From “Scientific” American via Reuters, proof positive that global warming is omnipotent and is intertwined into anything you choose it to be. Why, even the inner Earth bends to its will. And we all know that once the inner Earth gets out, we’re doomed, because Al Gore tells us it is millions of degrees.
Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes (link fixed)
By Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent
OSLO (Reuters) – A thaw of Iceland’s ice caps in coming decades caused by climate change may trigger more volcanic eruptions by removing a vast weight and freeing magma from deep below ground, scientists said on Friday.
They said there was no sign that the current eruption from below the Eyjafjallajokull glacier that has paralysed flights over northern Europe was linked to global warming. The glacier is too small and light to affect local geology.
“Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades,” said Freysteinn Sigmundsson, a vulcanologist at the University of Iceland.
“Global warming melts ice and this can influence magmatic systems,” he told Reuters. The end of the Ice Age 10,000 years ago coincided with a surge in volcanic activity in Iceland, apparently because huge ice caps thinned and the land rose.
“We believe the reduction of ice has not been important in triggering this latest eruption,” he said of Eyjafjallajokull. “The eruption is happening under a relatively small ice cap.”
Carolina Pagli, a geophysicist at the University of Leeds in England, said there were risks that climate change could also trigger volcanic eruptions or earthquakes in places such as Mount Erebus in Antarctica, the Aleutian islands of Alaska or Patagonia in South America.
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He said that melting ice seemed the main way in which climate change, blamed mainly on use of fossil fuels, could have knock-on effects on geology. The U.N. climate panel says that global warming will cause more floods, droughts and rising seas.
h/t to WUWT reader Sean Peake
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As the old saying goes, “when you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail”.
Every time one of these clowns comes up with this kind of nonsense, they just make real science look bad.
There is a giant ice cap on Iceland? Realy? From Wikipedia
The interior mainly consists of a plateau characterised by sand fields, mountains and glaciers, while many glacial rivers flow to the sea through the lowlands. Iceland is warmed by the Gulf Stream and has a temperate climate despite its high latitude just outside the Arctic Circle.
Doesn’t sound like an ice cap to me!
And then you have this level of “reporting” from the talking heads at CNN
SANCHEZ: I was just asking Chad, how can you get a volcano in Iceland? [Myers laughs]. Isn’t it too- when you think of a volcano, you think of Hawaii and long words like that. You don’t think of Iceland.
MYERS: Right.
SANCHEZ: You think it’s too cold to have a volcano there. But no! There it is.
Thanks to Mike Core (13:34:53) for a nice splash of ice-water-in-the-face reality (“Tectonics 101”):
Even a layman can tell that this Freysteinn Sigmundsson is engaging in sheer, unbridled speculation. Nothing wrong with speculation, surely, but let’s not dignify it with label ‘hypothesis’.
But there is a real scientific discovery in this thread. It strikes me as wonderfully important, so here’s the comment in full:
This deserves a lead post of its own; in the meantime, read pgosselin’s summary on his website.
Finally, many thanks to Just The Facts (08:31:28) for the exciting trailer to “The Mole People.” I may just have to rent this forgotten drive-in-movie classic!
/Mr Lynn
In the same vacuous vein as the headline article here, try reading this one from AlJazeera. It truly is abysmal alarmist BS, but it’s read by millions.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/featuredPostAJE/SnowDrifts-565.jpg
You can tell me that these are scientists speaking all you want, but they really don’t know what they are talking about. There is so little known about what causes volcanos to erupt that only guesswork prevails. The nature of things on this earth are so very complicated that scientists really don’t know much about how it all works yet. I suspect they never will.
You will notice that the weasel words such as; may, could, or might, precede almost all of the scientific statements on climate change. Thet’s the state of scientific knowlege as of now. Something might happen. I have know this since I was a little boy. And so have you. Now you know.
It will be interesting to see if all that fresh water runoff from XXX,XXX cubic metres of ice resulting from the eruption with end up showing as a nice red dot on the NOAA April TA map (assuming it is warmer than the surrounding sea) or whether it will contribute to more Arctic ice later in the year.
savethesharks (08:20:48) :
“….One thing is for sure our species has NOT been progressively evolving from the past to the future.
If the press and some of the automatons in the science world that put out this rubbish is any judge of things, then our species as a whole seems to be getting stupider and stupider….”
Stupidity no longer removes a potential breeder from the breeding population, worse they mate with others lacking the common sense gene. This is the problem with insulating children completely from reality.
Yes that is partially sarcasm, but I keep remembering the scene from 9/11 where the firemen were clearing one of the twin towers before it collapsed and some idiot on a computer kept telling the fireman not to bother him…. Or the eighteen year old who walked up to one of my ponies and kicked him HARD in the rump. Lucky for him he did it to a well mannered gelding and not one of the more temperamental mares.
Lack of common sense is no longer allowed to punish children in many first world countries. Many of our young are shielded from reality, especially those who go on to get advanced degrees. The rest (street kids) learn to live by their wits with less than a nodding acquaintance with honesty. (I am talking about the USA here)
Apparently, we could save the earth from the scourge of volcanoes if we just had the sense to cover the earth with a sheet of ice.
Sadly, it just isn’t funny anymore. Witness the person(s) willing to give credence to Sigmundsson. Why don’t those people crack a book on volcanoes or even a high-school level geology book before reading these crackpots thinking they found something novel. I don’t think this stuff is going to stop until we start holding these “scientists” accountable in some way for the bs they’re spewing. Evidently, a significant portion of the earth’s human inhabitants have acquiesced their thinking responsibilities to anyone that wishes to call themselves a scientist.
Poor old SciAm, sad to see it sunk so low. Next they’ll be printing papers about Alien Abductions and Hitler’s Secret Base on the Moon.
So when is Unscientific America going to report this one about the 3.2million undersea volcanoes and why CO2 of lakes has not changed in terms of acidification?
http://carbon-budget.geologist-1011.net/
Come on EPA/NASA/NOAA, don’t let those Norwegians take your points. You may as well go defensive and throw in meteors, asteroids, and coronal mass ejections as Anthropogenic Global Warming effects before someone takes the last few points in this game. Remember, there are few left for the taking.
“Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades”
Sigmundsson must be angling to head the next sham inquiry into AGW pals doing naughty things with data.
A bit of fun, jest, from elsewhere related to the eruption and AGW ties…..
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Carolina Pagli, a geophysicist at the University of Leeds in England, said there were risks that climate change could also trigger volcanic eruptions or earthquakes in places such as Mount Erebus in Antarctica, the Aleutian islands of Alaska or Patagonia in South America.
I wasn’t aware they offered a Ph.D in Dildotics.
QUICKLY, IGOR, WE MUST START THE FLOGISTRON!
yes, yes, master, the flogistron–but, master, it’s a volcano! shouldn’t we hunt up a virgin?
PERHAPS AFTER WE TRY THE FLOGISTRON, IGOR. THE POOR DEAR WOULD ROAST IN THE MILLIONS OF DEGREES BEFORE SHE HIT BOTTOM. CAN’T BE CRUEL, IGOR.
yes, yes, master, but couldn’t we at least request a grant to find one?
OH, ALL RIGHT. YOU WIN THIS TIME, IGOR.
A little advice for Carolina Pagli.
Lay off the strong cheese!
Freysteinn Sigmundsson, a vulcanologist at the University of Iceland is nominated for the Golden Cow Pie Award.
Harold Vance (07:44:50) :
Europe is now getting free fertilizer plus a cooling effect
Howard, I was having that very discussion with a colleague at lunchtime. Is volcanic ash good for the soil?
David, UK (13:16:43) :
“Our work suggests…”
For “work” read “modelling, adjusting, conspiring, cherry-picking, fudging, transposing, hiding, smoothing, extrapolating, exaggerating, manipulating, destroying, inventing.”
Did I leave anything out?
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What you are actually saying is that science conc. the whole earth system
is complicated. But, you should stay in there. Rejecting everything
difficult or unpleasant as to consequences is not the way.
fhsiv (13:32:29) said:
“My God! I’m not sure what to think about this. Is this just a desperate attempt to scare ‘our leaders’ into action?”
No, this is the bidding of our leaders, to scare *us* into allowing them to take whatever the hell action they want.
RE; John Luft 14:02:50
While that is the winner, he had a follow up worth a chuckle too.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/04/15/rick-sanchez-too-cold-iceland-have-volcano-there
MYERS: That is a plume of ash coming out of the top of [a] volcano, going straight up. Tens-
SANCHEZ: What’s that white stuff though? It looks like clouds.
MYERS: Tens of thousands- that’s just a cloud.
SANCHEZ: Oh, okay.
899 (07:57:25) :
What a COMPLETE line of BS!
The weight of the ice … I am beyond words!
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Baltic shorelines, possibly in Canada too? – land is still rising after the weight
of ice during last glacial.
Be prepared for a cool summer 2010 and really cold winter of 2010/11:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/04/nasas-jpl-monitoring-iceland-volcano-worried-it-will-trigger-more-massive-eruptions.html
Volcanic eruptions in high-latitudes can greatly alter climate and distant river flows, including the Nile, according to a study funded in part by NASA. Researchers found that Iceland’s Laki volcanic event, a series of about ten eruptions from June 1783 through February 1784, significantly changed atmospheric circulations across much of the Northern Hemisphere creating unusual temperature and precipitation patterns that peaked in the summer of 1783, including far below normal rainfall over much of the Nile River watershed and record low river levels.
The study provided new evidence that large volcanic eruptions north of the equator often have far different impacts on climate than those in the tropics.
Building water reservoirs can cause earthquakes. Water, and ice, are heavy. Adding a lake or removing a glacier can influence seismic activity. See:
http://www.nyx.net/~dcypser/induceq/ris.html
See also mlf’s post above.
@Tom Bowden (13:00:32) :”And volcanic particulates and sulphur dioxide, etc. will circulate the globe reducing temperatures in a natural self-moderating process.”
The cooling impact of volcanoes is largely limited to tropical volcanoes. See (gasp):
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/05/current-volcanic-activity-and-climate/