
Guest posting by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
Anthony Watts’ earlier posting about Margaret Thatcher’s sceptical approach to the climate question prompted some comments asking whether I could add anything to the story, since I gave her advice on science as well as other policy from 1982-1986, two years before the IPCC was founded.
First, what on Earth was a layman with a degree in classical languages and architecture doing giving advice on science to the British Prime Minister, who was herself a scientist and a Fellow of the Royal Society?
Truth is, British government is small (though still a lot bigger and more expensive than it need be). The Prime Minister’s policy unit had just six members, and, as a mathematician who was about to make a goodish fortune turning an obscure and hitherto-unnoticed wrinkle in the principles of probabilistic combinatorics into a pair of world best-selling puzzles, I was the only one who knew any science.
So, faute de mieux, it was I who – on the Prime Minister’s behalf – kept a weather eye on the official science advisors to the Government, from the Chief Scientific Advisor downward. On my first day in the job, I tottered into Downing Street dragging with me one of the world’s first portable computers, the 18-lb Osborne 1, with a 5” screen, floppy disks that were still truly floppy, and a Z80 8-bit chip which I had learned to program in machine language as well as BASIC.
This was the first computer they had ever seen in Downing Street. The head of security, a bluff military veteran, was deeply suspicious. “What do you want a computer for?” he asked. “Computing,” I replied.
I worked that weighty little box hard. It did everything: converting opinion-poll percentages to predictions of Parliamentary seats won and lost (we predicted the result of the 1983 General Election to within 1 seat); demonstrating a new type of index-linked home loan that removed the inflationary front-loading of interest payments and made it easier for working people to buy the State-owned houses they lived in (we sold a million, and turned cringing clients of the State into proud homeowners with a valuable stake in Britain); and calculating the optimum hull configuration for warships to prove that a government department had defrauded a lone inventor (he got $1 million in compensation).
The tiny computer back-engineered the Social Security Department’s model that showed the impact of changes in tax and benefit rates on different types of family; discounted Cabinet Ministers’ policies to present value to appraise their viability as investments; and worked out how much extra revenue the Government would get if it cut the top rate of income tax from 60 cents on the dollar to 40 cents.
On that one, I was right and the Treasury were wrong: as I had calculated, the rich ended up paying not only more tax but a higher percentage of total tax, even though the top tax rate they had previously paid was 50% higher than the new rate.
The only expenses I ever claimed for in four years at 10 Downing Street were £172 for soldering dry joints on that overworked computer, on which I also did the first elementary radiative-transfer calculations that indicated climate scientists were right to say some “global warming” would arise as CO2 concentration continued to climb.
I briefed my colleagues in the Policy Unit, and also the Prime Minister herself. My advice was straightforward: CO2 concentrations were rising, we were causing it, and it would cause some warming, but at that time no one knew how much (plus ca change), so we needed to find out.
The Prime Minister’s response was equally hard-headed: we were to keep an eye on the problem and come back to her again when action was necessary.
Did she even mention that “global warming” presented an opportunity to give nuclear power a push and, at the same time, to do down the coal-miners who had destroyed a previous Conservative government and had also tried to destroy hers?
Certainly not, for four compelling reasons.
First, nuclear power was politically dead at that time, following the monumentally stupid attempt by the Soviet operators of the Chernobyl nuclear reactor to shut it down without external power just because they were curious to see what would happen.
Secondly, by then the mineworkers, under their Communist leadership, had long been defeated, and we were making arrangements for the deep, dangerous, loss-making coal-mines that had killed so many brave pitmen to be shut down and replaced with safer, profitable, opencast mines.
Two mineworkers came to my farewell party at 10 Downing Street: the first miners ever to enter Downing Street during a Conservative administration.
Thirdly, Margaret Thatcher was never vindictive: it simply was not in her nature. If any of us ever suggested taking any action that would unfairly disadvantage any of her political opponents, she would give us the Gazillion-Gigawatt Glare and say, very firmly and quietly, “Prime Ministers don’t, dear!”
Fourthly, she had an unusual mind that effortlessly spanned CP Snow’s Two Cultures.
As a former food chemist, she possessed the ruthlessly honest logic of the true scientist. As a former barrister, she had the vigor and articulacy of the true practitioner of the forensic arts. Too many scientists today are in effect politicians: too many politicians pretend to be scientific.
Margaret Thatcher was genuinely both scientist and politician, and was able to take the best from both roles without confusing them. She would not have dreamed of doing anything that in any way undermined the integrity of science.
A little vignette will illustrate her scientific integrity. In the late 1970s, a year before she won the first of her three General Elections and became Britain’s first woman Prime Minister, I had sent her a tiny piece of propaganda that I had designed, the Labour Pound.
The little slip of paper bore this simple message: “This is a Labour Pound. This is how small your banknote would be today if it had been shrunk to match the fall in its value under Labour. Vote Conservative!”
Margaret Thatcher noticed at once that the piece of paper was a little too small. Inflation had been bad under the Labour Government (at the time it was running at 27% a year), but not that bad. “Do it again and get it right and be fair,” she said. Humbled, I did as I was told – and tens of millions of Labour Pounds were distributed throughout Britain at the subsequent General Election, to satisfyingly devastating effect.
In 1988 it was my successor at No. 10, George Guise, who traveled one bitterly cold October weekend down to Chequers, the Prime Minister’s country house, and sat in front of a roaring fire writing the speech that would announce a government subsidy to the Royal Society to establish what would become the Hadley Centre for Forecasting.
George remembers how he and the Prime Minister chuckled at the irony of writing a speech about “global warming” on an evening so cold that he could hardly hold his pen.
But that’s October for you: a couple of years ago the scientific illiterates who now inhabit the House of Commons voted for the Climate Change and National Economic Hara-Kiri Bill by one of the largest majorities in Parliament’s history, with only three gallant MPs having the courage to defy the Whips and vote against – and this on the very night that the first October snow in 74 years fell in Parliament Square.
In due course, the scientific results began to arrive. It became as clear to Margaret Thatcher as it has to me that our original concern was no longer necessary. The warming effect of CO2 is simply too small to make much difference and, in any event, it is orders of magnitude cheaper and more cost-effective to adapt to any consequences of “global warming” than to wreck the economies of the West by trying to demonize CO2 and cut our emissions.
Margaret Thatcher was very conscious that the Left tries to taint every aspect of life by attempting to politicize it.
In her thinking, therefore, there is genuine outrage that the coalescence of financial and political vested-interest factions in the scientific and academic community that are driving the climate scare should be striving to bring the age of enlightenment and reason to an end by treating scientific debate as though every question were a political football to be kicked Leftward.
In the elegant words of my good friend Bob Ferguson of the Science and Public Policy Institute, she is interested not in “policy-based evidence-making” but in “evidence-based policy-making”. The present crop of politicians on both sides of the Atlantic could learn much from her honest, forthright, no-nonsense approach.
Margaret Thatcher: the world’s first climate realist
by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
Anthony Watts’ earlier posting about Margaret Thatcher’s sceptical approach to the climate question prompted some comments asking whether I could add anything to the story, since I gave her advice on science as well as other policy from 1982-1986, two years before the IPCC was founded.
First, what on Earth was a layman with a degree in classical languages and architecture doing giving advice on science to the British Prime Minister, who was herself a scientist and a Fellow of the Royal Society?
Truth is, British government is small (though still a lot bigger and more expensive than it need be). The Prime Minister’s policy unit had just six members, and, as a mathematician who was about to make a goodish fortune turning an obscure and hitherto-unnoticed wrinkle in the principles of probabilistic combinatorics into a pair of world best-selling puzzles, I was the only one who knew any science.
So, faute de mieux, it was I who – on the Prime Minister’s behalf – kept a weather eye on the official science advisors to the Government, from the Chief Scientific Advisor downward. On my first day in the job, I tottered into Downing Street dragging with me one of the world’s first portable computers, the 18-lb Osborne 1, with a 5” screen, floppy disks that were still truly floppy, and a Z80 8-bit chip which I had learned to program in machine language as well as BASIC.
This was the first computer they had ever seen in Downing Street. The head of security, a bluff military veteran, was deeply suspicious. “What do you want a computer for?” he asked. “Computing,” I replied.
I worked that weighty little box hard. It did everything: converting opinion-poll percentages to predictions of Parliamentary seats won and lost (we predicted the result of the 1983 General Election to within 1 seat); demonstrating a new type of index-linked home loan that removed the inflationary front-loading of interest payments and made it easier for working people to buy the State-owned houses they lived in (we sold a million, and turned cringing clients of the State into proud homeowners with a valuable stake in Britain); and calculating the optimum hull configuration for warships to prove that a government department had defrauded a lone inventor (he go $1 million in compensation).
The tiny computer back-engineered the Social Security Department’s model that showed the impact of changes in tax and benefit rates on different types of family; discounted Cabinet Ministers’ policies to present value to appraise their viability as investments; and worked out how much extra revenue the Government would get if it cut the top rate of income tax from 60 cents on the dollar to 40 cents.
On that one, I was right and the Treasury were wrong: as I had calculated, the rich ended up paying not only more tax but a higher percentage of total tax, even though the top tax rate they had previously paid was 50% higher than the new rate.
The only expenses I ever claimed for in four years at 10 Downing Street were £172 for soldering dry joints on that overworked computer, on which I also did the first elementary radiative-transfer calculations that indicated climate scientists were right to say some “global warming” would arise as CO2 concentration continued to climb.
I briefed my colleagues in the Policy Unit, and also the Prime Minister herself. My advice was straightforward: CO2 concentrations were rising, we were causing it, and it would cause some warming, but at that time no one knew how much (plus ca change), so we needed to find out.
The Prime Minister’s response was equally hard-headed: we were to keep an eye on the problem and come back to her again when action was necessary.
Did she even mention that “global warming” presented an opportunity to give nuclear power a push and, at the same time, to do down the coal-miners who had destroyed a previous Conservative government and had also tried to destroy hers?
Certainly not, for four compelling reasons.
First, nuclear power was politically dead at that time, following the monumentally stupid attempt by the Soviet operators of the Chernobyl nuclear reactor to shut it down without external power just because they were curious to see what would happen.
Secondly, by then the mineworkers, under their Communist leadership, had long been defeated, and we were making arrangements for the deep, dangerous, loss-making coal-mines that had killed so many brave pitmen to be shut down and replaced with safer, profitable, opencast mines.
Two mineworkers came to my farewell party at 10 Downing Street: the first miners ever to enter Downing Street during a Conservative administration.
Thirdly, Margaret Thatcher was never vindictive: it simply was not in her nature. If any of us ever suggested taking any action that would unfairly disadvantage any of her political opponents, she would give us the Gazillion-Gigawatt Glare and say, very firmly and quietly, “Prime Ministers don’t, dear!”
Fourthly, she had an unusual mind that effortlessly spanned CP Snow’s Two Cultures.
As a former food chemist, she possessed the ruthlessly honest logic of the true scientist. As a former barrister, she had the vigor and articulacy of the true practitioner of the forensic arts. Too many scientists today are in effect politicians: too many politicians pretend to be scientific.
Margaret Thatcher was genuinely both scientist and politician, and was able to take the best from both roles without confusing them. She would not have dreamed of doing anything that in any way undermined the integrity of science.
A little vignette will illustrate her scientific integrity. In the late 1970s, a year before she won the first of her three General Elections and became Britain’s first woman Prime Minister, I had sent her a tiny piece of propaganda that I had designed, the Labour Pound.
The little slip of paper bore this simple message: “This is a Labour Pound. This is how small your banknote would be today if it had been shrunk to match the fall in its value under Labour. Vote Conservative!”
Margaret Thatcher noticed at once that the piece of paper was a little too small. Inflation had been bad under the Labour Government (at the time it was running at 27% a year), but not that bad. “Do it again and get it right and be fair,” she said. Humbled, I did as I was told – and tens of millions of Labour Pounds were distributed throughout Britain at the subsequent General Election, to satisfyingly devastating effect.
In 1988 it was my successor at No. 10, George Guise, who traveled one bitterly cold October weekend down to Chequers, the Prime Minister’s country house, and sat in front of a roaring fire writing the speech that would announce a government subsidy to the Royal Society to establish what would become the Hadley Centre for Forecasting.
George remembers how he and the Prime Minister chuckled at the irony of writing a speech about “global warming” on an evening so cold that he could hardly hold his pen.
But that’s October for you: a couple of years ago the scientific illiterates who now inhabit the House of Commons voted for the Climate Change and National Economic Hara-Kiri Bill by one of the largest majorities in Parliament’s history, with only three gallant MPs having the courage to defy the Whips and vote against – and this on the very night that the first October snow in 74 years fell in Parliament Square.
In due course, the scientific results began to arrive. It became as clear to Margaret Thatcher as it has to me that our original concern was no longer necessary. The warming effect of CO2 is simply too small to make much difference and, in any event, it is orders of magnitude cheaper and more cost-effective to adapt to any consequences of “global warming” than to wreck the economies of the West by trying to demonize CO2 and cut our emissions.
Margaret Thatcher was very conscious that the Left tries to taint every aspect of life by attempting to politicize it.
In her thinking, therefore, there is genuine outrage that the coalescence of financial and political vested-interest factions in the scientific and academic community that are driving the climate scare should be striving to bring the age of enlightenment and reason to an end by treating scientific debate as though every question were a political football to be kicked Leftward.
In the elegant words of my good friend Bob Ferguson of the Science and Public Policy Institute, she is interested not in “policy-based evidence-making” but in “evidence-based policy-making”. The present crop of politicians on both sides of the Atlantic could learn much from her honest, forthright, no-nonsense approach.
Christopher, thou modern Tully,… you could sell Stalin back to the Russians, you’re that good. On that account, people should worry that they agree with you. But if Thatcher wants to make amends, she should should write her own guest post.
Nick Stokes says:
June 16, 2010 at 6:54 pm
James Sexton
Lord M’s claim is that she was “the world’s first climate realist“. Sounds like you’re claiming priority.
Naw, I’m a skeptic but also an idealist. But even then, I couldn’t claim to be the first.
Change of weather is the discourse of fools.
– Thomas Fuller
But even before that,
“He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap.”
But for the recent history, my father was before me. Thank God he isn’t here today to see the state of the Union and the world.
Monckton is a right wing fantasist. Margaret Thatcher was a relatively rare creature in nature, the female psychopath, and there are millions of people waiting to dance on her grave.
She is also absolutely reponsible for the politicisation of the global warming scam. Her speech at the UN and the establishment of the Hadley centre and the appointment of environmentalists Sir John Houghton and Phil Jones. She turned Britain into a post industrial banking fiefdom, and that is a big clue as to what is happening.
Thatcher was selected as party because her husband Dennis was a director of Burmah oil. Big American oil interests loved the war against coal (and the unions). Norman Tebbit stood aside to let her run. There is absolutely zero chance the tories would have elected a woman in the 1970s without some ulterior motive. Women hardly even drove cars in the UK then (if a man was available).
The prime movers and shakers of AGW have been oil and gas people. Margaret Thatcher (Burmah), Ken Lay (Enron), Al Gore (Occidental Oil), Pauchuri (indian Oil Corp).
Monckton simply does not want to face up to that fact. It doesn’t suit his (slightly outdated) anti communist agenda.
The biggest lobbying group at Copenhagen was the International Emissions Trading Association which was created to promote carbon trading more than ten years ago.
Its members include :-
BP, Conoco Philips, Shell, E.ON (coal power stations owner), EDF (one of the largest participants in the global coal market), Gazprom (Russian oil and gas), Goldman Sachs, Barclays, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley..
http://www.ieta.org/ieta/www/pages/index.php?IdSiteTree=1249
I liked the world better when Reagan/Thatcher were bringing down the Evil Socialist Empire with clear thinking.
Margaret Thatcher must have paid attention to Eisenhower’s warning about the politicization of science.
Robert,
You’re right, I was wrong about Monckton in the ’07 debate. Got him confused with Crichton. Which is even worse from your POV, I suppose.
Here’s another account of that debate. I notice that Gavin Schmidt blamed his loss on the fact that he’s short and Crichton is tall. As if. Same excuse Jimmuh Carter’s people used following his 1980 debate loss with Reagan.
Christoph says:
June 16, 2010 at 7:11 pm
“But he was in Saudi Arabia and all, and I’m sure Barack Obama felt pretty emotional.”
lol, alright, I understand, I’d note, that I don’t address him as lord, either. It’s just something my beliefs and heritage doesn’t allow for. Still, if the Brits wish to continue the peerage, I’m not indignant about it, let it go through. Further, from my perspective, Mr. Monckton is a Viscount, which makes him a truer part of the peerage than any one elected. But that’s just my perspective.
After further research, and with great apology, thanks for the Thatcher guest post. I guess I haven’t been keeping up on aging political figures.
Long live Maggie,the only politician in my 68 year old lifetime for whom I have had a nickles’ worth of respect. Did have about 4 cents worth for Reagan, though.
I have no doubt that Thatcher played both sides. What politician at any degree of higher level doesn’t do that? They rise to that level because they played both sides. Politicians cannot rise to significant power in voting republics and democracies by playing only to their niche.
@ur momisugly Smokey: I am not sure how actuate your quote is, so I will withhold judgment. It is a little hard to believe she would express herself so crudely. However, she was concerned that measures to confront global environmental problems should be consistent with capitalism. (I pointed this out before:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/14/was-margaret-thatcher-the-first-climate-sceptic/#comment-409225 .) This does not effect the science behind human CO2 emissions and climate change.
@ur momisuglyJim: What is your point? My point is that climatology is not some left-wing conspiracy since there are some brave prominent conservatives who acknowledge the science even if they debate solutions. I don’t claim to know what the solution is. Had we addressed this problem in the 1990s we be in a much better position to sort out what might work from measures that are ineffective or counter productive.
Derek B says: “Anthony, given the near total demolition of Monckton’s credibility handed out by John Abraham (http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/), letting the laird flaunt his wit on WUWT does not enhance the blog’s reputation for accuracy and fairness.”
Argument ad hominem. FAIL. Next.
I’ll take that since Lord M, has actually programmed RTE’s and concluded that increasing C02 will increase temperatures ( they wont cool the planet) that all the folks who chastise me for making the same argument will now take up the matter with him.
Increasing GHGs will increase the earth temperature. Lord M, Christy, Spenser, Lindzen concur on this. The issue is how much.
Monckton created a computer model which produced a prediction. The prediction was then compared with subsequent observation.
No wonder he is decried as an eccentric charlatan. His absurd ideas could never be tolerated in climatology.
“”since there are some brave prominent conservatives who acknowledge the science””
Trying to paint a picture there Mike? There’s also some lame unknown conservatives too. And even some brave prominent liberals that don’t buy it at all.
“”Had we addressed this problem in the 1990s””
No one has established that there really is a tangible problem yet.
I always wondered how Monckton became Thatcher’s science advisor. Now I see it’s due to him having been self-labeled a “mathematician” based on the best selling puzzles he would create over a decade after leaving his post with Thatcher. That explains a lot.
In any case, I share the opinion of those posters above who have already stated this post by Monckton does nothing to support the claim that WUWT a “science” site. And while I think John Abraham did a fine job of destroying any remaining credibility Monckton might have had, the final blow was dealt by the man himself in his response to Abraham’s critique (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/monckton-at-last-the-climate-extremists-try-to-debate-us-pjm-exclusive/):
“John Abraham, a lecturer in fluid mechanics at a Bible college in Minnesota, has recently issued — and widely disseminated — a hilariously mendacious 83-minute attempted rebuttal of a speech I delivered about the climate last October in St. Paul, Minnesota. So unusual is this attempt actually to meet us in argument, and so venomously ad hominem are Abraham’s artful puerilities, delivered in a nasal and irritatingly matey tone (at least we are spared his face — he looks like an overcooked prawn), that climate-extremist bloggers everywhere have circulated them and praised them to the warming skies.”
While one could easily imagine this paragraph ripped from a Monty Python script, these are not the words of a scientist.
Mike says:
June 16, 2010 at 8:02 pm
“Had we addressed this problem in the 1990s we be in a much better position ….”
My perspective is, had we understood in the 1990s that it wasn’t/isn’t a problem we’d be in a much better position today.
We still haven’t shown how even if we raise our global temp that the doom and gloom predicted would happen. I maintain that all of the proposed cures have caused and will cause more harm than the alleged disease. Look around, we’re killing humans to save humanity! It is the self imposed lack of availability of energy that is causing strife in the world. Energy in the forms of food, oil, and coal. We could replace some of that with nuclear power, but we’ve chosen a windmill instead. That alone should show the genuineness of their concern. A windmill. A cost that no one can afford, combined the with consistency, literally, of the wind which causes a redundancy of the power grid to tax the earth of resources in terms of copper, steel, bauxite and natural gas(all of which causes large emissions of CO2) in order to save the earth’s resources. It’s almost as ridiculous as turning food sources into gasoline……..oh, wait…… 😐
Better position? We’d be in a much better position today if it were never mentioned. First it was cold that man created then it was the hot, now it is the hot and cold or the cold and hot and the rain and droughts and floods and hurricanes that man created. Each and every event causes a law to be passed that constricts the freedom of man and his enterprise. What is there to gain if we lose man’s freedom and enterprise? Next, tornadoes in Kansas. Simplistic, ideological buffoons.
I also grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and was never a fan of Thatcher.
As for Moncktons account of his time as advisor, he was just an advisor. This doesn’t mean he was privvy to everything Thatcher thought or did, so I have no reason to disbelieve him, I believe it’s an honest account.
As for Thatchers motives regards Global Warming, I still prefer to believe the version that says she didn’t trust the Arabs or the Russians for energy supply and wanted to bring Nuclear back on the agenda to secure the long term energy needs of the UK.
She was proven correct, the Russians proved their worth by cutting gas supplies and the middle east crisis has no end. Nuclear is well and truly on the agenda.
Unfortunately, the hard line Greens have since hijacked the agenda. She would never ever have allowed that. We have Blair and Brown to thank for that, B1 and B2, bananas in pyjamas
Lord Monckton, You Rock! Actually he’s my Idol now.Keep up the good work.
Pamela Gray’s right , she had to play both sides , just like PM Harper here in good ol’ Canada. He’s playing along but not doing too much , an excellent strategy in a minority government. Does he believe in AGW, not on your life! He’s an economist , 0.04% of the atmosphere cannot control the weather on the planet, it doesn’t compute.
Brent in Calgary
Osborns.
I had a client who in 1991 bought 600 new Osbornes, a AS400 mainframe and networked them with IBM type 1 cabling. This client was still using these machines when they closed down in late 2001. If this client were still active today I believe they would be still using the same configuration. All that technology was out of date in 1991.
Margaret Thatcher may have made some statements supporting the I.P.C.C. and it’s warminist claims in the very early nineties but since then she has seen through the propaganda and has publicly contradicted them.
Thanks Eric, good to have some solid evidence that Big Oil really doesn’t care which way the AGW debate goes, they win either way. You would think this would put an end to the warmists’ shrill accusations of prominent skeptics being on Big Oil’s payroll, but they would have very few tools left to attack with if that were the case.
pwl, Jim
I believe the Viscount says he programmed in machine language. Assembly is for wusses….
But your point readily survives the exaggeration. : > )
Viscount Christopher Of Benchley is an International Treasure.
I, too, am a free man who bows to no Lord, but if I met Viscount Christopher I would bow and say “My Lord” because he has earned the title!!
Robert says:
June 16, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Smokey,
First of all, Lord Monckton did not participate in that debate. So you pretty much have to admit that half of your commentary is essentially refuted. Nice fact-checking by the way, fits well with Monckton himself. Secondly, because one side of a debate is better at theatrics and manipulating the minds of public citizens does not make them any more right… 80% of people could say gravity isn’t true. It doesn’t make it any more true… Lets not let facts get in the way of honest debate right?
—————–Reply:
Sorry, but for me, a scientist (and engineer, btw), debate isn’t needed. I’ve looked at the data/facts, read a good portion of the arguments, considered the ramifications, causes, history both short- and long-term, and I don’t see where CO2 is something to fear, revile, contain, and wage war against. Certainly it is nothing to get hysterical about. And that’s the bottom line–for me and for millions of others who see this now as a way to keep other-than-honest scientists employed, unscrupulous politicians in power, and tax-oriented policies expanding. The CO2 model has failed. Already.
With or without all those millions of others, I’m satisfied to the point that I don’t lose any sleep over the rise in atmospheric CO2, but the other issues are a different matter entirely. And if you consider your oponent simply as “better at theatrics and manipulating the minds of public citizens” then you have a completely closed mind.
But your example of gravity is well taken. However, people don’t need a scientific explanation to know that gravity is “true”. They can observe the law time and time again with the simplest of experiments and nowhere near 80% would ever lie about it. Nor do they need anything more than a realistic view of human nature, the weather, a gut feeling, rational thought and broken prognostications to realize hysterical global warming isn’t true.
“The IPCC consensus on climate change was phoney, says IPCC insider” http://bit.ly/cfiJV5
Cal Barndorfer says:
“While one could easily imagine this paragraph ripped from a Monty Python script, these are not the words of a scientist.”
They aren’t the words of a scientist, because he wasn’t responding to one. I just listened to Abraham’s blather. In the first two minutes he moaned about polar bears and the threat to them. (I guess he didn’t bother to read about how they are growing in population.) He appealed to authority. (Because Christopher holds no scientific degree he obviously is incapable of clear thinking.) And quoted debunked studies.(I guess he didn’t bother to read the critiques, probably because the critics don’t hold a climatologist degree and therefore incapable of independent thought.)
Cal, have you ever programed in machine language? Me either. You ever reverse engineer a com protocol? I did. Do you know what engineering degree I hold? None. So, does that mean I can’t hold my own and rise above, intellectually, engineers? Abraham’s lack of knowledge regarding the polar bear is unforgivable, given he takes Monckton to task over the issue. His appeal to authority shows his lack of ability to argue the issues intellectually on his own. I hope they disseminate that power point presentation all over the world. It shows, not just Abraham’s want of capability, but the one’s that disseminate it also.
BTW, did you notice how later he rationalized the disappearance of the MWP? And, did you buy into it?
Those who can, do, those who can’t teach.
Just because someone had the money (and lack of drive) to sit and listen to people that “can’t”, for an extended period of time, doesn’t make them “scientists”, it makes them leaches on society.
Now, if they came up with something useful, they could call themselves decedents of Newton or some other person of value.