I’m honored to offer this guest post by Jerome Ravetz, of Oxford University in the UK. Mr. Ravetz is an environmental consultant and professor of philosophy of science best known for his books challenging the assumptions of scientific objectivity, discussing the science wars and post-normal science. Read more about him at his personal web page here, his Oxford page here, or at his blog the Post-normal Times. Also, my thanks to WUWT regular “tallbloke” for his facilitation. – Anthony
Guest post by Jerome Ravetz
At the end of January 2010 two distinguished scientific institutions shared headlines with Tony Blair over accusations of the dishonest and possibly illegal manipulation of information. Our ‘Himalayan glaciers melting by 2035’ of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is matched by his ‘dodgy dossier’ of Saddam’s fictitious subversions. We had the violations of the Freedom of Information Act at the University of East Anglia; he has the extraordinary 70-year gag rule on the David Kelly suicide file. There was ‘the debate is over’ on one side, and ‘WMD beyond doubt’ on the other. The parallels are significant and troubling, for on both sides they involve a betrayal of public trust.
Politics will doubtless survive, for it is not a fiduciary institution; but for science the dangers are real. Climategate is particularly significant because it cannot be blamed on the well-known malign influences from outside science, be they greedy corporations or an unscrupulous State. This scandal, and the resulting crisis, was created by people within science who can be presumed to have been acting with the best of intentions. In the event of a serious discrediting of the global-warming claims, public outrage would therefore be directed at the community of science itself, and (from within that community) at its leaders who were either ignorant or complicit until the scandal was blown open. If we are to understand Climategate, and move towards a restoration of trust, we should consider the structural features of the situation that fostered and nurtured the damaging practices. I believe that the ideas of Post-Normal Science (as developed by Silvio Funtowicz and myself) can help our understanding.
There are deep problems of the management of uncertainty in science in the policy domain, that will not be resolved by more elaborate quantification. In the gap between science and policy, the languages, their conventions and their implications are effectively incommensurable. It takes determination and skill for a scientist who is committed to social responsibility, to avoid becoming a ‘stealth advocate’ (in the terms of Roger Pielke Jr.). When the policy domain seems unwilling or unable to recognise plain and urgent truths about a problem, the contradictions between scientific probity and campaigning zeal become acute. It is a perennial problem for all policy-relevant science, and it seems to have happened on a significant scale in the case of climate science. The management of uncertainty and quality in such increasingly common situations is now an urgent task for the governance of science.
We can begin to see what went seriously wrong when we examine what the leading practitioners of this ‘evangelical science’ of global warming (thanks to Angela Wilkinson) took to be the plain and urgent truth in their case. This was not merely that there are signs of exceptional disturbance in the ecosphere due to human influence, nor even that the climate might well be changing more rapidly now than for a very long time. Rather, they propounded, as a proven fact, Anthropogenic Carbon-based Global Warming. There is little room for uncertainty in this thesis; it effectively needs hockey-stick behaviour in all indicators of global temperature, so that it is all due to industrialisation. Its iconic image is the steadily rising graph of CO2 concentrations over the past fifty years at the Mauna Loa volcano in Hawaii (with the implicit assumption that CO2 had always previously been at or below that starting level). Since CO2 has long been known to be a greenhouse gas, with scientific theories quantifying its effects, the scientific case for this dangerous trend could seem to be overwhelmingly simple, direct, and conclusive.
In retrospect, we can ask why this particular, really rather extreme view of the prospect, became the official one. It seems that several causes conspired. First, the early opposition to any claim of climate change was only partly scientific; the tactics of the opposing special interests were such as to induce the proponents to adopt a simple, forcefully argued position. Then, once the position was adopted, its proponents became invested in it, and attached to it, in all sorts of ways, institutional and personal. And I suspect that a simplified, even simplistic claim, was more comfortable for these scientists than one where complexity and uncertainty were acknowledged. It is not merely a case of the politicians and public needing a simple, unequivocal message. As Thomas Kuhn described ‘normal science’, which (as he said) nearly all scientists do all the time, it is puzzle-solving within an unquestioned framework or ‘paradigm’. Issues of uncertainty and quality are not prominent in ‘normal’ scientific training, and so they are less easily conceived and managed by its practitioners.
Now, as Kuhn saw, this ‘normal’ science has been enormously successful in enabling our unprecedented understanding and control of the world around us. But his analysis related to the sciences of the laboratory, and by extension the technologies that could reproduce stable and controllable external conditions for their working. Where the systems under study are complicated, complex or poorly understood, that ‘textbook’ style of investigation becomes less, sometimes much less, effective. The near-meltdown of the world’s financial system can be blamed partly on naïvely reductionist economics and misapplied simplistic statistics. The temptation among ‘normal’ scientists is to work as if their material is as simple as in the lab. If nothing else, that is the path to a steady stream of publications, on which a scientific career now so critically depends. The most obvious effect of this style is the proliferation of computer simulations, which give the appearance of solved puzzles even when neither data nor theory provide much support for the precision of their numerical outputs. Under such circumstances, a refined appreciation of uncertainty in results is inhibited, and even awareness of quality of workmanship can be atrophied.
In the course of the development of climate-change science, all sorts of loose ends were left unresolved and sometimes unattended. Even the most fundamental quantitative parameter of all, the forcing factor relating the increase in mean temperature to a doubling of CO2, lies somewhere between 1 and 3 degrees, and is thus uncertain to within a factor of 3. The precision (at about 2%) in the statements of the ‘safe limits’ of CO2 concentration, depending on calculations with this factor, is not easily justified. Also, the predictive power of the global temperature models has been shown to depend more on the ‘story line’ than anything else, the end-of century increase in temperature ranging variously from a modest one degree to a catastrophic six. And the ‘hockey stick’ picture of the past, so crucial for the strict version of the climate change story, has run into increasingly severe problems. As an example, it relied totally on a small set of deeply uncertain tree-ring data for the Medieval period, to refute the historical evidence of a warming then; but it needed to discard that sort of data for recent decades, as they showed a sudden cooling from the 1960’s onwards! In the publication, the recent data from other sources were skilfully blended in so that the change was not obvious; that was the notorious ‘Nature trick’ of the CRU e-mails.
Even worse, for the warming case to have political effect, a mere global average rise in temperature was not compelling enough. So that people could appreciate the dangers, there needed to be predictions of future climate – or even weather – in the various regions of the world. Given the gross uncertainties in even the aggregated models, regional forecasts are really beyond the limits of science. And yet they have been provided, with various degrees of precision. Those announced by the IPCC have become the most explosive.
As all these anomalies and unsolved puzzles emerged, the neat, compelling picture became troubled and even confused. In Kuhn’s analysis, this would be the start of a ‘pre-revolutionary’ phase of normal science. But the political cause had been taken up by powerful advocates, like Al Gore. We found ourselves in another crusading ‘War’, like those on (non-alcoholic) Drugs and ‘Terror’. This new War, on Carbon, was equally simplistic, and equally prone to corruption and failure. Global warming science became the core element of this major worldwide campaign to save the planet. Any weakening of the scientific case would have amounted to a betrayal of the good cause, as well as a disruption of the growing research effort. All critics, even those who were full members of the scientific peer community, had to be derided and dismissed. As we learned from the CRU e-mails, they were not considered to be entitled to the normal courtesies of scientific sharing and debate. Requests for information were stalled, and as one witty blogger has put it, ‘peer review’ was replaced by ‘pal review’.
Even now, the catalogue of unscientific practices revealed in the mainstream media is very small in comparison to what is available on the blogosphere. Details of shoddy science and dirty tricks abound. By the end, the committed inner core were confessing to each other that global temperatures were falling, but it was far too late to change course. The final stage of corruption, cover-up, had taken hold. For the core scientists and the leaders of the scientific communities, as well as for nearly all the liberal media, ‘the debate was over’. Denying Climate Change received the same stigma as denying the Holocaust. Even the trenchant criticisms of the most egregious errors in the IPCC reports were kept ‘confidential’. And then came the e-mails.
We can understand the root cause of Climategate as a case of scientists constrained to attempt to do normal science in a post-normal situation. But climate change had never been a really ‘normal’ science, because the policy implications were always present and strong, even overwhelming. Indeed, if we look at the definition of ‘post-normal science’, we see how well it fits: facts uncertain,values in dispute, stakes high, and decisions urgent. In needing to treat Planet Earth like a textbook exercise, the climate scientists were forced to break the rules of scientific etiquette and ethics, and to play scientific power-politics in a way that inevitably became corrupt. The combination of non-critical ‘normal science’ with anti-critical ‘evangelical science’ was lethal. As in other ‘gate’ scandals, one incident served to pull a thread on a tissue of protective plausibilities and concealments, and eventually led to an unravelling. What was in the e-mails could be largely explained in terms of embattled scientists fighting off malicious interference; but the materials ready and waiting on the blogosphere provided a background, and that is what converted a very minor scandal to a catastrophe.
Consideration of those protective plausibilities can help to explain how the illusions could persist for so long until their sudden collapse. The scientists were all reputable, they published in leading peer-reviewed journals, and their case was itself highly plausible and worthy in a general way. Individual criticisms were, for the public and perhaps even for the broader scientific community, kept isolated and hence muffled and lacking in systematic significance. And who could have imagined that at its core so much of the science was unsound? The plausibility of the whole exercise was, as it were, bootstrapped. I myself was alerted to weaknesses in the case by some caveats in Sir David King’s book The Hot Topic; and I had heard of the hockey-stick affair. But even I was carried along by the bootstrapped plausibility, until the scandal broke. (I have benefited from the joint project on plausibility in science of colleagues in Oxford and at the Arizona State University).
Part of the historic significance of Climategate is that the scandal was so effectively and quickly exposed. Within a mere two months of the first reports in the mainstream media, the key East Anglia scientists and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change were discredited. Even if only a fraction of their scientific claims were eventually refuted, their credibility as trustworthy scientists was lost. To explain how it all happened so quickly and decisively, we have the confluence of two developments, one social and the other technical. For the former, there is a lesson of Post-Normal Science, that we call the Extended Peer Community. In traditional ‘normal’ science, the peer community, performing the functions of quality-assurance and governance, is strictly confined to the researchers who share the paradigm. In the case of ‘professional consultancy’, the clients and/or sponsors also participate in governance. We have argued that in the case of Post-Normal Science, the ‘extended peer community’, including all affected by the policy being implemented, must be fully involved. Its particular contribution will depend on the nature of the core scientific problem, and also on the phase of investigation. Detailed technical work is a task for experts, but quality-control on even that work can be done by those with much broader expertise. And on issues like the definition of the problem itself, the selection of personnel, and crucially the ownership of the results, the extended peer community has full rights of participation. This principle is effectively acknowledged in many jurisdictions, and for many policy-related problems. The theory of Post-Normal Science goes beyond the official consensus in recognising ‘extended facts’, that might be local knowledge and values, as well as unoffficially obtained information.
The task of creating and involving the extended peer community (generally known as ‘participation’) has been recognised as difficult, with its own contradictions and pitfalls. It has grown haphazardly, with isolated successes and failures. Hitherto, critics of scientific matters have been relegated to a sort of samizdat world, exchanging private letters or writing books that can easily be ignored (as not being peer-reviewed) by the ruling establishment. This has generally been the fate of even the most distinguished and responsible climate-change critics, up to now. A well-known expert in uncertainty management, Jeroen van der Sluijs, explicitly condemned the ‘overselling of certainty’ and predicted the impending destruction of trust; but he received no more attention than did Nikolas Taleb in warning of the ‘fat tails’ in the probability distributions of securities that led to the Credit Crunch. A prominent climate scientist, Mike Hulme, provided a profound analysis in Why We Disagree About Climate Change, in terms of complexity and uncertainty. But since legitimate disagreement was deemed nonexistent, he too was ignored.
To have a political effect, the ‘extended peers’ of science have traditionally needed to operate largely by means of activist pressure-groups using the media to create public alarm. In this case, since the global warmers had captured the moral high ground, criticism has remained scattered and ineffective, except on the blogosphere. The position of Green activists is especially difficult, even tragic; they have been ‘extended peers’ who were co-opted into the ruling paradigm, which in retrospect can be seen as a decoy or diversion from the real, complex issues of sustainability, as shown by Mike Hulme. Now they must do some very serious re-thinking about their position and their role.
The importance of the new media of communications in mass politics, as in the various ‘rainbow revolutions’ is well attested. To understand how the power-politics of science have changed in the case of Climategate, we can take a story from the book Here Comes Everybody by Clay Shirkey. There were two incidents in the Boston U.S.A. diocese of the Roman Catholic Church, involving the shuffling of paeodophile priests around parishes. The first time, there was a criminal prosecution, with full exposure in the press, and then nothing happened. The second time, the outraged parents got on their cell phones and organised; and eventually Cardinal Archbishop Bernard Francis Law (who had started as a courageous cleric in the ‘60’s) had to leave for Rome in disgrace. The Climategate affair shows the importance of the new IT for science, as an empowerment of the extended peer community.
The well-known principle, ‘knowledge is power’ has its obverse, ‘ignorance is impotence’. And ignorance is maintained, or eventually overcome, by a variety of socio-technical means. With the invention of cheap printing on paper, the Bible could be widely read, and heretics became Reformers. The social activity of science as we know it expanded and grew through the age of printing. But knowledge was never entirely free, and the power-politics of scientific legitimacy remained quite stable for centuries. The practice of science has generally been restricted to a social elite and its occasional recruits, as it requires a prior academic education and a sufficiency of leisure and of material resources. With the new information technology, all that is changing rapidly. As we see from the ‘open source’ movement, many people play an active role in enjoyable technological development in the spare time that their job allows or even encourages. Moreover, all over IT there are blogs that exercise quality control on the industry’s productions. In this new knowledge industry, the workers can be as competent as the technicians and bosses. The new technologies of information enable the diffusion of scientific competence and the sharing of unofficial information, and hence give power to peer communities that are extended far beyond the Ph.D.s in the relevant subject-specialty. The most trenchant and effective critics of the ‘hockey stick’ statistics were a University-employed economist and a computer expert.
Like any other technology, IT is many-faceted. It is easily misused and abused, and much of the content of the blogosphere is trivial or worse. The right-wing political agendas of some climate sceptics, their bloggers and their backers, are quite well known. But to use their background or motivation as an excuse for ignoring their arguments, is a betrayal of science. The blogosphere interacts with other media of communication, in the public and scientific domains. Some parts are quite mainstream, others not. The Climategate blogosphere is as varied in quality as any other. Some leading scholars, like Roger Pielke, Jr. have had personal blogs for a long time. Some blogs are carefully monitored, have a large readership and are sampled by the mainstream media (such as the one on which this is posted, Wattsupwiththat.com). Others are less rigorous; but the same variation in quality can be found in the nominally peer-reviewed scientific literature. Keeping up with the blogosphere requires different skills from keeping up with traditional literature; it is most useful to find a summarising blog that fits one’s special interests, as well as a loyal correspondent, as (in my case) Roger ‘tallbloke’ Tattersall.
Some mainstream publications are now saying nice things about the blogosphere. Had such sentiments been expressed a while ago, the critical voices might have had a public hearing and the Climategate scandal might have been exposed before it became entrenched so disastrously. And now the critical blogosphere does not need to be patronised. Like any extension of political power, whether it be the right to believe, to protest, to vote, to form trades unions, or to be educated, it can lead to instabilities and abuses. But now the extended peer community has a technological base, and the power-politics of science will be different. I cannot predict how it will work out, but we can be confident that corruptions built on bootstrapped plausibility will be less likely in the future.
There is an important philosophical dimension to Climategate, a question of the relation of personal scientific ethics to objective scientific facts. The problem is created by the traditional image of science (as transmitted in scientific education) as ‘value-free’. The personal commitments to integrity, that are necessary for the maintenance of scientific quality, receive no mention in the dominant philosophy of science. Kuhn’s disenchanted picture of science was so troubling to the idealists (as Popper) because in his ‘normal’ science criticism had hardly any role. For Kuhn, even the Mertonian principles of ethical behaviour were effectively dismissed as irrelevant. Was this situation truly ‘normal’ – meaning either average or (worse) appropriate? The examples of shoddy science exposed by the Climategate convey a troubling impression. From the record, it appears that in this case, criticism and a sense of probity needed to be injected into the system by the extended peer community from the (mainly) external blogosphere.
The total assurance of the mainstream scientists in their own correctness and in the intellectual and moral defects of their critics, is now in retrospect perceived as arrogance. For their spokespersons to continue to make light of the damage to the scientific case, and to ignore the ethical dimension of Climategate, is to risk public outrage at a perceived unreformed arrogance. If there is a continuing stream of ever more detailed revelations, originating in the blogosphere but now being brought to a broader public, then the credibility of the established scientific authorities will continue to erode. Do we face the prospect of the IPCC reports being totally dismissed as just more dodgy dossiers, and of hitherto trusted scientists being accused of negligence or worse? There will be those who with their own motives will be promoting such a picture. How can it be refuted?
And what about the issue itself? Are we really experiencing Anthropogenic Carbon-based Global Warming? If the public loses faith in that claim, then the situation of science in our society will be altered for the worse. There is very unlikely to be a crucial experience that either confirms or refutes the claim; the post-normal situation is just too complex. The consensus is likely to depend on how much trust can still be put in science. The whole vast edifice of policy commitments for Carbon reduction, with their many policy prescriptions and quite totalitarian moral exhortations, will be at risk of public rejection. What sort of chaos would then result? The consequences for science in our civilisation would be extraordinary.
To the extent that the improved management of uncertainty and ignorance can remedy the situation, some useful tools are at hand. In the Netherlands, scholars and scientists have developed ‘Knowledge Quality Assessment’ methodologies for characterising uncertainty in ways that convey the richness of the phenomenon while still performing well as robust tools of analysis and communication. Elsewhere, scholars are exploring methods for managing disagreement among scientists, so that such post-normal issues do not need to become so disastrously polarised. A distinguished scholar, Sheila Jasanoff, has called for a culture of humility among scientists, itself a radical move towards a vision of a non-violent science. Scientists who have been forced to work on the blogosphere have had the invaluable experience of exclusion and oppression; that could make it easier for them to accept that something is seriously wrong and then to engage in the challenging moral adventures of dealing with uncertainty and ignorance. The new technologies of communications are revolutionising knowledge and power in many areas. The extended peer community of science on the blogosphere will be playing its part in that process. Let dialogue commence!
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My thanks to numerous friends and colleagues for their loyal assistance through all the drafts of this essay. The final review at a seminar at the Institute of Science, Innovation and Society at Oxford University was very valuable, particularly the intervention from ‘the man in the bus queue’.
The near future of science now rests in the hands of the few who went down a political urgency path with it. Jones, Mann, Hansen, Karl, etc. need to undo (tell all) what they have been up to. Entrenching does no good here. Damaged institutions means that politicians have liscense to pursue in a void.
Only scientists can rescue science.
I’m not one of them, therefore I cannot help them.
And I believe James Hansen fully understands what I mean by ‘a void’, watching politicians go down a Cap & Trade path.
He must disentrench in order to undo his own damage.
“The carbon markets are failing in their role of encouraging investment in cutting CO 2 emissions, MPs have concluded.
The environmental audit committee has urged the government to consider other measures, such as a floor price for carbon dioxide emissions, which would provide industries with greater certainty over the price of carbon and help to ensure the system of pricing was effective.”
Carbon markets failing, say British MPs
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d89b64ee-1452-11df-8847-00144feab49a.html
I suggest the invest their money in rock salt.
I really take exception to the TRIVIAL and mentally LAZY assumption that “CO2 is a ‘greenhouse gas’..and therefore…if it increases, ipso-facto the temperature of the atmopshere increases.
First of all, I suggest the 1909 work by Dr. Robert Woods, which shows that the action of a “greenhouse” has NOTHING to do with the transparency or non-transparency of normal sodium glass to longwave IR. (Google the result, find the report, and also many classic meteorology texts even SITE the report and note that the stabalization temperature of the earth’s atmosphere caused by H2O (almost entirely) and partially by CO2…should be called the “atmopsheric effect” as it is unique to the atmosphere.)
Secondly, I point out to the work by the “grandaddy” of atmospheric radation exchange analysis, Dr. Elsasser. In Dr. Elsasser’s treatment of atmospheric radiation exchange, he includes CO2 in the calculation formulation. But when he derives the classic Elsasser diagram to calculate the net radiation exchange, day to day…using radiosone balloon humidity/pressure/temp measurements, he explicitly EXCLUDES CO2 in the 0 to 30,000 ft realm, because it acts as an even UPFLUX and DOWNFLUX agent.
Then we add Plass’s (1957) work, calculating the STRATOSPHERIC COOLING effect of CO2 (which comes about due to the number of steradians which each CO2 molecule “sees” to radiate too, at that altitude, compared to closer to the earth) and you have a NET ZERO INFLUENCE of CO2.
Now all of this information is AVAILABLE in all the “classic” Meteorology texts. It drives me NUTS when people, supposedly EDUCATED people, don’t know ANYTHING about the basics, and make these “TRIVIAL” and shallow statements about the effects of CO2, based on their intellectual laziness.
Sorry, rant over.
I agree that the influence of money [including the unstated threat of losing one’s job for speaking out] is a very effective leash, and maybe should have been mentioned. No doubt Prof Ravetz had his reasons for not writing about it.
But money doesn’t explain all of the behavior. There is also status, which is hard-wired into us. In a prehistoric tribe, status could easily mean the difference between survival and death.
From a report in the Economist about a psychology experiment, here is an example of how social status works: when people were asked whether they would prefer to earn $100,000 a year, when everyone else they knew was earning $50,000 a year, or whether they would rather earn $150,000 a year, when everyone they knew was earning $300,000 a year, the answer invariably given was that they would prefer to earn the lower amount — as long as it was more than other people they knew earned, they were happy. Greater social status is more important than an arbitrary number of dollars.
Another example of status: during the Roman civil war, when Caesar’s army was marching in the Alps they came upon an extremely destitute, dirt-poor village. One of Caesar’s lieutenants jokingly asked Caesar how he’d like to be the head man of that no-account village. Caesar answered, “Better head man here than second man in Rome.” Status is deeply ingrained. It goes back to Cain and Abel, and it trumps money.
When someone buys into an idea, such as a belief in AGW for which there is no measurable evidence, status predominates. There is no doubt that Phil Jones is taking his loss of status very hard, even though it only amounts to loss of his title; his pay, benefits, and office were not taken away, only the title of Director. It is easy to sniff at Jones’ lamentations, but there is no doubt that he takes the loss of his name-plate extremely hard. He is acutely aware that he is diminished in the eyes of his peers.
For the rank-and-file followers of AGW, including many other well educated people who should know better, their belief system is all-important. It allows them to feel superior to the hated “denialists,” because they believe they have inside knowledge — even when they are decisively proven wrong:
Another coup, Anthony, Steve, Jeff et al.
An excellent essay.
Part of the problem is that so few of our legislators (UK or US) have any maths or science background, they seem to be lawyers or “social scientists” of one sort or another. Look back at your high school days and all the clever kids became very poor (financially) scientists or less poor medics (at least in good old Blighty), while the academically less able assume positions of power!
Our legislators know the real “pecking order” but are aware of their inadequacies, so they feel they cannot challenge the “settled science” supported by second rate media science graduates, or the propaganda from Greenpeace or WWF.
Eisenhower suggested that “science” could be corrupted by governmental funding and, I suggest, that is what we are seeing now.
No doubt, this essay by Prof. Ravetz will be an editorial in the Telegraph, a once proud independent newspaper, and main lead on BBC,s Newsnight.
“Climategate is particularly significant because it cannot be blamed on the well-known malign influences from outside science, be they greedy corporations or an unscrupulous State. This scandal, and the resulting crisis, was created by people within science who can be presumed to have been acting with the best of intentions. ”
Science has not been without dogma and contests of rhetoric. Think of the reception Pasteur received in his early days.
In this case, a couple of malign influences from outside science are huge funding and prestige. It’s also clear that politics had a part to play in Climategate, whether the personal politics of the people involved or the impossibility of not supporting an establishment position they’d helped to create, or the eagerness of the establishment to brush it away.
I dislike this term ‘post normal science’. It comes across as an attempt to make acceptable something which is not science at all, but political aims dressed in the clothing of science to legitimise them. We’ve seen this before in Lysenkoism. Pseudoscience is a better term.
I would say Climategate also shows a slow process of being drawn into an impossible position, like some computer frauds which started with small irregular adjustments to hide problems and grew into huge frauds.
Indeed, good article, saving the penultimate paragraph. As Pat Moffitt above says though, if anyone thinks this kind of bias/corruption is exclusive to global warming they are sadly mistaken; even naive. Climate change may be the (not so) glamorous poster boy of corrupted science, but it is by no means the only.
My personal dealings are in bioinformatics/genetics, bordering on the ever controversial “origin of life” question. Research grants, publicity, donations, etc must all be framed in reference to Darwins archaic theory, even though no one on the team seriously believes it. However, anyone caught critiquing it in public is quickly ostracized and dismissed as a “flat earther”, a la global warming. Such is the greed induced everyday hypocrisy and two facedness – no longer truth seekers but dogma teachers to the unwashed masses.
My point: unfortunately it takes an active search for truth on the part of the individual; you certainly won’t get it spoon fed to you by a BBC special. Hell would freeze over sooner. Well done WUWT for doing your part in tackling science gone bad.
The Weather Channel keeps promoting man-made global warming and they just did a story of a little girl who died while digging in the snow. The Weather channel has no soul.
Well done that man.
I’m particularly taken with the gentle putting-in-box of Kuhn and his Paradigms. I’d always suspected that there was less to them than their apparent ubiquity suggested, and now the good Prof has relegated Kuhn to the ‘tractable problem’ area. And as a follower from way back of NN Taleb, I appreciate the financial/climate science analogy.
Thank you very much for a ‘Dissertation on Roast Kuhn’.
Asks Jerome Ravetz,
“. . . And who could have imagined that at its core so much of the science was unsound?”
I hate to tell Prof. Ravetz this, but many of us, scientists and laymen alike, knew right off the bat that the science behind the claims of ‘global warming’ was unsound. All we needed were a few facts:
only 20,000 years ago, much of the northern hemisphere was covered in ice;
only 1,000 years ago, Vikings were farming in Greenland;
only 40 years ago, hysterics were bemoaning the coming Ice Age;
and for the last three decades, the principal exponents of ‘global warming’ were political ideologues, a motley mix of Marxists, neo-Luddites, opportunistic politicians, and ‘green’ activists, whose success at infiltrating governments and the academies left graduate students and even professors afraid to speak up against the new orthodoxy.
It didn’t take much acumen to discern that there was no real science going on here—all you had to do was watch Al Gore’s fantasy film. If you wanted, you could look more closely at the paleo-climatic record (where CO2 changes always follow temperature changes), or at the unlikely prospect that a little atmospheric CO2 could have the effect claimed for it, or at how the ‘climate scientists’ ignored clouds—or just listen to Prof. Fred Singer, or Prof. Richard Lindzen, or Prof. Robert Carter, and many others who endured the opprobrium of peers and the press to keep bravely pointing out that the ‘climate change’ emperor had no clothes.
It doesn’t say much for Prof. Ravetz that it took Climategate to wipe the scales from his eyes. But better late than never, I suppose.
/Mr Lynn
If the public loses faith in that claim, then the situation of science in our society will be altered for the worse>
I *think* he means that if the science cannot be proven to be true, after recent events, and people therefore come to feel they have been misled>
He means that massive discrediting of climate science will be used for other purposes. How long till creationists demand equal billing in the education system and cite the climate scandal as evidence that evolution may also be flawed? How long until some major polluter raises as a defense in court that the science showing the damage done is no more settled than is climate science? How many bright young minds will seek carreers other than science because it is associated in their minds with corruption and greed?
He is exactly right about the evolution of information.
5000 BC. Shaman; spirits who only I can talk to angry, must be appeased. Bring much gold, put in my tent.
1000 AD. Priest; Book which only I have a copy of says build army, kill other people, bring me their gold. Put it in my tent.
Reformation (year?) The people. Hey, we got a copy of that book, that’s not what it says.
1990 or so. Scientist; complicated study which only I can understand predicts disaster. Bring much gold. Put in my tent.
2010. Blogosphere; We read the study (that you tried to keep secret) we evaluated the data (that you tried to keep secret) and we understood the science (which you said we couldn’t). We condemn you to dustheap of history with Priest and Shaman. No gold for you.
tallbloke (15:59:48) :
Steve Goddard (15:24:37) :
Very nice analysis. Which college at Oxford?
Perhaps the Hockey Stick was Saddam’s WMD?
http://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/centres/insis/associatefellows/Pages/jerryravetz.aspx
The Hockey Stick was the weapon of choice of the Woman of Mad Destruction. You know who I mean.
Tamino?
With respect, which intentions are those?
The problem is that for the masses, either they are converted, or they simply could not care less as long as their next meal is available.
The AGW trojan horse has been rolled through the gates, and the hidden agendas are now spread far and wide.
We know that at one time Saddam Hussein did possess weapons of mass destruction. However, with regard to AGW, it does not appear to this scientist that the climate change we experience today is that unusual. We do know that CO2 is rising and is a greenhouse gas. We do not know what effect this has in the complex global system.
For all we know, the net effect of fossil fuel burning is overwhelmingly beneficial and in fact may even be preventing another ice age (at least for the time being).
And yet there are those who ignore the uncertainty and are so sure that the matter is settled.
“There is no scientific merit to be found in the Executive Summary. The presentation sounds like something put together by Greenpeace activists and their legal department. The points being made are made arbitrarily with legal sounding caveats without having established any foundation or basis in fact. The Executive Summary seems to be a political statement that is only designed to annoy greenhouse skeptics. Wasn’t the IPCC Assessment Report intended to be a scientific document that would merit solid backing from the climate science community – instead of forcing many climate scientists into having to agree with greenhouse skeptic criticisms that this is indeed a report with a clear and obvious political agenda. Attribution can not happen until understanding has been clearly demonstrated. Once the facts of climate change have been established and understood, attribution will become self-evident to all. The Executive Summary as it stands is beyond redemption and should simply be deleted”
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report is Rubbish – Says Yet Another Expert
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/10002559/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report-is-rubbish-says-yet-another-expert/
I enjoyed the post by Mr. Ravetz, especially the breadth of it that helps see view that reveals philosophy and science as an integrated unity.
Thank you Tallbloke for matchmaking him with Anthony.
First and foremost, to go forward with the scientific study of the earth’s climate by scientists then we just need scientists-as-scientists, not “climate scientists” and not “climate science”. Many voluntary aggregate groups of scientists each addressing an aspect of the earth’s climate would suffice.
Is it surprising to some that what we in the modern world view as science has a fundamental necessary connection with philosophy? It apparently does surprise some. Would it surprise many that science is not just rationally connected to the epistemological and metaphysical branches of philosophy, but also even must be necessarily connected rationally to the ethical and political branches as well? I could even present a case that science has a very strong rational connection to the esthetic branch of philosophy.
[and no, I am not referring to beauticians/plastic surgeons by the word esthetic nor to astrology/fortune tellers/mystics with the word metaphysics]
John
I blame it all on [snip] James Hansen
I don’t mind recycling the trees and plants and stuff that died thousands or millions of years ago.
No really, I would like to see the real Science settled, not just the political science.
“Mr. Ravetz is an environmental consultant and professor of philosophy of science best known for his books challenging the assumptions of scientific objectivity, discussing the science wars and post-normal science.”
Post-Normal Science. Bletch.
I find nothing here but an invitation to equivocate scientific method with politics, empiricism with feelings, and academic rigor with populism.
I appreciate the comments by Professor Jerome Ravetz of Oxford University.
But in my opinion the depth of the problem goes much, much deeper:
An unholy alliance of politicians, publishers, and news media are using science as a propaganda tool to control people.
Anthony Watts and others discovered this in false global climate reports.
I discovered this in false reports of space sciences and astrophysics.
Climategate exposed an alliance of politicians, climatologists, publishers, funding agencies, and news media that were willing to distort or hide experimental data for their own selfish purposes.
NASAgate will expose the same misuse of science by an alliance of space scientists, politicians, astrophysicists, funding agencies, publishers, and the news media.
Thus the analysis by Professor Jerome Ravetz seems superficial:
“In the event of a serious discrediting of the global-warming claims, public outrage would therefore be directed at the community of science itself, and (from within that community) at its leaders who were either ignorant or complicit until the scandal was blown open. If we are to understand Climategate, and move towards a restoration of trust, we should consider the structural features of the situation that fostered and nurtured the damaging practices. I believe that the ideas of Post-Normal Science (as developed by Silvio Funtowicz and myself) can help our understanding.”
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Emeritus Professor of
Nuclear & Space Sciences
Former NASA PI for Apollo
Excellent analysis- one of the best so far. This essay, together with Stott’s “Collapse of a Grand Narrative” and Plimer’s Essington Lewis Lecture are to me the 3 most thoughtful so far.
By the way, I note you credit ‘the man in the bus queue’. I assume you are aware that in British legal history the “man on the clapham omnibus” was used as a device to represent the views of a sensible, reasonably informed and honest observer.
For those who haven’t read these other two seminal pieces, I envy you, because you will have the pleasure of reading them for the first time- here are the links:
http://web.me.com/sinfonia1/Clamour_Of_The_Times/Clamour_Of_The_Times/Entries/2010/1/30_Global_Warming%3A_the_Collapse_of_a_Grand_Narrative.html
http://climaterealists.com/attachments/database/EssLewisAusIMM1109.pdf
You might also be interested in re-reading Feynman’s famous Cargo Cult Science speech from 40 years ago, which is also apposite: http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm
And for those who think this is an entirely new phenomenon, Bacon said it all 400 years ago, in 1620: “Those who have taken upon them to lay down the law of nature as a thing already searched out and understood, whether they have spoken in simple assurance or professional affectation, have therein done philosophy and the sciences great injury. For as they have been successful in inducing belief, so they have been effective in quenching and stopping inquiry; and have done more harm by spoiling and putting an end to other men’s efforts than good by their own.”
http://www.constitution.org/bacon/nov_org.htm
Max Hugoson (17:37:59) :
Thanks for the clear and simple explanation of the stratospheric cooling effect of CO2 and reminding us of Elsasser diagrams. I hadn’t been aware of the fact he had explicitly included the effect of CO2 but I do remember that it was only water vapour that was considered in his diagrams.
“The fault, dear Brutus is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings”
Julius Caesar, Act III Scene 4.
Ahem
I must admit to being a little confused. This article is by a Professor of Philosophy who’s essay is basically a rehash of information that has been out in the open for some time. Nice worded analysis and all that but it is written by someone who is quoted as saying “the puzzle-solving approach of ‘normal science’ is obsolete”.
I know very little about “Post Normal Science” and will have to read a little more about it but I will stick to good old fashioned science for now…..It seems to have served us well on the whole and has only been brought into disrepute by a few practitioners who appear to have used it for their own agenda.