I had to laugh. This sort of thing makes it entertaining. Two whole protesters in Brisbane. David Archibald and Bob Carter went down to have a look. These folks were part of Dr. Ove’s en masse protest he fomented on his Climate Shifts blog.
Jo Nova writes:
Sometimes there’s just no point. Do they think ad hominem is a spice in an Arabic dip? What can you say?
Just smile and go back to doing your damnedest to work for free so that they and their children might have a bit more freedom from tyranny and a bit more of their hard earned cash in their wallet. If you succeed, they’ll probably never thank you, but it’s still a job worth doing. Cheers!
Anthony Watts, and David Archibald will be speaking in Melbourne Tuesday night. Don’t miss your last chance to see the heroes of the grassroots independent scientists. Read my thoughts on Anthony and David. Get more info from the Climate Sceptics.
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For the record, the tour is funded by ticket, book, and DVD sales, with guarantors for expenses that are private individuals. There’s no corporations involved. It’s being done on a shoestring, just like my surfacestations project.
If there were fossil fuel companies pushing funds, do you think David Archibald, Bob Carter and I, would have spent that night at the Hotel George Williams in Brisbane? It’s just a short walk away from the Queensland Irish Club were the event was held. Check out the room. I stayed in one just like this there. The bargain rate for us “fossil fuelers”? $89AU

I’ve made forts out of refrigerator boxes as a kid that were bigger. Even the wide angle lens doesn’t help much.
Yeah “big oil” is funding us and we get crackerboxes. What a load of tosh, still funny though.
Oh, and after seeing the sign at the desk, a song from the Village People kept bouncing around in my head that night.
After watching Dr. Ove and his antics, it was comic relief.


Cool – the hotel booking feature suggests an arrival date of 110-6-22! That’s two Y2K bugs of that type I’ve seen this week. Oddly enough, clicking on the calendar icon I get a calendar for June 2010.
@Patrick Guinness, I’ll put my math and observation abilities against their computer models any day, regardless of their level and focus of their education. Having a doctorate doesn’t mean one can’t be wrong, it means it took them an awful long time to get a job and become useful and productive. To this day, some still haven’t and insist on making up fantasies like the rest of us did when we were about 10 y/o.
Oh yeah, that reminds me. At the ICCC, I was expecting a free gasoline card and maybe a gold plated cigarette holder in the goody bag. No such luck – I think some killjoy replaced them with a non-regulation size hockey stick (i.e. small enough to nearly fit in the bag), four DVDs, and a bunch of climate articles. I don’t need more
reading, I have more reading than I can keep up with! Gas cards? That’s something I could use!
pat says:
June 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm
“how quickly does the media jump in?”
True. But this one isn’t running with the lemmings; its a good critique of that study:
Science Mag: Eli Kintisch : Scientists ‘Convinced’ of Climate Consensus More Prominent Than Opponents, Says Paper
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/06/scientists-convinced-of-climate.html
You work on a shoestring, you have no government grants,you will never win the nobel prize,you will never receive a knighthood/CBE/OBE/KBE keys to and city and no honours from the UEA/royal society/nasa or benefit from any of the establishment buy off schemes.
Your hard work and selfless devotion to the truth and your almost impossible struggle against the well funded and powerful vested interest groups is a David and goliath battle against fanatical political establishmentarians who will stop at nothing to destroy you. The media either ignores you or twists your words or allows your enemies to poison your work.
Yet we who follow your efforts and those who contribute hold you in greater esteem than any so called hero of the establishment with their fake awards and false status as pimped by a corrupted media.
The true hero requires no nobel prize or buy off grant money, all the grant cash and fake awards in the world cannot and never will buy the truth.
Fight the good fight not because its easy or you will gain the passing gratitude of the clapping seals/establishment chatterati but because it is the right thing and the right thing was never easy nor should it be.
Thankyou for your efforts on my behalf.
I’m fairly sure I can provide empirical data to proove the existence of Ian Plimer.
Al Gored says:
June 21, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Al,
BP as being “the most dangerous oil company in the world” – ‘av a larf Mate! how about placing any of the next few way above BP or any of the majors for that matter:
PDVSA, Venzuela’s state oil Co; CNOC, China; Any from the list of Russian supergiants….etc…kill far more but bury the news.
Remember, the rig’s BOPs failed. The rig and it’s BOP stack was owned and maintained by Transocean. Who delivered a dividend recently. And are viewed as American as apple pie, even if they’re registered as Swiss (Halliburton are registered in Dubai, are they an Arabian Co?)
AleaJactaEst
AleaJactaEst says:
June 21, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Don’t blame the messenger. That was the title of the story… and its a little tabloidy to catch attention I guess. I just copied and pasted it… Its more about Mr. Hope and Change et al.
Here it is again:
“The Spill, The Scandal and the President The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years – and let the world’s most dangerous oil company get away with murder”
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965
I listened to the BBC this morning and laughed: “the sceptics have been proved wrong … there is a consensus …. a majority of experts(?) in the field agree than mankind is partly responsible for global warming”.
In other words, a majority agree that mankind isn’t the sole cause of the small upswing. A majority are not prepared to say: “this is the greatest disaster facing mankind”, a majority have retrenched to the basic physics that CO2 is a IR blocking gas so its increase ought to raise temperatures.
AND A MAJORITY CAN’T AGREE HOW MUCH!!!
This makes them a complete laughing stock. In real science, the longer you wait, the more evidence you get in, the tighter your error bars and so the more certain you are of the result. In climate “science” it is the opposite way around. The more real evidence that comes in the more apparent it is that they haven’t a clue what they are talking about and the wider the evidence forces the error bars until they are completely meaningless.
Ric Werme says:
” No such luck – I think some killjoy replaced them with a non-regulation size hockey stick (i.e. small enough to nearly fit in the bag)”
But was it carved from bristlecone pine or Yamal larch? That would be a keeper! Straight to the pool room!
Dont worry I get accused of being a corporate shill all the time. I always ask the accuser just which co Im supposed to be shilling for so I can send them a bill for my time heheheh.. 🙂
Mike Hassler,
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread?
I believe the whole ethos of alarmism is to bounce us into an ill thought out hasty and ill judged series of actions without stopping to consider the wider ramifications and waiting until more information can be gathered.
It certainly seems that the alarmist believers demand that we take a leap into the dark based on faith rather than reason and caution. The ethos demands with incresingly shrill urgency that we should not think but act without thinking. Rational and reasoned caution is missing replaced with a foolish desire to gamble with our very future based on kneejerk emotional frenzy.
The so-called study led by Mr Anderegg of Stanford University is nothing more than a fairly dim-witted attempt on the part of the authors to ‘be real scientists’. The study , if it were designed by Year 11 students at high schools in the UK would be failed by most teachers here who know a little about survey design. For the warmers to say that this study is anything more than what it is, a simplistic and badly-designed attempt to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, actually defines the low scientific standards accepted by the authors of the paper. And if it’s okay for a ‘computer support worker’ to be listed as a co-author on this paper, why do similar job titles on the sceptical side of the ledger become a minus in the authors’ estimation of ‘credibility’.
For me, Judith Curry’s slightly droll and understated comment about the study is right on the money – ‘unconvincing’ indeed!
Can I add my thanks to Anthony, the WUWT team and all those who share quality posts with the on-line community. A new piece of personal education every day!
Today I followed the links from Steve McIntyre’s Climate Audit to the Petition for Reconsideration by Peabody Energy Company.
I spent a good part of the day reading through it. I have been a “skeptic” for many years and aware of what has been going on.
The petition covers, mainly, the implications of the “climategate” emails and for me, brought the whole scam back into focus. The lawyers didn’t leave anything out !
James Sexton said above:- “Having a doctorate doesn’t mean one can’t be wrong,”
James, I would just add, “and is not a crook !”
I recommend the read,,,, maintain the rage !
I like Malcolm Chapman’s question to Mr. Watts. “Are you coming to England anytime soon?” I think it would be marvellous for our cause if Mr Watts could do a lecture tour across the UK. I see a friendly organisation arranging a series of high profile lectures/debates in the major cities across the UK , and as news from the UK is distributed and read more than from any other country worldwide, the publicity would be tremendously valuable. We could ensure that press coverage is distributed worldwide. We could invite support from people like Lord Lawson (no relation) and other high profile supporters. We might even invite the pro. lobby like AL Gore and Doctor Hanson!! The cost of course would be borne by the usual big business!!! but if that was not forthcoming, we could cover it by an appeal to bloggers and blog readers. I would like to hear the views of others and particularly of Mr., Watts himself.
Ironically, BP has in fact paid millions to lobbyists — to agitate for climate change legislation! They want the government to force us to buy their inefficient “green tech.” This is commonly known as “rent-seeking behavior” or “corporatism.”
I would bet dollars to doughnuts AGW alarmists have gotten more money from Big Oil than skeptics. In fact, I’ll bet they’ve gotten more than ten times as much.
timetochooseagain says:
June 21, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Why is it that nobody cries “Big Wind stooge!” or “Subsidy chaser!”? Surely these represent equally if not more serious corrupting influences.
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How about Big OIL Central Banker Shill? st
The political activists in favor of AGW are either very uninformed or have hidden agendas. They do not real care about AGW as long as it pushes their agenda ahead. Marxism and Socialism do not consider lying about the truth or the facts dishonorable if it will advance their cause.
John Dewey, Father of modern education in the USA stated:
“…There is no God and there is no soul. Hence, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also dead and buried. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes.” – (Rondald Nash, The Closing of the American Heart: What’s Really Wrong with America’s Schools, United States: Probe Books, 1990, 91)
So where did the current political push for the environmental/AGW originate? In Elaine Dewar wrote in Toronto’s Saturday Night magazine:
“It is instructive to read Strong’s 1972 Stockholm speech and compare it with the issues of Earth Summit 1992. Strong warned urgently about global warming, the devastation of forests, the loss of biodiversity, polluted oceans, the population time bomb. Then as now, he invited to the conference the brand-new environmental NGOs [non-governmental organizations]: he gave them money to come; they were invited to raise hell at home. After Stockholm, environment issues became part of the administrative framework in Canada, the U.S., Britain, and Europe.”
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg106963.html
So where does Maurice Strong stand as a CO2 emitter? Well if you thought Al Gore was a hypocrite, Strong has him topped by a mile. He is the biggest source of CO2 emissions in Canada!
“…Ontario Hydro, an industrial concern, headed by Earth Summit secretary general Maurice Strong, which is the biggest source of CO2 emissions in Canada. This corporation is currently selling nuclear reactors to Argentina and Chile…. “ (Remember Strong is also the one who had everyone anti-nuclear in the 70’s and 80’s) http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27/061.html
Strong’s life long ties to oil started in 1953 in Saudi Arabia where he worked for the Rockefellers. At age 29 he became president of Power Corporation, he has served as president of energy companies such as Petro-Canada and Ontario Hydro, and was on the board of industrial giant Toyota. In 1981 he had moved on to Denver as oil promoter AZL Resources with arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. He is a huge political donor, not just in Canada, but in the USA to both the Republican and Democratic parties. Strong sits on boards with the Rockefellers, Mikhail Gorbachev and chairs private meetings of CEOs, including Bill Gates. He hobnobs with the world’s royalty, with dictators and despots. He is Senior Advisor to the World Bank too. http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/HTML/Maurice-Strong/article1.html
So what are Strong’s actually thoughts on Western economic success?
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong
http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_societies/Groups/DAVOS/davos.htm
And what is Strong doing now?
Maurice Strong is in Beijing China working for CH2M Hill.
CH2M Hill, is “an employee-owned multinational firm providing engineering, construction, operations and related services to public and private clients in numerous industries on six continents. CH2M HILL offers integrated services that help …”
Strong is on the board of directors of the Chicago Climate Exchange, so this is the dude Al Gore and Obama (board of directors – Joyce Foundation) were in business with a when they formed the Chicago Carbon Exchange. “The largest shareholder in the Exchange is Goldman Sachs. Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley is its honorary chairman, The Joyce Foundation, which funded the Exchange also funded money for John Ayers’ Chicago School Initiatives. John is the brother of William Ayers.”
So how dare these people claim that Anthony Watts and the rest of us skeptics are “funded by Big Oil” when they have these rich unscrupulous hypocrites as their leaders!
I want to know what we are supposed to use instead of oil? Planes, trains and tract0r-trailer trucks don’t run on wind, or solar or electricity. Neither do our passenger vehicles nor does farm equipment.
Wind and solar can be used to generate electricity. This may reduce our use of coal and natural gas, but it won’t make much difference in oil. A good portion of the oil we import also goes to manufacturing as raw materials for plastics and related products.
Of course Anthony has little credibility until he’s able to charge $2000 a plate to speak at a dinner, where press and recording devices are banned. 😉
Lovely suite at the hotel, btw. They are so much more spacious with LCD TV.
Jimmy Haigh says:
June 21, 2010 at 6:01 pm
“Are they ‘saving the whales’ or is it ‘the whole in the ozone layer’ that they are worried about?”
Here is Monckton clearing that up with Green”Peace”;
I think its the TIPPING POINT. Beware of the TIPPING POINT!
Well this is about as good a place as any to put this:-
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.abstract
So it appears to be a study by the NAS, as in National Academies of Science; but it also appears to contain NO science at all; but is as ad hominem attack on any who disagree with the MMGWCC that the NAS promulgates; in order to continue the government research funding gravy train.
The article also has the temerity to certify that the authors have no conflict of interest.
So there’s Dr Stephen H. Schneider of Stanford; the very epitome of a conflict of interest; trying to defend the indefensible; his invention of “Climate Sensitivity”, without which, there would be no need for all of these statistical mathematicians who swill at the public trough fed by “Climate change” propaganda.
But isn’t it odd that the NAS would put out an article which is nothing but an ad hominem argument against those who disagree with their view of the science of climate; and not say anything at all, about that science that is the material under dispute.
And for Schneider to claim to be without conflict of interest, is at best laughable.
But check it out; I have a ticket to the full paper; but I am not planning to read it; since it contains no climate science.
3 signs, and 2 protesters… I guess they were hoping to recruit some more.
Some slightly embarrassed environmental activist NGO’s around nowadays. I had to smile reading the Economists’ description of green groups fleeing BP’s largess in panic.
http://www.economist.com/node/16274145?story_id=16274145
“The website of one such NGO, the Nature Conservancy, has been bombarded with complaints from donors horrified by the discovery (although it had never hidden the fact) that over the years it had received around $10m in gifts of cash and land from BP”
Sceptics don’t see much (or any!) oil money but green groups sure do.
More on Oil or Big Oil
Doctor Cho is Sec of energy. It is clear that BP will save the world. Save the environment. Sock puppets will say great things if you feed them money.
Looks like big Green has been feeding at the Big Oil trough.
Anthony, if you saw hotel rooms I’ve spent weeks on when travelling in Bolivia, at $3.00 the night (my Exxon budget didn’t allow more than that), you’d shoot your brains out before entering those “hotels”.