Preview of Kerry-Lieberman climate bill

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Leak of the day! Kerry-Lieberman cap-and-trade bill

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Craig Goodrich
May 12, 2010 7:03 am

Everything in this bill is catastrophic.
It will raise prices of all imported goods — which is practically everything — while making energy prices skyrocket and pouring additional rebates into the pockets of the non-taxpaying half of the population.
It will continue to rape countryside and wilderness with useless turbine monstrosities enriching fat corporations with subsidies and tax breaks.
It will further line the pockets of carbon-trading speculators.
It will provide even more endless opportunities for pork-barrel boondoggles and vote-buying than the defense budget.
It will even more firmly entrench the lie that CO2 is a pollutant.
In short, it will accomplish the amazing feat of simultaneously destroying our economy, our environment, and our culture all at once. Neither the term “catastrophe” nor the phrase “criminal insanity” approaches an adequate description of this proposal.

Steve Oregon
May 12, 2010 7:42 am

D.O.A.
Delusional On Arrival

Kevin_S
May 12, 2010 7:51 am

Being an election year, this bill will be collecting dust on some sub-committee’s shelf. Incumbents are either fighting for their lives in primaries or have already been cast aside. The manic rush we all saw during the ObamaCare fiasco will be subdued as many try to stop the bleeding in their districts. Now, should the Republicans gain control of either chamber, the bill will die. There are some Republicans who buy into this nonsense, but will keep their heads down for now while the heat is still on. No, this bill is DIC, dead in committee, for this cycle.
At least that is my read.

Metalguru
May 12, 2010 8:05 am

Readers Digest version in bullet points of all the comments:
– Too much big government controlled by mega banks and Corporations on the planet
-Follow the money trail
– A Revolution is badly needed in order to bring back individualism and slay a planetary scale corruption induced by socialism and greed

Nolo Contendere
May 12, 2010 8:16 am

Idiots and socialism. Always an ugly combination. In this case, as in most cases, the best thing for Congress to do is nothing.

Henry chance
May 12, 2010 8:37 am

There is no bill
The 4 page intro is not a bill. It is 4 pages of propaganda.
The 21 pages of summary are
Bullet points!!
Not a bill
There is enough in the way of bullet points to make a colorfull dog and pony show with pie charts, graphs and colors (red for heat)
There is no bill.
I suspect that it will develop into a bill of over 1,000 pages in the early hours of the morning on the day the vote is scheduled. As we can clearly see, it will have threats and urgency attached. Obama says all legislation will be approved by congress and visible online for 5 days before he signs it. That means his signature may be on it if it passes before the ink is dry after it was printed for the Senate.
(and Pelosi will confess there will be 800,000 new jobs created immediately upon passing the bill).
The Congressional Budget Office has nothing to work with based on these pages. But they will insist it creates millions of jobs, cuts the deficit and saves us all money with no new taxes.

Enneagram
May 12, 2010 8:55 am

Gail Combs says:
May 12, 2010 at 5:19 am
You should build a fence around Washington DC instead and not allow anybody to go out. Wouldn´t it be better for you? (I don´t know, and I can not meddle into internal affairs of a foreing nation, but just judging on what you say, that would be the choice)

Gail Combs
May 12, 2010 9:03 am

Nolo Contendere says:
May 12, 2010 at 8:16 am
“Idiots and socialism. Always an ugly combination. In this case, as in most cases, the best thing for Congress to do is nothing.”
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Change that to power hungry multi-billionaires, naive idiots and socialism and you are spot on.

Gail Combs
May 12, 2010 9:06 am

Enneagram says:
May 12, 2010 at 8:55 am
Gail Combs says:
May 12, 2010 at 5:19 am
You should build a fence around Washington DC instead and not allow anybody to go out…..
___________________________________________________________________
What a great idea! I love it. we should do the same for the Gorical

Steven Hill
May 12, 2010 9:22 am

Al needs another house…..back this bill!

John from CA
May 12, 2010 9:24 am

Craig Goodrich says:
May 12, 2010 at 7:03 am
In short, it will accomplish the amazing feat of simultaneously destroying our economy, our environment, and our culture all at once. Neither the term “catastrophe” nor the phrase “criminal insanity” approaches an adequate description of this proposal.
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Fortunately, they can’t implement a Bill like this in a timely way so by the time it starts to get off the ground we will have replaced Congress and Congress will either repeal or amend all these goofy Bills.
Parts of the Act have merit but don’t go far enough to remedy real problems like Mercury emissions. The CO2 part has yet to be proven and is a very low priority.

Editor
May 12, 2010 9:45 am

John in Virginia Beach says:
May 11, 2010 at 3:31 pm
How did Lieberman get suckered into putting his name on this?
Lieberman wasn’t “suckered” into anything. He is a true progressive and a true believer. He and his good friend John McCain are active associates of Globe International which in turn is a partner of the Club of Rome. I supported Lieberman in his last Senate race and McCain for President, but both have exceeded their shelf-life and need to go. Unfortunately, Lieberman is not up for re-election this year…. maybe we could get a re-call petition on the ballot…..

Grumpy Old Man
May 12, 2010 9:48 am

I despair at my own country, the UK. But I always hoped that America would lead the way. But no, you are just signing suicide notes. Please rise up. Tell you Congressman, tell your Senator; this is not the way to go. You are the best and last hope of the West.

John from CA
May 12, 2010 10:01 am

Maybe they know something we don’t? Can you create power by cracking or manipulating CO2 (gas to solid to gas closed loop)? Why store it if you can’t use it?
UPDATE:UK Coalition Agrees On Low-CO2; But Divided On Nuclear
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201005121237dowjonesdjonline000569&title=updateuk-coalition-agrees-on-low-co2-but-divided-on-nuclear#ixzz0njdz8X1B
“The two parties [U.K.’s new coalition government] agree on the rollout of smart meters and smart grids, more renewable energy, energy efficiency, carbon capture and storage, a green investment bank, a carbon price floor and full auctioning of carbon permits.”

Richard M
May 12, 2010 10:47 am

davidmhoffer says:
May 11, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Well, I might not have to move to Canada. With the USA heading toward bankruptcy maybe you guys could just buy up a few states. Since I live in MN that might be one that you’d like. We could put in a few theme parks and you guys could retire here to avoid your winters.

Michael
May 12, 2010 10:48 am

Prong 1: Semantic Deception
Semantic Deception, covered by George Orwell in 1984, calls for lying through the deceitful use of words. Few Americans question the innocent-sounding words/phrases such as “regionalism,” “consolidation,” “democracy” “free trade,” “public/private partnerships,” “school choice,” “base closures” “faith-based,” “freedom,” “patriot,” “security,” “prosperity,” “peace” et al.
Why has no one told the American people that regionalism, be it local, county, state, national or international, is COMMUNISM? The regionalization (consolidation) of the world is quite similar to the three-stage plan outlined by Stalin at the 1936 Communist International. At that meeting, the official program proclaimed: “Dictatorship can be established only by a victory of socialism in different countries or groups of countries, after which there would be federal unions of the various groupings of these socialist countries, and the third stage would be an amalgamation of these regional federal unions into a world union of socialist nations.”
What Stalin called for is taking place in front of our very eyes, with the NAU and other emerging global regional groupings, following the model of the European Union. Regionalism erases constitutional, geographical borders and in so doing does away with locally-elected officials, creating larger and larger municipal units managed by faceless, highly-trained, socialist change agent bureaucrats. A communist writer, Morris Zeitlin, admits that regionalism is communism in an article entitled “Planning is Socialism’s Trademark” published in the Communist Party’s Daily World 11/8/75. Go to deliberatedumbingdown.com where the deliberate dumbing down of America…A Chronological Paper Trail can be downloaded FREE. Zeitlin’s article is found on Page 134.
The Devil’s Seven Prong Fork
By Charlotte Iserbyt (Excerpt from Newswithviews.com)
http://www.channelingreality.com/NWO_WTO/Seven_Prong_Fork.htm#Prong_1:__Semantic_Deception
People better start calling our government out on this BS. The new name of this Cap and Tax bill proves this point.

DD More
May 12, 2010 11:11 am

From the Summary
” Introductory floor and ceiling prices are set at $12 (increasing at 3 percent over inflation annually) and $25 (increasing at 5 percent over inflation annually), respectively.”
Since the Chicago Credit Board price has been $0.10 for the last few months, I guess it is just government inflation at work

John from CA
May 12, 2010 11:22 am

OT: When it rains it pours.
Interior Secretary: Oil Spill A Call To Move On Climate Change
By Angel Gonzalez, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
HOUSTON -(Dow Jones)- U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Wednesday that a massive, unprecedented oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is a “clarion call” to move forward with the Obama administration’s ambitious energy and climate change policy goals–but that the immediate goal is to control the leak and make offshore oil and gas production safer.
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201005121348dowjonesdjonline000610&title=interior-secretary-oil-spill-a-call-to-move-on-climate-change#ixzz0njywenjO

JimB
May 12, 2010 11:40 am

Pamela,
Congrats. I switched my affiliation to Independent many years ago. Living in Mass, it didn’t use to mean much, but recent political events here seem to indicate otherwise.
That being said…they’re all politicians, so to some degree suffer the same flaws across party lines.
Back to the bill.
1. They want to push offshore drilling even FURTHER offshore, to 75 miles. Pushing drilling further offshore is at least a part of the problem we’re seeing now with Deep Horizon. The further out we push them, the deeper they have to go, the greater the risk/unknowns, and the bigger the disaster. Foolhardy. There are wells right now off the coast of Cal that could be producing within a month, having been capped just BEFORE they went into production.
2. They know full well that they can talk about boosting nuclear/clean coal all they want, because it’s an empty promise. At the local level, NO ONE will allow it to happen.
Years ago, I served on the planning board of a small community in Central N.H. One of the things that had to be accomplished was the designation of an area suitable for a trailer park. The state had mandated that communities do this to eliminate “snob zoning”, where towns would designate wetlands as “low income/trailer housing”, knowing it was impossible to develop the site. The new laws, at that time, required every community to designate areas that were acceptable for development of a trailer park. Keep in mind this is extremely rural areas, and back in the 80’s.
This is what needs to happen with nuclear power. There needs to be a federal mandate that REQUIRES each state to designate an area that is acceptable for a nuclear plant/clean coal/power production. That’s the only way this will happen. Otherwise, politicians will continue to smile and say “Hey…I voted for the blahblahblah Energy bill that supports blahblahblah”, because they know it’s meaningless.
It’s almost impossible to put up a windmill in Mass. Why? Because people don’t like the looks of them. Not talking about giant commercial wind farms, just an individual windmill for your home. Everyone supports wind power though…they tell me that all the time.
JimB

Scarface
May 12, 2010 1:32 pm

Isn’t this just a tax increase dressed up in green? They dont even try to hide it:
“First: consumers will come out on top. The American Power Acts sends two-thirds of all revenues not dedicated to rededucing our nation’s deficit back to consumers from day one.”
Que? Not dedicated to reducing the deficit? How much isn’t dedicated then?
Not to mention why to use it for reducing the deficit in the first place?!
This isn’t a ‘green’ bill at all if you ask me. It’s just taxing people. Even if you have no taxable income, you will pay. That’s brilliant! It’s like the toilet tax in ancient Rome.

May 12, 2010 1:39 pm

HA HA HAAA, THE BILL, LET ME AT IT! LET ME AT IT!! GONNA TEAR THAT FRICKIN’ THING TO PIECES! – Kerry-Lieberman bill – all 987 pages http://bit.ly/aTAw8t

afraid4me
May 12, 2010 1:48 pm

This is just what our economy needs right now. 10% of Americans unemployed, one in every 5 males unemployed, business on its knees, new health care mandates, now this. Please tell me this isn’t just a bad dream. And after all the crap coming out of IPCC and East Anglia, the public doesn’t believe this.
Kerry has been a fool forever, but what’s wrong with Joe Lieberman?

Curiousgeorge
May 12, 2010 2:02 pm

Beck is talking about this right now: 5pm et,

P Walker
May 12, 2010 2:51 pm

Glenn Beck needs any info anyone can provide on Maurice Strong . Like him or not , Beck is basically the only one talking about the AGW scam . Maurice Strong is one of the bad guys , so if you can provide some links please help before they get scrubbed .

May 12, 2010 5:59 pm

All we can say is they better get that well capped or their global warming ‘drill baby drill’ bill is goin’ down the TUBES!