Earth gives us an Earth Day present: Arctic sea ice is highest for this date in 8 years

I think you’re still missing the point with the sea ice extent graph.
It’s not the extent you should be measuring, it’s the volume. Your graph showing that the Sea Ice extent has increased more in the antarctic is as meaningless as the one showing the sea ice extent has increased in the Arctic.
I made no mention of CO2 emissions or AGW, so I see no reason why you raise them. I was simply pointing out that the Artic Sea Ice isn’t the highest in 8 years so and that the title of this post [snip].

Smokey (08:07:39) :
My point is that there is no evidence to support the claim that sea ice is back at the level was 8 years ago as the title of this post suggests.
I make no claim that this supports or disproves AGW. Just stating the facts.
As you said the planet doesn’t lie.

SteveE:
Many thousand arguments justify the world’s capitalist societies based on the claim that “AGW must be true because the Arctic Ice has been melting. ( Your several statements above expand this by claiming that increasing sea ice extent does not matter, only sea ice volume matters… )
Therefore, the AGW claims are : Catastrophic Global Warming is real because the temperature is increasing, and we can prove temperature is increasing because the Arctic Ice is melting. (Your argument: “.. because Arctic Ice is volume is decreasing …” must be made because sea ice extent is increasing back towards normal; though your argument still accepts the assumption that increasing temperature causes the original sea ice melt.)
We have measurements – shown every day in WUWT for 80 deg north – that Arctic temperatures have NOT increased since the 1950’s. Summer Arctic temperatures have remained constant despite 60 years of increasing CO2 levels.
So, how much Arctic ice “should have been” (could have been ?) melted by the claimed GISS change in global surface temperature of 1/2 of one degree, and when did this increase in temperature occur during the Arctic year?
(That is: If the change in temperature was in spring, fall, or winter, there would have been no melting. If in summer, his surface temperature that was to “increase ice melt” most emphatically did NOT occur – since we have daily Arctic temperature records for 80 deg Latitude showing “no change” at all.)
Therefore, you must show that a 1/2 of one degree change in global temperature IN WINTER caused the change in volume claimed in your graph.
According to AGW theory, there can be no other reason for the supposed change in ice volume other than an increase in temperature. According to AGW advocates, the loss of ice volume proves the change in temperature, so therefore you (the AGW extremists) must be able to calculate ice loss based on below freezing winter temperatures.

RACookPE1978 (11:33:19) :
I would accept evidence supporting that the volume of ice is the same instead of mearly the extent. Otherwise it just comes across as a politically-driven exaggerated and propagandized press release.
RACookPE1978 (11:47:24) :
I agree with you that the decrease in ice volume is most likely do to an increase in temperature, however does these measurements that shows Artic temperatures have not increased take measure the air temperature or the sea temperature? As the ice is floating in the ocean I would have thought this would have the largest effect on the volume of sea ice. Just a thought.
With reagrds to it being 1/2 a degree warmer during the winter I would have thought that this would mean that less ice would freeze in the same time period. How much I’m afraid I don’t know, however there is a nice graph showing the decrease in ice volume so perhaps a relationship can be derived off of that.
I would hardly call myself an AGW extremist for pointing out that the data supporting this thread is exaggerated to prove a point.
I have repeated said that that I make no claim that this supports or disproves AGW. All I suggests is that this data supports the hypothesis that temperatures are increasing.