Quote of the week #31: Bubba disses the Goreacle

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I never thought I’d find myself agreeing with and laughing along with form President Bill Clinton. But when his former boss disses the Goreacle, perhaps it is time to rethink some views.

From the Wall Street Journal, this gem of a sound bite:

Former President Bill Clinton made a return to Washington’s public life, speaking to the annual Gridiron Dinner as a stand-in for President Barack Obama […]

Elsewhere in his remarks, he noted he was speaking on the night before the start of spring, “otherwise known to Al Gore as proof of global warming.”

Source:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/03/21/clinton-returns-to-washington-needling-himself-obama-and-the-press/

h/t to Dr. Leif Svalgaard

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73 thoughts on “Quote of the week #31: Bubba disses the Goreacle

  1. Tha big dawg was in great form.
    Best line, talking about health care:
    “It may not happen in my lifetime, or Dick Cheney’s, but hopefully by Easter”

  2. “otherwise known to Al Gore as proof of global warming.”
    BURST OUT LAUGHING!!

  3. But what a tongue and Oh! what brains were in that parrot’s head
    It took two men to understand one half the words he said.
    Kindest Regards

  4. If there is one good think that’s come from Climatgate it is that more people feel it is OK to speak freely and even make jokes about the more ridiculous statements that some of the followers (‘true believers’?) come up with. I watched a show on the history channel this evening about the geological history of the world. I was surprised when they stated that regardless of how much CO2 our factories produced, the only effect would be to prolong the current 15,000 year interglacial a bit and delay the start of the next ice age.

  5. A Democrat with a sense of humor, this IS news 😛
    Reminds me of the joke about the humor section in the lesbian book store…
    THERE ISN’T ONE!!!!
    Bah dah dum. Don’t forget to tip your waitress I’ll be here all week
    /sarcoff 😛

  6. I expect to see the Gore-gone (mythical creature that involved snake-like qualities) in my neck of the woods very soon…..( north of Montreal, Qc, Can.)
    We are on the edge of that big anomaly over Baffin Island. It is about 6-7 C warmer than usual here and has been for the last month. Instead of two or three feet of snow still on the ground, the grass is greening, the birds are courting and the tulips are sprouting in the garden….about 6 weeks ahead of time…
    If that anomaly ever fades quickly, I will have a lot of replanting to do this summer.

  7. Duncan (18:09:32) :
    Tha big dawg was in great form.
    Best line, talking about health care:
    “It may not happen in my lifetime, or Dick Cheney’s, but hopefully by Easter”
    ===
    Yeah, that was a good one.
    On second thought, it was kinda cruel to Cheney.

  8. Wren (19:02:42) :
    “On second thought, it was kinda cruel to Cheney.”
    Wren, Bubba is just jealous of Dick Cheney: click

  9. My birdfeeder is located in the South where we have a bird you Yankees have never heard of, the scythebird, also called the bubbabird. It has a razor sharp knifelike bill which it uses, after “bubbaing up” to another bird, to stab it’s victim which it then eats.
    I’m not sure even my intrepid cat, Killowatt, could handle it.

  10. I never thought I would openly applaud Bill Clinton till this wonderful day. Classic. Too bad global warming is Gore’s answer for fall as well.

  11. PJB (18:53:22) :
    If Gore is coming you had better plan to replant 🙂 However, your tulips should be fine.
    ———-
    This is the first time I’ve seen anything to admire in Slick Willy.

  12. Just realized I didn’t even get that joke right, was supposed to be about a feminist book store but anyway… no offence intended to anyone, just a (poor?) attempt at humor. Cheers!

  13. I’m always impressed by the way a science geek whose first language, possibly even his second, third or … is NOT English (or ‘Melican or, as some of us say, Nacireman ), stays abreast of this stuff. Keep this in mind as you read that. Clinton was NOT mocking Gore. He was mocking us. After an impossible healthcare win tonight, they are coming after us.

  14. Brings to mind an ancient saying known to old-timers:
    “Many a true word is said in jest.”
    On topic, here’s a well done Al Gore ribbing put to music by m4gw, the same folks that did “Hide the decline”:

  15. At first appalled by Clinton’s election I now realize how wrong I was. Oh, how I wish for a return of those 8 years. The refrain from those on the left to those on the right who condemned the Clinton presidency was: What is it about 8 years of peace and prosperity that you object to?The new guy in the white house alluded to the idea that the Clinton presidency was an ineffectual one. Perhaps (in the presence of 10% unemployment, an anemic and jobless recovery, uncertainty, and so on) we could ask him: What is it about 8 years of peace and prosperity that you object to?

  16. Robert E. Phelan (19:46:13) :
    I’m always impressed by the way a science geek whose first language, possibly even his second, third or … is NOT English (or ‘Melican or, as some of us say, Nacireman ), stays abreast of this stuff.

    I was going to comment pretty much the same thing after seeing the h/t to Leif on the paper in the Forest Fire Journal.

  17. vigilantfish (19:32:36) :
    PJB (18:53:22) :
    If Gore is coming you had better plan to replant 🙂 However, your tulips should be fine.
    OMG you’re right!
    Wherever he goes,
    it always snows,
    that carbon trading cretin,
    preceeds wind and snow and sleetin,

  18. 5 truths about AGW* I hold to be self-evident:
    1) Al Gore says we need to ask ourselves some tough questions about AGW, but when Al Gore gets asked some tough questions about AGW, Al Gore tells security to get tough with those asking the questions.
    2) AGW proponents must have belonged to a cult of house painters in their previous lives because they have a predilection for whitewashing. Michael Mann inquiry? Whitewash. UEA inquiry? Whitewash. IPCC independent inquiry? Whitewash. Further note how AGW proponents believe that painting all our rooftops white will reflect sunlight and help mitigate AGW.
    3) AGW is really about global cooling because it is the ultimate snowball: using middle-class taxpayers money to fund the lies that will create the policies that will tax middle-class taxpayers even more to fund even more lies that will create the next wave of policies to further tax middle-class taxpayers even more etc.
    4) For some reason, AGW scientist-advocates are all scared spitless for at least a week when they hear the name “Steve McIntyre”. Which is a good thing, because that means less AGW-causing methane gas is released and helps to offset the bullshit coming out of their mouths.
    5) Incredibly, everything wrong in our world can be traced back to AGW. Birds shrinking? AGW. Snowstorms? AGW. Drought? Hurricanes? Famine? Poverty? Violence? Glaciers melting? Polar bears dying? All caused by AGW. The truth is, Al Gore is solely responsible for all of these problems, especially for killing the polar bears. He really is. Because Al Gore created AGW. Remember to tell your kids.
    ===
    *AGW = Al Gore’s Wallet.

  19. Hi Al,
    Do you ever have any regrets?
    You know, like picking Joe for your running mate?
    Obama almost picked you.
    Wouldn’t that have been swell?
    Just imagine you as VP right now.
    Instead of this silly crap you’re working on and getting embarassed.
    Poor Al.
    BTW
    http://oohja.com/x9a25
    More spring snow; 4 deaths now blamed on storm

  20. a jones (18:38:48) : But what a tongue and Oh! what brains were in that parrot’s head
    And why the sea is boiling hot–
    And whether pigs have wings.

  21. I thought that Bill Clinton was magnificent as US President and a complete failure as a husband.

  22. And he put in an appeal for continued help to Haiti, where he and former President George W. Bush became reconstruction ambassadors at the request of President Obama after the recent earthquake there. He urged the journalists: “Keep it in the public eye for the next two or three years,” while international aid helps Haiti rebuild. “Hold us accountable.”
    HOLY SAMOLEY. Bill Clinton actually asking to be held accountable for something.

  23. Tom in Texas (19:58:43) :
    I was going to comment pretty much the same thing after seeing the h/t to Leif on the paper in the Forest Fire Journal.
    English is my 5th language…

  24. Anthony, heads up:
    “Improving Predictions of Climate Change and its Impacts: Media Briefing
    Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:05:00 -0500
    NSF invites reporters to participate on Monday, March 22 at 11:00 a.m., EDT
    On March 22 at 11:00 a.m., EDT, officials from the National Science Foundation (NSF) and the U.S. Departments of Agriculture and Energy will discuss the launch of an interagency program aimed at generating predictions of climate change and its impacts at more localized scales and over shorter time periods than have previously been possible. This project represents an historic augmentation of …
    More at http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=116601&WT.mc_id=USNSF_51&WT.mc_ev=click
    This is an NSF News item.”

  25. I’d laugh, except that the Arkansan otherwise renown as Monica Lewinsky’s part-time gigolo was out the other day trying to sell some Congresspeople on the idea that Cap and Trade really wasn’t enough – we need more

  26. Thank mauibrad…
    “predictions of climate change and its impacts at more localized scales and over shorter time periods than have previously been possible”!
    This is bound to get completely ridiculous. Weather can be climate, if you want it to be.

  27. Any time a kid from Arkansas can score one on a boy from
    Tennessee, he’ll do it. They don’t have a lot of use for the
    folks from the wrong side of the river.
    Very OT:
    All I’m getting is a “404” diagnostic when I try for Climate
    Audit tonight.
    I see three of four big servers are down in Canada:
    http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm
    but a traceroute gets me through to 76.74.254.123
    also known as:
    http://www.climateaudit.org/
    with a timed out hop just before I get to wordpress.com.
    ???
    Reply: Works for me. 1:45 am pdt ~ ctm

  28. Gore, who has put aside campaigning to crusade and educate Americans on the effects of global warming, is the star of “An Inconvenient Truth,” a documentary that chronicles his factual — sometimes funny, yet disturbing — slideshow lectures about climate change.

  29. Everything is proof of global warming to believers, even the coldest weather for 130 years is proof of glob… oh, excuse me it’s “climate change” now isn’t it?
    The British government seems like it is backing away from their “evil carbon dioxide” message in favour of a new “evil air pollution” tactic.
    The entire British media is now carrying alarming stories about how hundreds of people are dying every week because of polluting gasses and particulates. Curiously, carbon dioxide has been left off the list of “killer” polluting gasses, and the new message is that “climate change policies keep you healthier”.
    British observers may find government ministers advocating life-extending policies a bit strange, because for the last three months there has been extensive coverage in all the media about how worried the government are about finding enough money to look after all the people reaching extended old age. Apparently, we’ve never lived this long before, and, as a nation, we’ve never been healthier.

  30. Mauibrad (22:30:07) :
    “Improving Predictions of Climate Change and its Impacts: Media Briefing
    I just fired off a couple questions on mechanics of rotation and the distribution of atmospheric moisture to the webcast e-mail.
    I wonder if they will be answered?

  31. Interest in Global Warming dropping like a stone
    Well guys, it looks like you’ve done it!
    I just did a search for “global warming” on google, and so few people in the Main Stream Media** were covering it that it was bottom of the page of 100 “more important” pages.
    Global warming is now the swine-flu of science. No one will admit they were wrong to over hype the threat, but similarly no one in the Main Stream Media is calling for mass vaccination against this planetary fever.
    Which puts those calling for action on global warming in the same category as those calling for action to prevent asteroids hitting the earth, preparing for alien landings or putting their heads into cryogenic freezes.
    **The only “mainstream” media is the guardian: which probably tells you more about whether the guardian is still worth being described as mainstream than anything else.

  32. Leif Svalgaard (22:00:47) :
    “… English is my 5th language…”
    Gonna have to update that old joke: speak three languages? You’re tri-lingual. Two languages? Bi-lingual. One Language? American. You speak five languages? You’re Leif Svalgaard.

  33. Some people have got such short memories.
    It was only last year that Billory Clinton, on a trip to India to drum up support for cap and trade pre Copenhagen, was apologizing for the US contribution to global warming.
    Does anybody remember that, no?
    The Clintons are up to their necks in cap and trade and AGW fraud.
    What Billy boy seems to be doing here is feeling around for the ladder on which he hopes to guide the Democrats assent from this fraud. Looks more like an attempt at a total climb down disguised as a joke.
    Well I’m not laughing. And as for the ladder that these crooks are trying to climb down on………
    The “greenhouse effect” hypothesis of CO2 is based on the claim that Oxygen and Nitrogen do not absorb infrared radiation.
    Only “greenhouse gases” absorb infrared according to this hypothesis.
    It has been necessary to falsely claim that Oxygen and Nitrogen are transparent to infrared radiation in-order to demonise CO2 and other gases and blame them for causing atmospheric warming.
    All gases absorb and re-emit infrared radiation. The fallacy of CO2 “greenhouse effect” is the keystone of AGW fraud.
    Air is :
    20% Oxygen
    79% Nitrogen
    0.0385% CO2
    Inconvenient truth:
    Air, pure oxygen and pure nitrogen all absorb more infrared radiation than pure CO2.
    For proof, see here: “AGW Debunked for £3.50”
    and for verification see here:
    “A close up of an infrared absorption band for NITROGEN”,
    “Infrared absorption bands for OXYGEN”,
    “Specific Heat Capacity of Gases”
    These people cannot pretend to be ignorant of these facts. They cannot say we didn’t know. They have gone out of their way to hide the truth in order to enslave the world with their cap and trade scam, knowing full well that it is based on fallacies. Bill Clinton has been in on the scam for just as long as Al Gore. He is as guilty of AGW fraud as the rest of them.

  34. I remember the front page headline in the New York Post on the occasion of the unveiling of Clinton’s official portrait (after leaving office?)
    “Well Hung”

  35. Robert E. Phelan (03:36:57) :
    Leif Svalgaard (22:00:47) :
    “… English is my 5th language…”
    Gonna have to update that old joke: speak three languages? You’re tri-lingual. Two languages? Bi-lingual. One Language? American. You speak five languages? You’re Leif Svalgaard.
    ‘Quinilingual’ – sounds very rude.
    cheers David

  36. >>Politicians cost lives (03:44:37) :
    >>Some people have got such short memories.
    Yep. It was Bill Clinton who signed the Kyoto Protocol. Thankfully, the Senate refused to ratify that insane attempt to have us commit economic suicide.
    Clinton is never really for or against anything other than the betterment of Bill Clinton. Still, anytime he decides to take a shot at Gore it works for me.

  37. Saw a cartoon today in some print journal so I can’t link to it but it went like this . . .
    Al on stage with his powerpoint thingy . .
    Some guy asks ” what if we made the world nice when we didn’t need to?”.
    That’s the new thrust . . never mind the science and taxes and wind farms , lets use AGW to just make the world nicer.
    They really miss the point don’t they?

  38. >>Tom Judd (19:55:46) :
    >>At first appalled by Clinton’s election I now realize how
    >>wrong I was. … What is it about 8 years of peace and
    >>prosperity that you object to?
    Any dumb a** can create ‘peace’ and ‘prosperity’ by letting everyone take advantage of you, and borrowing/printing more and more Monopoly money – but there comes a time when some poor sod is going to have to pay it all back and finally say ‘no’ to the more aggressive ‘friends’ and ‘allies’.
    The Chinese have enough I.O.U.s from the USA to buy the whole damn nation – and watch out, ‘cos they may just do that. This was not peace and prosperity, it was storing up problems for the next generation.
    (And that comment was not supposed to be party party political, as both sides were as bad as each other at fiscal irresponsibility.)
    .

  39. But this just brings to attention these people’s attitude. They manipulate the system, play with people’s lives, then crack jokes when the scam is revealed. Then all of us serfs applaud them and laud them, give the standing ovations, fawn and swoon at their royal majesty. It makes me sick.
    The kings and queens of antiquity didn’t go anywhere. They just changed their titles. They still live in their castles surrounded by guards, they still tax the serfs and get fat off of others’ misery and sorrow. And they still starts wars all around the globe to fill their coffers. And we still grumble in the shadows, yet applaud whenever they’re near.

  40. Oximoron: “Climate Change”
    At least with “Anthroprogenic Global Warming” we knew what Fat Albert was trying to say.
    What is “Climate Change”? I thought one of the fundamental components of “Climate” was “Change”.
    Who’s fault is “Climate Change”?
    Fat Albert, Mann, Jones, etc., etc., seem to be saying it’s “our” fault. But… I thought the Earth had “climate change” before amobia’s started puttering around.
    We’re all crazy! That’s the only explaination. We’re all on one long LSD Trip and Fat Albert is the Leader of the Band, The Bus Driver, the Conductor, Die Furehur.

  41. Kate 02.04.23. woke me up ! This morning I watched a little of BBC Breakfast as usual and heard this peculiar individual with designer stubble over his head as well as his chin telling me that atmospheric pollution was hastening the death of 50,000 of my countrymen each year. I allowed this to flow past me as I do with all pronouncements from men with designer stubble but then I read Kate’s entry.
    What is coming next? How about ” too much exercise causes you to breathe deeply thereby causing you to take in CO2 which causes you to put on weight”
    If any research group gets a grant to study this I shall expect to get a cut.

  42. Oh, so it is OK for you to disparage people, even former presidents, but not for your posters. Do you think, just maybe, that you have a skewed view of the world where it is OK to slam dems but not repubs? I do…

  43. Tom Judd (19:55:46) :
    At first appalled by Clinton’s election I now realize how wrong I was. Oh, how I wish for a return of those 8 years. The refrain from those on the left to those on the right who condemned the Clinton presidency was: What is it about 8 years of peace and prosperity that you object to?The new guy in the white house alluded to the idea that the Clinton presidency was an ineffectual one. Perhaps (in the presence of 10% unemployment, an anemic and jobless recovery, uncertainty, and so on) we could ask him: What is it about 8 years of peace and prosperity that you object to?

    The 1930’s see peace in Europe and most of the world as well. Germany was rearming (and was the most prosperous nation in Europe) and Japan was conducting a brutal war in China. Likewise, in the 1990s, a certain terrorist group formed and began bombing American targets. I suppose that counts as peace, as we really didn’t fight back? And how many places did Clinton deploy troops? What was that place in southern Europe we bombed? Was that peace?
    And which policies of the Clinton Administration can we directly link to prosperity? Maybe it was Al Gore’s invention of the internet?

  44. Here’s the latest wacked-out AGW claim: Flowers Losing Scent Due to Climate Change
    http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Malaysia/Story/A1Story20100322-206015.html
    Note that there’s no mention of any application of that “scientific method” thing — some professor at a Malaysian university simply declared it to be true, and so verily it is. Look for this new AGW “fact” to appear in your kids’ textbooks next year.
    The article also states that Kuala Lumpur has had to take somewhat drastic measures, eliminating the planting of flowers in public areas because they were “dying too fast”. In fact, he says, “The aroma producing chemical compounds in flowers dry up faster now compared with before.” Really? When was “before”? A hundred years ago? Two months ago? And how did he establish that chemical compounds are drying up faster due to warming? With a controlled experiment? No mention of that. If his scientific method follows the Gore/IPCC model, it probably went something like this: “Hmm, flowers aren’t doing so well. Couldn’t be soil quality, amount of water, quality of seed stock, or anything like that. No, the only plausible explanation is that the planet is getting hotter, because if there’s one thing we know for certain, it’s that tropical flowers don’t like warmth. And we know that global warming is caused by CO2 emissions. Therefore, man-made global warming is killing off flowers, and with them, birds, bees, and farmers. Call the press.”
    Then there’s this:
    “Forest Research Institute Malaysia (FRIM) director-general Datuk Dr Abdul Latif Mahmod said recently the extreme weather change might affect the life span of trees as a result of lighter or heavier rain.
    ‘We should look at how trees can be mutated so that they will not be destroyed.'”
    I love it — straight from whimsical hypothesis to policy recommendation! No need to bother with troublesome experiments or any of that stuff. In the brave new world of AGW, it goes like this: “Hey, it might be possible that changes in temperature will cause changes in rainfall, and if that happens, then perhaps that would adversely affect trees. Let’s start genetically mutating trees to compensate.”
    “OK, but you said that AGW might cause *more* or *less* rainfall. Which condition should we try to genetically adjust for?”
    “Either! Both! Who cares? Hillary Clinton said the US taxpayer is going to fund it all anyway.”

  45. Gosport Mike. (07:44:27) :
    Yes, the hysteria is building up, now that “climate change” has become such a joke, and this time it’s about air pollution killing people, rather than carbon dioxide killing the planet. The new line is that all these “green” taxes are for your own good, and specially designed to make you healthy, rather than carbon taxes rigged to make a few people obscenely rich.
    This is from today’s London Evening Standard:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23817516-road-pollution-kills-5000-a-year-in-london.do
    ***************************************************************************
    Road pollution “kills 5,000 a year in London”
    MPs today called for a transport revolution to stop thousands of Londoners dying prematurely each year because of traffic pollution.
    A report from the Commons environmental audit committee says pollution could be killing 50,000 people a year nationally with between 3,000 and 5,000 dying nine years early in the capital. The report warns that if these figures are accurate, traffic pollution would be causing more deaths than passive smoking, road accidents or obesity and costing the economy £20 billion a year.
    It calls on the Government and Boris Johnson to radically step up action. “The fact that thousands of people are dying in London in 2010 because of air pollution is a national disgrace,” said Tim Yeo, chairman of the committee. “Pollution from road vehicles causes the most damage to health and we must generate the political will for a dramatic shift in transport policy if air quality is to be improved. This means removing the most polluting car and lorries from the road, cleaning up the vehicles that remain and encouraging smarter choices about transport. “If we can do that we will all breathe more easily.”
    He said new laws were needed as the Clean Air Act was introduced in 1956 following the Great Smog of London in 1952 which killed 12,000. Mr Yeo added: “These days it’s not sulphur dioxide from coal fires that’s the main problem, but tiny particles produced by cars, trucks and lorries.”
    The committee said the Government was flouting EU safety rules on levels on pollution. “In some of the worst affected areas, often in the poorest parts of our cities, this invisible killer could be taking up to nine years off the lives of people most at risk, such as those with asthma, heart disease and respiratory illnesses,” said Mr Yeo.
    MPs lamented the failure of the Government to do more to clean up the environment in urban areas and warned that the UK is facing the risk of “substantial” fines for its failure to meet EU regulations.
    A spokesman for the Department of the Environment said: “We take improving air quality and meeting EU targets very seriously and have already made significant achievements.”
    ***************************************************************************
    Notice also that what this “transport revolution” is all about, or who exactly is expected to pay for it, is not described by the MPs involved, most of whom are also not named.
    It really is touching how concerned our MPs are to extend the lives of British citizens. Only last week there were several articles and programs about how “we can’t afford to look after all those reaching old age”, hence the proposals for higher National Insurance taxes, and delaying the payment of pensions until 70. (The so-called “Work-Till-You-Drop” scheme).

  46. >>Pascvaks (07:39:18) :
    >>Oximoron: “Climate Change”
    Actually, ‘Climate’ and ‘Change’ go perfectly together, so ‘Climate Change’ must be “anti-oxymoron”.
    (There does not appear to be an antonym)

  47. >>>John Galt (07:54:20) :
    >>>The 1930’s saw peace in Europe and most of the world as well.
    Agreed – see my post at “Ralph (06:47:45)”
    Same thoughts.
    .

  48. ….nevertheless you are destined to have Cap&Trade bill issued your next summer. Science has been settled long ago by consensus among the chosen ones.

  49. It must be assumed that as an ex-Prez, Bubba doesn’t have nearly as high-quality/volume speech-writing available to him either, so it was even more impressive. Tho possibly he got a last minute loaner from the WH staff.
    I liked Obama’s line that when he asked Bubba to “stand in” for him, Big Bill supposedly responded, sure, just give him a minute to clear his calendar for the next three years.
    Truth is, Bubba is still wishing the 22nd Amendment would disappear so he could have another go.

  50. Robert E. Phelan (19:46:13) :
    Keep this in mind as you read that. Clinton was NOT mocking Gore. He was mocking us. After an impossible healthcare win tonight, they are coming after us.
    He may have been mocking us, but most of the democrats will soon lose the elections in November and likely will be in the political wilderness for 50 years. The healthcare bill will likely never go into effect, repealed by the re-elected republicans.
    37 state attorney generals are going to take this bill to court, it will never see the light of day. Reid, Pelosi and Obummer will point fingers with it, that’s about it.
    There will be a burst bubble in healthcare stocks with this awful bill.
    Republicans won’t be able to fix much of anything else, nobody will repeal Nixon Shock or the profitable good ‘ol days of Walton’s ‘executive branch’ quail hunter buddies.
    No third party will emerge, no revolt. I just worry about violence. Bricks are being tossed through the windows of DNC headquarters here and there.

  51. It’s sad that climate skeptic so often just means “Republican.”
    REPLY: It’s sad that people such as yourself deal in stereotypes rather than look at facts. -A

  52. Red-Green AGW Fraud exposed:
    “Although wind power is expensive, the industry has boomed because of the “renewable obligation” subsidy system, under which consumers pay roughly double the normal price for energy from wind.”
    …-
    “Feeble wind farms fail to hit full power
    THE first detailed study of Britain’s onshore wind farms suggests some treasured landscapes may have been blighted for only small gains in green energy.
    The analysis reveals that more than 20 wind farms produce less than a fifth of their potential maximum power output.
    One site, at Blyth Harbour in Northumberland, is thought to be the worst in Britain, operating at just 7.9% of its maximum capacity. Another at Chelker reservoir in North Yorkshire operates at only 8.7% of capacity.
    Both are relatively small and old, but larger and newer sites fared badly, too, according to analyses of data released by Ofgem, the energy regulator, for 2008.”
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7069938.ece

  53. Speaking of the earlier comments about people skilled with tongues:
    Bill Clinton is a cunning linguist!

  54. Found this buried in an article about AGA cookers in the Telegraph. Seems very popular with the Eco-Greenos and fits their hypocritical self grandizing perfectly. Sharon Stone, Twanger Cameron, prize Charlie, Camilla Wobbley Bowels, Colin Firth….. Probably every one of them including the Nupty of Nashville.
    ‘…………Still, we continued to find get-outs. We work at home and use the Aga on and off all day, so we were using it at full capacity. But more and more, unease tempered my enjoyment of my juicy venison casseroles. Last year environmentalist George Monbiot launched a crusade against middle-class Aga owners. “I’ve lost count of the number of aspirational middle-class greens I know who own one of these monsters and believe that they are somehow compatible – perhaps because they look good in a country kitchen – with a green lifestyle,” he said.
    The annual carbon footprint of my two-oven gas Aga is four tons, I discovered, two thirds of what an entire average British home emits in a year, a whole ton more than government targets for individual houses by 2020. In this light, my sneering at my neighbours for driving 4x4s, my rubbishing patio heaters and my obsessive recycling of the insides of loo rolls seemed deeply ironic.
    Tessa Glass, a mother of two, who has an Aga in her second home (another eco crime) in Sussex refuses to believe she is an Aga lout, wilfully helping sea levels rise, all so she can scoff perfect Yorkshire puddings.
    “But Aga owners are green,” she protests. “They’re the kind of people who love the country and have dogs. Apart from the footballers’ wives, that is.” She’s taken aback when I explain that flying to New York twice a year would cause less devastation to the rain forests. “La la la, not listening,” she cries.
    Not listening, indeed. The list of celebrity Aga owners who also profess to be eco warriors makes hilarious reading. Sting and Trudie Styler lecture us about the Amazon but – natch – they own one. Prince Charles is forever warning us of climate Armageddon but his wife, Camilla Parker Bowles, “wouldn’t cook on anything else.”
    Colin Firth, whose wife runs a chichi “green” store is another fan. Not so much hypocritical as puzzling is Sharon Stone’s avowal that an Aga is the first thing she would save in a fire, though the lightest model weighs 64 stone.
    I’ve been doing everything I can to offset my Aga’s footprint. I never drive and we have no separate kettle or toaster and no tumble dryer, meaning, as one school-mum friend cheerily pointed out: “whenever I walk past your house I can see your wet knickers on the cooker……….”
    It’s a great idea seeing as AGW is complete bunk. Let’s all get one.

  55. Ought to be a national referendum:
    No political party may control the office of President AND both houses of Congress (because they go ape when they do).

  56. When a wily old political animal like Clinton, sniffs the wind and starts to circle away from AGW, you just know it has the smell of failure about it.

  57. John Galt,
    In 1998 (give or take, college years are a bit fuzzy – I believe this was during the Bosnian campaign which, if I recall was not sanctioned by the UN) I was in London at 10 Downing and there were protestors outside with “Clinton = Hitler” signs. I might have a picture (haha, ever feel old to think that there was a time without digital cameras?) of it somewhere.
    History isn’t always quite the way we remember it, and we all have a tendancy to remember things from a particular POV – not necessarilly the way it happened ; )

  58. Speaking of history, it seems that it was not long ago that many people were said to be suffering from a derangement syndrome because they were convinced that a few defective ballots in Florida had caused the greatest presidential election catastrophe of all times. Perhaps some of them are cured now.

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