We knew, it was only a matter of time…

From “Scientific” American via Reuters, proof positive that global warming is omnipotent and is intertwined into anything you choose it to be. Why, even the inner Earth bends to its will. And we all know that once the inner Earth gets out, we’re doomed, because Al Gore tells us it is millions of degrees.

http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/darvaza-turkmenistan-door-to-hell-01.jpg

"The Door to Hell" in Turkmenistan - not volcanic, but just as relevant to this article as man-made global warming

Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes (link fixed)

By Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent

OSLO (Reuters) – A thaw of Iceland’s ice caps in coming decades caused by climate change may trigger more volcanic eruptions by removing a vast weight and freeing magma from deep below ground, scientists said on Friday.

They said there was no sign that the current eruption from below the Eyjafjallajokull glacier that has paralysed flights over northern Europe was linked to global warming. The glacier is too small and light to affect local geology.

“Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades,” said Freysteinn Sigmundsson, a vulcanologist at the University of Iceland.

“Global warming melts ice and this can influence magmatic systems,” he told Reuters. The end of the Ice Age 10,000 years ago coincided with a surge in volcanic activity in Iceland, apparently because huge ice caps thinned and the land rose.

“We believe the reduction of ice has not been important in triggering this latest eruption,” he said of Eyjafjallajokull. “The eruption is happening under a relatively small ice cap.”

Carolina Pagli, a geophysicist at the University of Leeds in England, said there were risks that climate change could also trigger volcanic eruptions or earthquakes in places such as Mount Erebus in Antarctica, the Aleutian islands of Alaska or Patagonia in South America.

He said that melting ice seemed the main way in which climate change, blamed mainly on use of fossil fuels, could have knock-on effects on geology. The U.N. climate panel says that global warming will cause more floods, droughts and rising seas.

h/t to WUWT reader Sean Peake

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UPDATE: A rebuttal to this premise has been made by WUWT’s Steve Goddard. See it here.

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This is idiotic.
If the magma chamber is close enough to surface to be affected by the weight of the glacier, then it is already rapidly melting the glacier from underneath.

But I just read a news article quoting a scientist saying the ice made the volcano WORSE due to the ash interaction with the melting ice……
But I forgot, AGW proves everything, probably even this guy’s three eruptions before we invented little flying machines…

This is a good thing, right? Think of all the CO2 we’re saving from all these grounded airplanes!

Douglas DC

Ah what about Laki in 1784, or Krakatoa, or Kenai on 1912, or oh, nevermind.
This is indeed “a sinners in the hands of an angry Gaia” sermon….

Harold Vance

The article looks like a late April Fool’s joke to me.
Europe is now getting free fertilizer plus a cooling effect.

DERISE

Yet another effect of global warming. Hummmm…I wonder if the melting glaciers on Mt. Pinitubo caused it to erupt. Wait, there were no glaciers on Mt. Pinitubo, duh.

I’m not a volcanologist and I don’t play one on TV, but I have to call BULL on this idea !

NucEngineer

Super,
A negative feedback. Where is THAT quantified in the computer models used to predict global temperature in the year 2100?

Boudu

As I watched the news last night reporting on the Icelandic ash cloud I said to my wife “I wonder how long before someone blames AGW for this”.
Predictable. Add it to the Warm List.

norby

I’m too stunned to comment… and besides I’m not at my desk anymore. ROTHFLMAO!

Martin Brumby

C’mon, Anthony!
You’re making them up now!
Right?
Nice sense of the ridiculous, though.

Jason

global Warming doesn’t melt ice. this year Ice growth in the arctic proves that. Atlantic Oscillation, and Wind patterns melt ice

Urederra

“We believe the reduction of ice has not been important in triggering this latest eruption,” he said of Eyjafjallajokull. “The eruption is happening under a relatively small ice cap.”

We say one thing and the opposite. That way we can’t be wrong.

I am 65 know I have heard everything what a load of bull dust

schnydz

***puts hand in face*** NOW they tell us!
/sarc off

Rob

Is there anything Global Warming can’t do?
So we are to believe that thousands of volcanoes are being “keep at bay” by glaciers?

richard verney

It is a novel piece of research that considers that the mechanical strength properties of some 200metres or so of ice can keep the lid on the crust (given that typically the oceanic crust is 3 to 6 miles thick, contineantal crust 20 to 30 miles thick). I certainly never guessed that some 200metres of ice could prevent the movement of plate tectonics. Trace amounts of CO2 are surely powerful indeed.

Talk about nebulous!

“Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades,”

Suggests… eventually… either… somewhat… or… coming decades…
Our work suggests that a room full of chimpanzees with typewriters will either come up with something like Hamlet or something else over some period of time.

Scott Covert

I would think melting ice in Iceland would be akin to the butterfly effect compared to Tectonic forces. Yes it could have an effect but it would be lost in the noise… Kind of like AGW compared to natural cycles.

tom s

sickening…

James Sexton

Uhmm,……geez……that’s…… volcanoes already erupt…..ice doesn’t stop…..the properties of magnum….. pressure from under neath……heat…….do people really believe……..?has the gene pool really …………?, I’m speechless.

Tenuc

Too many ‘weasel words’ from Freysteinn Sigmundsson for this piece to have much meaning. When he can accurately predict the timing and size of future volcanic eruptions, I may start to have interest in what he is saying.

Jay

OMG, it’s worse than we thought !

899

What a COMPLETE line of BS!
The weight of the ice … I am beyond words!
So let’s see: Does that mean that all the water in the Pacific and Atlantic deeps will keep those underwater volcanoes from erupting — even though they keep erupting?
And what about Mt. Saint Helen? Why did it erupt?
WHO pays those people to say things like that?
Geez!

Ron Michaels

I thought felt a draft… who left the door to Hell open again?

Ulrik

He is looking for funding!

Pamela Gray

For the love of Pete.

John Egan

Does global warming cause male pattern baldness?

p.g.sharrow "PG"

changes in the flow of the earths magnetic field has more effect then a little ice melt.

Eric Gisin

I can’t be due to the oceans rising 120m at the end of the ice age???

Steve Oregon

This is typical AGW Bovinium Secretium.
It doesn’t matter if there is any shred of evidence, scientific or otherwise. A pondering notion like this merely has to be released for www distribution and as it travels and get’s picked up by Science Journals it morphs into Established Science.
Then warmers point to the publications as proof. They provide links and mock skeptics who point out that it has no source but someone’s or some group’s imagination.
This is exactly how Jane Lubchenco’s fabricated link between Oregon’s seasonal Ocean Dead Zones and AGW was created.
Warmers now frequently argue that this link is well founded and refer to abundant publications where Lubchenco and her peers discuss it.

Rhys Jaggar

They will no doubt be glad of the cooling effects of the ash in the atmosphere then……..

Dennis Hand

It occurred to me this morning, as I read this and other articles about the eruptions in Iceland, that no has given thought to the idea that maybe what is happening in the North Atlantic is a shift in magma in the area which is resulting in a localized warming of the land in Iceland, Greenland…. and that is what is causing the melting of the glaciers. This is just speculation on my part. I am far from a scientist and definitely not a climatologist or geologist, but I do read and think about what the implications are beyond just the surface information.
One of you, who is more skilled in this area, may want to do some research on this topic.

Bill Marsh

‘our work suggests’ … Nice quantitative, scientific statement there. So ‘suggests’ is now a publishable result for a scientific paper?
I ‘suggest’ that the ‘weight’ on top of a fault that spawns a volcano is inconsequential when compared to the ‘weight’ of the magma below the fault.

Tim G

Sounds like “negative feedback” to me. The ash from the volcanoes will act to cool teh atmosphere. Add this to this year’s Al Gore prediction that global warming will bring more snow and things are looking a lot less dire 😉
–t

Dave F

😐

Pat

This is simply ridiculous. I watched The National last night on CBC here in Canada and they had a prominent geophysicist on explaining exactly why this volcano in Iceland is erupting. As a matter of fact, it has been erupting for 50 Million years and it is not going to stop according to him. It is not global warming causing this, it is a rift in the Atlantic Ocean sea floor that is pulling a part releasing magma to the surface. The series of Volcanoes stretches from Iceland all the way down to the tip of Antarctica. What a horseshit article on behalf of Scientific American.

Meanwhile, here is more proof of earlier warm periods:
The following is a summary essay in English of a piece that appeared in the Swiss news journal Die Weltwoche, by Alex Reichmuth
The Alps were once greener than they are today
http://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2010-15/artikel-2010-15-gletscherforschung-die-zeugen-frueheren-klimawandels.html
English summary essay here:
http://pgosselin.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/swiss-glaciers-expose-earlier-warm-periods/

kwik

Its PNS.
Make wild claims that might be true, and yet, might not.
Keep the agenda going.Doesnt even matter whether it has any relevance, or is highly likely, or not.
And it obviously works. Has worked for 20 years now.

Norman

This is … THis is just silly. These people call themselves scientists?? I have a theory that is just as likely; Isn’t Iceland a Scandanavian-type country? It seems that the Fire Giants, are active again and Ragnorokk is upon us.

Pascvaks

There’s no crying in Science!*
There’s NO CRYING IN SCIENCE!*
What is happening to the world’s scientific population? It can’t be genetically modified food additives, hormone injections, or smog, it’s much too specific to PhD’s. Where do these people come from?
This is worse than the 1930’s!
When people get this stupid you can bet something BAD is going to happen. And THIS is worse, MUCH worse!
((For most of my life we blamed the USSR for all this crazy evil stuff. They were poisoning the water in N/America & Europe. etc, etc.. I guess the Chinese are doing it now;-( Isn’t there some Board that can revoke the PhD’s of idiots like this?))
* Unless you’re a Chemist. Then it’s OK, sometimes.

Freysteinn Sigmundsson is floating an off-the wall hypothesis. What data does he present?
There were huhe volcanic eruptions during the last ice age, you know, when the ice was really thick. They’re deparate.

Tim Clark

Anthony, the link to Scientific American gives a:
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savethesharks

So they use this event, even though they admit this event has no connection whatsoever with so-called “global warming”, they still use this event to capitalize on what may or may not occur in the future.
Journalism, and science, at its worst!
One thing is for sure our species has NOT been progressively evolving from the past to the future.
If the press and some of the automatons in the science world that put out this rubbish is any judge of things, then our species as a whole seems to be getting stupider and stupider.
And I say to Reuters, Associated Press, and Al Gore and his ilk: Keep the stupidity coming!
The longer you publish ridiculous information to the public, the less you will ever be believed again, and the smarter smarter and better off all the rest of will become…at your miserable pathetic expense.
We are laughing at you, not with you.
Chris
Norfolk Virginia USA

James F. Evans

AGW proponents are throwing everything they have into the fight — including the kitchen sink.
And the mask has come off.
Oil companies are cautiously setting the stage for supporing the U.S. carbon regulation bill in the Senate — and other large business groups are posturing for a “compromise”.
It’s not just the left who support CO2 regulation — large business interests are lining up, too — they’ll figure a way to “work” the system, whatever it is.
It’s the middle-class that will pay for the whole thing with higher energy costs and job killing regulation.
Senate climate bill to be unveiled April 26:
“(Reuters) – A long-awaited compromise bill to reduce U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases blamed for global warming will be unveiled by a group of senators on April 26, sources said on Thursday.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63A0UW20100415
If you want to stop this carbon bill start contacting your senators, now.
And any business memberships you belong to.
The fight has begun!

Luis Dias

So…. GW causes volcanoes, which in turn cause Global Cooling…..
Hey did the guy just admit a negative feedback?

johnythelowery

LUNCH WITH AL – A short skitt
Waitress to AL: Can I take your order please?
AL: Yes. You will believe in AGW and if you don’t we’re going to lock you up with Watts, McIntyre, Corbyn,…………………….just kidding! I’ll have a BLT.
GUEST: Can’t wait till your friends at the UN pass EGO-cide.
AL: ECO-cide! Lets say grace….Dear Lord…………Amen.
GUEST: “Hey….who stole all the silver ware?”
THE END

Boudu

I see Kevin Trenberth has lost some heat.
http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/is-there-missing-heat-in-the-climate-system-my-comments-on-this-ncar-press-release/
it reminded me of a joke from my chdhood;
“Dad. Where are the Andes ?”
“Ask your mother. She puts everything away”
Has Kevin checked down the back of his sofa ?

enneagram

WOW! They have discovered the final cure for teenage pimples!: Just to paste over them a thick layer of make up and…Voila!
Shame on them!, fool “post normal scientists”. Just enable USGS on your Google earth and anyone can see the many “dots”along the plates’ edges, those are earthquakes: Plates are now moving ya know? and much more in these “interesting times”, and those Iceland volcanoes, as shown a few posts ago, here in WUWT, are located precisely where the american plate and the european plate meet. The rest is simple common sense.
BTW, you will also see a recent swarm of low intensity earthquakes in the US midwest.

savethesharks

correction: “and the smarter smarter and better off all the rest of us will become”