Reprinted from totallytopten.com
The solution to climate change lies not in the hands of politicians, but some seriously nutty scientists.
For the uninitiated, Geo-engineering is easiest explained as the plan B in the fight against climate change, in case our politicians and world leaders fail. And as the Kyoto agreement is due 2012, with both Bali and Copenhagen settled disappointments, it is perhaps time for drastic action.
Scientists all over the world are already on it.
10. Ocean Iron Fertilization
“Give me half a tanker of iron, and I’ll give you an ice age” ~John Martin, discoverer of the Ocean Iron Fertilization Idea.
Introduce iron into the ocean’s upper layer and increase the amount of phytoplankton (plant plankton) in the ocean. This in turn will increase the amount of food for ocean life, strengthen the ecosystem and most importantly, take in CO2 and release
oxygen. The problem however, is not just the process but the scale on which it has to be done to make an impact.
9. Cloud Reflectivity Enhancement
Making clouds whiter. How? Apparently the “viable plan” by Stephen Salter of the University of Edinburgh is to have 1500 special ships known as Flettner ships to spray ocean water into the atmosphere. The ocean spray would work within a concept known as the Twomey Effect. The biggest problem is the lack on ocean nuclei needed due to pollution.
Problem: 1500 honkin’ ships shooting water into the air.
8. Scatterers – Stratospheric Sulfate Aerosols
Release microparticles into the atmosphere at the rate of 1 million metric tons a year through the use of jumbo jets and military artillery. The idea is to reflect some of the sunlight entering our atmosphere, thus reducing warming effects and helping us keep nice and cool. Read more at Wikipedia.
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Here’s what happens when you try to engineer nature:
“A well-intentioned attempt in 1972 to create what was touted as the world’s largest artificial reef made of tires has become an ecological disaster. The idea was simple: Create new marine habitat and alternate dive sites to relieve pressure on natural reefs, while disposing of tires that were clogging landfills.
Decades later it’s clear the plan failed miserably.
Little sea life has formed on the tires. Some of the bundles bound together with nylon and steel have broken loose and are scouring the ocean floor across a swath the size of 31 football fields. Tires are washing up on beaches. Thousands have wedged up against the nearby natural reef some 70 feet below the sea surface, blocking coral growth and devastating marine life. Similar problems have been reported at tire reefs worldwide. ”
http://www.coral.org/node/389
Population reductions promoted over the last century have tended to be suggesting a reduction to 500 million worldwide. I’m not sure where the number came from but one could find it around during the 1980s in the new age movement arena. I guess back then that we’d all be dead before 2000 because the Earth couldn’t support 5 billion people so everyone would starve to death and we only had 10 years to fix the problem.
In that vein, eliminating less than 1% of the population – the envirowhacko nitwitts and their political hacks and socialist promoting ecoprofiteers – would be all that is necessary to totally eliminate our present ‘crisis’. It should also include any other nitwitts who think that nature really needs assistance eliminating actual overpopulations and useless or defective species. As such, it should be obvious nature needs no help in either determining overpopulation or even who should be elliminated. Let nature take its course and it’ll be these darwin award candidates that will be the first to prove they cannot survive. It’s their murder-suicide pact they want to enforce on everyone where there’s actually a real serious problem.
Al Gore’s Holy Hologram (11:31:22) :
Here we are a full month into one very icy Northern Winter, and Piers Corbyn say don’t look for any change until the end of February. He says it’s no Cold Snap. Old Man Winter has his pockets stuffed with goodies to make Global Warming beg for mercy. So, let the news reporters get the word out, prepare for one long siege of brutal cold.
The Met Office needs to put a sock in it. This is already way beyond a Cold Snap. It’s rapidly turning into the Winter from Hell.
Most of this thread is about something we have discussed as each subject has come up.
Do we really need a whole thread about the stupid ideas propeller heads come up with when they are intellectually mastabating?
Can’t we leave such things as orbiting sun umbrellas to the tabloid science outlets such as Nature and Science Magazine?
That poor guy at the Met can’t figure out what’s wrong.
Like they say, “Look out the window.”
the past 7 days in the US
a.k.a., The 7 Days Before Tomorrow
http://mapcenter.hamweather.com/records/7day/us.html?c=maxtemp,mintemp,lowmax,highmin,snow
The poor guy at the Met can’t figure out what’s going on because everything he’s working with has been fouled up beyond all recognition.
At this point, he’s looking out the window and shaking his head.
“This does not compute”.
Yeah. Throw the computerized ballast overboard, and use the power to heat the place. You’ll be glad you did.
Change the venue. Open the doors to the freezing homeless, do something worthwhile for a change. Find the data that CRU lost, repair the record.
Then tell everyone why we are getting a 19th Century Winter.
I must confess that the title to this thread still causes me some concern.
“ingineering”?
Not a subtle play on the word “ingenuity” is it?
Too subtle for me.
Some years ago Murray Leinster wrote a short story titled “Solar Constant,” now available free online as chapter 13 of “Planets of Adventure” at the Baen.com free library. In the story, Senior Colonial Survey officer Bordman finds himself trapped on a planet with a rapidly dimming sun because their solar power grid is not receiving enough energy to launch his ship. He has to do something quick before the CO2 starts to snow out of the cold atmosphere.
I believe this was written when the fear was global cooling.
Aha! The situation is saved. There is now an investigation into the problem of McFarts (or McBurps, whatever).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/farming/6961670/McDonalds-launches-study-into-flatulent-cows-used-in-its-burgers.html
Stephen Brown (12:45:23) :
Not a subtle play on the word “ingenuity” is it?
Too subtle for me.
ingineering= imaginations in engineering gone off the deep end of sanity.
Goes back to Tax & Spill: Pay enough money and you can remove all the restricions on clean air, so as to pump as much S02 into the atmosphere as possible and cool the imaginary overheated Earth.
@Smokey
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Thank you Smokey. I will give you first option for shares in my new venture?
I’ve been having a little fun over on Joseph Romm’s web site and, it appears, managed (quite easily actually) to get the better of him. Guess what? He removed the post! Is this as petulant as he gets?
No problemo! McKinsey & Co. will happily (for a fee) supply a second Sorcerer’s Apprentice to counteract the first one, and a third to counteract the second, ad infinitum.
The experts have moved to the offshore Oregon coast. But they ain’t talking.
“klausb (11:26:17) :
From 1978/79 – a movie (german language)
“Minutes of a Disaster”
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-5616993840761940811#”
Thanks, i was 13 at the time and probably had a jolly good time in Braunschweig without noticing all of this. A very impressive documentation.
Tucci (09:23:40)
“Dissolved iron fosters microbial growth.”
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“Many of those species are photosynthetic.”
Are you referring to microbes / bacteria specifically, or to eukaryotic phytoplankton? – the two are as different phytoplankton and giraffes. The bacteria / microbes comprise one component of the planktonic but cannot thrive without other plankton to provide organic material that they subsist on. The bacteria are in turn grazed down by heterotrophic microflaggelates (this is easy to demonstrate by putting a rice grain in a bottle of seawater and keeping it in the dark). (Marine viruses also keep bacterial numbers in check.)
Stimulating only microbial growth would do little if anything to induce a planktonic bloom in oceanic water. The photosynthesis by cyanobacteria is only a very small fraction of primary production most of which is eukaryotic.
Spector (05:51:34)
Removal of 95% of CO2 from air would cause a mass extinction, probably of most multicellular life (that includes humans).
Gail Combs (11:03:11) : (and others)
So that is where the information came from. We will have to see if it turns out to be true.
Some of you could do with a minimum of 10 mins away from the net each day.
I’m fairly sure that anything you hear from the MO for a while will have gone through a full senior staff meeting first. It certainly won’t come from “Tony” in the comments section of the daily mail.
The idea that the Met Office would use the highest temperatures to as an indicator is preposterous on its face. Some warmist must have posted it as a prank, to see how many of us were credulous enough to believe it.
Roger Knights. It was a prank. I read that original post and it was clear he was making it up as he didn’t know the parameters that the Met Office use (which even I know). It’s annoying as he has managed to fool VERY many people and wound them up. I’ve been doing my best to shoot it down.
RE: phlogiston (14:19:52):
“Spector (05:51:34): Removal of 95% of CO2 from air would cause a mass extinction, probably of most multicellular life (that includes humans).”
Then we wouldn’t have to worry about the ice-age. I do think CO2 has been made the ‘black beast’ of climate change on rather flimsy technical evidence. Perhaps this could be a case of ‘be careful of what you wish for.’
@DirkH (14:07:16) :
Dirk, I was in Flensburg in ’78/79. Wasn’t funny.
Two years later, winter of 80/81, it was even more snow.
But then, we were somehow prepared.
“klausb (15:56:10) :
@DirkH (14:07:16) :
Dirk, I was in Flensburg in ‘78/79. Wasn’t funny.
Two years later, winter of 80/81, it was even more snow.
But then, we were somehow prepared.”
This winter will not be that hard. The solar minimum is still young.