I’m honored to offer this guest post by Jerome Ravetz, of Oxford University in the UK. Mr. Ravetz is an environmental consultant and professor of philosophy of science best known for his books challenging the assumptions of scientific objectivity, discussing the science wars and post-normal science. Read more about him at his personal web page here, his Oxford page here, or at his blog the Post-normal Times. Also, my thanks to WUWT regular “tallbloke” for his facilitation. – Anthony
Guest post by Jerome Ravetz
At the end of January 2010 two distinguished scientific institutions shared headlines with Tony Blair over accusations of the dishonest and possibly illegal manipulation of information. Our ‘Himalayan glaciers melting by 2035’ of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is matched by his ‘dodgy dossier’ of Saddam’s fictitious subversions. We had the violations of the Freedom of Information Act at the University of East Anglia; he has the extraordinary 70-year gag rule on the David Kelly suicide file. There was ‘the debate is over’ on one side, and ‘WMD beyond doubt’ on the other. The parallels are significant and troubling, for on both sides they involve a betrayal of public trust.
Politics will doubtless survive, for it is not a fiduciary institution; but for science the dangers are real. Climategate is particularly significant because it cannot be blamed on the well-known malign influences from outside science, be they greedy corporations or an unscrupulous State. This scandal, and the resulting crisis, was created by people within science who can be presumed to have been acting with the best of intentions. In the event of a serious discrediting of the global-warming claims, public outrage would therefore be directed at the community of science itself, and (from within that community) at its leaders who were either ignorant or complicit until the scandal was blown open. If we are to understand Climategate, and move towards a restoration of trust, we should consider the structural features of the situation that fostered and nurtured the damaging practices. I believe that the ideas of Post-Normal Science (as developed by Silvio Funtowicz and myself) can help our understanding.
There are deep problems of the management of uncertainty in science in the policy domain, that will not be resolved by more elaborate quantification. In the gap between science and policy, the languages, their conventions and their implications are effectively incommensurable. It takes determination and skill for a scientist who is committed to social responsibility, to avoid becoming a ‘stealth advocate’ (in the terms of Roger Pielke Jr.). When the policy domain seems unwilling or unable to recognise plain and urgent truths about a problem, the contradictions between scientific probity and campaigning zeal become acute. It is a perennial problem for all policy-relevant science, and it seems to have happened on a significant scale in the case of climate science. The management of uncertainty and quality in such increasingly common situations is now an urgent task for the governance of science.
We can begin to see what went seriously wrong when we examine what the leading practitioners of this ‘evangelical science’ of global warming (thanks to Angela Wilkinson) took to be the plain and urgent truth in their case. This was not merely that there are signs of exceptional disturbance in the ecosphere due to human influence, nor even that the climate might well be changing more rapidly now than for a very long time. Rather, they propounded, as a proven fact, Anthropogenic Carbon-based Global Warming. There is little room for uncertainty in this thesis; it effectively needs hockey-stick behaviour in all indicators of global temperature, so that it is all due to industrialisation. Its iconic image is the steadily rising graph of CO2 concentrations over the past fifty years at the Mauna Loa volcano in Hawaii (with the implicit assumption that CO2 had always previously been at or below that starting level). Since CO2 has long been known to be a greenhouse gas, with scientific theories quantifying its effects, the scientific case for this dangerous trend could seem to be overwhelmingly simple, direct, and conclusive.
In retrospect, we can ask why this particular, really rather extreme view of the prospect, became the official one. It seems that several causes conspired. First, the early opposition to any claim of climate change was only partly scientific; the tactics of the opposing special interests were such as to induce the proponents to adopt a simple, forcefully argued position. Then, once the position was adopted, its proponents became invested in it, and attached to it, in all sorts of ways, institutional and personal. And I suspect that a simplified, even simplistic claim, was more comfortable for these scientists than one where complexity and uncertainty were acknowledged. It is not merely a case of the politicians and public needing a simple, unequivocal message. As Thomas Kuhn described ‘normal science’, which (as he said) nearly all scientists do all the time, it is puzzle-solving within an unquestioned framework or ‘paradigm’. Issues of uncertainty and quality are not prominent in ‘normal’ scientific training, and so they are less easily conceived and managed by its practitioners.
Now, as Kuhn saw, this ‘normal’ science has been enormously successful in enabling our unprecedented understanding and control of the world around us. But his analysis related to the sciences of the laboratory, and by extension the technologies that could reproduce stable and controllable external conditions for their working. Where the systems under study are complicated, complex or poorly understood, that ‘textbook’ style of investigation becomes less, sometimes much less, effective. The near-meltdown of the world’s financial system can be blamed partly on naïvely reductionist economics and misapplied simplistic statistics. The temptation among ‘normal’ scientists is to work as if their material is as simple as in the lab. If nothing else, that is the path to a steady stream of publications, on which a scientific career now so critically depends. The most obvious effect of this style is the proliferation of computer simulations, which give the appearance of solved puzzles even when neither data nor theory provide much support for the precision of their numerical outputs. Under such circumstances, a refined appreciation of uncertainty in results is inhibited, and even awareness of quality of workmanship can be atrophied.
In the course of the development of climate-change science, all sorts of loose ends were left unresolved and sometimes unattended. Even the most fundamental quantitative parameter of all, the forcing factor relating the increase in mean temperature to a doubling of CO2, lies somewhere between 1 and 3 degrees, and is thus uncertain to within a factor of 3. The precision (at about 2%) in the statements of the ‘safe limits’ of CO2 concentration, depending on calculations with this factor, is not easily justified. Also, the predictive power of the global temperature models has been shown to depend more on the ‘story line’ than anything else, the end-of century increase in temperature ranging variously from a modest one degree to a catastrophic six. And the ‘hockey stick’ picture of the past, so crucial for the strict version of the climate change story, has run into increasingly severe problems. As an example, it relied totally on a small set of deeply uncertain tree-ring data for the Medieval period, to refute the historical evidence of a warming then; but it needed to discard that sort of data for recent decades, as they showed a sudden cooling from the 1960’s onwards! In the publication, the recent data from other sources were skilfully blended in so that the change was not obvious; that was the notorious ‘Nature trick’ of the CRU e-mails.
Even worse, for the warming case to have political effect, a mere global average rise in temperature was not compelling enough. So that people could appreciate the dangers, there needed to be predictions of future climate – or even weather – in the various regions of the world. Given the gross uncertainties in even the aggregated models, regional forecasts are really beyond the limits of science. And yet they have been provided, with various degrees of precision. Those announced by the IPCC have become the most explosive.
As all these anomalies and unsolved puzzles emerged, the neat, compelling picture became troubled and even confused. In Kuhn’s analysis, this would be the start of a ‘pre-revolutionary’ phase of normal science. But the political cause had been taken up by powerful advocates, like Al Gore. We found ourselves in another crusading ‘War’, like those on (non-alcoholic) Drugs and ‘Terror’. This new War, on Carbon, was equally simplistic, and equally prone to corruption and failure. Global warming science became the core element of this major worldwide campaign to save the planet. Any weakening of the scientific case would have amounted to a betrayal of the good cause, as well as a disruption of the growing research effort. All critics, even those who were full members of the scientific peer community, had to be derided and dismissed. As we learned from the CRU e-mails, they were not considered to be entitled to the normal courtesies of scientific sharing and debate. Requests for information were stalled, and as one witty blogger has put it, ‘peer review’ was replaced by ‘pal review’.
Even now, the catalogue of unscientific practices revealed in the mainstream media is very small in comparison to what is available on the blogosphere. Details of shoddy science and dirty tricks abound. By the end, the committed inner core were confessing to each other that global temperatures were falling, but it was far too late to change course. The final stage of corruption, cover-up, had taken hold. For the core scientists and the leaders of the scientific communities, as well as for nearly all the liberal media, ‘the debate was over’. Denying Climate Change received the same stigma as denying the Holocaust. Even the trenchant criticisms of the most egregious errors in the IPCC reports were kept ‘confidential’. And then came the e-mails.
We can understand the root cause of Climategate as a case of scientists constrained to attempt to do normal science in a post-normal situation. But climate change had never been a really ‘normal’ science, because the policy implications were always present and strong, even overwhelming. Indeed, if we look at the definition of ‘post-normal science’, we see how well it fits: facts uncertain,values in dispute, stakes high, and decisions urgent. In needing to treat Planet Earth like a textbook exercise, the climate scientists were forced to break the rules of scientific etiquette and ethics, and to play scientific power-politics in a way that inevitably became corrupt. The combination of non-critical ‘normal science’ with anti-critical ‘evangelical science’ was lethal. As in other ‘gate’ scandals, one incident served to pull a thread on a tissue of protective plausibilities and concealments, and eventually led to an unravelling. What was in the e-mails could be largely explained in terms of embattled scientists fighting off malicious interference; but the materials ready and waiting on the blogosphere provided a background, and that is what converted a very minor scandal to a catastrophe.
Consideration of those protective plausibilities can help to explain how the illusions could persist for so long until their sudden collapse. The scientists were all reputable, they published in leading peer-reviewed journals, and their case was itself highly plausible and worthy in a general way. Individual criticisms were, for the public and perhaps even for the broader scientific community, kept isolated and hence muffled and lacking in systematic significance. And who could have imagined that at its core so much of the science was unsound? The plausibility of the whole exercise was, as it were, bootstrapped. I myself was alerted to weaknesses in the case by some caveats in Sir David King’s book The Hot Topic; and I had heard of the hockey-stick affair. But even I was carried along by the bootstrapped plausibility, until the scandal broke. (I have benefited from the joint project on plausibility in science of colleagues in Oxford and at the Arizona State University).
Part of the historic significance of Climategate is that the scandal was so effectively and quickly exposed. Within a mere two months of the first reports in the mainstream media, the key East Anglia scientists and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change were discredited. Even if only a fraction of their scientific claims were eventually refuted, their credibility as trustworthy scientists was lost. To explain how it all happened so quickly and decisively, we have the confluence of two developments, one social and the other technical. For the former, there is a lesson of Post-Normal Science, that we call the Extended Peer Community. In traditional ‘normal’ science, the peer community, performing the functions of quality-assurance and governance, is strictly confined to the researchers who share the paradigm. In the case of ‘professional consultancy’, the clients and/or sponsors also participate in governance. We have argued that in the case of Post-Normal Science, the ‘extended peer community’, including all affected by the policy being implemented, must be fully involved. Its particular contribution will depend on the nature of the core scientific problem, and also on the phase of investigation. Detailed technical work is a task for experts, but quality-control on even that work can be done by those with much broader expertise. And on issues like the definition of the problem itself, the selection of personnel, and crucially the ownership of the results, the extended peer community has full rights of participation. This principle is effectively acknowledged in many jurisdictions, and for many policy-related problems. The theory of Post-Normal Science goes beyond the official consensus in recognising ‘extended facts’, that might be local knowledge and values, as well as unoffficially obtained information.
The task of creating and involving the extended peer community (generally known as ‘participation’) has been recognised as difficult, with its own contradictions and pitfalls. It has grown haphazardly, with isolated successes and failures. Hitherto, critics of scientific matters have been relegated to a sort of samizdat world, exchanging private letters or writing books that can easily be ignored (as not being peer-reviewed) by the ruling establishment. This has generally been the fate of even the most distinguished and responsible climate-change critics, up to now. A well-known expert in uncertainty management, Jeroen van der Sluijs, explicitly condemned the ‘overselling of certainty’ and predicted the impending destruction of trust; but he received no more attention than did Nikolas Taleb in warning of the ‘fat tails’ in the probability distributions of securities that led to the Credit Crunch. A prominent climate scientist, Mike Hulme, provided a profound analysis in Why We Disagree About Climate Change, in terms of complexity and uncertainty. But since legitimate disagreement was deemed nonexistent, he too was ignored.
To have a political effect, the ‘extended peers’ of science have traditionally needed to operate largely by means of activist pressure-groups using the media to create public alarm. In this case, since the global warmers had captured the moral high ground, criticism has remained scattered and ineffective, except on the blogosphere. The position of Green activists is especially difficult, even tragic; they have been ‘extended peers’ who were co-opted into the ruling paradigm, which in retrospect can be seen as a decoy or diversion from the real, complex issues of sustainability, as shown by Mike Hulme. Now they must do some very serious re-thinking about their position and their role.
The importance of the new media of communications in mass politics, as in the various ‘rainbow revolutions’ is well attested. To understand how the power-politics of science have changed in the case of Climategate, we can take a story from the book Here Comes Everybody by Clay Shirkey. There were two incidents in the Boston U.S.A. diocese of the Roman Catholic Church, involving the shuffling of paeodophile priests around parishes. The first time, there was a criminal prosecution, with full exposure in the press, and then nothing happened. The second time, the outraged parents got on their cell phones and organised; and eventually Cardinal Archbishop Bernard Francis Law (who had started as a courageous cleric in the ‘60’s) had to leave for Rome in disgrace. The Climategate affair shows the importance of the new IT for science, as an empowerment of the extended peer community.
The well-known principle, ‘knowledge is power’ has its obverse, ‘ignorance is impotence’. And ignorance is maintained, or eventually overcome, by a variety of socio-technical means. With the invention of cheap printing on paper, the Bible could be widely read, and heretics became Reformers. The social activity of science as we know it expanded and grew through the age of printing. But knowledge was never entirely free, and the power-politics of scientific legitimacy remained quite stable for centuries. The practice of science has generally been restricted to a social elite and its occasional recruits, as it requires a prior academic education and a sufficiency of leisure and of material resources. With the new information technology, all that is changing rapidly. As we see from the ‘open source’ movement, many people play an active role in enjoyable technological development in the spare time that their job allows or even encourages. Moreover, all over IT there are blogs that exercise quality control on the industry’s productions. In this new knowledge industry, the workers can be as competent as the technicians and bosses. The new technologies of information enable the diffusion of scientific competence and the sharing of unofficial information, and hence give power to peer communities that are extended far beyond the Ph.D.s in the relevant subject-specialty. The most trenchant and effective critics of the ‘hockey stick’ statistics were a University-employed economist and a computer expert.
Like any other technology, IT is many-faceted. It is easily misused and abused, and much of the content of the blogosphere is trivial or worse. The right-wing political agendas of some climate sceptics, their bloggers and their backers, are quite well known. But to use their background or motivation as an excuse for ignoring their arguments, is a betrayal of science. The blogosphere interacts with other media of communication, in the public and scientific domains. Some parts are quite mainstream, others not. The Climategate blogosphere is as varied in quality as any other. Some leading scholars, like Roger Pielke, Jr. have had personal blogs for a long time. Some blogs are carefully monitored, have a large readership and are sampled by the mainstream media (such as the one on which this is posted, Wattsupwiththat.com). Others are less rigorous; but the same variation in quality can be found in the nominally peer-reviewed scientific literature. Keeping up with the blogosphere requires different skills from keeping up with traditional literature; it is most useful to find a summarising blog that fits one’s special interests, as well as a loyal correspondent, as (in my case) Roger ‘tallbloke’ Tattersall.
Some mainstream publications are now saying nice things about the blogosphere. Had such sentiments been expressed a while ago, the critical voices might have had a public hearing and the Climategate scandal might have been exposed before it became entrenched so disastrously. And now the critical blogosphere does not need to be patronised. Like any extension of political power, whether it be the right to believe, to protest, to vote, to form trades unions, or to be educated, it can lead to instabilities and abuses. But now the extended peer community has a technological base, and the power-politics of science will be different. I cannot predict how it will work out, but we can be confident that corruptions built on bootstrapped plausibility will be less likely in the future.
There is an important philosophical dimension to Climategate, a question of the relation of personal scientific ethics to objective scientific facts. The problem is created by the traditional image of science (as transmitted in scientific education) as ‘value-free’. The personal commitments to integrity, that are necessary for the maintenance of scientific quality, receive no mention in the dominant philosophy of science. Kuhn’s disenchanted picture of science was so troubling to the idealists (as Popper) because in his ‘normal’ science criticism had hardly any role. For Kuhn, even the Mertonian principles of ethical behaviour were effectively dismissed as irrelevant. Was this situation truly ‘normal’ – meaning either average or (worse) appropriate? The examples of shoddy science exposed by the Climategate convey a troubling impression. From the record, it appears that in this case, criticism and a sense of probity needed to be injected into the system by the extended peer community from the (mainly) external blogosphere.
The total assurance of the mainstream scientists in their own correctness and in the intellectual and moral defects of their critics, is now in retrospect perceived as arrogance. For their spokespersons to continue to make light of the damage to the scientific case, and to ignore the ethical dimension of Climategate, is to risk public outrage at a perceived unreformed arrogance. If there is a continuing stream of ever more detailed revelations, originating in the blogosphere but now being brought to a broader public, then the credibility of the established scientific authorities will continue to erode. Do we face the prospect of the IPCC reports being totally dismissed as just more dodgy dossiers, and of hitherto trusted scientists being accused of negligence or worse? There will be those who with their own motives will be promoting such a picture. How can it be refuted?
And what about the issue itself? Are we really experiencing Anthropogenic Carbon-based Global Warming? If the public loses faith in that claim, then the situation of science in our society will be altered for the worse. There is very unlikely to be a crucial experience that either confirms or refutes the claim; the post-normal situation is just too complex. The consensus is likely to depend on how much trust can still be put in science. The whole vast edifice of policy commitments for Carbon reduction, with their many policy prescriptions and quite totalitarian moral exhortations, will be at risk of public rejection. What sort of chaos would then result? The consequences for science in our civilisation would be extraordinary.
To the extent that the improved management of uncertainty and ignorance can remedy the situation, some useful tools are at hand. In the Netherlands, scholars and scientists have developed ‘Knowledge Quality Assessment’ methodologies for characterising uncertainty in ways that convey the richness of the phenomenon while still performing well as robust tools of analysis and communication. Elsewhere, scholars are exploring methods for managing disagreement among scientists, so that such post-normal issues do not need to become so disastrously polarised. A distinguished scholar, Sheila Jasanoff, has called for a culture of humility among scientists, itself a radical move towards a vision of a non-violent science. Scientists who have been forced to work on the blogosphere have had the invaluable experience of exclusion and oppression; that could make it easier for them to accept that something is seriously wrong and then to engage in the challenging moral adventures of dealing with uncertainty and ignorance. The new technologies of communications are revolutionising knowledge and power in many areas. The extended peer community of science on the blogosphere will be playing its part in that process. Let dialogue commence!
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My thanks to numerous friends and colleagues for their loyal assistance through all the drafts of this essay. The final review at a seminar at the Institute of Science, Innovation and Society at Oxford University was very valuable, particularly the intervention from ‘the man in the bus queue’.
This Pew January 25, 2010 poll of “Public’s Priorities for 2010: Economy, Jobs, Terrorism” places Global Warming last of 21 issues concerning Americans.
http://people-press.org/report/584/policy-priorities-2010
It was comforting that the start of this essay was harmonious with the submission I put to the current UK House of Commons Inquiry, about the damage to Science in the eyes of the public.
Then I came to the sentence “Indeed, if we look at the definition of ‘post-normal science’, we see how well it fits: facts uncertain,values in dispute, stakes high, and decisions urgent. ”
Here we have grounds for debate.
If one accepts that AGW is a form of social activism, then one can study prior cases of social activism, to compare and contrast. Several have happened in my lifetime, so impressions can rely upon personal observation rather than the written or spoken recounting of others. Because of the within lifetime span, one can look for and indeed find a number of names – activists who move from one cause to another. Successively, they tilt at the same, wicked political ideology in the manner of Don Quixote.
In general, each new disaster scenario has seemed larger and more urgent. The precautionary principle has become more prominent and in the later examples there are estimates of the cost of doing nothing.
For debate: It is not the event that becomes larger and more urgent. It is its publicity that does this. I would debate with Prof Ravetz that if the publicity was removed from the case, the normal progress of science would take care of it. There is no need for a new ‘post-normal science’ when there is no hustling.
A look at the eradication of smallpox helps. At the start, it fitted ‘facts uncertain, values in dispute, stakes high, and decisions urgent’. At the end, science was done well and a terrific result was achieved. The critical ingredient was the hustling being absent. Smallpox was already a problem of global proportions with high mortality and in a theoretical sense had much in common with global warming. Its lack of publicity might be related to the control/exclusion of scientists with politico-social agendas.
Whereas in my youger career we kept a lid on the activists, in my retirement they seem to have sprung out of the woodwork, as if my recent successors had not been adequately diligent in identifying them and publicising their errors.
Perhaps this is harsh, because many did try to identify errors, but in hindsight the circled-wagon tactic was hard to penetrate. If you can’t access the raw data, you can’t audit.
The emergence of the Internet and the blog was not accidental. It was a routine scientific reaction to a non-scientific abuse. The blog concept will prosper because it is logical and in demand. It is not being immodest to state that this thought crossed my mind way back, after my first reading of Climate Audit.
Thank you, Steve. The standards you set are a big part of future acceptance.
Noelene (20:45:53) :
“Most scientists have big egos, who dares to question THEM.”
This as NOT been my experience. To the contrary, the more succesful scientists tend to be the ones who listen to the ideas of others. Ego is irrelevant to most of the good ones. They would blush at the thought.
I am distressed by the comparison of bogus AGW claims to the WMD analyses by the Bush administration.
The mainstream media uniformly denouces the “failure” to find WMD stockpiles in Iraq, under the meme “Bush Lied, People Died”.
In fact, at the open analysis presented at the UN prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Sec. of State Colin Powell made the following analyses:
Iraq has at least 550 chemical agent shells in its posession.
Iraq has contributed to terrorism at home and abroad by 1. Harboring known terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and 2. paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers.
Iraq has missles and launchers exceeding a range of 150km
Iraq has chemical and nuclear agent precursors, which could be used to reconstitute a new WMD program on short notice.
All of these analyses have been found to be demonstrably true.
All of these items were a direct violation of the cessation of hostilities agreement signed by Saddam’s government at the end of the 1991 phase of the Iraqi war.
Combined with the fact that Saddam’s Iraq did indeed use WMD against Iran and its own population, the precautions shown in invading Iraq and eliminating Saddam are utterly different from the AGW claims for an effect never before seen.
No WMD, huh……
but the part about science and ClimateGate is good.
Crusty the Clown (20:49:51) :
Am I the only one here who, when he hears the phrase ‘post-normal science’, thinks of Trofim Denisovich Lysenko? Yikes.
Unfortunately it makes me think of the Marxist term ‘normalization’ too. Yikes.
Many above have quoted this paragraph from the posted essay. I do so again, because the more I read it, the more reprehensible it seems:
The answer to the question first posed is: No, we are not experiencing “Anthropogenic Carbon-based Global Warming,” and the hypothesis that we are is false. Why then should ‘the public’ or any rational human being maintain “faith in that claim”? And why would “the situation of science in our society” “be altered for the worse”?
Quite the contrary, if science can cleanse itself of the massive infection of lies and chicanery that has befallen it with the ‘global warming’ fraud, its situation will be just fine. And let us hope and pray that the public can forcibly and wholeheartedly reject that “whole vast edifice of policy commitments for Carbon reduction, with their many policy prescriptions and quite totalitarian moral exhortations.” Never, since the egregious, inane, and completely false proclamations of Soviet Marxism-Leninism about everything under the sun have so many been taken in by so few and to such ill effect. The sooner we can rid ourselves of the totalitarians and charlatans who would have entrapped us in some neo-Ludditic, socialist world state, the better off we will be.
If I read that paragraph correctly, what this fellow is saying is that even if the hypothesis of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming were false, it would behoove us to carry on and wreck our societies and economies as if it were true. This isn’t just ‘post-normal’; it is post-rational, sheer gibberish. But perhaps we can expect no better from someone who could argue that science should ever depart from its quest for the truth.
/Mr Lynn
Nice graph proving that the US postal charges drive climate change, and not CO2 :
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=75
>>Our ‘Himalayan glaciers melting by 2035′ of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is matched by his ‘dodgy dossier’ of Saddam’s fictitious subversions.
Yes, these two are exactly the same.
Disappointing to see them equated here and ruined the rest of the post for me.
Warmism is just a late development of Socialism, the very definition of which is the use of the supposed authority of “science” to violate natural individual rights.
The difference is that, while original socialism first based its authoritarian and violent pseudo-elitism on an allegedly superior “science of organization” which has been discredited in the social sciences, warmism has been trying to abuse the good reputation of the natural sciences.
The natural sciences owe such reputation to the fact that a natural scientist had generally rather reproduce a phenomenon, than find himself permanent excuses for failure.
As a consequence, while the politicization of funding –the fact that most researchers now live on money stolen from the taxpayers– does develop a parasitic bureaucracy, it is not expected to produce a definite bias in scientific findings.
The exception, however, is in the areas where:
— there are large stakes for a power structure finding a definite kind of results and
— failure to reproduce phenomena is not readily evident, or was to be expected.
One of those domains of science is long-term climate forecasting, which started receiving massive subsidies to find “evidence” for a politically pre-determined warmist conclusion during a warming period.
If it hadn’t been for the fact that mean temperature is actually led by 11-year and 22-year sun cycles, such natural warming which might have gone on for many more years without anyone noticing a discrepancy between the forecasts and the observations.
Even now that global temperatures have been going down for 11 years, there are still people who deny that it has statistical significance –while a few warmists deny the decline outright.
The warmist hoax thus relied:
— on the expected long-term nature of its forecasts –as opposed to the mean-term predictions of commodity shortages made by the Club of Rome, which were ridiculed within the time span of their forecasts (15 to 20 years)
— and on the fact that most natural scientists have little experience of the corruption of their findings by politics.
Economists, who have an inborn experience of such politicization and corruption, were never the dupes of the warmist hoax.
Yet, there are elements of economic illiteracy which tend to make natural scientists the dupes of enviro-fascism:
— they do not understand that the source of all wealth is the human mind (Julian Simon), and as a consequence, there is no such thing as “natural wealth”.
That is why they do no understand that the only condition for development to be “sustainable” is that it be free.
On the contrary, they will regard all claims that economic development is not naturally limited as based on a self-evident fallacy.
— This comes from the materialistic methodology of the natural sciences, which systematically excludes creation as a kind of causality.
Yet all wealth is indeed created: as a matter of fact, every time any man comes upon a new idea, it brings something genuinely new to the universe as we can perceive it
–and the very existence of science is evidence of that.
In that sense, every economist must be a “creationist” in order to be competent.
Okay, he has identified some of the stuff going on.
But this “new-something” ….(new-speak?) I dont like it.
Keep the original scientific principals, I say.
The bosses of these climate centers are the dangerous ones.
They need to keep their budgets growing; And they do it by using “new-speak”.
http://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/climate-change-and-the-death-of-science/
John Whitman (17:59:20) wrote, “ [Ravitz] helps … view that reveals philosophy and science as an integrated unity.”
Science and philosophy are categorically distinct, because science is not axiomatic.
Given the accuracy of the quote posted by Sam (17:14:44), Dr. Ravitz is a postmodern cultural relativist, which view of science is not even wrong. Postmodern relativist thought is fatuous, easy to refute and, most damning of all, auto-negating.
Anyone wanting an intensely enjoyable read on fatuosities post-modern and other nonsense that passes for thought in the once-noble halls of the Humanistic Academe, you won’t do better than Paul Gross’ and Norman Levitt’s Higher Superstition: The academic left and its quarrels with science.
And of course, j.pickens is right about Saddam’s WMD.
The Independent, Guardian, Climate Change & Big Oil
Piers Corbyn, February 2010
The Man-Made Global Warming / Climate Change (MMGW) proposition fails not because its protagonists have falsified data and relied on fiction or because of the criminal charges of fraud in other spheres recently levelled against the first chair of Parliament’s Committee on Energy & Climate Change.
It fails because there is no evidence for it – indeed [there is] only evidence against [it] (ie observations show that world temperatures drive CO2 levels [and not the other way round]) and because all its predictions have failed.
That should be enough to dispose not just of Pachauri but the IPCC as a whole and all its camp followers and all the expensive and deadly policies that go with it.
The MMGWers have no evidence for their case and so unsurprisingly have refused all calls to produce observational evidence from the last hundreds, thousands or millions of years that CO2 drives temperatures & climate (see eg links to letters to UN via: http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=3307&linkbox=true&position=6 and http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/ ).
Physics gives many reasons why MMGW does not work (see eg http://www.weatheraction.com/ home page re WeatherAction conference at Imperial College London Oct 28th 2009).
However, rather than accept these or report on what does cause extreme weather events and climate change (links above) the Independent & Guardian engage in intellectually and morally bankrupt flag waving. We are told the bogey BIG Oil backs climate sceptics therefore it is implied MMGW must be true.
Of course this is a nonsense argument but what is the true role of BIG Oil?
If you look at BP policy on climate change – http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9028012&contentId=7050978 ; you can see it is pretty close to the Guardian and Independent! Indeed the Guardian has organised joint conference(s) with Big Oil on the matter. Interestingly Polly Toynbee on Dateline London BBC Feb 6th said the world needs a fixed high energy price. This of course is what big oil (including the energy interests of Pachauri) want – for the resulting massive increase in profits and asset values. Big Oil are as much a part of the Climate Change scam as the Pope is a catholic.
And as for funding Climate Realists like me or WeatherAction. No way. In fact over recent years BIG Oil & big insurance companies have specifically stated our long range forecasts are impressive but they did not renew or take up certain use of them because you (WeatherAction) are ‘on the wrong bus’ .
Let’s be clear, the MMGW con in carbon trading alone is worth hundreds of billions a year. The biggest players – banks, oil companies and governments – are the winners, the world public are the losers and it is a tragedy those newspapers who used to pride themselves on rooting out dodgy dealings are in denial of reality.
Piers Corbyn is an astrophysicist at WeatherAction.com long range weather & climate forecasters
View from the Solent (15:58:54) :
I think that The Guardian is trying to conduct a public trial with their current Climategate related postings. They are publishing a sufficient number of ‘news’ pieces so as to get most of the ‘top slots’ on a Google search for Climategate news.
They are trying to appear to be presenting evidence on both sides to then establish themselves as an authority able to pass judgment and then finally, when they feel the time is right, they will say something akin to:
After publishing all the known information and having received the comments from interested parties on all sides; the evidence concludes that there has been nothing done wrong; furthermore since the IPCC has established that they are correcting their errors in process there is nothing to be worried about in the future.
We will now resume our previously scheduled programming.
Glaciers melting because of CO2.
Hurricanes increasing because of CO2.
Flooding imminent because of CO2.
Deforestation caused by CO2.
Crop failures imminent because of CO2.
Drought in Australia caused by CO2.
Malaria increasing because of CO2.
Lack of winter snow caused by CO2.
Hot winters caused by CO2.
Cold winters caused by CO2.
Hot summers caused by CO2.
Cold summers caused by CO2.
CO2 bad.
Warming bad.
Tax is the only solution.
Tax good, Warming bad.
Etc.
Ps. The Guardian removes this type of thing from their comments sections. Go figure.
@ur momisugly Stephen mosher
you hit the nail on the head. The philosophy of PNS led directly to ‘scientists’ at East Anglia corrupting peer review, data sources and statistics. Mike Hulme, Sonny to Ravetz’ PNS Cher, works there.
When you truly believe an issue is so urgent policy-wise that it has to be made before the truth of the matter can be established; when you truly believe that objectivity, falsifiability of hypotheses and replication of outcomes is overrated and can be dropped in favour of citizen juries and determination of whether the method is correct by an elite determining if it is a ‘respectful process’ – you have become a post-normal scientist. You are no longer a scientist.
Some of the love on this thread for this essay is bewildering. A lot of people expressed approval except for the second last paragraph. But that paragraph about CAGW and implications of public rejection, is entirely consistent with the rest of the essay… If you’re a post normal scientist, you don’t need scientific proof to believe in CAGW. Because you believe it’s urgent, what’s more important than scientific proof is doing what it takes to get people to accept the right policies to this ‘urgent’ issue.
I marvel at the Orwellian powers of these PNSs. Ravetz has the group that by rights should be most sceptical of his beliefs eating out of his hand. Hulme, by calling for the IPCC to be disbanded, gets sceptic love. But what he wants is something diametrically opposed to sceptical science – the replacement of the IPCC with a new respectful process that can drive policy forward in the absence of scientific proof and objectivity
I was reminded of Lord Acton’s well known aphorism: all power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This certainly applied to the small group at the centre of IPCC climate science; they believed they had the absolute power to shape the world. Acton’s aphorism tellingly continues: “Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority.”
Another of Acton’s sayings (from 1877) predicted the blogosphere: At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects often differed from their own
As much as I respect Anthony and his work, I find this essay to be nonsense, and very dangerous nonsense. It is as bad as anything in climate science, because it is exactly what Phil Jones et al. have done. This essay is nothing more than a man adapting a situation for his own personal gain. In this case the gain is that people will believe in his ridiculous notion of “post-normal science”.
For example, Ravetz says:
Bollocks. The problem with climate science is that the tenets of “normal” science, which are heavily concerned with uncertainty, are being ignored. Issues of uncertainty are to the forefront in normal science. On the other hand, uncertainty has often been ignored by many climate scientists (see the still-unresolved issue of the uncertainty in the Hockeystick).
The solution is not some “post-normal” science. Ravetz fails to notice that the excesses of Jones et al. are examples of Ravetz’s “post-normal science” at its finest. The solution is the return to “normal” science. It is the false certainty of the AGW proponents which is the problem, not any fancied lack of concern with uncertainty in real science. Real scientists are deeply concerned with uncertainty, and one way that I distinguish real science from bullshit (AKA “post-modern science”) is that a large amount of thought is given to how uncertain the results are.
Ravetz also said elsewhere:
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I call bullshit on that. Normal science is not “obsolete”, that’s a claim that could (and often has) come directly from Jim Hansen, Michael Mann, Stephen Schneider, or Phil Jones. Quality is not a replacement for truth.
And in any case, science is not a search for “truth”. Nothing in science can be shown to be “true”. Instead, science is a search for theories which cannot (at present) be falsified. Either something is falsifiable or it is not. And a falsifiable statement is either falsified or it is not. The solution is not to shift from the proven method of scientific falsifiability to some namby-pamby idea of “quality”. Quality??? What is “quality” in a scientific context?
For me, the problem is that far too many climate scientists believe in the “post-normal” hogwash propounded by Ravetz. This is based on the false claim that post normal science is needed when “facts are uncertain, values in dispute, stakes high and decisions urgent”.
In any science, when the facts are uncertain and the values are in dispute, those very characteristics mean that we have no idea whether the decision is urgent or not. It is people like Ravetz, claiming that some fancied uncertain problem means that we have to DO SOMETHING NOW NOW NOW so we need some new scientific paradigm, that are the problem.
The solution is to insist that before we believe some theory, that it make falsifiable predictions.
The solution is to work to see if something is falsifiable before we put credence in it.
The solution is to insist that climate scientists be honest about the uncertainties in their work, as real scientists have been taught to do for centuries.
The solution is not to get rid of the scientific idea that we need evidence to support our decisions. The solution is not to substitute “quality” for falsifiability. The solution is to insist that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”.
For example, Ravetz says above:
Again, I call bullshit. This is the “poor me, they’re all against me, that’s why I can’t reveal my data” claim that has been made over and over to justify the excesses of Jones and his ilk. That’s blaming the victim.
The early “claim[s] of climate change” were not opposed by “special interests” as Ravetz says. Quite the opposite, they were promoted and sustained by special interests. These included the adoption of the climate claims by previously responsible environmental organizations, who took up the cudgel and wielded it strongly against all opponents. Ravetz has the shoe on the wrong foot. The adoption of the “simple, forcefully argued position” started with things like Stephen Schneiders famous statement that sometimes it was necessary to simplify and exaggerate science to achieve a political end. It started with things like Jim Hansen’s overblown claims in 1988 of impending climate disaster. To claim that the proponents were “induced to adopt” this position by “opposing special interests” is absolute nonsense.
For me, this essay is the most dangerous piece of nonsense that has ever appeared on WUWT … sorry, Anthony, but that’s my view. We don’t need “post-normal science”. Our problem is not the lack of a new scientific paradigm. The problem is that far too many of the scientists involved have been hiding their work, concealing their methods, refusing to show their code, exaggerating the dangers, and flat-out lying about their results. How will “post-normal” science cure that?
The solution is simple. We need a return to the normal science which has served us admirably for centuries, the normal science regarding which far too many climate scientists seem totally clueless. It’s bozo simple stuff, things I learned in my high school “normal” science class, things like SHOW YOUR WORK and DON’T EXAGGERATE and SHOW THE NEGATIVE AS WELL AS THE POSITIVE RESULTS and BE HONEST ABOUT THE UNCERTAINTIES and DON’T DENY THE OPPOSITION A CHANCE TO SPEAK. That’s what we need, not some New-Age “post-normal” hocus pocus. The problem is not normal science — it is that climate scientists have not been practicing normal science.
Awesome blog post. My sincere congratulations to Anthony and, of course and above all, to Jerome Ravetz.
“…but climate change had never been a really ‘normal’ science….”
I contend that there is not yet (and may never be) a Climate Science.
There is only scientists working (like a bunch of blind people trying to describe an elephant) to develop same.
A brilliant essay! Clear thinking, articulately expressed.
One of the best posts ever on wuwt. What class.
Alan S (15:44:49) :
Everyman (15:19:34) :
“”I am much taken with the fact that in such a learned, if determinedly philosophical, discussion of the scientific lapses involved, there is no mention of the untidy prospect that “money talked” in this instance, that otherwise reputable scientists proved all-too-human in their inability to resist the blandishments of grant money and other sources of lucre in reaching their ever-more-tendentious and strained analyses of the data.””
“I don’t think this needed to be said outright.”
“The critique of the corruption was spot on you must agree.”
This is precisely what needs to be said.
I have no doubt that Professor Ravetz would agree with the comment, but I can understand that he may not feel free to express it. Sadly, one needs to be as old as I am, or near to it, before one is completely free to express one’s views with complete disregard for how any other may make judgement.
This whole fiasco is not about science: it is about greed.
Another unbelievable happening (that happened) was when all the major credit rating agencies gave AAA status to total junk thus causing the greatest financial dislocation for the last 80 years.
All very interesting, but I started to smell a rat when I read, “We can understand the root cause of Climategate as a case of scientists constrained to attempt to do normal science in a post-normal situation.”
Unfortunately, having spent the first 10 years of my career working in medical research, I can undestand it in very familiar terms that don’t require me to invent a whole new philosophy of science. When you need to publish to advance, you take the path of least resistance. Where the data is most tenuous and where the passions are high, it pays to go along to get along.