See Gore Run: "I'm having lunch!"

UPDATE: Some commenters seem to think Al is being treated unfairly. Gore press policy might be the reason we see this sort of thing happening. See the update below the “read more” line.

Seems that former Vice President Al Gore doesn’t like the cameras when people ask tough questions about the Arctic Sea ice, or Climategate, or er, anything. Lunch is more important than telling those pesky Fox News viewers how wrong they are.

Ambush journalism? Seemed good enough for CBS 60 minutes back when they were a real news program. Watch the video.

Alternate link if you are having trouble seeing the first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmzCY-9lo6g

Here’s Al on the “ambush journalism” 60 Minutes show when the conditions are favorable to him:

No, Al would never associate himself with an outfit that does “ambush journalism“.

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UPDATE: Some WUWT readers may remember this post I did back in 2008:

Gore to press: Stay Out!

Credit: Robert Vamosi / CNET Networks

One blogger, Tim Wilson, with press credentials writes:

Gore, who reportedly receives $100,000 for personal appearances, apparently has a standard contract that bans the fourth estate from all of his speeches. No one seems to know why, and we can’t ask — on account of we’re out here, and he’s in there.

So with such a policy and contract language, is it any surprise that Gore would not talk to a Fox News reporter and the only opportunity the reporter had would be in a hallway?

Gore’s Contract:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717071gore1.html

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April 13, 2010 1:33 pm

Very funny! I hope he didn’t have an indigestion…
Ecotretas

April 13, 2010 1:35 pm

The video is no longer available.
REPLY: Try again

DirkH
April 13, 2010 1:38 pm

Video already pulled down, it seems. You don’t ridicule The Profit.

PaulH
April 13, 2010 1:42 pm

Heck, I don’t like to be interrupted during lunch hour either. ;->
Paul
I just watched the video again – it seems OK to me. A caching problem somewhere along the interweb perhaps?

April 13, 2010 1:42 pm

Wonderful! Why didn’t Al Gore just wheel around for the camera and say “The science is settled!”

Kitefreak
April 13, 2010 1:43 pm

Trying the video now from the UK and it says “This video is not available”.
Says the same if you right click and select ‘view on youtube’.
Nope, not getting to see that. Move along.

jaypan
April 13, 2010 1:43 pm
April 13, 2010 1:45 pm

It seems it is working now. I saw it earlier. The part that caught my attention was how silent he was when climategate was brought up.
See it while you can. Or download it while you can. Just Google “Youtube download” for sites that let you download Youtube videos. Or you can try the “Flashgot” add-on for FireFox.

JasonF
April 13, 2010 1:46 pm

Gore was out to lunch years ago

April 13, 2010 1:46 pm

Oh my dear! The video is down. But it’s available here also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmzCY-9lo6g
Ecotretas

Alan M
April 13, 2010 1:47 pm

Yep, i tried too, No longer available
REPLY: Refresh your browser, I’m able to view it. – A

Kitefreak
April 13, 2010 1:48 pm

Only part 1 seems to be unavailable.

RockyRoad
April 13, 2010 1:50 pm

I actually feel sorry for Gore. He’s not a scientist, and he’s not a lawyer. He turned out to be a rather mediocre politician, too. He’s been caught with his investment hand in the Global Warming cookie jar, while his book and film have been severely discredited. Every time he does a real interview, he makes an abject fool of himself. His friends are either incredibly brainwashed, complete idiots, or crooks like he is. He is responsibile for preaching falseholds that are responsible for genocide. Perhaps it is living under those circumstances that has caused him to be the biggest hypocrite ever.

Original Mike
April 13, 2010 1:51 pm

Plays for me @ 15:51 CDT.

enneagram
April 13, 2010 1:55 pm

I saw it yesterday at Bill O’Reilly’s show. It called my attention the Profit’s deep red rushed cheeks…made me remember NOAA’s SST anomalies graphs.

ZT
April 13, 2010 1:59 pm

If you are a politician who starts down the “I will not debate the issue” track – this is where you end up.
…and had he not invented the interweb, he would have got away with it!

Paul
April 13, 2010 2:00 pm

That is the most hilarious video of Gore that I’ve ever seen…

johnnythelowery
April 13, 2010 2:04 pm

AL GORE is wrong again. He’s having everyone else’s lunch!

Henry chance
April 13, 2010 2:06 pm

The state run media doesn’t get out much. They used to travel to the events. Now they just regurgitate from bloggers and read Press Releases form the Information truth command headquarters.
The IRS still does ambush visits as does Osha.

Rob W
April 13, 2010 2:07 pm

Though I don’t agree with Gore, I feel bad for him. I, for one, don’t like ambush journalism, no matter who it’s practiced on.

Henry chance
April 13, 2010 2:08 pm

Algore is headed into a minority but for some reason the word “tiny” seems to not fit.

toby
April 13, 2010 2:16 pm

I watched the second video, and the “expert” “pretty impressive” person who was a sceptic turned out to be …. Dick Cheney, a man lucky not to be in the dock for war crimes and torture.
You’ve got to be joking! Is this the best you can do?
Incidentally, just reading Gore’s “Our Choice”, and I would recommend it to anyone who wants a guide to alternative energy generation, not just for the people who accept AGW. It’s a book written by an intelligent man for the intelligent reader, the type you’ll never find the Dick Cheneys of the world bothering about.

nandheeswaran jothi
April 13, 2010 2:16 pm

RockyRoad (13:50:00) :
good summary

pwl
April 13, 2010 2:20 pm

Always download those youtube videos since they have a policy of removing them at anytime.
If I was in his situation I’d not be commenting either. Boxed in on all fronts by the inconvenient facts of Nature not following his soothsaying. He’s got Blood & Gore on his hands, in the cookie jar as noted above, and ice popping up and scientists being caught in blatant lies, damned lies and lousy statistical games of fraud. He is pretty much on the run.
I wonder what the Goracle’s next moves will be?
Some other Gore exploits:
“In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don’t think there’s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis.” — Al Gore in an interview.
“The interior of the earth is extremely hot, several millions of degrees.” – Al Gore!!!
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2009/11/16/the-interior-of-the-earth-is-several-millions-of-degrees-al-gore/
Al Gore Illegally Assaulting, Harassing and Detaining People With his Security Goons With Guns To Avoid Any Questions on Climategate and AGW
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2009/11/30/al-gore-illegally-assaulting-harrasing-and-detaining-people-with-his-security-goons-with-guns-to-avoid-any-questions-on-climategate-and-agw
If the Climate Alarmists Are Not Hiding Anything Why Do They Keep Calling Security To Avoid Answering Questions on AGW and Climategate?
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2009/12/12/if-the-climate-alarmists-are-not-hiding-anything-why-do-they-keep-calling-security-to-avoid-answering-questions-on-agw-and-climategate/
I’m amazed that no one has started legal proceedings against Al Gore in the USA or England for his role in the climate mess.

Ale Gorney
April 13, 2010 2:20 pm

Ambush journalism is the only option when Gore will not allow opposing voices to challenge him anywhere or at anytime.

enneagram
April 13, 2010 2:22 pm

What if HE is really an ALIEN?

Claude Harvey
April 13, 2010 2:24 pm

Anyone who “feels bad” for Gore should replay a few of his smug performances back when the world was his oyster. His Largeness confidently waded off into that media swamp without even getting his feet wet. Now that he’s up to his behind in alligators, I for one am enjoying the show and rooting for the ‘gators.

Lawrie Ayres
April 13, 2010 2:27 pm

Great to see at least one news channel is presenting an alternate view. Ever so slowly a few “adverse” climate stories are getting out here in Australia. It’s still a crime to criticise the settled science but the brain washing has slowed somewhat.

Glenn
April 13, 2010 2:36 pm

Rob W (14:07:46) :
“Though I don’t agree with Gore, I feel bad for him. I, for one, don’t like ambush journalism, no matter who it’s practiced on.”
I must say I feel the same. It’s very bad behavior, and reflects poorly on FOX.

Michael Jankowski
April 13, 2010 2:42 pm

Is Hansen going to compare “ambush journalism” to the Gestapo now that Gore has been assaulted?

enneagram
April 13, 2010 2:42 pm

toby (14:16:02) :What about Little Lulu?

Henry chance
April 13, 2010 2:55 pm

Did Michael Mann ambush the trees with a chainsaw? What is with that?
Hansen mentioned a request for info under FOIA is harassment or an ambush.
These little emporers are very fussy.

John Wolf
April 13, 2010 2:56 pm

Do not feel sorry for this mendacious bastard. He knew all along he was lying. He knows he is wrong. He deserves every ambush he gets.

Kitefreak
April 13, 2010 2:57 pm

Tried Firefox and IE. Followed by reboot.
Still not getting to see part one.
REPLY: Well there’s nothing we can do about it here. We don’t run YouTube – A

Peter Miller
April 13, 2010 2:59 pm

Gore’s right – the Earth is flat – it’s obvious, if it wasn’t flat, most people would fall off.
AGW is real and if we don’t all act soon to preserve the wealth of his family, then there is a real possibility that something really significant might happen to the Earth’s climate, like the average temperature rising 0.001 degrees C per decade.

Robert M
April 13, 2010 3:00 pm

Don’t feel sorry for Al, he has made millions selling the gullible his version of indulgences. Now that his victims realize they have been had, don’t feel sorry for him, feel sorry for the poor gullible masses that bought into his fraudulent scheme.

Original Mike
April 13, 2010 3:06 pm

I’m of two minds. On a personal level, I feel for him. But, more importantly, he has taken it upon himself to save the planet. How can he do that if he’s running from the press? If he really had the strengths of his convictions, he’d welcome the opportunity to talk to a prominent news organization. Maybe he really is in it just for the money.

View from the Solent
April 13, 2010 3:08 pm

In a similar vein, his lordship has an intersting post http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/4/13/its-true.html on the growing ‘feed-in’ scam over here in Europe. (owners of windmills etc. are paid a huge premium for the electricity they supply to the grid) Coming your way soon?

Lazarus Long
April 13, 2010 3:21 pm

“It’s a book written by an intelligent man for the intelligent reader, the type you’ll never find the Dick Cheneys of the world bothering about.”
toby, change your name to moby.

Douglas DC
April 13, 2010 3:27 pm

View from the Solent (15:08:24) :
In a similar vein, his lordship has an intersting post http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/4/13/its-true.html on the growing ‘feed-in’ scam over here in Europe. (owners of windmills etc. are paid a huge premium for the electricity they supply to the grid) Coming your way soon?
Happening right here in River City-Union Co. Oregon to be exact. Have
a friend who is taking Concealed Carry classes (recommended to him .45 ACP
BTW) because he fears for his life and his family due to the pro- turbine
positions. He’s pointed this out in the local media…

Glenn
April 13, 2010 3:31 pm

Original Mike (15:06:50) :
“I’m of two minds. On a personal level, I feel for him. But, more importantly, he has taken it upon himself to save the planet. How can he do that if he’s running from the press? If he really had the strengths of his convictions, he’d welcome the opportunity to talk to a prominent news organization. Maybe he really is in it just for the money.”
If the world needed saving, would the press be the ones to get the job done?? I seriously doubt that. I’m sure Gore does have the strength of conviction, and he said he would consider going on FOX, but he is right about ambush journalism. Do you seriously think he should have taken time out to sit down with that reporter who was chasing him around and do an interview on the spot?

Ray
April 13, 2010 3:34 pm

He did not want to GIVE an interview… this is completely normal for the deceiver-in-chief… he doesn’t give FREE interviews… just those with lots of money attached to them. What a clown!

DirkH
April 13, 2010 3:35 pm

“Henry chance (14:55:52) :
Did Michael Mann ambush the trees with a chainsaw?”
You’re right. We should tell Ecocide Polly.

April 13, 2010 3:37 pm

If you run into a crowded theater and yell fire (for profit) – there may well be consequences for your actions.

tom
April 13, 2010 3:41 pm

I absolutely, positively detest this fraud….

Steve in SC
April 13, 2010 3:46 pm

RockyRoad (13:50:00)
Rob W (14:07:46) :
You guys are displaying some bad judgment.
I have had the dubious distinction of actually meeting algore and shaking his hand (years ago on a campaign swing through Tennessee where I used to live). It took me 6 months to get the oil off of my hand. I have only met one person on this earth more dishonest than algore. He deserves no pity or sympathy and will get none from me. I hope he did get indigestion.
Anthony a most excellent category you have selected for this post.

Kitefreak
April 13, 2010 3:47 pm

Part one now available – thank you!
Why do you guys still call him vice-president?
Reply: The titles President and Vice President are used for life by convention in the US. ~ ctm

R.S.Brown
April 13, 2010 3:58 pm

No problem running both videos at the same time here.
I have http://wattuswiththat.com entered under my
“permissions” file as a “truted site”
I simply “x’d” out of my first call for WUWT, took off my
NO! Flash utility program, re-clicked my WUWT shortcut,
and both videos ran perfectly.
Even though my son does a lot of Youtubing, I couldn’t get
that video to run right away.

Craig Moore
April 13, 2010 4:07 pm

It was funny and revealing. Perhaps it would be equally entertaining, fair and balanced, if Fox ambushed Viscount Monckton over reported claims of being a member of The House of Lords and a Noble Laureate. Fair is fair.

Kevin Kilty
April 13, 2010 4:08 pm

Mod-I don’t mean to be too fussy, but the very first sentence has “begin” when I think “being” was meant–second sentence “happening” is misspelt.
REPLY: Fixed -thanks

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:11 pm

johnnythelowery (14:04:26) :
AL GORE is wrong again. He’s having everyone else’s lunch!
QOTW!
Quote of the week!

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:15 pm
April 13, 2010 4:16 pm

Who said there’s no free lunch?—Actually, he was paid to eat it. Man, what a gig. Gotta get me one of them

4 billion
April 13, 2010 4:16 pm

How come FOX doesn’t ask him about whhy we just had the hottest March on record?

R. Gates
April 13, 2010 4:21 pm

Faux News simply displays its own ignorance by such behavior…not Al Gore’s.
REPLY: as do you.- A

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:24 pm

Craig Moore (16:07:46) :
It was funny and revealing. Perhaps it would be equally entertaining, fair and balanced, if Fox ambushed Viscount Monckton…
Monckton is able to think on his feet. I’ve seen a video of him ambushed about the ‘Hitler Youth’:

April 13, 2010 4:24 pm

Lunchgate?

Bruce Cobb
April 13, 2010 4:26 pm

I love it. [snip] Al finally getting his comeuppance. Hope he did get heartburn. I hope he has trouble sleeping, and a whole host of health issues for the lies he has spread, all for his own fame, glory, and financial gain.
He doesn’t deserve the title of vice president. He barely deserves to be called an American. I can’t believe I ever voted for him.

Pamela Gray
April 13, 2010 4:27 pm

Sorry, don’t feel bad for Al at all. Own up or shut up. He places himself in this position. If it makes him feel uncomfortable he has only himself to blame. I don’t molly coddle my 4th and 5th graders (and they at least have the excuse of having disabilities, though they can’t use that excuse with me), so why should I feel sorry for a grown man?
Sounds like he is the one ambushing his audience by insisting on closed doors. Usually people who do things in secret end up having to explain themselves later on, and then the explanation does ’em in (remember the wide stance one?).

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:28 pm

4 billion (16:16:50) :
Why didn’t they ask him why there has been no statistically significant warming for 15 years?

RockyRoad
April 13, 2010 4:29 pm

Glenn (15:31:29) :
Original Mike (15:06:50) :
“I’m of two minds. On a personal level, I feel for him. But, more importantly, he has taken it upon himself to save the planet. How can he do that if he’s running from the press? If he really had the strengths of his convictions, he’d welcome the opportunity to talk to a prominent news organization. Maybe he really is in it just for the money.”
If the world needed saving, would the press be the ones to get the job done?? I seriously doubt that. I’m sure Gore does have the strength of conviction, and he said he would consider going on FOX, but he is right about ambush journalism. Do you seriously think he should have taken time out to sit down with that reporter who was chasing him around and do an interview on the spot?
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Reply:
The answer is a resounding YES!! Consider the alternative:
What if a reporter from Fox News, CBS, ABC, CNN or any of the major news outlets caught up with Mr. Watts, Mr. McIntyer, or any of the major contributors here. Would they give that reporter a few minutes to discuss what has become the most pressing issue facing mankind?
For any of these to give the excuse that they’ve got lunch would be ludicrous. And if they’re that hungry, they’d probably invite the news crew to join them for lunch.. At least Dutch! (Those Big Oil checks don’t provide much of an expense account… lol).
The problem for Gore is this: He’s once again demonstrated no willingness at all to talk to the “little people”. He’s part of the Elite. “Please don’t bother me, scum” is what his actions are saying. And he’s consistent with his message; he’s never available (I doubt he’ll appear on Fox in my lifetime, too).
It is precisely because he has so thoroughly fooled himself is the reason I feel sorry for him. Still, I will fight his cause simply because he is so evil. For one that should know that elections have consequences, Gore should know that bad policy also has consequences–in this case, deadly consequences.
Still, I can see why Gore runs–every time he opens his mouth, he says something that discredits himself and the cause for which he speaks.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:30 pm

4 billion (16:16:50) :
How come FOX doesn’t ask him about whhy we just had the hottest March on record?
Why don’t they ask you if one month of data means anything?

Richard Hill
April 13, 2010 4:30 pm

I know some politicians and they are decent folk. The problem for politicians, Al Gore included, is that they have to, MUST, listen to advice. The advice from reputable scientific organisations is consistent. Should a politician ignore the APS, Am Met Soc, NAS,,,UK Royal Society,,,, and rather take advice from some bloggers? Please, dont waste your energy on poor old Al. Put your energy into getting the scientific bodies to change their tune. Not one has, that I know of. As soon as a couple of reputable scientific organisations come out against AGW alarmism, then go back to the politicians.
Richard Hill

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:40 pm

Gore is at Duke in the video and from his talk there last Thursday:
A Gore aide said Tuesday that media members will only be allowed to record video and audio of the first five minutes of Gore’s talk at Duke University on April 8
http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/7330903/
He only allowed limited video, audio and photo of his speech, and answered only pre-screened questions.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 4:41 pm

david elder (16:24:40) :
Lunchgate?
……………………………………………………………………………………..
Wait a sec…. maybe this is quote of the week.

Frank Lee MeiDere
April 13, 2010 4:42 pm

Actually, I found the interviewer to be incredibly weak. If I were going to broach Gore on his reaction to skeptics, I’d have a list of names and positions ready in order to counter the predictable “they’re a tiny minority of nut cases” defence. She’s paid God knows how much for this kind of ineffectual “journalism”?
Bah. Gore’s bad, but at least he’s being conniving and hypocritical for a purpose (to become even richer than he already is). She, however, is just plain incompetent. He brings up conspiracy nuts who believe the moon landing was a hoax, and the only name she can bring to the table is another vice-president?
Double “bah”!

Madman
April 13, 2010 4:43 pm

What’s the point of this? It is harrassment pure and simple.
REPLY:Gosh. Do you mean, harassment like this?

or maybe this one?

1DandyTroll
April 13, 2010 4:44 pm

If you receive public funding to promote even crap, doesn’t it then stand to reason that the public has a right to know about it?

Zeke the Sneak
April 13, 2010 4:48 pm

Good to see Glenn posting again. Now if we could just locate tallbloke, we’ll have a complete collection. 🙂
And a happy birthday to anna v this month as well.

Joe
April 13, 2010 4:49 pm

Curious term on page 4 of the contract.
The sponsor must supply leads to connect from “The Vice President Gore output on an Apple Macbook Pro to their sound system”
Almost worth paying to book him just to insert that particular plug 😛

Phillep Harding
April 13, 2010 4:55 pm

re: toby (14:16:02)
Go read Mechanics Illustrated’s series on alternative energy, written back around 1965. It pointed out why none of the alternative energy suggestions, including solar in orbit and nuclear in orbit, would be blocked by the preservationists of the time. The conservationists/preservationists make the same arguments against each alternative energy source again today.
Any alternative energy source anyone tries to impliment gets blocked, by the “conservationists”.
And, that ignores whether or not the AE method is affordable or practical.

Tom T
April 13, 2010 4:57 pm

When you you say that it is not that far off to compare AGW skeptics to people who believe the earth is flat, you should be able to answer a simple question about sea ice. You might want to know that the core of the earth is not millions of degrees. I have never seen him answer a though question in any forum. If you are going to travel the globe making millions by lying, a few tough questions at inconvenient times is in not out of line.

GaryT
April 13, 2010 5:02 pm

I guess this is Al Gore’s version of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy!

toyotawhizguy
April 13, 2010 5:03 pm

Notice that in the “60 Minutes” segment, Reverend Al pulled the old “Disinformation Rule #26” trick out of his hat and compared AGW skeptics to flat-earthers. Disinformation rule #26 is employed when the perpetrator knows he’s unable to support his position with the facts. It’s an appeal to emotion, rather than to intellect.

Peter of Sydney
April 13, 2010 5:05 pm

I’m perplexed as to why anyone feels sorry for Al Gore. He’s made bucket loads of money out of the AGW scam, and will continue to do so as long as the AGW hoax remains alive. Feel sorry for the starving millions who will die as a result of the scam.

James Sexton
April 13, 2010 5:06 pm

@ Richard Hill (16:30:57) :
“I know some politicians and they are decent folk. The problem for politicians, Al Gore included, is that they have to, MUST, listen to advice. The advice from reputable scientific organisations is consistent. Should a politician ignore the APS, Am Met Soc, NAS,,,UK Royal Society,,,,”
Perhaps, but at some point, if one is a politician, or anything else with a brain, one is obliged to think for themselves. I’m one of those optimists that believe one day critical thinking will be re-engaged. One day.
On an different note, big Al is no longer a politician. He’s simply a business man(putting it as politely as I can). In days gone by, in the U.S., people engaged in selling uniformed people all sorts of things. Snake oil to remedy what ails a person would be one example. Rain men, they convinced people they could make it rain during a drought, would be another. In Europe, people were sold absolution to various sins. Brother Al is simply a combination of all. On one level, you’re correct. He can’t reasonably engage with anyone regarding climate change, he simply doesn’t have the capacity and would be a useless exercise. But, on a different level, he exemplifies what is wrong with the alarmist crowd. He tells us that we are wasteful and our use of resources will be our doom. Yet, that doesn’t seem to faze his use of resources an iota.(It’s all clearly documented.) He, obviously doesn’t allow nor desire a free flow of thoughts or ideas regarding “climate change”.(Witness the above article.) He profits enormously from the many others lacking otherwise required critical thinking skills. And does so without remorse or regard to the people he’s bilked nor the people he’s harming/killing by touting this totalitarian utopia.
Waste energy? He is exactly the type of person that should be hunted, haunted, stalked and taunted, perpetually until he and his ilk are banished from mankind.
A man once said, “Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” Today, no truer words are spoken.

Phillep Harding
April 13, 2010 5:08 pm

Could be you that can run the video are pulling it from YOUR cache, and you would lose it if you refresh your screen.
Save it out of your internet temp files, just in case?

Louis Hissink
April 13, 2010 5:10 pm

The only criticism I have is the addressing of Al Gore as “Mr Vice President”.
He isn’t the VP – so what is it with the jouralists?

James Sexton
April 13, 2010 5:12 pm

uniformed = uninformed………hahahahahahahaha I just criticized a person for the same such offense on another site……………dang. That’s a hoot!!!

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 5:14 pm

Zeke the Sneak (16:48:15) :
And what about EMSmith?

Phillep Harding
April 13, 2010 5:25 pm

PIMF.
Phillep Harding (16:55:20) “It pointed out why none of the alternative energy suggestions” should be “all of the”.

April 13, 2010 5:29 pm

if he did agree to do an interview, i am sure part of the agreement would be that none of the questions we heard in the video could be asked

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 5:33 pm

I really don’t care about any anxiety this may have given Al Gore. He has traumatized children with his movie. Do people care about that?

April 13, 2010 5:34 pm

the video isn’t available!

fhsiv
April 13, 2010 5:49 pm

When was 60 Minutes a “real news program”?
60 Minutes was the spawn of Don Hewitt, the so called the “father of modern television news”. He always swung to the left along with his friends like Dan Rather. Remember their finest hour when the “pink sweater” interview rehabilitated Slick Willy just in time for the Dem nomination and sent him on his way to be our 42nd President?
I think Al needs some of that same sort of rehabilitation about now. But, they’re just going to have to wait until just the right time for the greatest possible impact on public opinion. I’ll bet it comes just prior to the Senate vote on cap and tax, and it will be presented in the context of a response to some type of ‘denialist conspiracy’.

Editor
April 13, 2010 5:51 pm

In general, I hate “ambush journalism”, but accept that in the case of out-and-out shonks who cannot be engaged in any other way it has its place. But in those cases you need to understand what the purpose of the ambush is : it is not to get the shonk to engage, you know they won’t, it is to get across the message that the person is a shonk.
So the question to ask is “can this person be engaged without resorting to an ambush? If the answer is “yes” then an ambush is to be deplored. If the answer is “no” then an ambush can be justified.
In Al Gore’s case it appears that the answer is “no”.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 5:55 pm

Richard Hill (16:30:57) :
I know some politicians and they are decent folk. The problem for politicians, Al Gore included, is that they have to, MUST, listen to advice. The advice from reputable scientific organisations is consistent. Should a politician ignore the APS, Am Met Soc, NAS,,,UK Royal Society,
…………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Many scientific organizations rely on money from the government. They won’t change their song because they could lose funding.
“…….I see a big difference between science and “national scientific establishments”. To believe in scientific establishment is impossible, this is just another powerful rent-seeking group. Seeking rent for themselves, not for the mankind.”
~~Vaclav Klaus
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/e9df7200-19c7-11dc-99c5-000b5df10621.html

Peter S
April 13, 2010 5:57 pm

Kitefreak (15:47:26) :
Why do you guys still call him vice-president?
vice1   [vahys] Show IPA
–noun
1. an immoral or evil habit or practice.
2. immoral conduct; depraved or degrading behavior: a life of vice.
3. sexual immorality, esp. prostitution.
4. a particular form of depravity.
5. a fault, defect, or shortcoming: a minor vice in his literary style.
6. a physical defect, flaw, or infirmity: a constitutional vice.
7. a bad habit, as in a horse.
8. (initial capital letter) a character in the English morality plays, a personification of general vice or of a particular vice, serving as the buffoon.
pres·i·dent – a person who presides (the chief)
I guess, if the cap fits………………….
😉

James Allison
April 13, 2010 5:59 pm

I wonder if Al and Jo (seph) will end up in the dock together. That would be historic.

SamG
April 13, 2010 6:01 pm

I’m a skeptic but I don’t like Ambush journalism either. So what if Gore doesn’t want to talk unannounced? Yes, his refusal to debate says much but cheap tactics like this mean nothing. cheapens the debate.

4 billion
April 13, 2010 6:04 pm

Amino Acids in Meteorites (16:30:06) :
4 billion (16:16:50) :
How come FOX doesn’t ask him about why we just had the hottest March on record?
Why don’t they ask you if one month of data means anything?
If there were record cold months in the last 25 years of data then one month of record warmth wouldn’t mean much, as there has been no record cold month during the period then a record warm month suggests a warming trend.
As for fifteen years of no statistically significant Global warming, it probably no longer correct as the recent global warmth would have pushed up the warming trend, to become statistically significant as 1995-2009 warming was 93% statistically significant, 2% away from being statistically significant.

Peter S
April 13, 2010 6:04 pm

Mack28 (16:35:42) :
The ice is cracking up elsewhere:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265734/Pictured-Arctic-Survey-team-escape-disaster-ice-cracks-tent.html
Sure, a great crack opens under the tent but misses all of their gear by a foot.
If you believe that the photo was not staged, then I have a rather nice bridge you might be interested in buying.

April 13, 2010 6:14 pm

4 billion (16:16:50) :
“How come FOX doesn’t ask him about why we just had the hottest March on record?”
You don’t think they would love to ask Gore a few questions?
I know I would.
[PS: are you volunteering to be one of the 2 billion to be liquidated for the eco-cause? …Didn’t think so.]

Doug in Seattle
April 13, 2010 6:21 pm

I agree with those who abhor ambush journalism.
I would much prefer that Mr. Gore accept the challenge from Lord Moncton, but that apparently is not going to happen.
Unfortunately that leaves only occasional opportunities, like the one FOX took advantage of here, to confront Mr. Gore.

Doug in Seattle
April 13, 2010 6:25 pm

Mack28 (16:35:42) :
The ice is cracking up elsewhere:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265734/Pictured-Arctic-Survey-team-escape-disaster-ice-cracks-tent.html

Once when camping on a glacier in Canada’s Yukon half our tent fell into a crevasse.
The lesson we learned was to NOT CAMP ON THE ICE.
Life is full of such lessons. It is our choice whether to heed them.

Rob W
April 13, 2010 6:33 pm

Steve in SC (15:46:10) :
Sorry man, but my “internal compass” doesn’t even wish ill on those I disagree with (Al Gore). I realize what a tool he is, but I can still have compassion. I guess that’s the “liberal” in me……but I do appreciate your sentiments.

4 billion
April 13, 2010 6:35 pm

Smokey (18:14:57) :
You don’t think they would love to ask Gore a few questions?
FOX news asking Gore about the current normal level of Arctic sea ice and not the ongoing trend of Arctic sea ice coverage demonstrates the superficial nature of their questioning.
Rising sea levels will constitute a pretty effective ‘liquidation plan’, a 1 meter sea level rise will cause about 600 million people to become refugees, the resulting chaos would no doubt lead to severe loss of Human life.

Al Gored
April 13, 2010 6:39 pm

Mike Jonas (17:51:04) summed it up nicely.
What kind of “journalism” does Al like?
The kind that isn’t really journalism at all. Just sycophant typists who will report his slippery sermons as delivered.
This greasy used planet salesman is such an obvious fraud that I have always been astounded that anyone could possibly take him or anything he was flogging seriously.
His incredible phoney kiss of Tipper – just to ‘prove’ he wasn’t a wooden zombie – should have been the final tipping point for his credibility but so many people were in denial that more voted for him than Bush Jr. (Such marvellous choices Big Brother gives us!) Then even though nobody so richly deserved to get screwed out of that win, everybody felt sorry for him and he popped back up to capitalize on that and save the planet. As if inventing the internet was not enough.
Bad move for Al. He could have gone down in history playing the noble victim card but now he’s the joker. His name will be forever remembered in connection with this mega-fraud, with more derision and ridicule than even Madoff. He should become at least as famous as Ponzi – depending on who writes the history books of course.
Whew. I hope I lived up to my pen name.

pat
April 13, 2010 6:46 pm

13 April: BBC: Roger Harrabin: ‘Climategate’ panel set to report
The panel was nominated by the Royal Society, and climate sceptics forecast it would defend establishment science.
But the BBC understands the panel has taken a hard look at CRU methodology.
It is thought to have focued on statistical methods used by the CRU and the way uncertainties inherent in climate science may have been down-played by government bodies…
The Oxburgh panel also studied how the CRU acknowledged unavoidable scientific uncertainties in its work, especially over research into the Medieval Warm Period…
University scientists, on the other hand, are said to be have been more used to a culture in which notes are kept until papers are peer-reviewed – but then are filed in a less rigorous fashion…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8618441.stm

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 6:47 pm

4 billion (18:04:23) :
You are looking short term. And you folks always tell us to not do that….. especially when we bring up the record cold and snow that’s been happening.
But, what will you do when El Nino ends and there is no warming for more that 15 years?

Dave F
April 13, 2010 6:51 pm

If you don’t like ‘ambush journalism’, the proper starting place to focus your ire are the paparazzi that cause Princess Diana’s driver to wreck, hide in trash cans, and all around border on stalking charges trying to get the scoop on celebrities. If you are being sincere, anyway. If not then you will blather about this, and then move on. Sincerity is in the follow through. So, go ahead and start writing those letters to your Congressmen to have the paparazzi restrained, otherwise, knock it off.

James Sexton
April 13, 2010 6:59 pm

@ 4 billion (18:35:26) :
Smokey (18:14:57) :
You don’t think they would love to ask Gore a few questions?
FOX news asking Gore about the current normal level of Arctic sea ice and not the ongoing trend of Arctic sea ice coverage demonstrates the superficial nature of their questioning.
Rising sea levels will constitute a pretty effective ‘liquidation plan’, a 1 meter sea level rise will cause about 600 million people to become refugees, the resulting chaos would no doubt lead to severe loss of Human life.
Uhmm…..correct me if I’m wrong, but the prophesied rise in sea level came from the melting of the arctic ice, correct? Have you checked the ice since 2007? Further, you are apparently assuming the rise will happen over night? Sea levels, like temps, have raised and lowered constantly throughout history. Other than Noah’s flood, can you name a time in history when there was such a catastrophe that caused the SUDDEN displacement of significant portion of the world’s population? Please recall, only a generation or 2 ago, the arctic ice was significantly less than what it is today. Sorry, your story doesn’t “jive” with history nor reality.

Donald (Australia)
April 13, 2010 7:01 pm

Gore’s body language seems to cry out “fraud”. He always appears in frightened arrogance, made doubly unattractive by his ignorance of science. I wonder if he has checked the temperature of magma, yet!

Danzaroni
April 13, 2010 7:05 pm

I don’t feel bad for him. He’s made millions… which, by the way, is the temperature of the earth’s core.

Dave Worley
April 13, 2010 7:06 pm

Based upon his book cover, Gore has no sense of perspective.

Iren
April 13, 2010 7:24 pm

It was funny and revealing. Perhaps it would be equally entertaining, fair and balanced, if Fox ambushed Viscount Monckton over reported claims of being a member of The House of Lords and a Noble Laureate. Fair is fair.

I’m getting a bit tired of this canard. Lord Monckton, as a hereditary peer, is a member of the House of Lords. While he can no longer vote, he can still attend and speak.
As for the (highly discredited and debased) Noble Prize, he did, in fact, have input into the IPCC Report which won it (by highlighting an error in a chart which was subsequently amended) and apparently received a pin, just like all the other chumps involved. If you’ve ever heard him speak of it, its always been as a JOKE.

stan stendera
April 13, 2010 7:27 pm

If Al Gore appeared on my deck [God Forbid], all the birds would fearfully leave my birdfeeder, even Fat Albert, the gluttonous dove. A pigeon is a form of dove, incidentally.

James Sexton
April 13, 2010 7:31 pm

Ambush journalism? Wait, if it truly is as bad as they’ve put out, if humanity itself is on the brink of extinction, then I’d assume they’d be more than willing to engage with a contrary journalist. At least to the point of answering some rudimentary questions. Climate gate? Ice levels? If one truly believed the garbage he’s spewed, then a reasonable person would arm themselves with at the very least a good rhetorical response or two, but then, one would actually have to believe half of it was true and they’d have to have half a brain to be able to articulate the dire situation beyond reading from a script or telepromter.

Wondering Aloud
April 13, 2010 7:37 pm

Al Gore has used global warming to make himself vastly rich despite contributing nothing of benefit to society. I too have had the sad distinction of meeting and talking to him. I can’t think of another person with a higher opinion of his own intelligence coupled with a lower level of demonstrated ability. One on one he reminded me very much of the Monty Python sketch about the twit races.
Yes it was an ambush journalism attempt, big deal, Gore won’t face honest questions at any time. I have no sympathy for this fundamentally dishonest person.

4 billion
April 13, 2010 7:45 pm

Amino Acids in Meteorites (18:47:45) :
I am looking at thirty years of a warming trend via Satellite data, as well as short term monthly figures. The March record reflects the trend.
2010 has got off to a record start, with a weaker El Nino than 98, suggesting something else is also adding to the warmth, so El Nino may decline and not temperature anomalies, I guess the next 9 months will be the test.
Early 2010 warmth has strengthened the 15 year warming trend from 0.12 to 0.17 deg C, now statistically significant warming, so claims of no warming over 15 years are no longer valid.

Craig Moore
April 13, 2010 8:03 pm

Iren (19:24:36)–
Can you explain where Viscount Monckton’s name appears on the list: http://www.parliament.uk/mpslordsandoffices/mps_and_lords/alphabetical_list_of_members.cfm#M
Also at http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html Viscount Monckton is listed among the personnel. As to him it is stated: “His contribution to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 – the correction of a table inserted by IPCC bureaucrats that had overstated tenfold the observed contribution of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to sea-level rise – earned him the status of Nobel Peace Laureate. ” Now, is that statement true of false?
Why would that be equally entertaining to ask him about these matters shoving a microphone and camera in his face?

JRR Canada
April 13, 2010 8:04 pm

Al has to run, its practice for when the useful idiots who have worshipped him wake up.Al has used and cynically abused the dreamers, vaccuming up their money. I expect the backlash to bankrupt him.But he needs to run, the anger of his followers will be as irrational as their current belief in Al. 2010 is good.

April 13, 2010 8:08 pm

4 billion (19:45:25) :
The difference between statistically significant warming and no statistically significant warming is how many hundredth of a degree?

Glenn
April 13, 2010 8:09 pm

Zeke the Sneak (16:48:15) :
“Good to see Glenn posting again. Now if we could just locate tallbloke, we’ll have a complete collection. 🙂
And a happy birthday to anna v this month as well.”
Why thanks, I think. How old is she, by the way? 😎

4 billion
April 13, 2010 8:11 pm

@ James Sexton (18:59:50) :
Uhmm…..correct me if I’m wrong, but the prophesied rise in sea level came from the melting of the arctic ice, correct? Have you checked the ice since 2007? Further, you are apparently assuming the rise will happen over night? Sea levels, like temps, have raised and lowered constantly throughout history. Other than Noah’s flood, can you name a time in history when there was such a catastrophe that caused the SUDDEN displacement of significant portion of the world’s population? Please recall, only a generation or 2 ago, the arctic ice was significantly less than what it is today. Sorry, your story doesn’t “jive” with history nor reality.
Projected Sea level rise by the IPCC is due to thermal expansion of warming Sea water, the receding Arctic doesn’t effect sea levels.
The IPCC does not include sea level rise due to increased melting of land based Ice, as seen in the loss of ice from Greenland, so their projections can be seen to be too conservative.
Sure the sea rise is not occuring suddenly, I am thinking of the ongoing stress of moving populations to other land as cause for conflict, not the actual innundation of land causing loss of life.
Sea Ice charts from the early in the previous century show Arctic ice was nowhere near the current summer time lows.

NickB.
April 13, 2010 8:13 pm

Amino Acids,
You brought up a really good point earlier – we are talking about a man who has made money off of scaring children.
I’m still a little scarred from when I was in primary school and, more or less, the teachers implied we were all going to get skin cancer and die because of the holes in the ozone layer. So I admit, I’m biased on this point.
I have no sympathy for this man. If he’s a victim of anything it’s of his own spotlight.
It’s like the girl at the bar who gets drunk and starts dancing on the table… and then gets pissed off that everyone is laughing at her when she slips and falls. You can’t have it both ways.

Roger Knights
April 13, 2010 8:16 pm

toby:
Incidentally, just reading Gore’s “Our Choice”, and I would recommend it to anyone who wants a guide to alternative energy generation, not just for the people who accept AGW.

Here’s a three-part solution I endorse, spelled out in a book called “Prescription for the Planet: The Painless Remedy for Our Energy & Environmental Crises,” whose details are outlined in the first reader-review, by G. Meyerson:

This book is a must read for people who want to be informed about our worsening energy and ecology crisis. Before I read this book, I was opposed to nuclear power for the usual reasons: weapons proliferation and the waste problem. But also because I had read that in fact nuclear power was not as clean as advertised nor as cost competitive as advertised and was, moreover, not a renewable form of energy, as it depends upon depleting stocks of uranium, which would become an especially acute problem in the event of “a nuclear renaissance.” Before I read this book, I was also of the opinion that growth economies (meaning for now global capitalism) were in the process of becoming unsustainable, that, as a consequence, our global economy would itself unravel due to increasing energy costs and the inability of renewable technologies genuinely and humanely to solve the global transport problem of finding real replacements for the billions of gallons of gasoline consumed by the global economy, and the billions more gallons required to fuel the growth imperative. I was thus attracted to the most egalitarian versions of Richard Heinberg’s power down/relocalization thesis.
Blees’ book has turned many of my assumptions upside down and so anyone who shares these assumptions needs to read this book and come to terms with the implications of Blees’ excellent arguments. To wit: the nuclear power provided by Integral Fast Reactors (IFR) can provide clean, safe and for all practical purposes renewable power for a growing economy provided this power is properly regulated (I’ll return to this issue below). The transportation problems can be solved by burning boron as fuel (a 100% recyclable resource) and the waste problem inevitably caused by exponential growth can be at least partially solved by fully recycling all waste in plasma converters, which themselves can provide both significant power (the heat from these converters can turn a turbine to generate electricity) and important products: non toxic vitrified slag (which Blees notes can be used to refurbish ocean reefs), rock wool (to be used to insulate our houses–it is superior to fiber glass or cellulose) and clean syngas, which can assume the role played by petroleum in the production of products beyond fuel itself. Blees’s discussion of how these three elements of a new energy economy can be introduced and integrated is detailed and convincing. Other forms of renewable energy can play a significant role also, though it is his argument that only IFRs can deal with the awesome scale problems of powering a global economy which would still need to grow. Tom’s critique of biofuels is devastating and in line with the excellent critiques proferred by both the powerdown people and the red greens (John Bellamy Foster, Fred Magdoff); his critique of the “hydrogen economy” is also devastating (similar to critiques by Joseph Romm or David Strahan); his critique of a solar grand plan must be paid heed by solar enthusiasts of various political stripes.
The heart of this book, though, really resides with the plausibility of the IFR. His central argument is that these reactors can solve the principal problems plaguing other forms of nuclear power. It handles the nuclear waste problem by eating it to produce power: The nuclear waste would fire up the IFRs and our stocks of depleted uranium alone would keep the reactors going for a couple hundred years (factoring in substantial economic growth) due to the stunning efficiency of these reactors, an efficiency enabled by the fact that “a fast reactor can burn up virtually all of the uranium in the ore,” not just one percent of the ore as in thermal reactors. This means no uranium mining and milling for hundreds of years.
The plutonium bred by the reactor will be fed back into it to produce more energy and cannot be weaponized due to the different pyroprocessing that occurs in the IFR reactor. In this process, plutonium is not isolated, a prerequisite to its weaponization. The IFR breeders can produce enough nonweaponizable plutonium to start up another IFR in seven years. Moreover, these reactors can be produced quickly (100 per year starting in 2015, with the goal of building 3500 by 2050)), according to Blees, with improvements in modular design, which would facilitate standardization, thus bringing down cost and construction lead time.
Importantly, nuclear accidents would be made virtually impossible due to the integration of “passive” safety features in the reactors, which rely on “the inherent physical properties of the reactor’s components to shut it down.” (129)
………………..
Still, if such a new energy regime as Blees proposes can solve the climate crisis, this is not to say, in my opinion, that a growth regime is fully compatible with a healthy planet and thus a healthy humanity. There are other resources crucial to us–the world’s soils, forests and oceans come to mind–that a constantly expanding global economy can destroy even if we recycle all the world’s garbage and stop global warming.“

Here’s the Amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/Prescription-Planet-Painless-Remedy-Environmental/dp/1419655825/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236568501&sr=1-1

NickB.
April 13, 2010 8:18 pm

Happy 29th Anna V!
I’m turning 29 again this year too ; )

Chris
April 13, 2010 8:26 pm

The job of a journalist is to ask the tough questions. If the subject will not make himself available, then you have to “ambush” him. It may make the reporter look like a jerk, but that’s his job. Sometimes you gotta get your hands dirty.
So stop whining about “ambush journalism.” It’s called “journalism.” If reporters didn’t pursue politicians, etc., aggressively, where would we be as a nation?
Oh, wait…

savethesharks
April 13, 2010 8:33 pm

4 billion (18:35:26) :
There is no sea level rise [at least catastrophic], and even if there was, it certainly has nothing to do with Arctic sea ice, which is oceanic and does not change the sea levels one bit.
Chris
Norfolk Virginia, USA

Zeke the Sneak
April 13, 2010 8:36 pm

Amino Acids in Meteorites (17:14:26) :
Zeke the Sneak (16:48:15) :
And what about EMSmith?

You’re right. As a matter of fact, it is getting to be a real morgue around here.

Zeke the Sneak
April 13, 2010 8:40 pm

Glenn (20:09:43) :
Why thanks, I think. How old is she, by the way? 😎

I think she said it is the big 7-O.
There you are anna v —/–(@
[supposed to be a rose]

4 billion
April 13, 2010 9:08 pm

in Texas (20:08:01) :
The difference between statistically significant warming and no statistically significant warming is how many hundredth of a degree?
Sure, its nothing, over a hundred years though?
@ savethesharks (20:33:20) :
Some places are already being effected by rising sea levels causing more erosion.
http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/risingseas/NCHatterasRodanthe99-10RBraasch.jpg

James Sexton
April 13, 2010 9:10 pm

4 billion (20:11:20) :
@ James Sexton (18:59:50) :
……….
Projected Sea level rise by the IPCC is due to thermal expansion of warming Sea water,………….. I am thinking of the ongoing stress of moving populations to other land as cause for conflict, not the actual innundation of land causing loss of life.
Sea Ice charts from the early in the previous century show Arctic ice was nowhere near the current summer time lows.
Cool, now I know where you’re coming from. If we lived in a vacuum, a simple test would suffice. Get a bucket of sea water, raise the temp 2 degrees and then tell me how much expansion you’ve observed, then extrapolate. Then tell me about the impending catastrophe. Now consider, if as been postulated, ice melts and consider area gained vs area lost, then would we not have more land than less to live upon? I suspect we would given the properties of ice vs sea water and the resulting area coverage. I’ve too many beers in me to come up with the formulas, but it seems the alarmism in this regard is a bit over done. But, I’d be happy to entertain your thoughts on this subject. Please note, while many consider land coverage to be 2 dimensional, in regards to sea level rise, it is 3 and more coned shaped than cylindrical.

JDN
April 13, 2010 9:11 pm

4 billion trolls can’t be wrong 🙂

David Ball
April 13, 2010 9:17 pm

When someone refuses to answer questions, I have all the information I need.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 9:32 pm

4 billion (19:45:25) :
so claims of no warming over 15 years are no longer valid.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
There has been no statistically significant warming for 15 years.
That’s the truth.
Your suggestions are what is not valid.

James Sexton
April 13, 2010 9:41 pm

@4 billion (20:11:20) :…..nvm, apparently, while sea level rise is going to be our impending doom, we were(I was) considering it wrong………http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/13/ipcc-sea-level-prediction-not-scary-enough/#comment-367475
As always, the alarmist crowd changes the goal posts before one can really sink their teeth into an alleged potential catastrophe. (yeh, mixed metaphors)

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 9:43 pm

4 billion (20:11:20) :
Sea Ice charts from the early in the previous century show Arctic ice was nowhere near the current summer time lows.
Well, if your information is correct then it is because that time frame was closer to the Little Ice Age. So there would have been more ice in the Arctic.
But one more thing….. you folks are always telling us we can rely on non-instrument information. But here you are relying on some. I guess when it serves your purposes you do it. If it hurts your purposes you don’t.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
April 13, 2010 9:49 pm

4 billion (20:11:20) :
Projected Sea level rise by the IPCC
Just one last thing, and that’s it for my exchanges with you here; aren’t there ‘-gate’ problems with the IPCC? Because I’ve been seeing a lot of about that for a few months now.
The answer is yes, there’s lots of problems with the IPCC.

Zeke the Sneak
April 13, 2010 9:53 pm

Moderators, that’s fine if you don’t post those. I don’t care at all either way. But I just meant it is a morgue around here without tallbloke, emsmith, etc.. Whatever, lol

Peter Miller
April 13, 2010 10:06 pm

“How come FOX doesn’t ask him about why we just had the hottest March on record?”
Might just have something to do with the peak of the latest El Nino, when global temperatures are around 0.7 degrees C warmer than ‘normal’ – just like the last El Nino in 1998 and the next one in 2xxx.
Just one of those inconvenient truths.

Anton
April 13, 2010 10:06 pm

4 billion (18:35:26) said:
“Rising sea levels will constitute a pretty effective ‘liquidation plan’, a 1 meter sea level rise will cause about 600 million people to become refugees, the resulting chaos would no doubt lead to severe loss of Human life.”
This is a joke, right? 600 million REFUGES from a 1 meter rise in sea levels over a hundred years or more (now changed to 30 years by the alarmists)? A rise so slow and imperceptible, that people could periodically simply step a few inches back and continue business as usual?
In any event, these predictions are ridiculous, and have been wrong for a quarter century. Have you seen any sea level rise ANYWHERE in that time? And don’t tell us about the supposedly drowning Maldives, the biggest hoax going, or a man-made sandbar (misrepresented as an “island” by AGW propagandists) in India submerging from all the development around it.
Take a trip to Key West. Duval Street goes from end-to-end, and it just as dry now as it was when it was first cleared. Key West is at sea level, flat as pancake, and always in danger from hurricanes and their flooding. But, when the storms pass, the water goes back to normal.
The doomsayers of today are no different from those of every other generation; there are just more of them. Their negative beliefs about climate mirror their negative beliefs about everything.

STEPHEN PARKER
April 13, 2010 10:32 pm

If he refuses to answer questions or debate,then this is what he will get,and quite right too

4 billion
April 13, 2010 10:32 pm

Amino Acids in Meteorites (21:32:29) :
4 billion (19:45:25) :
so claims of no warming over 15 years are no longer valid.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
There has been no statistically significant warming for 15 years.
That’s the truth.
Your suggestions are what is not valid.
……………………………………………………………………………………………………………
I am only working with ball park figures, the warming between 1995 and 2009 was 93% statistically significant at around 0.14 degC, now with the warming of 2010 the trend is bumped up to 0.17 degC putting the warming over the magical 95% line of statistical significance.

UK Sceptic
April 13, 2010 10:47 pm

About that “no press allowed” sign. Is that Gore NOT hiding the decline (to comment)?

4 billion
April 13, 2010 10:49 pm

James Sexton (21:41:08) :
@4 billion (20:11:20) :…..nvm, apparently, while sea level rise is going to be our impending doom, we were(I was) considering it wrong………http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/13/ipcc-sea-level-prediction-not-scary-enough/#comment-367475
As always, the alarmist crowd changes the goal posts before one can really sink their teeth into an alleged potential catastrophe. (yeh, mixed metaphors)
The IPCC didn’t include Sea level rise due to melting Ice, seems weird, but whatever. So for the sake of not moving the goal posts we should ignore the recently observed Ice melt from Greenland and Antarctica?

REPLY:
Yes, becuase it occurs only in a small percentage of the total area.

hengav
April 13, 2010 10:53 pm

Moderators… please… troll alert… 4 Billion…can’t… breath…
Statistics is a precise thing. To pull out your +15 potion of linear trend and claim it as statistically significant is just pure fantasy. That ain’t statistics.
Must…stop…feeding…

Erik
April 13, 2010 11:42 pm

Al Gore educating the media (BBC) about journalism :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8340238.stm

David44
April 14, 2010 12:14 am

Steve in SC (15:46:10)
Wow, you got to meet Cheney too?!

Martin Brumby
April 14, 2010 12:57 am

@Amino Acids in Meteorites (17:55:58) :
Hill (16:30:57)
Don’t forget that another reason why the “experts” relied upon by scientifically illiterate politicians are of one voice on AGW, is the fact that they were specifically selected and appointed just BECAUSE they were / are alarmists.
That has been the case since Thatcher appointed the warmist crooks John Houghton & Crispin Tickell to advise her. Major, Blair & Brown have carried on the same process. Alarmists to a man. Chosen as such.
And (heaven forfend) if we get Prime Minister Dave Boy at Downing Street next month, he’s already got Zac Goldsmith and the Fiends of the Earth lined up to advise him.
[C’mon, people! DON’T feed the trolls!]

4 billion
April 14, 2010 1:41 am

REPLY: Yes, becuase it occurs only in a small percentage of the total area.
Greenland’s area of ice loss is increasing:
Spread of ice mass loss into northwest Greenland observed by GRACE and GPS
Greenland’s main outlet glaciers have more than doubled their contribution to global sea level rise over the last decade. Recent work has shown that Greenland’s mass loss is still increasing. Here we show that the ice loss, which has been well-documented over southern portions of Greenland, is now spreading up along the northwest coast, with this acceleration likely starting in late 2005.
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2010/2010GL042460.shtml
Animation of expanding Greenland ice loss from Wahr 2010
http://lemond.colorado.edu/~wahr/greenland.movie.mpeg
REPLY: Still insignificant

Baa Humbug
April 14, 2010 2:52 am

The last thing Big Al needs is lunch. Some exercise wouldn’t go astray either.

Shevva
April 14, 2010 4:45 am

L Ron Hubbard has nothing on Mr Gore as i think Mr Gore realised that aliens and AGW don’t mix.

John Galt
April 14, 2010 6:05 am

I’m going to side with Gore on this one. Ambush journalism isn’t journalism, it’s sensationalism. The man is a buffoon and a huckster, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t right in this case.

April 14, 2010 6:19 am

Lunch is more important than telling those pesky Fox News viewers how wrong they are.
I guess so, as it looks like he has never missed a hot meal yet!

Henry chance
April 14, 2010 6:39 am

It was so close to calling him President. Now you see he was only a few chad short of winning. I am happy to call him Vice president in exchange for Never calling him President. Now that would have been an ugly tipping point.
I do think the “Vice” part of his title is understated by about 430%.

NickB.
April 14, 2010 6:50 am

Anthony,
I think, in the interests of civil and constructive conversation, I sense an opportnity here. What if there were style recommendations for WUWT like the following:
1.) If you are talking about a trend specify the dates for it
2.) When talking about temperature specify the temp set being used or at the very least surface vs. sat
3.) If talking about ice extent specify Arctic/Antarctic and summer (September) vs. winter (March)
4.) Same goes for TSI reconstructions – some are more variable than others as demonstrated by the recent Svalgaard-Scafetti discussion
As well demonstrated by that horrible IPCC chart posted recently, in many data sets just about any trend can be demonstrated – saying “the trend is X” without specifying the timeframe just adds to the confusion.
The same goes for the temp sets (depending on what you want to say/show you will probably have a favorite)… and I think it was an article by Joe Romm that accused the “anti-science” crowd of focusing on the wrong ice extent (meaning arctic max) – I guess out of the 4 (actic/antarctic max/min) there is only one “right” one but anyway. Debating the relative importance of X vs. Y measures for describing something (Z) is a valid conversation, but that’s different than saying Z is doing this (because of X) without specifying X as your basis of analysis… when Y implies something different.
I’m not saying these should be binding rules or anything, just recommendations. It just seems like there is a lot of unnecessary/recurring arguing/confusion because people fail to specify what they’re talking about. In my world (I work for really big corporation – which is not Big Oil/Coal/T in case that’s important) the mantra is to look for opportunities in every challenge and, to me, this seems like an opportunity to make the conversations here more constructive – even if it’s only for the active commenters (like me).
Cheers!

Original Mike
April 14, 2010 7:28 am

@Glenn (15:31:29): “Do you seriously think he [Gore] should have taken time out to sit down with that reporter who was chasing him around and do an interview on the spot?”
Why not? Monckton showed us how it’s done. See the video Amino Acids posted at 16:24:01. Alternatively, he could accept the invitation to appear on O’Reilly’s show (and don’t tell me you consider Gore’s “I’ll consider it” sincere).

April 14, 2010 9:40 am

Love it, that’s good, esp. that first video.

kcom
April 14, 2010 11:30 am

Though I don’t agree with Gore, I feel bad for him. I, for one, don’t like ambush journalism, no matter who it’s practiced on.
And I, for one, don’t like ambush pseudo-science (“the debate is over”), especially when it’s practiced on me. Al Gore’s been allowed to skulk about behind closed doors for far too long. If we have to drag him out into the light, then so be it. He needs to defend his position in an open forum, to answer real questions posed by real interviewers, to account for himself and not creep about in the dark working feverishly to destroy my freedom and my independence and my prosperity. It’s like taxation without representation, and it rankles just as much. The debate is over? Yeah, right. It hasn’t even started where Mr. Gore is concerned.

nanny_govt_sucks
April 14, 2010 12:23 pm

Oh, my gosh! At least sucker him in with a few softball questions! Come on guys. Be a little smarter with the interview tactics.

Glenn
April 14, 2010 2:47 pm

4 billion (21:08:59) :
Some places are already being effected by rising sea levels causing more erosion.
http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/risingseas/NCHatterasRodanthe99-10RBraasch.jpg
Hilarious! North Carolina increase is reported to be around 0.1 inches per year. If the house shown was built 20 years ago, and now is just at sea level, it would have stood about 2 inches above sea level when built. There are high surfs, hurricanes there, and beaches and sand bars erode and rebuild. It’s obvious what happened in the pictures.
“Currently, MSL is rising at a rate of approximately 2mm per year (0.08 inches/yr) if averaged over the last hundred years, and around 3mm per year (0.12 inches/yr) over the last fifteen years.”
http://www.nccoastalmanagement.net/slr/NC%20Sea-Level%20Rise%20Assessment%20Report%202010%20-%20CRC%20Science%20Panel.pdf

Glenn
April 14, 2010 2:56 pm

Original Mike (07:28:59) :
@Glenn (15:31:29): “Do you seriously think he [Gore] should have taken time out to sit down with that reporter who was chasing him around and do an interview on the spot?”
“Why not? Monckton showed us how it’s done. See the video Amino Acids posted at 16:24:01. Alternatively, he could accept the invitation to appear on O’Reilly’s show (and don’t tell me you consider Gore’s “I’ll consider it” sincere).”
Gore isn’t Monckton, and not the same event. Was Gore just looking to grab a burger at the drive through, or did he have an appointment with someone? This is crappy journalism, I’d call paparazzi journalism, which is not journalism, but sensationalism for profit. And I seriously doubt that had Gore stopped in his tracks, immediately went and sat down at a table and invited the reporter to a question and answer session (both ways), the reporter would have participated on camera and posted it. Maybe after some editing, though.
No, I doubt Gore will consider going on Oreilly’s talk show. I wouldn’t either, with a person that stoops to that level. That video like this is publicized is dirty tactics and disgusting to me. Just my opinion.

kcom
April 14, 2010 5:24 pm

“No, I doubt Gore will consider going on Oreilly’s talk show.”
So answer this: Whose show will he go on?
And I mean a show where they’ll ask him real questions and he doesn’t get to insist on five pages of pre-conditions and evasions as the basis for his appearance.

Larry Sheldon
April 14, 2010 5:44 pm

Lotta people just want to eat their waffle.

Glenn
April 14, 2010 6:03 pm

kcom (17:24:11) :
“No, I doubt Gore will consider going on Oreilly’s talk show.”
So answer this: Whose show will he go on?
“And I mean a show where they’ll ask him real questions and he doesn’t get to insist on five pages of pre-conditions and evasions as the basis for his appearance.”
He isn’t required to go on any show. His beliefs and statements are well known. You and some others seem to want to *make* news, but that isn’t journalism.

David L
April 16, 2010 4:58 am

Anyone that pays Algore $100,000 to talk about anything needs their head examined