Previously I have said this about the lack of integrity regarding the recent Climategate investigations:
The investigations thus far are much like having a trial with judge, jury, reporters, spectators, and defendant, but no plaintiff. The plaintiff is locked outside the courtroom sitting in the hall hollering and hoping the jury hears some of what he has to say. Is it any wonder the verdicts keep coming up “not guilty”?
Now from Bishop Hill we learn that it appears that the Oxburgh investigation let Dr. Phil Jones endorse what evidence (papers he’s published) to review. So let me amend what I said above:
The investigations thus far are much like having a trial with judge, jury, reporters, spectators, and defendant, but no plaintiff. The plaintiff is locked outside the courtroom sitting in the hall hollering and hoping the jury hears some of what he has to say. And, to add insult to injury, when you let the accused endorse which pieces of evidence might be a “fair sample”, is it any wonder the verdicts keep coming up “not guilty”?
This entire mess is snowballing again with UEA, CRU, and Dr. Jones right at the center again.
Details here at Bishop Hill who writes:
Well, now we know who the redactions were. The contact through with the Royal Society was through Martin Rees – we knew that already. The other redaction, the other person consulted about whether the sample of papers was reasonable, was…Phil Jones.
Now, whichever way you look at it, this is a funny question to put to the accused if one’s objective is a fair trial. I mean, what could Jones say? “You’ve picked all my bad papers”? And of course Jones must have known that the sample was not representative.
Gobsmacked I am, surprised I am not.
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The Oxburgh Inquiry: One Peer of the Realm, asked another Peer of the Realm to submit his Peer Reviewed Realm… quite a nice accommodation, don’t you think!
This gives new meaning to “Peer Reviewed!” In the last month, I have literally believed nothing I’ve heard in the writings of science, medicine, health, or climatology… nothing!
These people think that by screaming, “…the sky is falling, the sky is falling,” that they can simultanously get them rich or richer & then become famous… these are incredibly sad days for scientists & engineers (me.)
Manfred says:
July 19, 2010 at 1:54 pm
what is the process in Britain to remove the title from a “Lord” ?
Manfred, I’m afraid that other than “natural wastage”, there isn’t one. He could be convicted of a criminal offence, serve time in prison, and still retain his title (although not the right to sit in the legislative house).
[REPLY – He could be hanged. And even then he would retain his title. In fact, his rank would entitle him to a silk rope. (Or the axe.) ~ Evan]
Who is going to investigate the investigators? Jim Hansen? Mike Mann?
Somehow the phrase watching a slow motion train wreck does not adequately express how this is playing out. It is more like some cheap B movies car chases where they go Waaaaay out of their way to crash into things and set stuff on fire, and of course everything blows up in the end.
If a screen writer pitched the story of the long and painful collapse of AGW and the destruction of the reputations of a dozen once respected Universities and institutions like NASA as they seem intent on doing every stupid thing possible to destroy their credibility, the script would get tossed as unbelievable.
The fact that they think the world will not notice all their manipulations astounds me, the fact that the major news organizations think it is not news worthy leaves me shaking my head.
The fact that they keep on blundering from one keystone cops moment to the next and using the strategic planning skills of the 3 stooges, along with the sales acumen of a third rate flimflam man selling snake oil is both amusing and beyond belief.
I used to get angry, now I just shake my head in bemusement that highly intelligent people can be so blind and stupid due to their arrogance, and belief system, that they are totally unaware that they are rapidly becoming world wide laughing stocks.
I suspect that in 20-30 years Climate gate and global warming or some other related phrase will become a catch phrase embedded in our language like “Ponzi scheme”, is to fraud, or “Borked” is used to describe something that is totally screwed up due to some stupid action.
I am not sure which exact term will catch on, but eventually something will grab the public’s attention as the perfect description and term of choice to describe bumbling bureaucrats, and over reaching academics who have no clue what they are doing.
If I had to guess the two most likely will be:
“Mann” meaning that it is twisted beyond all recognition and has not validity.
As in — That business report is Manned!, or the profit and loss statement is Manned.
The other obvious candidate will be some variant of Gore or Gored, as a synonym for a maliciously manipulated sales pitch that uses extreme exaggeration and over the top scare tactics to manipulate a group into doing something that will benefit the person who they are getting “Gored” by. It also has a useful natural connection to the visual of a bull hooking someone with a horn.
Larry
It’s a perfect example of why the U.S. founding fathers prohibited a state-sanctioned religion here in America. They knew full well the tyranny that always follows a symbiotic relationship between religious leaders and government leaders.
The religion provides the moral sanction to the government, and the government provides the force of arms and the tax money to the religion – the religion of environmentalism in this modern example.
From the country that brought you “The Goons” and “Monty Python”, comes another example of comedic absurdity ….. [insert name of Climategate investigation of your choice]
Richard says:
July 19, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I now leave you, gentlemen of the jury, to retire, to carefully consider your verdict of “Not Guilty”
Superb Richard!
An excerpt from my “To Invent Armageddon” poem, with emphasis on 2 lines
The globe still recovers and glaciers still melt,
And though a chill in the air can almost be felt,
There’s nothing more normal than warming that’s global,
Despite Chicken Littles droning on about weather
And whether or not science daring to question
Their dogma is legal, and should even be mentioned,
Their hockey-stick lies tilt mad at the skies,
To invent armageddon, true science DIES…
© Dave Stephens 2010
Whitewashgate?
Where were the investigative journalists of the MSM? Why didn’t they break this story?
If a screen writer pitched the story of the long and painful collapse of AGW and the destruction of the reputations of a dozen once respected Universities and institutions like NASA
I like to think of it as “Positive Feedback”.
Now from Bishop Hill we learn that it appears that the Oxburgh investigation let Dr. Phil Jones endorse what evidence (papers he’s published) to review.
He warned them not to say the kid’s name. (Before it all blew up.) Now it’s Too Late . . .
“cheating, lying, illegal procurement and use of public funds to warrant a criminal trial”
In the UK ?
Hello, the whole bunch of MP’s (all parties) have only just finished an enquiry into their lying, cheating and stealing taxpayers money for their own misuse….and so far only 3 or 4 are being prosecuted.
Misuse of public money in this country is endemic.
Indeed, finding someone using it the way they are supposed to is itself grounds for an enquiry into their sanity !
News flash:
Stanford climatologist Stephen Schneider dies at 65 – July 19, 2010
Stephen Schneider, the outspoken Stanford climatologist who has been on the front lines of the battle to address global warming for his entire career, died earlier today. Schneider was on his way from a meeting in Stockholm to London when he died of an apparent heart attack. He was 65.
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2010/07/stanford_climatologist_stephen.html
A sad loss to his family and friends – so I won’t comment further.
REPLY: It is always good to visit the WUWT home page and scroll first, but thanks, – Anthony
Hmmm … so the newsworthy revelation is that CRU agreed that they were a fair sample of the work of the Unit as the report stated, is substantively different from CRU’s Director agreed that they were a fair sample of the work of the Unit? Is that the point here? What am I missing? Jones was in charge at the time most the papers were written so did anyone seriously think he wasn’t involved?
The relevance of him temporarily standing aside pending his exoneration escapes me.
REPLY: Most anything relevant that might dampen the perceived purity escapes you Phil, but you are a cheerleader and we expect this of cheerleaders.
I’ll w r i t e | s l o w l y . P e r s o n | u n d e r | i n v e s t i g a t i o n | d o e s n ‘ t | g e t | t o | t a k e | p a r t | i n | t h e | i n v e s t i g a t i o n .
-Anthony
I think that what counts most here is how much these guys sincerely believe they are doing the right thing.
BTW: That is sarcasm, Sheldon
O.T.
But the DMI Arctic temperature graph is now showing the lowest temperature for this date in the record back to 1958.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
The Denialists continue to cavil. Why, who could be more expert on Phil Jones than Phil Jones? But let justice be seen to be done. I fearlessly call for a final independent inquiry by Greenpeace, PETA, and the geniuses who found a 2 metre sea level rise on low-lying Pacific islands but not on any of the rest of the world’s oceans.
When did they make the leap to fairy tales? Is there and exact point or was it from the beginning.
Wouldn’t it be better for all people if they stopped lying?
Beyond belief, even beyond parody.
I doubt any new student would want to sign on at UEA.
If this is the example they set, I wouldn’t employ one of their graduates.
The only way to lawfully relieve a Lord of their title is through an act of Parliament. The death sentence has been totally revoked. Even for treason.
Scientwists? Scientwits?
Hooray for the circus! Everyone loves the circus – and that includes the Merry Mouseketeers!
Away for the circus! Everyone join the circus as the old calliope rings in your ears!
There’ll be lovely harem dancers and the flyers on trapeze – and there are 2 weight lifters who lift anything with ease –
Come along and sing a song
And join the jamboree
CAP = you’ll feel it real soon!
TAX – why? because you were looking in the rearview!
Keeping the world Gorm-free, since Zero BC takes a global community!
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The British government is complicit in global warming ‘science’. This is more evidence that global warming is politics and not science.
The Founding Fathers of America put safeguards in place to stop things like this. That system may still have its say here. I don’t know what will come to the rescue of the Brits.
Don’t th inquirers understand that all a scientist’s papers should withstand scrutiny. I’m sure Bernie Madoff could have supplied accounts that made money for his clients for the prosecutor to consider and he would be back in business. A smart way to have proceeded would have been to throw out Phil’s selections and look at the rest. “Oh and Phil, pick up a couple of wide brushes at the hardware on your way over.”