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Above: The Cunderdin Australian Climate Reference Network station, a BoM official photo. Source: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/map/stations/010035.shtml
There’s an effort to the surfacestations.org project underway in Australia to have a look at the quality of siting of stations, see here.
They write:
We have now looked at 18 separate stations (out of a total of 103), in three separate categories. So far, not one of these stations meets the criteria of being “away from large urban centres” and the CRN quality standards of NOAA/NCDC in terms of siting.
Unless there is a dramatic improvement in the remaining 85 stations, we would be well justified in asking the questions: “Just how reliable is the RCS network data and how valid are any conclusions that are drawn from them”?
h/t to Andrew Bolt in Is this how to measure our warming?
Along these lines, there’s a new paper out related to station siting, but it is in French. I could use Google translate, but it tends to do a poor job of technical papers. It is 14 pages long, with a lot of white space. Any volunteers? Leave a comment if you can. – Anthony
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There isa tall, white, cylindrical thing to the right of that garbage can, with a wide top. What is that?
/Mr Lynn
AlexB (19:11:03) :
Inside the house on the right next to the oven.
Careful now, don’t give James Hansen any ideas.
Zeke the Sneak (19:16:48) :
Give me an infrared picture an I will show you exactly where it is!
Funny!
In 10/07 I did a translation of the temperature portion of Michel Leroy’s 1999 Meteo France technical note #35 on site classification. This was the origin of the CRN classifications, but a little more forgiving on minor infractions of the distance limits. I’m pretty sure I sent you a copy at the time.
I held off on distributing it more generally, as I never got the approval I requested from Leroy for the translation. Is this what was published?
As for the photo, there appears to be a derelict Stephenson screen against the fence, behind the green dumpster, wedged in between the green storage unit and the taller side fence.
Bill Tuttle (03:34:53) :
It’s behind Wado’s hat…
Do you mean Waldo? Where’s Waldo!
Amino Acids in Meteorites (07:20:06) :
Do you mean Waldo? Where’s Waldo!
Standing in front of the weather station…
It’s behind Wado’s hat…
Do you mean Waldo? Where’s Waldo!
Just out for lunch at CRU
🙂
At first I thought it was behind the green garbage bin, but now I think it may be the white thing in the pile of junk. The picture is too fuzzy to really say much of anything.
Good article, but overly optimistic, I think, so long as there are huge financial incentives to keep the pursuit of ‘carbon’ alive.
The ‘argument from ignorance’ (see “The first rejoinder” in the article) only works well when there are extra-scientific (i.e. political) motives for choosing an explanation, even when there is no evidence for it. Unfortunately, those are the motives that predominate in “the climate wars.”
/Mr Lynn
I thought it was supposed to be a continuous record?
If they moved the place where they’re measuring temperature and other stuff, then the record is no longer continuous.
The aerodrome location also looks somewhat greener than a lot of the surrounding area. They wouldn’t by any chance be watering to keep the dust down at the aerodrome? It’s supposed to be a “natural” surface around the screen. No shade except when the sun is a few degrees above the horizon. (i.e. last/first quarter hour or so of the day)
The station at Lake Grace (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/map/stations/010592.shtml) appears to have a (new) nearby sealed car parking area as well as a railway line. Google street view of the area shows nothing interesting except the local copper stopped for a feed at Rosie’s.
On the back porch, right outside the door.
…and try this one – Winton Post Office – with water sprinkler on the go!
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/map/stations/037051.shtml
There is a shadow on the white fence that has a “screen” look to it. I think it is right next to that white washed fence.
If we can find the air conditioner condenser, we will know about where it is.
Winton is a giggle. Google Streetview still/also shows sprinkler operating.
(http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=-22.3908+143.0386&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.822921,88.857422&ie=UTF8&ll=-22.390565,143.038945&spn=0.003284,0.005423&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=-22.390747,143.038916&panoid=V1fM0UQ_1EDbhX5QxV3N3Q&cbp=12,70.53,,0,24.5)
yklktk (08:54:21) :
…and try this one – Winton Post Office – with water sprinkler on the go!
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/map/stations/037051.shtml
Within distance of the evaporation pan! Good site all around.
They make an interesting graph. Lots of homogenizing.
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/MartinGAtkins/gunderdin1.png
Tim Clark (10:16:01) :
yklktk (08:54:21) :
…and try this one – Winton Post Office – with water sprinkler on the go!
That’ll be reported as anthropogenic induced flooding.
Ralph-
>>I believe it’s been located amongst/behind the stacked bricks
>>to protect it from male dingos
“Dingos steal temp gauges, as well as kids??”
Steal it? No. I thought they placed it behind the brick barricade to prevent dingos from creating spurtious warming.
Stevenson went walkabout, obviously.
Grant (12:57:02) :
I thought they placed it behind the brick barricade to prevent [male] dingos from creating spurtious warming.
Ow. Ow-ow-ow-ow-ow.
Is’t standing on top of the container or right behind it?
10035 stopped taking temperature obs about three years ago, after nearly a decade of parallel obs with 10286 (Cunderdin Airport).
A new map has been under preparation over recent months and will be available late next week.
In the meanwhile here is the Google Maps link to the site –
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Cunderdin+Aerodrome,+Cunderdin+Western+Australia+6407&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=44.976532,69.169922&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FfWQHf4dGJn8Bg&split=0&hq=&hnear=Cunderdin+Aerodrome&ll=-31.622855,117.218263&spn=0.010561,0.016887&t=h&z=16
why do we have to guess why cant you just show us. Normally i love this web site but not being able to click and find out where it is , is annoyning
So WHERE is it already! Are you going to tell us?