You just have to laugh when you see articles like this.
Excerpts from an article by Mike Sandler:
Humans have put too many heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, and now the Earth is running a fever. But there’s also an increasingly toxic atmosphere in the blogosphere, where climate deniers strategically confuse the issue, delay meaningful government action, and harass scientists and authors.
For decades, the media presented the climate “debate” as two sides that were evenly or closely matched. Then a few years ago, around the time Hurricane Katrina struck and Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth won an Oscar and he and the IPCC were awarded a Nobel Prize, the media began to realize that climate science is real and has consequences, and the “other side” is almost all empty rhetoric.
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More sophisticated denier methods often appeal to:
- Free speech (as if achieving consensus on climate science somehow takes away their Constitutional rights) or
- The nature of scientific inquiry means always questioning your assumptions (ironically, the people who question the science of climate change, are likely those who question all science).
Gosh, excercising free speech and questioning assumptions, why, why, they’re TERRIBLE!
You can read the whole thing here. but I wouldn’t count on being able to leave comments:
Climate Deniers are Polluting the Blogosphere
Of course the thought hasn’t occurred to Mr. Sandler that the bulk of opinion has shifted.
Thats what i don’t get about these AGW eco-warriors, they can’t see there doing more harm than good, taking away the focus of more enviromental problems to help line the pockets of the high priests.
AGW has pushed back true enviromentalism into the stone age where there all pushing an agenda that has no basis in facts at the cost of true dialogy of how humans can live on a planet without impacting on it (I’m sure the people cutting down trees in the rain forests as an example are loving it as theres less attention on them now).;
Hey the most devistating thing that humans are doing to the planet is a trace gas that if it wasn’t there would mean you and me wouldn’t be here.
I’m not usually a name caller but there idiots.
Com’on guys, it’s not funny. It’s pitiful, sad, embarrassing even. I don’t think Mike gets out a lot, or, something.
And HufPo, used to be, well you know, side-to-side. But now they’re, you know, tzzzzt, a bit funny, but not in a laughing type way.
Gary (20:41:25) :
Gosh shucks, haven’t y’all heard? The science is settled. Al Gore said so. That’s enough for me. He’s won awards and he gets a lot of applause.
Seriously, am I the only one who hears the sneering patronizing tone in these sorts of articles? Can the pro-AGW readers not notice this? ….
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It shows he is either a government mouth piece or listening to government rhetoric. During the fight against Animal ID (NAIS) farmers were irate when they discovered one of the USDA’s more infamous documents stated that their operatives should treat all farmers as if they have a 6th grade education. The government thinks we are the easily lead gulible fools they have tried so hard to make us.
Uh huh. Climate Deniers are Polluting the Blogosphere the same way CO2 is polluting the atmosphere: NNNNOOOOOOOTTTT!
Try sustaining today’s population on 285 ppm CO2. Just wouldn’t happen.
When the propaganda gets to this pathetic level we know for sure!
AGW is dead!
OT: [snip]
[Reply: Right, off topic. Someone has already posted the link to Tips & Notes.]
TRANSLATION: You “Deniers” are hurting my business of carbon sharing and need to shut up so I can make money.
http://www.carbonshare.org/
To everyone who fears the Huffington Post moderators, give it a shot anyway. They let me make about 10 comments and not one was censored. I mostly commented on other people’s comments, but the story itself is in dire need of a proper (and well-tempered) rebuttal. If I didn’t have to take off for the day I would make it my next task (and as you have seen, rebutting Sandler’s talking points would not be very difficult).
Doug – “..two intelligent men…” You are being far too generous. They and their ilk have an agenda of world government, higher taxes, and the de-industrialization of the world. They are dangerous and inimical to the concepts and principles that the United States was built on.
Doug S (23:01:11) :
I was watching Cris Matthews on Hard Ball tonight with James Cameron the film director and marveling at their utter confusion over the climate debate. These two gentlemen insist that big oil is behind the AGW skepticism – that’s you, me and all the other simple working stiffs that are NOT BUYING IT. The situation has moved beyond a typical political fight, IMO, and has now moved on to reveal a mass psychosis of some kind. Two intelligent men seemingly incapable of understanding the rouse that has gone on here or perhaps incapable of accepting the fact that they have allowed themselves to be taken in by this massive con. I’m betting that when the history is written about this whole episode the most fascinating part will be the degree to which people rationalized their faith in the religion of global warming.
Well that was a full-of-science story by what is definitely a learned author doing their part to propagandize ignorant people. They forget the whole ‘science part’ where it is those that propose some looney theory to show PROOF of same.
I think it time we say put up or shut up to the alarmists.
My guess is carbon credits aren’t what the used to be.
Forgot to mention, this might be a good starting point:
http://www.climateprotectioncampaign.org/supporters.php
It’s a list of the funders of Sandler’s Climate Protection Campaign. Any of you have that many supporters? Big carbon has deep pockets apparently.
Gail Combs (03:43:33) :
The government thinks we are the easily lead gulible fools they have tried so hard to make us.
But that is what WE are! We have been conditioned to be gulliable. Believe everything WRITTEN in any book as they have been “PEER REVIEWED”, so they must be 100% correct. Religion must be 100% correct as they have been peer reviewed many times when rewritten.
Have you ever looked back at your education and said “that does not make sense?” No, that young, you expect the science to be correct as the teachers are educating this.
Here is a strange post with todays date:
Arctic mountains reveal treasure trove of ancient tools
Is headed with a picture of sea ice taken in JULY 2008 taken through a fisheye lens such that it looks like a satelite picture. Picture caption below.
“”Ice patterns are seen in Baffin Bay above the arctic circle from the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Louis S. St-Laurent Thursday, July 10, 2008. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jonathan Hayward)””
Psychologically, I think it goes like this.
They’re getting increasingly confused and doubtful – so they’re trying to reassure themselves that they’re not.
Which is the point of most AGW sites, btw.
I have but two words to say to Mr Sandler. The first word is an Anglo Saxon word which would fall fall of the mod’s snippetty doo dah thingy. The second word is – off.
Suffer in yer Jocks Slanders. Bastard.
What? There is sabotage of the transnational machinery? Well, if we feed the malcontents feet first it could be most educational.
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Good old Reg proving not all IT people are warmists.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/27/soil_microbe_peril_no/
If we are into epitaphs for climate blogs, can we modify
Here lies Lester Moore
6 shots from a .44
No Les, no More.
Here lies WUWT
6 shots from a .303
No WUs, WTf.
Have a go.
Wot was that you said about Clog.
The HuffPo folks really do seem clueless. No wonder, if they’re being told what to think by people like Sandler.
Maybe I should have put my post @04:41:41 today in the “Graham comes to his senses…” article here instead.
“ZT (21:31:27) :
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http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.media.html
“OPT chairman Roger Martin said PopOffsets, launched earlier this month and thought to be the first carbon offsetting scheme to channel funds into family planning, had received much praise…”
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Does that mean if I plant Epicyte spermicidal corn on my farm I won’t have to pay carbon taxes??? Maybe I can get grants from the Rockefeller Foundation along with those from Rockefeller’s Population Council.
I’ve tried to debate some of them, but they have no science, just insults…
If the internet had existed during tulipomania, Dutch tulip promoters and those who had bought into the the tulips would be saying the same thing about those who were pointing out that believing flowers could be worth the value of a year’s wages are silly.
The dark side of this is that AGW true believers think that the science will be more sound if the sound of skeptics goes away.