The London Times is reporting:
“The chairman of the leading climate change watchdog was informed that claims about melting Himalayan glaciers were false before the Copenhagen summit, The Times has learnt.
Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists.”
See the Times article here
And from Richard North at The EU Referendum, this video news report link and his commentary:
Less than a week after he claimed the IPCC’s credibility had increased as a result of its handling of the “Glaciergate” scandal, Pachauri’s own personal credibility lies in tatters as The Times accuses him of a direct lie.
This is about when he first became aware of the false claim over the melting glaciers, Pachauri’s version on 22 January being that he had only known about it “for a few days” – i.e., after it had appeared in The Sunday Times.
However, Ben Webster writes that a prominent science journalist, Pallava Bagla – who works for the Science journal (and NDTV as its science correspondent) – claims that last November he had informed Pachauri that Graham Cogley, a professor at Ontario Trent University and a leading glaciologist, had dismissed the 2035 date as being wrong by at least 300 years. Pachauri had replied: “I don’t have anything to add on glaciers.”
Bagla interviewed Dr Pachauri again this week and asked him why he had decided to overlook the error before the Copenhagen summit. In the taped interview, he asked: “I pointed it out [the error] to you in several e-mails, several discussions, yet you decided to overlook it. Was that so that you did not want to destabilise what was happening in Copenhagen?”
Dr Pachauri replied: “Not at all, not at all. As it happens, we were all terribly preoccupied with a lot of events. We were working round the clock with several things that had to be done in Copenhagen. It was only when the story broke, I think in December, we decided to, well, early this month — as a matter of fact, I can give you the exact dates — early in January that we decided to go into it and we moved very fast.”
According to Pachauri, “… within three or four days, we were able to come up with a clear and a very honest and objective assessment of what had happened. So I think this presumption on your part or on the part of any others is totally wrong. We are certainly never — and I can say this categorically — ever going to do anything other than what is truthful and what upholds the veracity of science.”
Without even Bagla’s input, we know this to be lies. Apart from anything else, there was the crisis meeting under the aegis of UNEP – which we reported on Thursday – which concluded that the 2035 claim “does not appear to be based upon any scientific studies and therefore has no foundation”.
Read his complete essay here
It’s never the lie that get you – it’s the cover-up.
Although Pachauri of TERI (Trick Every Reasonable Individual) and Jones of CRU (Crooked Research Unit) can squeal and bleat they have done nothing wrong, it is fast becoming apparent that only career politicians and the gullible are prepared to believe them anymore.
The bottom line is we have to go back to basics – back to the basic data of many thousands of temperature sites – and have sceptics and alarmists both agree how the readings from each one of these sites should be adjusted/’homogenised’ to reflect reality. This is a truly huge task as all the CRU manipulated data is now so corrupted/manipulated as to be effectively useless.
The next task is to have a well-funded independent scientific commission of independents, advised by both sceptics and alarmists, scientifically prove the warming impact, if any, of each of the various ‘greenhouse gases’ and then determine whether or not natural cycles, ‘greenhouse gases’, or a mixture of both is responsible for the very modest warming trend (~0.7 degrees C) of the past century.
This unfortunately would be impossible for many reasons, but most importantly as it would remove much of the reason for the existence of the many deeply flawed greenie and quasi-government funded climate organisations – no more snouts in the grants trough would not be an acceptable option for the self-appointed leaders of the alarmists.
Pachauri obviously needs to go – but he is only a small part of the issue. We have in place multiple individuals who are wedded to an activist environmentalist agenda. Taking out Pachauri will be useful only insofar as it leads to changes in the way lead authors are chosen and the original review and summary criteria for the IPCC are adhered to.
In other news Obama takes on college football, right up there with climate change and IPCC fraud.
“Justice Dept.: Obama administration may take action on BCS”
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/fo….f#ixzz0e6iLwwX0
climate skepticism – the new form of gay.
Have you come out of the closet yet?
Need advice on how to tell your parents?
In the army they have a dont ask, dont tell policy.
We really need a skeptics pride ‘march’ day
Someone else may have pointed this out but the following from ABC news on-line via Climate Depot. (My bold)
“Toyota, the world’s largest automaker, also contributed $80,000 to TERI. Last week the Japanese company was awarded the $1.5 million (¬1.05 million) “Zayed Future Energy Prize” for its Prius hybrid car. Pachauri was the chairman of the jury, but he explains that he temporarily suspended his chairmanship because of his consulting activities. Nevertheless, he did manage to praise Toyota at the awards ceremony in Abu Dhabi, saying that the company deserves “the fullest appreciation” for bringing about a radical shift in technology.
zombiehellmonkey (02:46:46) :
You the man! ROTFLMAO. Good acting by RKP!
A good post from The Times comment section
“toyotawhizguy (04:13:28) :
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since blocking dissenting views is the hallmark of propagandist sites that have an agenda, have an aversion to debate and don’t give a **** about the truth.”
Just for the record, the WWF did delete my comments when i wanted to soothe them about the fate of the polar bear, pointing out that its numbers are up. One moment my post was up, the next it was gone without a trace. Maybe they don’t want their visitors to be informed? Wonder why?
Lal now claims he was misquoted. He’ll be able to brazen it out unless the reporter taped him. Or if an IPCC insider or (preferably) two comes out with accounts of routine internal suppression of awkward corrections.
OTOH, if the reporter has got him taped, then Lal will be done for. (It’s the cover-up that sinks you, not the crime.)
OT…I clicked on the Join Leonardo/NRDC go-to ad link….and found this little gem..
“…Not to mention the fact that President Obama spent 15 hours at the negotiating table in Copenhagen drafting an international climate accord with his own pen because he believes so deeply in the need to confront climate change…”
I said “Wow. What a sacrifice.”
But the good part is that WUWT gets paid, AND I get inspired by the acts of our great leaders.
See? It pays to click on the links!!
Pachauri, Lal, Jones, Mann (et al) are mortally wounded has beens. Gut shot banditos. It really doesn’t matter if they stay on where they are at or not, their organizations are also dying a slow uncureable death. It’s a vicious form of organizational cancer.
Not seen this linked to yet, so here goes.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/29/water-vapour-climate-change
An apparently rational report about research that may imply a negative feedback via H2O, with the Guardian apparently reporting it a non-hysterical manner.
Susan Solomon, of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, says something that deserves an award if true:
“What I will say, is that this [new study] shows there are climate scientists round the world who are trying very hard to understand and to explain to people openly and honestly what has happened over the last decade.”
Turns out Obama et al in the White House have included about$700 Billion in Cap & Trade revenues in their budget projections.
As the IPCC fraud unravels, as Barry’s political bank account goes into over draft, it is very, very unlikely the Dumbocrats can scam or bribe Cap & Trade legislation into ka=law.
So the Obama administration will be looking at an additional deficit load equal to the “lost” revenue . . . should put the USA over the $2 TRILLION annual deficit.
That should make Americans want to support CO2 reductions.
“Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. ”
They knew this was wrong at the moment of conception.
When they did not have peer reviewed papers in their hand that they were looking at.
Not to mention the extra millimeters of extension to the nose due to thermal expansion from Mann made Global Warming and his Hockey Stick.
Jaymam,
Sorry to shake your cage – but YES! our kids are being fed this (explative deleted) and have been for years in science class. They believe their teachers, and the teachers believe what they’re teaching because Al Gore, a former Vice President, The EPA, the Federal Government, and etc. tell them so. Textbooks agree, and many teach the textbooks without critical review. Take a look at television – buy energy efficient appliances – not because it will save you money, but it will prevent three polar bears from drowning…
End of rant…
Satisfaction at seeing some people caught up in their own game, or overwhelmed by a desire to be important is one thing, but getting education into line will be the biggest problem.
Mike
Despite reports that CRU scientist could not be prosecuted, this article states otherwise:
Professor Phil Jones could face 10 years on fraud charges!!!!!!
http://www.climategate.com/climategate-professor-phil-jones-could-face-ten-years-on-fraud-charges
DennisA (02:17:44) :
You can hire Al Gore here: http://www.harrywalker.com/speaker/Al-Gore.cfm?Spea_ID=649
Could he be hired for a “Celebrity Dunk Tank” at a carnival?
*whock* (ball misses target)
Come on, show me some heat!
*whock*
Getting warmer!
*whock*
Getting hot now!
*clang* *sploosh*
Wow that’s cold!
Er, I meant warm. Warmer! It’s Boiling Hot!!
Why do these political pundits think that Pachauri will resign? They must be confusing him with someone who gives a damn.
Why do they think he will be pushed? They must be confusing the IPCC with a democratic institution, accountable to the people they serve.
These political pundits are normally right on the button when they comment on democratically elected representatives, but they are applying one measure to gauge something different. And yet, the longer he clings on, the more disrepute he will bring down upon the whole rotten edifice.
Ron de Haan,
Glad to see you got your email sorted!
I agree with your post, that too much emphasis has been given to the one confirmed illegality – FOIA violations. There are obviously more angles to this work in progress than that. Your link focuses on fraud, quite rightly. There is also the additional factor of conspiracy – clearly evidenced in the emails. Conspiracy to commit crimes is outside the summary justice act and not bound by the statute of limitations. I would have thought, at the very least, there is evidence of conspiracy to violate FOIA laws.
“While paying lip service to skeptics, UK chief science advisor insists it is “unchallengeable” that man is changing the climate!”
Well, it is. How *much* we are changing the climate, whether one means globally or locally, whether one means changing temperature or rainfall or snowfall, whether one means changing averages or distribution, and whether said changes are good, bad, indifferent or catastrophic, that of course is another matter completely!
Trouble is, what people hear when you say “man is changing the climate” is “man is causing catastrophic global warming” – but they’re not the same statement at all! Trick is to know both what he meant and what he was trying to imply…
@ur momisugly Baa Humbug (07:00:54) :
So Toyota sent TERI $80,000 and got $1.5 million back? Seems like the best return any investor in TERI is ever going to see.
BTW, can someone explain how the self-described full-time salaried TERI employee Pachauri could so busy setting up Copenhagen? Did he take vacation, go on sabbatical? Or is TERI simply paying at least one person to produce and promote reports that help it bring in customers and funds?
Conflict of interest? Of course not, no one’s self-interest was conflicted.
There’s now a Climategate Downfall lampoon linked from EUReferendum.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/it-aint-over.html
davidmhoffer (21:01:36) :
In primitive tribes, the fiercist warrior held the power to make group decisions. The smartest guy in the tribe became the shaman. ….
The power of the government and the priesthood to control the common man by speaking for the spirits, or propogating falshoods to foster hatred and justify a war while the truth of matters is locked in records to which the pulic has no access. I fear not the machinations of the IPCC and their ilk to control my life because the information to expose them and the medium to express it is so available. I always knew they would lose this one.
But the watchword is vigilence…..
The shaman’s mistake was inventing writing. My regrets to the many female posters here, I’m just to sleepy to word this to be more inclusive, but rest assured I mean all of us.
An excellent summation of history. Unfortunately the priesthood/chiefs have recently learned to remain hidden and work through puppets like Al Gore, Maurice Strong and Pachauri. In this way they avoid being lynched by the angry masses when they people realize they have been robbed. All they have to do is move onto the next scheme with new puppets and the masses never figure out who was actually behind their fleecing.
As a female I resent the politically correct terms since I consider myself part of “mankind” Politically correct terms are just another device used in the “lets you and he fight” game fostered by the priesthood/chiefs to control the masses.