It seems that the public just doesn’t share the worry some of the activists have.
From the Pew Research Center
Global Warming and the Environment
Dealing with global warming ranks at the bottom of the public’s list of priorities; just 28% consider this a top priority, the lowest measure for any issue tested in the survey.
Since 2007, when the item was first included on the priorities list, dealing with global warming has consistently ranked at or near the bottom. Even so, the percentage that now says addressing global warming should be a top priority has fallen 10 points from 2007, when 38% considered it a top priority. Such a low ranking is driven in part by indifference among Republicans: just 11% consider global warming a top priority, compared with 43% of Democrats and 25% of independents.
Protecting the environment fares somewhat better than dealing with global warming on the public’s list of priorities, though it still falls on the lower half of the list overall. Some 44% say that protecting the environment should be a top priority for Obama and Congress, little changed from 2009.
See the complete report at the Pew Research Center
h/t to Leif Svalgaard
Patrick Davis (02:32:33) :
On ABC here in Australia just watched a documentary about why the great Pyramid era of Egypt, 4200 years ago, failed. Yup! You’ve gussed it; catastrophic climate change.
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Patrick – note they didn’t say in which direction. The strong subliminal is actually that a cooling event could happen again. Since the Old Kingdom fell at the time of ‘Bond event 3’, and pharaonic Egypt arose as a result of ‘Bond event 4’ (they don’t mention these as Bond events, but do link the two events together). So logically you add two plus two or rather 4200BP minus 3 x 1400 and you get Chiefio’s ‘Bond event zero’.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/bond-event-zero/
The other clincher is they linked the fall to the oceanic currents without mentioning the Gulf Stream, although this was implied on the graphic.
(the documentary first came out in the US in April 2008, forgive us aussies we’re a bit slow)
Chris (23:40:23) :
Has anyone fed the historical AGW poll results into Mann’s hockey stick formula / system to see the results yet ?
Yes, the vote totals for the other 20 poll items were reduced in prior years showing that the total for global warming were the highest “on record” in this year’s poll. 🙂
Mike Ramsey
RichieP (01:14:47) :
Remind those jokers that during the “Year without a Summer” in Ohio, it was also known as the “Year of the Mackerel” in New England. The Sea is not an enemy, as Global Warming would have you believe, but is itself a source of food in times of Global Cooling.
But, knowing the half-truth IPCC, they don’t want anyone to catch on to what we should be doing: finding alternative sources of growing food.
That is diametrically opposed to green energy, which is perpetual motion with a paint job.
The title should specify where the survey was done (in the US).
Brian Johnson uk (01:49:57) :
As to the whereabouts of 1 Al Gore:
http://blog.algore.com/2010/01/green_pastors.html
He’s branching out into ‘Green Religion’. Apparently the Carbon Credit Market isn’t so hot, and Al needs the money.
I will not go says Climate Chief
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8479795.stm
Still trying to brazen it out.
The man is beyond belief.
So many posts but no reply to
http://www.skepticalscience.com/On-the-reliability-of-the-US-Surface-Temperature-Record.html
Apparently, those “bad” surface weather stations were reporting cooler temperatures instead of warmer. Thus, the warming in the US has been slightly higher.
Who would have though of that? Thanks Anthony.
“Bruce of Newcastle (03:48:47) :
Patrick Davis (02:32:33) :
On ABC here in Australia just watched a documentary about why the great Pyramid era of Egypt, 4200 years ago, failed. Yup! You’ve gussed it; catastrophic climate change.
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Patrick – note they didn’t say in which direction. The strong subliminal is actually that a cooling event could happen again. Since the Old Kingdom fell at the time of ‘Bond event 3′, and pharaonic Egypt arose as a result of ‘Bond event 4′ (they don’t mention these as Bond events, but do link the two events together). So logically you add two plus two or rather 4200BP minus 3 x 1400 and you get Chiefio’s ‘Bond event zero’.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/bond-event-zero/
The other clincher is they linked the fall to the oceanic currents without mentioning the Gulf Stream, although this was implied on the graphic.
(the documentary first came out in the US in April 2008, forgive us aussies we’re a bit slow)”
Indeed, who needs real geological facts to spin a catastrophic climate change story in this age of AGW scare mongering? That’s my point. Those “climatic” events changed the Egyption belief structure from one of trusting and believing their Pharaohs were “devine”, meaning they could control the environment, to one of preparing for change (Creating dams and reservoirs etc) via the use of their technology.
The Moche in what is now Peru also failed, attributed to “climate shifts”, but then too, no SUVs being driven.
So what does drive these swings? CO2?
That will be sad news indeed for the National (NAS) and International (IPCC) Academies of Misinformation (Propaganda).
Those research agencies not only manufacture “scientific truths,” they also work to discredit discoveries of real scientific truths.
Mysteriously, the US military has not spoken out for truth in propaganda campaigns designed to promote untruths (CO2-induced global warming) and to hide truths (N-N repulsion heats planet Earth, powers the Sun and the cosmos, and generates H as a waste product that fills interstellar space).
These are the sad truths are at the base of the Climategate scandal.
That is the rest of the story.
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Post-1984
Please remember this poll is about “Global Warming” as a targret for
government activity (as in tax dollars) and not on the
veracity of GW’s existance, or if the presumed phenomena is
manmade, natrual, or both; temporary, cyclical, or permanent.
A separate, unasked poll question relevant to WUWT readers might
be, “Do you think Global Warming is as real as some folks believe?”.
___Y ____N ____ Don’t know
The folks who commission Pew polls don’t really want that
question asked right now.
Where’s the democracy?
Politicians are supposed to be their peoples representatives. They are not superior beings, they are not our intellectual superiors, indeed some would ask how many of them have function thought processes at all. They are elected to implement our wishes but most of them have forgotten this.
Indeed, on some issues the major parties conveniently agree leaving voters no way to express their real wishes (unless they are Swiss and can have referenda when they want, or Californians who can bounce the incumbent out of office on a whim).
Pretty well any index of public opinion seems to show dealing with global warming just isn’t a priority. In fact, it could be argued that it is counter-productive if we consider that the top priority is dealing with the economy.
If we understand also that the proportion of citizens who believe in global warming is falling, but still up around just under 50% in the USA, then this means that even of those who believe in AGW a significant proportion don’t accept that it is an issue that should be dealt with.
Another commentator has mentioned Bjorn Lomberg, he mirrors this in his TED talks.
You tube has some of them here:
The man makes sense.
Politicians don’t.
It would have been interesting to see what Haitians were worring about last month
BernieL:
What this survey also show to me (an outsider) is that there is still strong public support for the Obama Administration in attempting to introduce the sorts of social welfare ’safety net’ systems that we in other developed countries are so used to, that is, I note: Social Sec (66), Medicare (63), Healthcare (57) and Helping the poor (53).
Nah, the Obama Healthcare “Plan” – he never had one, though – has been chronically disfavored by 15-20%. The Dems didn’t start with the idea of doing anything whatsoever effective in this area. People are worried that Medicare will be defunded more than it already is because Obama and Dems have said they want to do it by way of the “Bill”. It’s also about to go into the red.
SS, well one thing leads to another, and it’s about bankrupt too – all the excess collected over the years has been spent on other things. It’s going to have to be cut in some way or three.
Helping the poor? What does this have to do with Obama, who has only helped his cronies via the “Stimulus” bill, while not being effective in creating even a small blip in employment, which you’d think anyone given $787 billion to spend ad lib could do at least on a temporary basis. I think it’s only about half spent, the rest saved probably for Dem. electioneering.
In the recent Mass. election, the winner, Scott Brown, ran directly against Obama on healthcare, the economy/jobs, terrorism and something else. This is about the last place a Republican should have won.
One note, the poor Blacks in the U.S. largely reside in Democrat run inner city ghettos, which have been degenerating for a good 40 years ever since the Dem “Great Society” was instituted – a few steps up from what Haiti looks like to be sure, but one of the Elephants in the Progressive Room, which they keep so they can still rail about “the racists” and “the poor”.
I’ve seen it happen to the Black inner city population and it’s criminal. Now the Progressives have done it to the Blacks again by electing the worst thing I’ve ever seen as a powerful political leader, Obama, who I don’t consider per race, but that was one of the main “progressive” points for electing him, to prove America wasn’t racist – “racism” which they proved was a wrong idea – except for their own racism- before he was elected, by the fact that he was elected. Nice gift to Blacks, eh? Obama might not even last through another year.
Martin Brumby
Re your communication with Phil Willis, perhaps you could forward his reply to the Telegraph’s Louise Gray and ask her to compare and contrast with her report on his comments in Saturday’s edition.
It would be particularly interesting to hear why she says “stolen” emails whilst he says leaked.
Joe Romm’s freak show. Showing flooded shoreline near New Orleans is a waste of time. It is backed by wild assumptions. Doing it weekly tells us we have an anxiety disorder. Skeptics down show graphs of glaciers moving down the Hudson. Most of the anger from James Hansen comes from a flippant rejection to jump on his band wagon.
Intangible? Tell that to the victims and families at Fort Hood, Lockerbie, WTC, Pentagon, and the THOUSANDS who’ve been killed all over the world by this “abstract concept.”
While terrorism is indeed a tactic, it is identifiable and can be “touched” so to speak. I just experienced some last week in Kabul, Afghanistan.
To those of us who are dealing with it and keeping your butt safe everyday, it sure as hell ain’t “abstract”!
Only someone totally divorced from reality would utter such a statement as yours.
JohnP (04:40:47) :
REPLY: When your NCDC records are filled with junk like this:
1
2 46 25
3
4
5 53 29
6 51 26
7 51 26
8 48 28
9 48 29
10
11
12 55 24
13 54 25
14 52 26
15 56 24
16 63 32
17 59
18 31
19
20 49 39
Full of gaps in the winter months, and your summers are like this:
217 92 49
218 101 50
219 109 51
220 113 54
221 115 58
222 110 56
223 109 56
224 108 57
225 103 56
226 95 53
227 94 48
228 99 50
229 103 49
230 103 47
231 99 52
It doesn’t take a genus to see where things lead. And when that monkeybusiness starts around 1979 and continues to present, the effect is quite clear. It’s so easy, a Gore could get it.
But, if you follow along, and pay attention, you might find me skewering your theory with data to back it up. Data from the times in question that hasn’t been altered: That invention, you know, the printing press?
So, you see, JohnP, the Devil really is in the details.
It’s good to see that the environment is a separate and more important issue than global warming. It shows the public is a little more nuanced than some might think. Most can clearly see the difference between the shaky at best theory of AGW and say Asian carp in the great lakes.
I seem to recall another similar statistic about the percent of people who say that regular use of pot is good. In AGW-speak, there must be a cause and effect there. Use of pot causes concern for global warming. Or something like that.
Something interesting is missing…
Capitalism’s woes cheered at World Social Forum (AP)
Of course there is the expected circus. But not one word that I could find about climate change, global warming, and only mild mention of “environmental preservation.” All this talk of helping the world’s poor, through socialism, and yet…
Where did all the talk about how climate change was impacting the world’s poor go? What of the horrendous consequences on impoverished nations that will be wrought by global warming, of the swelling poverty and destitution that will lead to the deaths and suffering of millions, perhaps billions? It is one of the main reasons we need socialism and worldwide wealth redistribution now, to help these people survive!
Nope, not mentioned. Guess those problems got solved.
I am still concerned over the low interest in energy. We are still very vulnerable to the hamper heads fiddling with oil wells. If there ever was a job waiting to be made in a poor economy (and a president waiting for accolades), it would be reducing the costs carried by domestic owned companies to start mining for shale oil within our borders.
It’s a hockey stick, Jim (Hansen), just not as we know it (ie it’s going down).
Right, that’s it I apologise and am off to bed. Got to get my rest in order to cheer Lord Monckton on the morrow….
A poll might or might not be meaningful. . . a collective lot of noses might smell out the truth, or they might be collectively biased. But there’s enough proof to think that those polled got it right.
But just because agw is a power grabbing scam doesn’t mean we’re off the hook. I think we do need to reign in our carbon based energy as well as our excessive consumption. At some point, we are going to “mess in our nest” as we unleash more carbon than our ecosystem can process.
Anthony, don’t know if you caught this.
Dr Masters is ripping you on his wunderblog
“former TV weatherman Anthony Watts” etc
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/index.html?range=updated
Brian Johnson uk (01:49:57) :
“Does anyone know where Al Gore is hiding?”
Maybe in the same place as Osama BL