Here in the USA, WUWT readers probably don’t have a true handle on the firestorm that is going on in India over Pachauri’s “glaciergate”. It is making headlines and the people there are quite angry, because they’ve been led to believe that their Himalayan water supply was seriously threatened in the not too distant future (2035) as reported in the IPCC AR4, and now they find out it’s a bogus, and that a Pachauri peer now specifically admits the 2035 date was known to be false, and used anyway to scare policymakers into action.
Dr. Richard North, who co-wrote the first story with Christopher Booker of the Telegraph that got the inquiry started over two weeks ago, now says on an interview on Indian television that ” If Dr Pachauri does not resign voluntarily, he will be forced to do so.”
Here is video and partial transcript of that interview.
It was not until the Sunday Times last week actually highlighted it that he was forced to take action. And on that basis I don’t think he has any credible alternative but to resign and he is either going to resign voluntarily or as the media are increasingly saying he is going to be forced.
It is a very clearly recognisable tactic where he simply denies the undeniable and for a while if you are in a very elevated position you get away with it. He hasn’t yet recognised that his position is already untenable and the more he denies, the way the media works the more evidence they are going to find until such time as his denials will be so lacking in credibility that he will be unable to operate .
Transcript via Liberty New Central.
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I was a science teacher and am shamed by the seemingly obvious betrayal of scientific method in the chase for glory and wealth by some of the scientific community. I doubt very much that Pachauri will even concede that he has abandoned the scientific protocols which are common to all disciplines of science and I can see that it is very probable that the seemingly corrupt IPCC will rally to his defence in a covert manner.
The saying is:-
“POWER CORRUPTS AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY”
Never was this more true!
Your [snip] survey “What will happen to Pachauri?” reveals how this site choses to push one-sided opinions. When the only option which involves Pachauri keeping his position is listed as “He’ll stay on and the U.N. will look the other way,” it doesn’t give the voter an opportunity to vote “not guilty.”
Before you guys get too excited about your efforts to see Pachauri removed from his position as chairman of the IPCC, you should recall how he was selected for the position to begin with. Back in 2002, the Bush Administration objected to the renomination of Robert Watson, who had held the position for six years and was publicly critical of the Bush administration’s climate policies. That effort succeeded, and Pachauri got the job with Bush administration backing. What sort of person do you think the Obama administration will back as chairman of the IPCC? Don’t you think that person will push AGW stronger than Pachauri does?
Oh, I forgot to say. You should all be wishing for Pachauri to stay on. The longer he stays, the more damage done to the IPCC. The only improvement would be if he left and Al Gore took up the spot, because then we would really start to see some tall tales being told.
“E.M.Smith (04:56:59) :
So they can take their “silly” and I’ll take an actual run of GIStemp on real data showing that the anomaly DOES change… “Silly”, meet “benchmark”. And benchmark wins…”
Far too many people just don’t get it.
abbeyroad69 (22:54:03) : “There’s that “robust” word again”
Perhaps the word is simply mistyped. It should read “rob us”.
Wayne R (01:34:59) : “While I agree that Steve McIntyre and Alan Watts”
Is Alan any relation to Anthony who runs this blog?
“Herman L (05:14:10) :
Your [snip] survey “What will happen to Pachauri?” reveals how this site choses to push one-sided opinions. When the only option which involves Pachauri keeping his position is listed as “He’ll stay on and the U.N. will look the other way,” it doesn’t give the voter an opportunity to vote “not guilty.””
Not guilty for perpetuating a lie and receiving funding too? As Bender would say, “Kiss my shiny metal adz.”
Herman L (05:14:10) :
I agree. He can stay there until climate change hell freezes over.
Pay him out all the rope he needs to hang himself and the IPCC with it, which he is in the process of doing quite nicely.
I got an even better idea: Gore can jet on over there to give him a warm ‘atta boy’.
E.M.Smith (04:10:30) :
vibenna (23:54:43) : malaria spread,
Brilliant writing. Although it’s wasted on vibenna, there are thousands (tens of thousands?), of others reading it who need to read very, very carefully and think long and hard, especially if they have any doubt about whether AGW is to be believed.
They’ll just proceed on another tack.
The direction will end-up the same, with the same proclamations and the same falsehoods.
The propaganda as never about global warming, but about global control.
Some may find their IPCC “career” blighted, but they’ll be offered another “position” as reward for their “dedication”.
Andy Pitman, in his much reviled comments, said one thing which I believe is both true and also *very* significant coming from a leading AGW proponent:
“Oh, my personal view is that “climate scientists” are losing the fight with the sceptics.”
Bingo! Give the man a cee-gar.
(scare quotes are mine)
I think he should stay on so idiots like my Democratic legislatures here in Oregon will be tarred and feathered in the next election. It seems to me to be the shortest route to getting our country back. The IPCC is best left to self-destruct, not gain new leadership. Don’t know how it will play for our friends across the ponds but this scenario (leave it like it is) will bring about the fall of the Democratic party in the next election cycle and maybe for many cycles to come.
“This was a human error and we’re going to do everything possible to see that it’s not repeated.” – Pachauri
Oops, too late.
There are so many other errors in the IPCC reports that Pachauri should be ashamed of himself. All he needs to do is visit WUWT or Climate Audit on any particular day or read the NIPCC report: http://pathstoknowledge.net/2009/06/03/nongovernmental-international-panel-on-climate-change-nipcc-2009-report.
BTW The Nature climate blog
http://blogs.nature.com/climatefeedback/
is much much more restrictive than RC who now look like angels compared to NATURE. Ive tried posting quite a few statements with absolute 0 reply. Note there are 0 comments on most of there threads so it seems they don’t take ANY criticism/ or ALL the comments are negative (ie defending the IPCC position)… Maybe its time to start writing to their bosses on top ie Editor in Chief, funding bodies etc to get these guys removed/modify behavious Olive Hefernan and Quintin etc…, before they ruin the Journal completely.
A new IPCC chairman is purely academic.
The IPCC was not set up with an open mind to find out whether AGW existed, never mind whether it was/might be problem – it was set up to PROVE it and to justify government action (ie taxes).
The IPCC will always find in favour of MMCC/AGW/(whatever the latest name is) because turkeys do not vote for Christmas.
An end to the climate scam = a life on welfare for the proponents. ENRON is gone, who wants to employ a data fiddler or a failed scientist?
Herman L (05:14:10) :
That effort succeeded, and Pachauri got the job with Bush administration backing. What sort of person do you think the Obama administration will back as chairman of the IPCC? Don’t you think that person will push AGW stronger than Pachauri does?
The chairman of the IPCC shouldn’t be pushing anything. The IPCC shouldn’t even exist. It’s built on the false premise of AGW.
Somewhat OT except about the environmental movement.
What was promised by the Atoms for Peace process of U.S. Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy—access to the virtually unlimited power potential of nuclear energy, to escape from the colonial legacy of backwardness and poverty—was abruptly sabotaged in the 1970s. This was done under the cover of the anti-nuclear hysteria fostered by Prince Philip’s environmentalist movement, and the fraudulent argument that non-proliferation of nuclear weapons required a halt to peaceful uses of nuclear power. Now, the nations of Asia have definitively rejected British imperial dictates, asserting their long-term development to be centered, necessarily, upon expanded nuclear power capacities.
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2010/01/east-goes-nuclearwhile-west-heads-for.html
Yes! I have changed my mind! Put Al Gore in that spot! He can see the glaciers from his house!
Some warmists are trying to deflect criticism by citing the fact GW Bush chose Pachauri (meaning he is our man).
Well, yes he did (thinking thinking thinking) (eureka)
Oh man, doesn’t that make Dubya a very astute prescient skeptic. He knew this man Pacha was crooked and would eventually bring the IPCC down with his hannanigins 🙂
WUWT and McIntyre are fantastic. Their discussions laid the groundwork for Climate gate which transpired just 60 days ago. It would have been more of a non event had their not been a stage set. 60 days is a short time considering it included several Holidays.
Firings and court cases do not usually commence very quickly.
The 2 context problems I see is the IPCC chair at the U.N. is pursued by a corrupt person for personal gain. Some other wacko ec0 terrorist carbon con Mann is elbowing his way to get the job and make a killing.
The IPCC was fed cooked data from the CRU so they got what they desired just like the glacier gate was a story written to please the con Mann department.
Sock puppets like Joe Romm are talking up the ocean level issues because that is what the carbon con-Mann market is buying today.
60+ days and a lot is changing. Talk about a storm.
Pamela Gray (05:52:52) :
When you’re done with those feathers, send some to Sacramento. Don’t bother with the tar, though, as they seem to be quite stuck in plenty of it already.
“While I agree that Steve McIntyre and Alan Watts”
Is Alan any relation to Anthony who runs this blog?
Alan was the dude who hung out with D.T. Suzuki.
Did you mean rising ocean? He can run his 70 foot houseboat on salt water without leaving the marina.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hits-the-waves-with-a-massive-new-houseboat/
good pictures
Algore is over weight to ride a Jet ski. Turn it into a submarine.
I seem to recall the smirk on Bush’s face as he made a half-hearted gesture towards Global Warming as McCain was campaigning.
Once the whole AGW theory is poked full of holes will Al Gore have to go back to making money with Occidental Petroleum? I think they should reclaim his Nobel prize and make him pay back the money as well as taking back the Oscar he got. I can’t believe how quickly this is all unraveling. It will be extraordinarily nice to see some coverage in the MSM. I can’t believe they will sit on the sidelines much longer, this is much to big of a story. The only downside for MSM is that they will have to put their collective tails between their legs after trumpeting the “Warmest Year on Record!” year after year…