Steve McIntyre writes on Climate Audit:
Fox News is running a one-hour special on climate tonight at 9 p.m. [6PM PST]
(which is being re-aired on Wednesday, I think.)
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that I was interviewed in Toronto by Fox News when they were in Toronto for the Munk Debates (Dec 1) – Nigel Lawson and Bjorn Lomborg v George Monbiot and Elizabeth May (Green Party of Canada leader). It’s my understanding that they will be using some of this footage in one of the segments of the program tonight.
They were extremely well prepared for the interview to say the least, even being acquainted with as small a nuance of the debate as the Starbucks Hypothesis. I suspect that I’m going to look pretty weary in the interview – I was in the process of going through the Climategate Letters, which are discourging even for third party readers.
I think that the producers are trying to make the show more nuanced than the usual effort in this field (on either side). Not an easy task.
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For those who don’t know what the “Starbucks Hypothesis” is:
“Can a scientist have a cup of Starbucks coffee in the morning, head to the mountains and do tree ring sampling, and be back home in time for dinner”?
It was created in response to some scientists excuses that they don’t have the time or resources to update tree ring records or to take additional samples of some Colorado and California trees. The premise of the hypothesis being that such USA sampling expeditions are easily within driving distance of civilization in USA today, represented by Starbucks.
Steve demonstrates the proof of the Starbucks hypothesis here where he does his own sampling expedition, coffee in hand.
It appears some scientists are just barn sour.
starts off with UN reps and their condescending attitudes….
finally, Medieval Warm Period in the media!
Mann looked pretty bad in not agreeing to an interview
The MSM is generally the last ones to figure it out when it comes to what’s up with the climate. Oh well.
They were still hawking a new ice age when the Dust Bowl was going on.
All the people I work with (and that’s about a dozen) except one look to Fox for information. And since Obama’s professor Gate’s fiasco, that lone outlier is coming around too, since he worked as a cop for 5 years.
Don’t worry that Fox is otracized by the lefties–they’ve drunken so much Kool Aid about AGW that it would take a lobotomy for them to ever come around, and after such an operation of what use are they?
Fox is the leader in news (right or left, it matters not); indeed, the other news outlets have been dragged kicking and screaming into areas their CEO’s would rather they not cover at all. Most are finally recognizing the fact that they fill only a minor role in the news business. Many are laying off people right and left because the Internet has educated enough people that they’re no longer buying their lies and, consequently, they’re no longer buying their newspapers. And since advertisers are staying away too, there’s less and less money with which to spread their lies (or ignore the truth).
Mann, Jones, Wigley, et al, and EAU, are looking pretty bad.
LOL Mann runs around and goes on CNN, writes articles for the Washington Post but ducks Fox and the rest of the team follows. The people watching see Ross, Steve and Pat Michaels not ducking the interview and the Team hiding and to alot of people that tells them that the Team has something to hide.
Interesting, I’m watching it now and so far it has been interesting. One subtle but amusing point I’m noticing is that the host is standing outside in the dark with a heavy coat and gloves on while doing the setup for the interviews. He isn’t standing out in the blazing sun sweating while setting up the pieces.
Monbiot just lied about Arctic (North Pole) ice
i like it that Monbiot makes himself look like a alarmist radical
he’s his own worst enemy, eh?
So how is that whole world government thing going for them, I wonder.
Monbiot lied? How could you tell? Was it that his mouth was open?!
photon without a Higgs (17:51:38) :
“Is Steve M wearing black socks with shorts?”
Here’s a really OT but humorous site, devoted to photos of incongruous sock-and-sandal combos:
http://www.sandalandsoxer.co.uk/home.htm
If you google socks with sandals you’ll find dozens (!) more sites devoted to documenting this fashion faux pas.
Glaciers are melting? These people are either deceiving us or naive, and how could they be naive if they are experts?
Glaciers have been melting since the 1800’s!
http://www.nofreewind.com/2009/12/glaciers-are-melting.html
In 1975 they were worried about global cooling, so how could the glaciers melting then be due to warming. (likely some of it is due to increased sunlight in the past century.)
http://www.nofreewind.com/2009/12/cooling-world.html
This entire movement is completely nuts, and they have so many people thinking that we can just do w/o fossil. It’s 16F outside right now, but I am warm inside because of oil. I drove my typical 50 miles today, all oil. This is all so crazy and sad.
I agree most of the team ducking out of being interviewed for this doesn’t make them look better.
wish they would have had Lindzen, Christy, Spencer, and Svensmark on the show.
But it’s a good start!
the UN reps and the Hockey stick are out in the sun and they looked bad in that light!
Gotta say, this piece on fox is pretty fantastic, nice to see the MSM getting onn it!
Electric cars are a “niche” industry. Most of us would not find it practical to have an electric car as our only car and most of us would not afford an electric car as our 2nd car, unless the Gov’t just handed us most of the price. Here are 30 cars. Fine for short trips, and I believe they are much cheaper to drive, but how do those batteries hold up in winter, how long do the batteries last? We will be paying the interest on the federal tax credits for the cars forever.
http://green.venturebeat.com/2008/01/10/27-electric-cars-companies-ready-to-take-over-the-road/
Darn it all. The only FOX channel we get here in southern Alberta is KAYU in Spokane and they definitely did not show it at 6 PST or 7 PST .. 7 and 8 MST.
Will look later this evening. If you know where I could watch this on streaming video, I’d appreciate it. Thank you. Clive
McIntyre said that he believed in global warming. Perhaps he can explain, with a graph, what time period he has chosen. Monckton claims that he can show warming or cooling from the same data using statistics.
I thought that the Fox show was weak. Why wasn’t Monbiot challenged or at least read his own words on the CRU issue when he suggested that Jones resign as you can read here http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2009/11/monbiot-phil-jones-should-resign.html
FadingFast (12:29:34) :
From the therapeutic portion of the barn sour reference: “Carrying a short crop or bat, the rider may elect to give a quick tap in order to get the horse’s attention focused back on him.”
I might object to batting a cantankerous horse, but it sounds like appropriate therapy for some climate scientists, especially those wanting to take a poke at Pat Michaels.
In Horse terms a Bat is a short whip with a wide loop of leather on the end so it makes a loud popping sound. I would prefer the baseball type of bat when dealing with certain climate scientists. Much more effect in getting their attention sort of like a mule and a two by four.
Bats pictured here: http://www.doversaddlery.com/category.asp?c=125&bhcd2=1261364906
Very pleased, thanks to Fox News, wow. Maybe next week they will go into the investment corruption. Steve came across as so sane and unbiased, just excellent.
Hey, I wore socks of all colors with sandals in New Zealand and was accused of being a German. Beats being an American there. Rife with conspiracy theories of all kinds.
Nice job by Steve on the Fox presentation. Nice job by Fox, too. It was hard to tell what Baier’s position is, and that’s a good thing in my book.
It could have been better in a detail here and there, but overall it was well done.
Just posted this on Climate Audit. Posting here as well:
Just watched the Fox piece. Steve you did a great job! The interview format is certainly easier than the “live, you get two soundbites” format.
Overall, the piece was well done, with a few minor bits inaccurate. Quite interesting that Mann, Jones, and no others involved wanted to be included. It did cover the skeptic side well, but wasn’t overly biased.
For the record, I read MSNBC and Foxnews and try to figure out what’s really happening. Yes, Fox does have some far right leaning shows, but this was well done.
I’m still a bit shocked that it took a MONTH for any MSM outlet to run a full length story on this topic. But yes, it finally happened. A month ago when Climategate broke, I told my wife, “This is big!”. I don’t think she really believed me until tonight.
TomT (18:51:44) :
“I agree most of the team ducking out of being interviewed for this doesn’t make them look better.”
And by not being interviewed they don’t look worse.
Greg (19:15:41) :
“Nice job by Steve on the Fox presentation. Nice job by Fox, too. It was hard to tell what Baier’s position is, and that’s a good thing in my book.”
Good journalism. Quite a difference from the thick syrup of poorly staged opinionated claptrap put on by the CNN special that also ran tonight.