I was reminded by Richard North via email today of this grouchy wordplay from NSIDC when Joe Romm wrote up a piece last year on this subject:
Exclusive: New NSIDC director Serreze explains the “death spiral” of Arctic ice, brushes off the “breathtaking ignorance” of blogs like WattsUpWithThat
Climate Progress, June 5th, 2009
Okay, let’s compare that to what Dr. Serreze said this week in an interview with The Sunday Times:
“In retrospect, the reactions to the 2007 melt were overstated. The lesson is that we must be more careful in not reading too much into one event,” Serreze said.
Source: The Sunday Times – Arctic ice recovers from the great melt
A timeline for the “breathtakingly ignorant” follows.
2007: record Arctic ice minimum in 2007 – big news, unprecedented, shocking, Navy postgraduate school scientist says Arctic summers to be ice-free ‘by 2013′
2008: ditto, this year’s ice recovery is just a blip, it’s really caught in a “death spiral”
2009: ditto, this recovery for a second year means nothing – Arctic continues death spiral, you people are breathtakingly ignorant
2010: Arctic sea ice approaches normal for this time of year, first time since 2001 – “…reactions to the 2007 melt were overstated…we must be more careful in not reading too much into one event”
HR (10:06:15) :
“Is Joe Romm always grouchy?”
Ah, yes. Welcome to the “indefensible blog”
Romm is reporting to us from Venus, where he has set up operations to finally prove that CO2 does in fact create global warming.
A better description would be “breathtaking arrogance” by people paid from our tax dollars. Besides the federal tax dollars, Colorado taxes go to pay for salaries and operations at NSIDC/CU.
Having said that, most people at NSIDC are very responsive an thoughtful.
Arctic-roos are back on the air, and it’s good news regarding sea-ice…:-)
http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_area.png
I found this screenshot from the now “disappeared” video, where he holds up his 5 fingers.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FxwAAcmkxpk/SUSQBK70emI/AAAAAAAAAYw/S4ebCTx4Ovk/s1600/al%2Bgore%2Bnews%2Bpicture.jpg
The video was from the german TV channel ZDF.
I see a new trend and I am quite sure people like Serreze won’t like it.
AGW propaganda has backfired and ClimateGate reached the core of the UNIPCC!
Governments all over the world now are reducing their budgets for climate science.
Like Canada for example:
http://www.heliogenic.net/2010/04/04/harper-derails-the-gravy-train/
The scientists have done their job and the UN traveling circus of at least 20.000 fat cats scrambled to save the world only worry is if they decide for a permanent host for their meetings or stay on the fast lane with exotic destinations like Bali, Morocco, Denmark or Mexico.
http://www.heliogenic.net/2010/04/04/never-happen/
We will be debunking warmist for many years to come while the UN fat cats continue to skim the revenues of our economies.
Happy Eastern to all of you.
Even thou Anthony is great for the time and effort to put this blog on and put on the good fight, it would be for naught if it wasn’t for the fans of the blog and the good people who have responded with great answers and insightful posts and articles. I’ve learned so much from this site that I can only say, Thank you very much! Good job.
Joe Bastardi European Blog
Joe Bastardi’s Europe Column
POSTED: 6:59 p.m. April 4, 2010
“Heh Check this out:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/03/quote-of-the-week-33-what-no-death-spiral /#more-18153
This is from the blog: Whats up With That, a time line about arctic sea ice announcements since the 2007 meltdown, which is when the PDO turned cod again, The article in the Sunday Times covers what is being said now
tp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7086746.ece
but here is the timeline of pronouncements:
2007: record Arctic ice minimum in 2007 big news, unprecedented, shocking, Navy postgraduate school scientist says Arctic summers to be ice-free Tby 2013
2008: ditto, this years ice recovery is just a blip, its really caught in a death spiralS
2009: ditto, this recovery for a second year means nothing Arctic continues death spiral, you people are breathtakingly ignorant
2010: Arctic sea ice approaches normal for this time of year, first time since 2001 “reactions to the 2007 melt were overstated we must be more careful in not reading too much into one event”
In the meantime the daily SOI is now well above 0 ( its been running over plus 20 the past two days and by the 15th, the running 30 day will be positive. ciao for now”
http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp?partner=accuweather
Bah, ignorance is a known state in which all men reside. Science came about as a means to alleviate ignorance. Alas, the realm of science is housed by men, thus corruption and self-will abounds. To push towards a reduction of ignorance is a noble undertaking, one to be admired and lauded. Working to confuse and contemn the scientific process is blatantly and unforgivably evil. Yet history is replete with it. Up the struggle!
Unreal Reality:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/04/unreal-reality.html
Anyone else just seeing another professional student defending his religion?
I Gordon Brown proposing to print climate money!
Anyhow, if we don’t stop mrons like Brown now they will make mess that is going to take generations to clean up!
http://www.thegwpf.org/news/766-is-gordon-brown-proposing-to-print-climate-money.html
Death Spiral for Warmists!
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/04/death-spiral-for-warmists.html
“In retrospect, the reactions to the 2007 melt were overstated. The lesson is that we must be more careful in not reading too much into one event,” Serreze said.
Emotions and appearances can be misleading…it happens to everyone.
“So we feel like we’ve really learned a lot on our personal scientific journey,” he added.
🙂
Arctic sea ice has declined for the third year in a row and is right on the trend line.
http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20100406_Figure3.png
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2008/040708.html
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2009/040609.html
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ (as of 2010/Apr/9)
“Average sea ice extent for March 2008 was 15.2 million square kilometers (5.9 million square miles).”
“Sea ice extent averaged… March 2009 was 15.16 million square kilometers (5.85 million square miles).”
“Arctic sea ice extent a… March 2010 was 15.10 million square kilometers (5.83 million square miles).”
How many folks making comments here have a science degree, have passed 4th year courses in analyzing stochastic processes, or passed 4th year theory of statistical inference courses? Just asking.
Extracting trends, or patterns such as the 22 year sun spot cycle, from the noise of weather and ice area observation takes a lot more than 4 years of data.