF everywhere no matter what newspaper you choose,or what article WWF is there!!!
That the most dominante climate journalists in Sweden has scollarships from WWF..do you think that that might effect their impartiality?? I dont know but there might be a connection? We are totally barraged with propaganda I think Castro looks at sweden wondering why dictatorship is necessary when you can copy the swedish soluotion instead and make it look like a free media.
The main man of SEI Mr Johan Rockström has been treated as a living oracle by our public service. He was appointed the —please dont laugh…Swede of the year!! His favorit mainm climatescare has been the Antarctica you know ?? The melting araea
and know I wonder if its not the spot where the climacteriologist is peening that hes been studying…or do you know any other area thats melting away in Antarctica!!! Beats me though!
But please support the climate propaganda restistance groups here in Sweden.Without any authority from M Tauerskiöld whos been extremely brave to run the “The Climats Scam” blogg i really asks for your support. Please come and visit us there.Everybody understand english and we would just love to have some indication that we are not the only sain people in the world! Support us and please please confirm that you know that we exist.There still are som healthy spots and some hope for sweden. 🙂
I would like to refer Dr Hack to a paper by Dr B. Ullshidt and Dr Horst Droppings entitled “How to Manipulate Old People”.
It’s a very short paper, arrived at after extensive research. It came to the following principal conclusion:
“Don’t even try, because they’ve seen/heard it all before.”
Dr Haq is brought to you by the Carbon Life Forms Against Carbon Coalition.
Motto: “The unseeing leading the blind in a quest of ignorance”
“….while older people are concerned about climate change, they do not feel they will be directly affected. Nor do they feel they can personally take action to stop it…”
When that begins to make sense, you are entering senile decay.
juanslayton says:
August 26, 2010 at 12:28 pm “no URL”
Hi JS,
Me thinks, maybe, it is from here (and it will cost you):
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1960/04/23/1960_04_23_043_TNY_CARDS_000262805
Ogden Nash, Poetry, “Laments For a Dying Language,” The New Yorker, April 23, 1960, p. 43
Read the full text of this article in the digital edition. (Subscription required.)
“ABSTRACT: In the nice-minded Department of Prunes and Prisms,”
“”” Bernie says:
August 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I was intrigued by Gary’s shyness about his academic background – so I went looking:
Gary Haq’s Education
Open University
Continuing Professional Development , Psychology , 2007 — 2008
Open University
Dip. Econ. , Economics , 2000 — 2002
Lancaster University
PhD , Geography (Transport & Environment) , 1991 — 1995
University of College Wales, Aberystwyth
MSc , Environmental Impact Assessment , 1990 — 1991 “””
Hang on a minute there; you mean there are actually universities where you can study “Environmental Impact Assessment” for about six years or so; (four to get a Bachelors, plus another two for a Masters) ?
That’s incredible. I knew that when you study for a PhD (Doctor Laura has a PhD); they teach you more and more about less and less; but I thought you actually had to learn something to get a Masters degree.
I thought about getting a PhD in Ice Cream Making; but the classified ad section in the newspaper for qualified PhD Ice Cream Maker jobs was a bit sparse, so I thought it more useful to learn some broader skills; like maybe Physics and Mathematics.
When I went to University, you could get a Bachelor of Science Degree in Mathematics, or Physics, or Chemistry, or Biology; maybe Geology, but that was it; there was no such thing as “Climate Science” back then. They didn’t even have “Political Science” back then; or even “Computer Science” either.
Obviously they spend too much time on the football program these days, and not enough on Academic subjects.
Environmental Impact Assessment eh; I’ll have to ask my boss, if I would get a raise if I got a degree in that.
Slabadang says: ” . . . “The Climats Scam” blogg i really asks for your support. Please come and visit us there.Everybody understand english. . .”
. . . “ekoimperialismens” ; Although your translation software isn’t much better than average. Not to worry, over the years I’ve become relatively fluent in Babelfish. I can cope. Nor should you worry overmuch about Americans holding individual Swedes to task for the actions of their government. Americans of late have become used to being the ones to ask forgiveness for the actions of our government (at least if you’re not French). We understand. I’ll bookmark the site and try to stop by for a longer stay at some point. In the meantime; Goodbye, and, ummmm, thanks for all the fish. Yeah.
Pardon the argument ad homonym, but I find Dr. Haq’s name…interesting.
Latitude at aug. 26 at 11:49 What i was trying to say was the vote has not turned out the way they would like;any country, So get to the boomers so they can get the vote the next go around and the way most countrys go every couple of years, hence go after the boomers. Another thing i have seen written by others about acid rain meme in the 80s, I remember the acid rain thing from the late 70s here in the USA.
I made the mistake of reading this immediately after reading the Onion. I couldn’t tell the difference between this and an intentional joke.
I showed this to my wife. Like myself, she enjoyed the comments far more than the article or the other links. I am not going to repeat her comments here or I will get snipped. However, she is now interested in seeing if she can turn the good doctor into a glow in the dark toy. Is he available for an appointment in her department? It won’t hurt a bit, initially… Is she upset? Nawww!!!
I volunteer to box his ears with one of my math tomes that I keep here for reference…
Just another coupla codgers here eh?
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Hm. To be perfectly frank, I welcome Dr. Haq’s statement to the effect that “The engagement and participation of older people in climate change issues are important as older people can be seen as potential contributors to, and casualties of, climate change as well as potential campaigners to tackle the problem.”
As one of those “older people” myself, I’ve been engaged and participating in “climate change issues” since the anthropogenic global warming hokum began to surface back in the late ’70s, and I’d delight in seeing more of my age cadre getting involved.
Those to whom a reasoned appeal can be addressed as I know how. Those who have been suckered by the AGW fraud can be induced to quit propounding error and come over to common sense. Or to shut up and quit making fools of themselves.
But be very careful about what you ask for, Dr. Haq. When you get the “engagement and participation” for which you’re faunching, it’s a high probability that my generation will be entering the lists with every intention of hanging the remnants of your carcass in the sun to dry.
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Hmmm. I thought “Stockholm Syndrome” had something to do with liking the people who took you hostage. I have no affection for anyone who tells me how to live my life or what I can or cannot do. Downright hostility, in fact. (except when my doctor advises against skydiving, perhaps)
As a card carrying COG (Certified Old Grouch) who scoffed at the notion of “not trusting anyone over 30” (being well past that point back then) and convinced that we should not trust anyone, under 30 or otherwise, I feel rather offended by the tone of Haq’s proposals. How many businesses has he started? How many payrolls has he met? Just what does he know about anything outside his ivory tower?
Old Geezers, Unite! Throw these young whippersnippers out!
(kfg – I think it was “so long, and thanks for all the fish”
I’d drive over there and give Haq a piece of my mind. If I could remember where I parked my car …
Ages ago I had T shirts printed that read
” Youngsters! Leave home now, while you still know everything!”
Still have some in an office cupboard.
I have to be careful now as anytime I read about Haq, Gore or Clinton spouting AGW polycrap my blood pressure rises! At those times my nurse says she can actually feel a pulse.
Mr Haq needs my T shirt.
Dad was here visiting for about 6 weeks, he left to go home to Florida on Tuesday. Dad doesn’t qualify as and old codger under the definition given by Dr Quak. He is a little to old, being born in March of 1918. I had Dad talk to some of my grand kids and recorded it. About 1 and 1/2 hours of pure pleasure as they sat there wondering what he was talking about and the pleasure he received having to explain some of the measures they took to survive the crash of 29 and the dust bowl of the 30’s. Yep he is just to old to be one of the old codgers Dr. Quak speaks of. By the way Dad has just recently decided that his wrists are getting weak and had to give up his 44 magnum for a smaller 38 special. Dad is hard core serving in WWII in the merchant marine and working during the recession of the 50’s and the cold during that time and the 60’s. We moved to Fla for the warm weather in 60 dad was 43 I was 10. We had lived in NW Mississippi and I remember when the first electricity was available and everyone left the front porch light on all night just in case someone was looking and could see how modern we were. The first telephones came about 4 years later. Now me I guess I am an old codger/boomer, I’m 60 now and I have a large foot print even tho I am disabled I am still raising with my wife also disabled 4 grand kids cause the younger generation has a problem it seems with (not all of them thank God) responsibility. We did so enjoy that little one bedroom bungalo we lived in before forced to get the large 4 bedroom due to the increase in family size. (unplaned) The older I get and the more I dislike physical pain the more I understand one of dads favorite sayings, “Don’t pick a fight with an old man he will just……..” Well the conversations usually ends with a veryloud and abrupt conclusion. Us older folks have been here long enough to have seen the cycles come and go and we have heard about all the arguments from the many experts. It is just that we have learned that it isn’t necessary that we have to put up with it if we don’t want to . So all you younguns just keep in mind that if you decide that us older folks just have to change our ways, “Don’t pick a fight with an old man he will just ……” Leave us alone we have been through and done more than most of you will ever think about, the world isn’t seen through a computer screen. Before it is over you will be wishing for some warmer “climate”. Just a few thoughts kinda like Dad would have explained them. By the way Dad at 93 with out any hesitation states that this cagw is a bunch of crap and a scam. His words.
Bill Derryberry
Eh? Speak up, sonny.