Andy Revkin to leave Dot Earth and NYT

His last day will be December 21st, 2009. Dot Earth can be viewed here.

I can’t say I’m surprised. About a month ago, I had an email exchange with Andy on this subject, where he shared with me that he might leave.

While I often disagree with Andy’s postings, I will say that he has been extraordinarily civil to me and also to Steve McIntyre, compared to some others in the same business of writing about climate (you know who you are). He has never not responded to an email I’ve sent him.

He’s been a worthy opponent, let’s hope that whomever replaces him (if there is a replacement, NYT is doing major staffing cutbacks and employee buyouts) has the same or higher standards of conduct.

He cites frustration with journalism and also personal fatigue after routinely working virtually 24/7 in recent years. This I can understand. Keeping WUWT running these days demands similar efforts.

Yale Climate and Media Forum has more details.

On behalf of WUWT and it’s community, please join me in wishing Mr. Revkin good health and success in his next venture. – Anthony Watts

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Note to commenters: I’m only saying this so that none of you do.

“In a way, this is cheering news” or variants of that CRU message will not be tolerated in comments.

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Immolate

Remaining civil in the course of heated debate is difficult. Good luck Andy.

geronimo

I have no reason to dislike Andy Revkin, nor to suggest that his motives are other than those he’s told us about, but the elephant in the room is the CRU e-mails that gave the impression that the hockey team thought they had him in their pocket. That can’t be good for a journalists ego.
Good luck for the future Andy.

inversesquare

‘heh’ 🙂

EJ

Well good luck to Mr. Revkin. I can only hope that all of this has made an impact on his preconceptions and that he will become more skeptical of his sources.

Tim

It might be interesting (and provocative) to have Andy write an occasional post for WUWT! 😉

Ray

Let’s hope he takes his time off to put down all the juicy details of his life as a talking head for the Warmers in his new book deal and conferences (which I’m sure he will get).

tokyoboy

Attn.: Any knowlegeable person on this blog:
Could you please tell me the following figures?
(1) Total number of researchers that appear in the disclosed CRU mails, and
(2) Of which, the number of people who were authors of IPCC Assessment Reports.
I need these figures to convey a picture of the CRU affair to the general public as exactly as possible. Thanks in advance.
REPLY: see Warwick Hughes blog, link at right sidebar, he has a breakdown and map – Anthony

Eruonen

The linked article indicates that he will probably continue DOT Earth, so he may not be actually disappearing from the pages.
“He is expected to continue working on his popular Dotearth blog through The Times, though details are still being arranged.”
If this is true, not sure what will actually change.

Mark

Good luck Andy.

Good luck, Andy. I’m sure the AP’s Seth Borenstein is eyeing your job…
Cheers

I think it’s a testimony to Andy’s impartiality that he generally managed to get both sides upset with him!

old construction worker

Tim (15:49:31) :
It might be interesting (and provocative) to have Andy write an occasional post for WUWT! ;-)’
I’ll second that motion.

steven mosher

Good Luck to Andy. He’s been a decent honorable human being in all my interactions with him.

Michael

It’s going to take more than that to turn that NYT fish wrap around.

Jeffrey

Civil debate with the issue can only go further to better understanding. I have had to pleasure to disagree with Mr. Revkin and look forward to debating with his replacement.
jpl

Henry chance

I am not going to take a shot at him. I won’t even respond in a personal way.
When companies are bleeding as is the Times with a 30% drop in ad revenue, costs get cut and we see people bail.
I can’t imagine the NYT hasn’t pinched money. Everything from playing games on reimbursement of expenses to firings. People get an offer and the split. Even nasty companies are a better place to work when they operate in the black then when they are deep in the red.

Dot Earth’s ‘About’ begins:
“By 2050 or so, the world population is expected to reach nine billion, essentially adding two Chinas to the number of people alive today. Those billions will be seeking food, water and other resources on a planet where, scientists say, humans are already shaping climate and the web of life.”
Take out the word ‘climate’ and we still have an important issue, and a worthy basis for a discussion. If indeed Mr Revkin has been swept up by – and now washed up by – the climate alarmism overwhelming the environment movement, then I have full sympathy. The 400 year history of modern science has given us some basis for trust – now this trust has been abused and many folks with open minds must now be feeling that they have been conned. It is a credit to Anthony to deal with this news as he has.
If we have reason to trust science, then we cant say the same for the MSM. Here is Lord Monckton, a little belligerent perhaps, with a willing participant in a socratic dialogue highlighting the success of the other great partners in this con, the press:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvufOvneJMk&hl=en_GB&fs=1&]

Nick

I wish Andy all the best for the future.
I also very much hope that, in this time of great turmoil, he can seek some comfort in his music.
http://web.mac.com/sinfonia1/Clamour_Of_The_Times/Clamour_Of_The_Times/Entries/2009/11/17_The_Lives_of_Others%3A_Andy_Revkin.html
Although we would apparently be on different sides of the fence, so to speak, I can understand the stress I think he feels. This should never have become a fight, but rather a rational scientific discussion.
It is sad to say that, on climate, we seem to have given birth to a Siamese twin, in which science and politics are horribly conjoined. I pray that the two may be successfully separated and that both individuals may survive and lead healthy, independent lives.

Claude Harvey

I’m sorry, but a polite purveyor of AGW propaganda who defers to “the gang of twelve” instead of seriously looking into the subject using his own reasoning capacity is not cause for congratulations or celebration of anything but his leaving. Read the CRU exchanges and tell me he wasn’t in their pockets.
The NYT with this fellow at the environmental helm has done more than its share to propagate the “junk science” we all bemoan and he’ll get no “hail, good fellow” salute from me. Magnanimity to the point of hypocrisy rings false. Try and remember that we would not be in this mess had professionals of all stripes not chosen professional civility over rudeness when the absurd foundations of AGW were originally laid down.
CH

rb Wright

The column noting that the earth had not warmed for ten years was timely and observant, but not what “the team” and the old gray lady wanted. Hope you find a place to practice your writing skills. There is a need for writers who can hug the middle of the discussion, and avoid the shouting at the extremes. Go for it.

Paddy

I choose to believe that Mr Revkin is a man with a conscience, and that he reached a point beyond which he can tolerate. I hope that he will cease being a shill for AGWers.

starzmom

Never mind Andy Revkin. I am very grateful for your efforts, Anthony, and wish I was knowledgeable enough to help you. What you are doing has been invaluable!!

manfredkintop

Best wishes and good luck Mr. Revkin.

Henry chance

http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/revkin_taking_nyt_buyout.php
Was offered a buyout?
Maybe he can squeeze in a story of defeat of the alarmists at Copenhagen before he takes his shoebox of stuff out on the weekend.

Greg Cavanagh

Tim (15:49:31) :
I’ll agree also. It would be very interesting to get a well considered post from him, as told by a journalist retelling the unfolding history as he saw it, (i.e.: from a journalists point of view).

Chris H

Good luck to Andy. Interesting to see how he will be replaced. A new chapter in the media coverage of climate science and climate change is about to begin.

Harold Ambler

Mr. Revkin used the words “unauthorized” in two separate blog posts during the last ten days to describe the release of Climategate e-mails and other documents.
I sent him two e-mails asking whether he had knowledge that the document release was an inside job rather than an incidence of hacking. These were the first two e-mails from me that Mr. Revkin did not return.
He is busy, in the extreme, with Copenhagen, Climategate, and his career change, and that is likely the sole reason for not getting back to me.
Nonetheless, the mere fact that he switched from reporting that the e-mails had been hacked to describing them as an “unauthorized release” strikes me as being of note.

Another Mike D

I may have disagreed with some of his conclusions, but was maintained a civil tone and seemed willing to discuss items with those who disagrees with him. The civil discourse will be lessened in his absence. Best of luck in your new endeavours, Andy.

Mapou

ahahaha… Things are looking up for Mr. Revkin. I hear former vice president and acclaimed Nobel laureate, Al Gore, the inventor of the internet, needs a personal journalist.

Another Mike D

egad. “but he was one who maintained…”, and “those who disagreed with him…”.
I hope things go better for him than they did for my quick proofread!

Dennis Wingo

REPLY: see Warwick Hughes blog, link at right sidebar, he has a breakdown and map – Anthony
Anthony
Has anyone taken these names and cross correlated them to the spagetti graph that is in the Wegman report where he showed the dangerous interrelationships that his team thought compromised the peer review process?

PaulH

Coincidentally, Toronto-based AGW hawk John Moore announced today that he is giving up:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/12/14/john-moore-why-i-don-t-care-about-global-warming.aspx
From reading his somewhat bitter commentary, it seems that Moore’s reasons are rather different from Revkin’s.

Steve Fitzpatrick

No surprise here. Mr. Revkin was described as unreliable (AKA willing to actually listen to what the other side says) in one of the emails.
I wish him clear thinking and good luck.

Syl

I’ve been following dotearth for a couple of years now. And I’ve defended Andy Revkin on many occasions and there is nothing in the CRU emails that has changed my mind. He allows dissenting views equal time in comments which is a rarity in a venue that warmists think they own. He receives much flak for this.
Andy has a huge roll-o-dex and, yes, it’s filled with ‘consensus scientists’ but it also lists many dissenting voices whom he contacts for input. I think Andy reflected the cw of the past decade or so about the consensus but he never indicated he believed that the science itself was totally settled. He often pointed out uncertainties which everyone simply ignored.
I think as anyone with integrity who has been so deeply involved in this issue, Andy has been a bit shaken by the last few weeks.
He, long before anyone else started discussing the possibility, got flack for even bringing up the possibility that the temperature data might be compromised (I believe this was in a question he had posed to a scientist).
He read the analysis of why it’s more probable the emails/data were leaked rather than hacked and did not dismiss it. If I’m remembering correctly (I didn’t save it) I saw a phrase in a piece he did where he spoke of ‘unauthorized release’ instead of ‘hacked’ or ‘stolen’. When I went back to it a day or two later the phrase was no longer there. Editors, can’t live with them, can’t live without them.
Anyway, I’m sorry he’s leaving. And, damn, I wish him well.

John M

I kind of felt sorry for Revkin, especially recently. I remember about a year ago, some of his regulars thought it was cute to brag about “denier censoring software” or some such, and would post at the end of their comment that they were “protected” by it. Sort of like the little kid with the fingers in the ears screaming “I’m not listening”.
But more recently, the true believers started to get belligerent with him because he was “too tolerant” of opposing views. Some even threatened to stop reading his blog if he didn’t start banning the skeptics.
These are the same ones who are now shocked and distressed that Kookinhagen is going down the drain. How could that happen!?!?
You know, the “I can’t understand how Nixon won, everyone I know voted for McGovern” crowd.

Peter

Unless I’m mistaken, he never commented on the ‘cutoff’ email from Schlesinger. That is very disappointing. Could it have played a role in this decision, now ?

Revkin got an unwitting vote of integrity from Michael Mann in the emails:
p.s. be a bit careful about what information you send to Andy and what emails you copy him in on. He’s not as predictable as we’d like

slow to follow

Claude Harvey (16:13:17)
Seconded – IMO the press have singularly failed the public on this issue.

chainpin

OT:
What does Al Gore know about the polar ice caps?
Not too much according to the scientist he references in his talking notes:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6956783.ece

JohnWho

Quote: “He’s been a worthy opponent, let’s hope that whomever replaces him (if there is a replacement, NYT is doing major staffing cutbacks and employee buyouts) has the same or higher standards of conduct.”
The NYT can ill afford to lose anyone with a high standard of conduct since they have so few.
Just an observation.

Bernie

Given the polarization around this issue, Andy Revkin has done a pretty good job allowing all perspectives an opportunity to present their cases on his blog. Andy is no Joe Romm. Andy is a gentleman.

Paul Penrose

While I have not agreed with much of what Andy has written over the years, I personally wish him happiness and success in the future.

INGSOC

Unfortunate. I found Mr. Revkin’s columns to be the only ones from the warmist side that didn’t make me vomit. (Though, like Anthony I mostly disagree with his positions) His style was indeed professional. I am certain will will be seeing more from him however, as he is too talented to be cut completely loose. NY Times’s loss really.
Good luck Mr. Revkin.

George Crews

IMHO, Andy is a very good and honest journalist. I wish him continued success.
George Crews

George E. Smith

Well I’m also of mixed feelings on Andy’s leaving. Like Anthony’s experience, Andy Revkin has always been civil with me. Back when Marc Morano, was working in Senatore Inhofe’s Office, and rounded up the “gang of 400” including me; which later became over 700, Andy held a discussion on his blog to let the “two sides” have at it. That was my first meetings with some popular noms de plume; some of which I came to revere like a hangnail or upcoming root canal.
Well I couldn’t work for an outfit, that had an agenda that wasn’t bringing the truth to their readership, so I’m not surprised that Andy isn’t going to continue there; for whatever reason.
I can only hope that once off the deck of that sinking ship, Andy will get some common sense. I’m not going to denigrate his position on global population. That may be a world problem, and it certainly interacts with human influence on the planet; but Andy; it is an entirely separate issue from man’s emanations particularly CO2 affecting the climate in any serious fashion.
Mass human starvation is a more serious problem than whether Communist Red Chinese container ships, can fit under the cranes, at the Oakland Docks, 40 years from now, due to sea level rise in San Francisco Bay. Hey Mr Chinese shipping magnate; here’s an idea for you; free of charge.
Build your future ships like submarines are built so you can flood them and sink them at the docks to fit under the cranes. Should be a piece of cake for some enterprising new naval architect.

debreuil

OT Why the lineups in Copenhagen? Weird.
“What was behind the monumental screw-up? A staggering inability to do maths. The conference centre has a maximum capacity of 15,000, yet NGOs alone were allowed to register 20,000 delegates. That’s not counting the 5000 members of the media, nor the 7000 staffers who are running the place, totalling 32,000 before you even get to the people who are meant to be doing the real work here: the negotiators. ”
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/12/copenhagen-diaries—a-stagger.html

MikeinAppalachia

Al had a 30 year span during which none of his deliberate and otherwise lies were ever checked by his adoring press. And when such were exposed, the disclosure was buried in Friday’s afternoon edition near the end. He got used to that as well as always appearing on talk shows with abetting hosts or with hosts who were not familiar enough with the facts to correct his lies when he uttered them; to wit, last week stating that all of the climategate emails were “over 10 years old”.

pat

off topic, but this is such a wonderful, comedic look at hopenhagen, i’ll dedicate it to revkin, as an example of terrific writing on the subject:
UK Times: AA Gill: The great green land grab
Amid the oil barons, islanders and idealists in bad shoes, the eco-lobby has annexed not just the climate conference, but the worldhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/copenhagen/article6954391.ece

rbateman

I can agree to disagree.
Too bad the rest of the ‘settled’ ones cannot.
Good luck, Andy.

paullm

I would be interested in Alan Carlin’s comment about Revkin.
What does Revkin’s leaving mean about the impact Climategate has had on the gray rag itself. Is the NYT punting, to a large degree? I guess Revkin’s replacement (if any) will afford a hint. Hey, how about a “skeptic”?! Maybe a little too text bookish “journalistic” to hope for?
I forgot. Who was Revkin’s tag-team partner? Maybe he’d like to be the next Alarmist writer to try his hand?
I’ll bet he put those hours in…he’d have to to keep justifying such unfounded “Belief’s”. It would have taken a lot less effort to simply be a proper “journalist” and check the wild claims of the Alarmists. And, Anthony, and others, would have gotten much more rest, also!
No doubt Revkin’s writing a book on his valiant efforts to save the world. Hurry up, before we burn up!