American Morning is aired live every weekday morning from 6 to 9 am EST on CNN.
At 7:30 AM EST Friday 12/11 Steve McIntyre will appear at the invitation of John Roberts. Be sure to watch.
American Morning is aired live every weekday morning from 6 to 9 am EST on CNN.
At 7:30 AM EST Friday 12/11 Steve McIntyre will appear at the invitation of John Roberts. Be sure to watch.
Paul (08:30:02) :
Steve did just fine. He is very effective at saying only what he knows and not making assertions that he cannot back up. This is who he is. I think people are tired of the “talking points” and “slick presentation” — this is what has gotten us into this mess.
This comment holds more truth than is first apparent. I have not done any analysis of comments from a wide variety of people, I have simply spoken with many different people about AGW, the Government here in the UK, the EU and other contentious topics.
Without exception everyone I have spoken with has said, some politely, others in much earthier terms, that they are sick and tired of being given nonsensical sound-bites by the MSM, politicians and so-called ‘experts’. They all wanted to watch and hear a reasoned debate, admittedly not of too great a duration, so that they could start to make up their own minds. I think that the presumption by the MSM that the general public want nothing but sound-bites of a curtailed length to match their allegedly limited attention span is starting to become somewhat tattered.
Very many people have had enough of being patronised and spoken down to. They have realised that there are some serious things going on ‘out there’ and they want to be involved. This all comes down to the fact that the mythical Joe Public has woken up to the fact that the trilions of pounds and dollars being shuffled around on various negotiating tables like so many poker chips are going to come out of HIS pocket. This is what has focused his attention, not any alleged doom and gloom fantasies.
Let’s face it. McIntyre is human, and he enjoys the attention and recognition. Like anyone would.
He is, as a careful scientist, genuinely offended by some the actions taken by the Hockey Team.
He is also, as a political liberal, somewhere between agnostic and sympathetic to the policy implications of AGW.
It’s not helpful that the media wants to portray this Climategate thing as “AGW: Fact? or Hoax?” Because, frankly, it’s neither.
Steve M. is the quintessential Canadian and his approach is reflective of his personality and his work. He should NOT change one bit. As mentioned elsewhere, Moncton and Morano can lead the PR campaigns on the truth about AGW.
By the way, if not already noted above, John Roberts is a Canadian as well – and his demeanor and approach to reporting has a place as well. Let Mark Stossel, Rex Murphy, Glenn Beck, Jon Stewart and others do the necessary dirty work. (Yeah, Maelstrom Murphy is a Canadian too, but Newfoundland is to Canada as Texas is to the United States)
RE: dbleader61 (13:45:38) :
Yeah, Maelstrom Murphy is a Canadian too, but Newfoundland is to Canada as Texas is to the United States
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You say that like it’s a bad thing 😛
I think some of you guys who are criticising McIntyre and Christy for their cautious views are wearing underwear about three sizes too small.
Relax a little bit.
Its very tempting to try to use the email scandal and the resulting coverage as an opportunity to tear down all of the foundations of the AGW at once. While I strongly sympathize with the sentiment, when skeptics like Steve McIntyre make sweeping accusations or declarations they fall into exactly the same trap as the pro-AGW chorus – that is, turning science into advocacy and politics. The public smelled the bullshit in the air already long before the emails broke.
Make no mistake. The damage from the emails is done; and its deep. The cracks in the scientific foundation of AGW are growing. Whats important is that now that the media recognize they have been misled, it forms a new avenue of reporting for them. Scientific scandal trumps climate catastrophism, especially if it ain’t happening.
So relax. Give it time. Let Mann, Scmidt, Santer, Gore and the other gurus slowly hang themselves. Their days of publishing advocacy disguised as research, uncontested, are over. Transparency, reproducibility and democracy are slowly reasserting themselves. And, judging by the happenings of Copenhagen, their money is about to rapidly dry up.
Steve McIntyre did a good job. Congratulations.
O’Reilly Factor (Laura Ingraham) tearing into the eco-loon – great to see the journos not letting the sweeping assertions go unchallenged
Poptech:
“Maybe I am the only one who has read ClimateAudit and seen McIntyre interviewed before but I am not sure what people are expecting?”
I’d kind of expect him to use what he has so clearly proved: the MBH denied the global Medieval Warming Period and Little Ice Age by using questionable strip pine proxies and invalid data processing algorithms, and that they attempted to hide these facts by denying access to raw data and computer programs, and that the Crutape Letters and code strongly confirm these facts.
If SM does not want to pursue the implications of restoring the historical understanding of MWP and LIA, that’s fine with me; I think others will have no trouble connecting the dots. But his success here is, to me at least, foundational for understanding the need for transparency and due diligence across the board.
Wow, that’s quite the contradiction.
One thing seems clear to me: different people respond differently to different media styles. Just looking at the comments in this thread alone is an indicator of this.
Some like SM’s quiet style. Others prefer something more dramatic such as Monckton or Morano.
Fortunately, we have the choice of both.
And to those who don’t like the way things are being done, you also have a choice. You can choose to do something about it yourself, if it’s important enough to you.
Yes, different people respond to different styles of presentation. Some like Steve or John or Roy; some like Monckton or Morano.
However, the fact is (and it is fact based on lots of media/ influence research) that people with styles like Monckton and Morano convince more people of their views than people with styles like Steve/ John/ Roy.
The problem we have is that Monckton and Morano are not publishing climate scientists. We need published climate scientists who do not agree AGW is proven who are strong presenters — Lindzen is the only one I’ve seen, and that’s not enough.
Who else is there? How can they be sponsored to spend more time informing the public? NOW is the time to get on this… DO NOT imagine that “facts” (CRU info) sell themselves; they do not.
“NOW is the time to get on this…”
I agree. Climategate, as a story, will peter out. Not much there. Steve said so. (twice). On to Crap & Tax.
Jeff Alberts (18:52:44) :
My standard reply, “I believe in God the Father Almighty, His Only Son, Jesus Christ, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of the saints..” (The Apostle’s Creed.)
I then explain I deal with OBJECTIVE FACTS.
Wow, that’s quite the contradiction.
No, he’s separating religion/belief-and-faith from objectivity regarding facts and science.
And suggesting that everyone alleging to do Science should be doing the same thing.
Just had a quick scan on Youube but couldn’t find anything – is there a version online anywhere Anthony for your “international” visitors?
re media coverage
http://www.cashill.com/twa800/climategate.htm
I saw both McIntyre and Christie and thought both were fine. One point I would like to see more emphasis on. Both of these two have had their work available for others to review and criticize. As far as I know everything Steve McIntyre has been on his website and open to all matter of critics. The other side can’t say the same thing.
Has this interview been recorded? I can’t find it anywhere. Anyone have a link please?
My jaw dropped when I saw this;
Has the world really gone mad, without me noticing it?
Is it a joke, like many other things you find on the net, or is it real? ;
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=118659
Kwik,
Just follow the money. Tata stand to gain $2b dollars in climate credits by closing down the Corus steel plant in the UK (which it bought a few years back). The UK is effectively paying Tata to export jobs back to India.
I predict the madness won’t end until half the UK’s jobs have been exported all it’s wealth shaken out by the carbon moguls who are holding the country upside down by the ankles. By that time the great moron Brown will have disappeared into the sunset and will be living very nicely on his taxpayer funded pension, thank you very much.
The irony is that the sheeple are “hoping” for a strong and effective treaty in Copenhagen to fight “climate change” and it is they who will be the victims of this shakedown. Such madness can scarcely be imagined. By comparison the witch hunters of the 17th century seem rational.
This scares me. I dont think the Brits have understood yet that the have signed a law that give them few options;
1) Build many nuclear reactors (Will 10 be enough?)
or
2) Build tens of thousands of windmills …will never suffice…
or
3) Immediate laws where you can win the right to have a child
Typo — change to “wedded” in:
“MCINTYRE: Well, I for one am not particularly whetted to any position.”
Steve, circled wagon teams run out of ammunition. Congratulations on keeping your powder dry.
It is so vitally important at this stage of development to avoid making any hint of a statement that can be seized upon and turned against you.
Some bloggers here think you should have executed a coup de grace on the interview. They are impatient; it was not the time or place; and it is not your function as an auditor.
I would not like playing you at chess, you think too far ahead. (I don’t play your squash, but I guess your success there is largely from strategic thinking also).
brian0707 (14:51:18) :
I think some of you guys who are criticising McIntyre and Christy for their cautious views are wearing underwear about three sizes too small.
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Exactly. The AGW wall has been nearly 30 years in the making. It’s going to have be taken apart brick by brick. The people who have the ability to do that cannot over-state the case. Let’s be frank: no one knows if humans are having or will have a catastrophic affect on the planet’s climate. If for one am dubious. But, it’s going to take another 30 more years of study and data observation for that to be determined. Maybe longer. So for now, you find the weaknesses in the science and you expose them– brick by brick.
McIntyre and Christy are among the few people who have the integrity to persuade people that some things are amiss in climatology. If they show up ranting and raving on CNN, they are not going to convince anyone. It’s becoming clear to me that Warmists have been over-stating the case for decades. McIntyre, Christy et al should not fall into the same trap.