I had to laugh. This sort of thing makes it entertaining. Two whole protesters in Brisbane. David Archibald and Bob Carter went down to have a look. These folks were part of Dr. Ove’s en masse protest he fomented on his Climate Shifts blog.
Jo Nova writes:
Sometimes there’s just no point. Do they think ad hominem is a spice in an Arabic dip? What can you say?
Just smile and go back to doing your damnedest to work for free so that they and their children might have a bit more freedom from tyranny and a bit more of their hard earned cash in their wallet. If you succeed, they’ll probably never thank you, but it’s still a job worth doing. Cheers!
Anthony Watts, and David Archibald will be speaking in Melbourne Tuesday night. Don’t miss your last chance to see the heroes of the grassroots independent scientists. Read my thoughts on Anthony and David. Get more info from the Climate Sceptics.
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For the record, the tour is funded by ticket, book, and DVD sales, with guarantors for expenses that are private individuals. There’s no corporations involved. It’s being done on a shoestring, just like my surfacestations project.
If there were fossil fuel companies pushing funds, do you think David Archibald, Bob Carter and I, would have spent that night at the Hotel George Williams in Brisbane? It’s just a short walk away from the Queensland Irish Club were the event was held. Check out the room. I stayed in one just like this there. The bargain rate for us “fossil fuelers”? $89AU
I’ve made forts out of refrigerator boxes as a kid that were bigger. Even the wide angle lens doesn’t help much.
Yeah “big oil” is funding us and we get crackerboxes. What a load of tosh, still funny though.
Oh, and after seeing the sign at the desk, a song from the Village People kept bouncing around in my head that night.
After watching Dr. Ove and his antics, it was comic relief.
If the Hellfire Club is still there you will probably catch 2 or 3 copies of all the Village People there… Now I am going to have to remove the YMCA ditty from my head, thank goodness for the Adamms Family. That always works.
Perhaps one day greenies will explain to us why digging up fossil fuels is ‘evil’ yet digging up copper, iron, aluminium and other ores then smelting and processing them to build windmills and solar collectors is environmentally ‘good’ ?
You have to refuse to stay in any room that has orange in the decor. It can leave permanent neuronal damage!
Are those…orange pumpkins on Dr. Archibald’s tie, with a striped shirt? You see, it is already taking effect!
“”rbateman says:
June 21, 2010 at 3:41 pm
The best foot never came forward on this whole thing.””
I think it did, it reminded every person that saw it “let no crisis go to waste”
Ove is a self-interested numbskull, feathering his own nest.
http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au/stories/201006/2931322.htm?desktop
The warmists own the ABC now, but come the revolution…
Oil
Follow the money
BP hires Podesta group to do its lobbying and PR => John and Tony Podesta own Podesta group => Podesta (john) owns Center for American Progress AND Climate Progress.
Looks like Joe Romm is much better connected with big oil and wouldn’t need to stretch the dollars and stay in such a small roadhouse motel.
So oil money has contaminated the Progressive blogs. Joe Romm is the beneficiarry of BP and big Oil monie$
From what recepticle and onto what surface has the gulf oil ‘spill’ been spilt ? The thing is an underwater gusher or leak.
jeef says:
June 21, 2010 at 3:37 pm
“A caption competition would be in order. What slogans should they have on those banners? Anyone good at photoshop?”
How’s this?
“What do we want? YOUR WALLET!
“When do we want it? NOW!
Or this.
“Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho!
We don’t need your ROTTEN SNOW!!!
Nice room! Swank Orange decor……Gotta love that Eco approved 17 in flat screen! And the free instant coffee fixins. Lux, baby.
I like “blowout.”
What hope has Australia got for a balanced debate on any scientific issue when the head of the country’s scientific research body (CSIRO) is a banker without a scientific bone in his body.
As ACM puts it http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/ ….’clueless on climate’.
He of course has clearly told his team where he wants the CSIRO to stand….”But the point is, why wouldn’t one take out very strong insurance to at least do what we can to future-proof our well-being? I think it’s a no-brainer.”…..
Is this science or banking?
Anthony sorry we missed you ,K Rudd and P Wong we will catch up with you next year .as we will have more time on our hands as we will not be running the government
So who are all those people anyway.
The lady looks like her own environmental disaster.
And yes how does one tap into this big oil money; it appears that you have to be either a tough guy from Chicaga and simply threaten folks if they don’t come across; or even a politician.
Anthony, I have contributed to your surface stations project but is there any way that I can make a modest contribution to your general expenses fund. You are doing such sterling work and I feel that I should not ride on the back of this movement without making some kind of contribution. I’m not big oil though I’m afraid.
[Reply: If you put this request into Tips & Notes, or in Contact, Anthony is more likely to see it. ~dbs, mod.]
“Two whole protesters in Brisbane. ”
Are they ‘saving the wholes’ or is it ‘the whole in the ozone layer’ that they are worried about?
“Do they think ad hominem is a spice in an Arabic dip?”
I thought ad hominem was just a latin translation of an old Southern recipe in which you are told to “add hominey.” 😉
another poll to add to the krosnick/stanford one:
Benenson Strategy Group – Poll
Consequently, there is a huge margin of support for an energy bill that would “limit pollution, invest in domestic energy sources and encourage companies to use and develop clean energy. It would do this in part by charging energy companies for carbon pollution in electricity or fuels like gas.”
Overall, 63% of likely 2010 voters support it and just 29% are opposed.
http://lcv-ftp.org/LCV/2000cew.pdf
(full details) June 2010: Politico: Poll for League of Conservation Voters
by Benenson Strategy Group
Oil Spill and Energy Bill Update
The Senate may soon debate an energy bill that will limit pollution, invest in domestic energy sources and encourage companies to use and develop clean energy. It would do this in part by charging energy companies for carbon pollution in electricity or fuels like gas. Would you say you strongly support this bill, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose this bill?
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM130_jb.html
Why is it that nobody cries “Big Wind stooge!” or “Subsidy chaser!”? Surely these represent equally if not more serious corrupting influences.
How come there isn’t an effort made for all the big oil companies to get in there and do cleanup?
Like they do for fires: Interagency co-operation.
George E. Smith says:
June 21, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Truth is: We need oil to just keep what we have going. It will take decades to switch energy sources and generation.
If Big Oil goes down in the US, we go down with it. The days of a food supply spread across the nation with railroad transportation web are long gone. Look at your grocery shelves. Imports are taking over, as Obama promised.
Big Oil will either feed us, or it will feed somebody else.
What’s it going to be?
well, this settles it then!!!
21 June: Vancouver Sun: Mike De Souza: Study questions credentials of climate-change skeptics
The hundreds of academics who sign warnings for politicians to delay action on slashing greenhouse gas emissions do not have the same expertise as those who say human activity is causing global warming, says a new study to be released Tuesday in the Proceedings of the U.S. National Academy of Scientists…
The paper was authored by William Anderegg, a graduate student at Stanford University’s biology department, along with Jacob Harold, Stephen Schneider and Prall, in order to compare the discrepancy between mainstream media coverage of controversies or debates about global warming with the actual research in scientific journals…
The 1,372 academics were selected from scientific assessment reports as well as the prominent multisignatory public statements in support or against the mainstream theory. That list was then reduced to 908 researchers who had published at least 20 peer-reviewed papers on climate change science.
But the study found that the academics supporting the evidence that humans are causing global warming were more likely to be climate change scientists doing extensive research while the skeptics had produced less evidence to back up their claims. For example, more than 90 per cent of the climate scientists who supported the evidence had each published more than 20 peer-reviewed papers while about 80 per cent of the skeptics had published less than that amount…
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Study+questions+credentials+climate+change+skeptics/3183069/story.html
how quickly does the media jump in?
Union of Concerned Scientists: New Study Reaffirms Scientific Consensus on Climate Change
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/study-scientific-consensus-climate-change-411.html
Time: Michael Lemonick: Who’s the Climate Expert Here?
So the experts agree that climate change is a real; the people who think it isn’t tend not to be experts. But will that actually sway the public?
http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/06/21/349/
Science Mag: Eli Kintisch : Scientists ‘Convinced’ of Climate Consensus More Prominent Than Opponents, Says Paper
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/06/scientists-convinced-of-climate.html
Guardian: Why don’t we trust climate scientists?New study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences reveals huge disparities in the ‘relative scientific credibility’ of the opposing sides of the climate change debate
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/jun/21/trust-climate-scientists
pat says:
June 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm
well, this settles it then!!!
That settles where the $$$ has been awarded/going all these years: To Global Warming researchers.
Oh, and that’s why the climate change (nee AGW) researchers published more peer-reviewed papers: no competition.
My, how statistics can be bought.
Dr A Burns
ROFL couldnt agree more. And when these windmills can be up to 40 stories tall there is a lot of concrete and metal in them all to produce grossly inefficient subsidized power
Henry Chance say: “Oil Follow the money BP hires Podesta group to do its lobbying and PR => John and Tony Podesta own Podesta group => Podesta (john) owns Center for American Progress AND Climate Progress.”
John Podesta selected BO’s transition team, picked his senior white house staff, found his cabinet members and got all his Czars for him.
Tony and John Podesta’s other client in their lobbying firm is NBC Universal, which is owned by GE, which owns the Smart Grid technology that CA just passed a law setting it in place.
Follow the money goes even higher than the Podestas, all the money comes from George Soros’ support for the Center for American Progress. Last fall, I think, George Soros invested $900 million in PetroBras (Brazil’s govt owned, very profitable oil company). Several days later, the Obama admin guarantees a $2Billion dollar loan or loan guarantee to PetroBras (if they are so profitable why do I have to guarantee loans to them?) The moritorium on all oil drilling in the gulf is for deep water drilling, deep water defined as 500 ft. Deep Water Horizion was drilling in 5, 000 ft and PetroBras will be drilling in up to 14, 022 ft or maybe that is meters, cannot remember. That doesn’t matter, but the point is we stopped all drilling because it is too risky, but we support drilling elsewhere that is deeper and riskier. And for whom? George Soros’ shareholders and the Brazilian govt. If oil is so bad to the Progressives, why support it anywhere? Such hypocrites.
When the oil drilling rigs get rented and moved to other countries and the oil rig workers lose $330m/mo in wages, and 67,000 out of work in LA, and we won’t be able to get the rigs back for years and years, our economy and the domestic oil industry will be ruined. George Soros will be making millions on his investment helped along by his puppet administration.
Follow the money is right.