Climategate reaches the British House of Lords

The House of Lords meets in a lavishly decorated chamber, in the Gothic style, in the Palace of Westminster (see below). Image from Wikipedia

There is the issue of the science, which I had previously taken as given; but many people’s faith is being tested. We are often told that the science is settled. I suppose that is what the Inquisition said to Galileo. If so, why are we spending millions of pounds on research? The science is far from settled. – Lord Turnbull Dec 8th 2009

House of Lords, 8 December 2009: Lord Turnbull: My Lords, on first reading the Committee on Climate Change’s latest progress report, I found it an impressive document. It was broad in scope and very detailed. But the more I dug into it the more troubled I became. Below the surface there are serious questions about the foundations on which it has been constructed. There are questions in four areas-the framework created by the Climate Change Act 2008, the policy responses at EU and UK level, the estimate of costs and finally the scientific basis on which the whole scheme of things rests. I will consider each in turn.

Unlike many of those involved in the climate change field, I have no pecuniary interest to declare, but I am a founder trustee of the Global Warming Policy Foundation, which seeks to bring rationality, objectivity and, above all, tolerance to the debate.

I have long been in the camp of what might be called the semi-sceptics. I have taken the science on trust, while becoming increasingly critical of the policy responses being made to achieve a given CO2 or global warming constraint. First, let us look at the Climate Change Act, which has been highly praised, even today, as the most comprehensive and ambitious framework anywhere in the world-a real pioneering first for the UK. However, it has serious flaws. It starts by imposing a completely unworkable duty on the Secretary of State to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80 per cent by 2050, even though many of the actions required lie outside his control. It would have been better, as the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, and I argued, for the duty to be connected to what the Secretary of State can control, such as his own actions and policies, and not the outcome, which he cannot.

In the Act’s passage through Parliament, the target was raised from 60 per cent to 80 per cent, with little discussion of its costs or feasibility. It is a simple arithmetic calculation to show that if the UK economy continues to grow at its historic trend rate, we will need, only 40 years from now, to produce each £1,000 of GDP with only 8 per cent of the carbon we use today. That is a cut of [92] per cent. Many observers think that this is implausible. A recent report by the Institution of Mechanical Engineers reported that the rate of improvement in carbon intensity/productivity would need to quadruple from the 1.3 per cent achieved in the five years up to the recession to around 5.5 per cent. It would need to be even higher at the end of the period to make up for what the noble Lord, Lord May, calls falling behind the run rate.

Professor Dieter Helm has pointed out that the measurement system used in the Kyoto framework and in the UK’s carbon accounts is a misleading guide to what is really being achieved. The carbon accounts use the territorial method-that is, the emissions from UK territory. In this way, the UK is able to claim that CO2 emissions have been reduced, but that is a misleading way of measuring a nation’s carbon footprint and its impact on the world. It should include the carbon in its imports. If this was done it would show that we are going backwards, since we would be forced to take responsibility for the manufacturing that we have outsourced to such countries as China but are still consuming. The current method is, of course, politically very convenient as it allows us to label China as the world’s largest emitter. The embedded carbon calculation is, I accept, far more complicated, but it is far more honest.

Benches in the House of Lords Chamber are coloured red. In contrast, the House of Commons is decorated in green. Image from Wikipedia.

Another flaw in the framework is that the targets are unconditional. It is a legal duty, irrespective of what other countries achieve. Some, including me, argue that there should be two targets: one of which is a commitment, and a higher one which we will argue for internationally but only undertake as part of an agreement. Ironically, this is precisely the approach that the EU is taking with its 20 per cent reduction target by 2020, which would be raised to 30 per cent as part of an international agreement. The danger is that by going it alone we could face a double whammy, paying for decarbonising our own economy, yet still having to pay for the costs of raising our sea defences if others do not follow suit.

Secondly, let us consider the specific policies that have been adopted. Current EU policy follows two inconsistent paths. On the one hand, the ETS seeks to establish a common price for CO2, against which various competing technologies can be measured. The market share of each is determined by the relative costs. This is attractive to economists, since it allows the cost per tonne of CO2 abated to be equalised at the margin, thereby ensuring that the cost of achieving any CO2 target is minimised. The problem is that, despite its theoretical attractions, the ETS is failing. It provides no clear signal on the price of carbon on which investors can base their decisions. The committee, in this report, estimates that the ETS CO2 price in 2020 will be around €22 per tonne. The committee has rightly identified the central contradiction in its own report: the carbon price will be too low and too uncertain to stimulate the low-carbon investments needed to validate the committee’s projections.

At the same time, the EU is following a different approach under its 20:20:20 plan-to achieve a 20 per cent reduction in CO2 by 2020, with 20 per cent of energy coming from renewables. In this way, it predetermines a market share for a technology-renewables-rather than letting the merit order decide. The danger is that in pressing to achieve this target, which implies that over 30 per cent of electricity generation will come from renewables, some renewables capacity will be created which will be more expensive than other responses.

There is also a lack of clarity about the true cost of wind power, once we factor in the cost of retaining a large amount of underutilised conventional capacity, and the extension of the grid. The noble Lord, Lord Reay, has said more than enough on that so I do not need to follow that line of argument.

There is illogicality in the treatment of nuclear energy in the climate change levy. It is ridiculous that nuclear power, as a low-carbon source, is still in the taxable box. For 50 years, a major experiment has been conducted just 20 miles off our coast. France has generated three-quarters of its electricity from nuclear power. The French believe that it has been a huge success, delivering electricity which is secure, cheap and stable in price. France’s carbon intensity is 0.3 of a tonne per $1,000 of GDP, compared to 0.42 in the UK, 0.51 in Germany-so much for it being a market leader-and 0.63 in the US. However, the French option has barely been considered in this country.

As part of the EU plan, 10 per cent of road fuel is mandated to come from biofuels, but by the time this was enacted the credibility of first-generation biofuels had collapsed. Finally, our policy framework lacks balance. It is almost exclusively focused on mitigation through CO2 reduction, The Institution of Mechanical Engineers has argued for what it calls a MAG approach, with effort being committed not just to mitigation but to adaptation and geo-engineering.

Thirdly, there is the issue of cost. All we had to go on at the time when the target was set more ambitiously was the estimate by the noble Lord, Lord Stern, of 1 per cent of GDP. Many people were sceptical at the time and probably even more are now, including, it seems, the noble Lord, Lord Stern, himself. It was reported in the press last week that he now thinks that it might be 2 per cent, but could rise to 5 per cent. I hope he will clarify this when he speaks to us shortly.

In the document that we have before us, the committee says that it previously estimated that costs in 2020 would be about 1 per cent of GDP. That is consistent with its view that it might get to 2 per cent by 2050. In the new report it simply reaffirms the 1 per cent figure in just one paragraph in 250 pages. That is it. I have to say to the noble Lords, Lord Krebs and Lord May, that I do not think that that is adequate. It is difficult to relate these figures to what we are observing on the ground about the difficulties and costs of bringing on stream different technologies such as offshore wind and CCS.

One of the problems bedevilling the debate is the lack of transparency over the huge cross-subsidies that are being created by the renewables obligation and the regime for feed-in tariffs. There is no assurance that their extent is commensurate with the benefits in CO2 abated. My electricity costs me 11p per kilowatt hour. If I erected a wind turbine, I could sell the power I produced to the grid for a whopping 23p. I think I would go out and buy a gizmo which linked my inward meter to my outward meter. That excess cost is averaged over the bills of consumers as a whole, but how much is it in total, or for individual consumers? Here I differ from the noble Lord, Lord May. The whole issue of cost must be given far more attention. The Government cannot ask people to make radical changes to their lifestyle without being more open about the costs that they are being asked to bear.

I accept that “do nothing” is not the right option. Some measures, such as energy efficiency, heat recovery from waste and biomass, and stopping deforestation are probably justified on their own merits. More nuclear power which, in turn, would open the way for electrification of our transport fleet would enhance security of supply. Other measures may be justified as pure insurance, given the uncertainty that we face. But what is badly needed is a consistent metric that allows us to judge whether any given objective is being achieved at minimum cost. The recent book by Professor MacKay, the newly appointed scientific adviser at DECC, provides an excellent starting point. I also very much welcome the intervention by the noble Earl, Lord Selborne, debunking the waste hierarchy and the act of faith that that embodies.

There is the issue of the science, which I had previously taken as given; but many people’s faith is being tested. We are often told that the science is settled. I suppose that is what the Inquisition said to Galileo. If so, why are we spending millions of pounds on research? The science is far from settled. There are major controversies not just about the contribution of CO2, on which most of the debate is focused, but about the influence of other factors such as water vapour, or clouds-the most powerful greenhouse gas-ocean currents and the sun, together with feedback effects which can be negative as well as positive.

Worse still, there are even controversies about the basic data on temperature. The series going back one, 10 or 100,000 years are, in the genuine sense of the word, synthetic. They are not direct observations but are melded together from proxies such as ice cores, ocean sediments and tree rings.

Given the extent to which the outcome is affected by the statistical techniques and the weightings applied by individual researchers, it is essential that the work is done as transparently as possible, with the greatest scope for challenge. That is why the disclosure of documents and e-mails from the Climatic Research Unit is so disturbing. Instead of an open debate, a picture is emerging of selective use of data, efforts to silence critics, and particularly a refusal to share data and methodologies.

It is essential that these allegations are independently and rigorously investigated. Naturally, I welcome the appointment of my old colleague, Sir Muir Russell, to lead this investigation; a civil servant with a physics degree is a rare beast indeed. He needs to establish what the documents really mean and recommend changes in governance and transparency which will restore confidence in the integrity of the data. This is not just an academic feud in the English department from a Malcolm Bradbury novel. The CRU is a major contributor to the IPCC process. The Government should not see this as a purely university matter. They are the funders of much of this research and their climate change policies are based on it.

We need to purge the debate of the unpleasant religiosity that surrounds it, of scientists acting like NGO activists, of propaganda based on fear, for example, the quite disgraceful government advertisement which tried to frighten young children-the final image being the family dog being drowned-and of claims about having “10 days to save the world”. Crude insults from the Prime Minister do not help.

The noble Lords, Lord Krebs and Lord May, and their eminent colleagues on the CCC have a choice. They can take the policy framework as given, the policy responses as given, the costs as given, and the science as given, and then proceed to churn out more and more sophisticated projections, or-as I hope-they can apply the formidable intellectual firepower they command and start to find answers to many of the unsolved questions.

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Imran
December 10, 2009 5:45 pm

As a Brit, I feel a real sense of pride when I read such a balanced piece of oratory. These institutions, which have been in place for centuries, function so well at providing the checks and balances that are required to prevent is being lead down a route of self destruction.
It is not without reason that those same people who would dictate to us how we should live our lives are also so vehemently opposed to the whole concept of the House of Lords.

Indiana Bones
December 10, 2009 5:47 pm

“I…hope-they can apply the formidable intellectual firepower they command and start to find answers to many of the unsolved questions.”
Here here!
PaulH (17:19:32) :
“I have this belief that once the flow of money to global warming “research” is terminated, the alleged threat of AGW will vanish as well.”
Suggesting an experiment: If we were to announce tomorrow a fund of $78B to investigate the imminent end of the Holocene and the likely advent of the next ice age… What results from eminent scientists would arrive? Any theories?

Peter B
December 10, 2009 5:53 pm

I very much doubt that words of wisdom in the House of Lords will have much effect on the House of Commons. Lord Nigel Lawson has been a high-profile outspoken critic of the AGW “orthodoxy” for some time, and the reaction of the Conservative (his party) leadership has been to distance themselves from his views. All of the three main parties have voted with huge majorities in the Commons to make the absurd target of 80% CO2 reductions by 2050 into law. The Conservative leader (and very likely next prime minister) David Cameron has long embraced AGW as a tactic to out-flank Labour politically – and Labour wasn’t inclined to argue against AGW in any case. The result is the near-absence of any dissent on this matter in the House of Commons, by anyone. It is a dire state of affairs and it illustrates how far the UK has fallen in terms of rationaility in its political discourse. Predictably, The Economist has consolidated its intellectual decline by dismissing Climategate as of little importance after mentioning it only once.

Robert of Ottawa
December 10, 2009 5:57 pm

AdderW (17:23:08) :
Oh, an actual prediction…
Next year to be the world’s warmest on record, Met Office predicts

AdderW, they make the same prediction every year. One day, they might be right. They haven’t been so far. And, of course, they didn’t predict the El Nino year 1998.

Robert of Ottawa
December 10, 2009 6:02 pm

I liked the dig at the arrogant Stern:
Unlike many of those involved in the climate change field, I have no pecuniary interest to declare

Hmmm
December 10, 2009 6:02 pm

Wow that was well spoken and even eloquent. I didn’t know it could be stated so clearly! It sounds like he may have some confidence in Sir Muir Russell’s review unless that was just a buttered-up prod.
Exactly to the point, we can’t skew the statistics to tell one side of the story. Show both sides and the uncertainty using generally acceptable statistical techniques. This can only be done through complete transparency and that is exactly what the people in the CRU scandal torpedoed.

yonason
December 10, 2009 6:04 pm

Michael (15:41:31) :
From your reference:
“More than 1,700 scientists have agreed to sign a statement defending the “professional integrity” of global warming research.”
Because there’s really no need to wait for any silly old investigation, now is there?

Zeke the Sneak
December 10, 2009 6:04 pm

This is a demolition! My favorite zingers:
“It starts by imposing a completely unworkable duty on the Secretary of State to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80 per cent by 2050, even though many of the actions required lie outside his control.”
“All we had to go on at the time when the target was set more ambitiously was the estimate by the noble Lord, Lord Stern, of 1 per cent of GDP…It was reported in the press last week that he now thinks that it might be 2 per cent, but could rise to 5 per cent.”
“Worse still, there are even controversies about the basic data on temperature. The series going back one, 10 or 100,000 years are, in the genuine sense of the word, synthetic.”
We have a saying here in the States, reserved for the most serious of moments and meant with utmost respect:
“I love ya man!”

December 10, 2009 6:09 pm

Sorry, o/t, but I recorded a BBC climategate radio programme featuring Bishop Hill and McIntyre, and uploaded it to a friend’s web space for non UK residents. Only listened to part of it myself. Will get time later.
10mb, volume maximised
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tlr.chalmers/bbcclimategate.mp3

Gary Hladik
December 10, 2009 6:12 pm

jrshipley (16:12:08) : “Emails not quoted by conspiracy theorists (sorta hard to spin/twist/distort these), which Lord Turnbull might look at:”
Thanks for showing us that these fine climate scientists were faithful to the ideals of their profession except when they weren’t.
And this just in: It turns out Tiger Woods was completely faithful to his wife between trysts with his girlfriends.

timheyes
December 10, 2009 6:18 pm

I have a recurring thought which pops into my mind every so often and it’s this:
If all of these carbon reduction objectives which are being haggled about in Copenhagen are based on such settled science. If the “teh end of the world” is so certain, why doesn’t the goverment just invoke the high carbon taxes needed to cut our carbon use? Why don’t they convert 50% of our farmland to biofuels and double food prices? Why don’t they double or treble road tax? Why don’t they tax aviation fuel?
Since the future is so certain, any country which is an early adopter will steal a march on other countries in converting to a low carbon economy by reorganising its economic infrastructure and advancing its low carbon technology. This will give it a competitive advantage over other countries in a low carbon world. So why not just do it?
I’m calling the governments bluff. Do it and see how long you’re in office when people have to actually pay for this. So we’ll be in recession for a decade instead of a few months. Surely it worth it to save the world?
There is no need for Copenhagen. The future is certain. Why wait for everyone else to “get with the program”?
Failure to do enact rigourous carbon reduction programs indicates that the government are deferring their political responsibilites to scientists who promote the IPCC hypothesis on AGW. They’ve been told that this problem is THE most serious problem facing the world, therefore not acting is criminally negligent.
Go on. Just get on with it. I dare you.

Alan
December 10, 2009 6:20 pm

It has been reported in some of the “warm mongering” media that the Russian FSB is responsible for the hacking of the CRU computers. It’s not true, but if it had been, then finally, after the demise of the Soviet Union the heirs of the Checka/GRU/NKVD/Smerch, KGB, i.e. the Russian intelligence establishment, would have done some good for the common man.
P.s. I used the term “warm mongering” because I would like to see it spread too.

chainpin
December 10, 2009 6:30 pm

OT but a must read from SM on HTD:
http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/ipcc-and-the-trick/

Alan
December 10, 2009 6:31 pm

I posted this in the Daily Telegraph a few days ago:
I appreciate that most people are appalled with the content of the emails etc. exposed in this scandal. For me, however, the willingness of these scientists to load peer review committees with fellow travellers so as to suppress dissenting opinion is the worst crime of all. It brings the entire edifice of science into question, whilst requiring everyone to accept their pronouncements on faith.
I wonder when we will be reading the first IPCC Bull or fatwa.

Michael
December 10, 2009 6:41 pm

Now this is going to hit them warming zealots where it really hurts. All state legislators should follow suit.
‘Climategate’ Accusations Could Affect Penn State Funding
http://www.wjactv.com/news/21924623/detail.html

AdderW
December 10, 2009 6:45 pm

It seems to me, and it is all becoming very clear to me now, here is how the scam was going to work:
1. Mann scares the world about global warming “caused by CO2”.
2. Mann is a real hero.
3. The UN jumps on the bandwagon and IPCC is created
4. Massive taxes are being enforced, resulting in cuts in the production of CO2 the main cause of global warming, as we all “know”.
5. The earth’s atmosphere starts to cool, (has nothing to do with CO2 and Mann knows that) -“yey, we managed to do it in time, we saved the world, thank you Mann” chants his followers
6. Mann is a real hero again
7. Mann counts his money and laughs together with his peers.
so he gains on both the “warming” and the cooling

steve
December 10, 2009 6:48 pm

To Jpshipley…yes, Mann, Briffa, WIgley, Jones, et all wrote some non-incriminating emails that spoke of higher standards…
Perhaps you would like to have them all honored for not robbing a bank, as well?

December 10, 2009 6:58 pm

again – another Brit here to support the other posts about the stability of the upper chamber. We throw this away at our peril. Great speech.
I thouight the CNN clip above was good too – reasonably balanced and one of the major broadcasters (CNN) now realising there is an issue to be discussed.
Oh – agreed – it is going to be fascinating to discover the story of the leak….

AndrewG
December 10, 2009 7:01 pm

restores my faith in peerage

Michael
December 10, 2009 7:15 pm

I missed this one yesterday. CBS News shows some of Mann’s Hide the Decline youtube video, oh my.
“Climate-Gate” a Hot Debate
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5955742n&tag=contentMain;contentBody

Michael
December 10, 2009 7:18 pm
CalGrad
December 10, 2009 7:18 pm

Good meaty sanity. Refreshing.

Michael
December 10, 2009 7:22 pm

Sorry, Wrong link to “Midwest Storm Leaves Bitter Cold”. See their link in the player. Global Warming? Where is it?

DaveE
December 10, 2009 7:29 pm

I think Lord Turnbull is one of the few hereditary peers left. I mentioned on an earlier thread that they provided a moderating influence on the excesses on both sides of the political divide, I think this shows that.
DaveE.