NASA GISS Gavin Schmidt vs UAH’s John Christy debate on CNN’s Situation Room an hour ago:
h/t to WUWT reader Chris
Gavin Schmidt -vs- John Christy on CNN
- Sunday, February 8, 2026
NASA GISS Gavin Schmidt vs UAH’s John Christy debate on CNN’s Situation Room an hour ago:
h/t to WUWT reader Chris
The Fiction of Climate Science:
http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/03/climate-science-gore-intelligent-technology-sutton.html?mn
Nicely written article at Forbes.
Finally there is a debate happening in public over AGW. And every time that happens people mostly side with ‘skeptics’.
This debate wasn’t perfect but we have to stop expecting perfect.
We are winning!!
I feel so good about that!
They agreed about the most important thing:
the ignorance of climatology.
This ignorance will not go away until productive research on natural climate variations is permitted to flourish (via sufficient funding, in contrast with the malicious obstruction we see currently).
I would encourage Christy to read the works of Sidorenkov, Barkin, Klyastorin, & other Russian scientists. The Russians have a superior understanding of north-south climate oscillations. Don’t stop at 2 or 3 Barkin articles; download dozens. (Some of them are hard to find.)
Christy got some good points in – particularly about the models. He could have been a bit more aggressive but as someone else said, he came across as cool and calm while Gavin to me looked like the a-wipe he apparently is.
Who would you trust with your life? Your fortune? Your kids? Who would you rather sit next to on a plane for 5 hours? Christy wins hands down. Gavin’s personifies the arrogant, pointy headed intellectual who knows nothing about the real world.
typo: Klyashtorin
CO2 Realist (17:33:38) :
– Why is Gavin Schmidt defending the CRU guys?
He’s in the CRU emails. He’s in ClimateGate up to his eyes.
I think Gavin inhaled some spit just after he said that nobody in science got paid for doing what everyone else is doing.
Hold on isn’t that exactly what they are all getting paid for with big government research grants. Nobody gets paid by the government for trying to disprove global warming.
Gore at CNN, 50% of CO2 in our atmosphere is human made! The fact is it’s 3%!!!
RDay (17:40:05) :
I thought Christy showed great restraint and didn’t pull a Watson because I must have told the tv to shut up at least 4 times. I leave it to the reader to guess who was talking at those points.
I didn’t keep it to only saying the two words “shut up”.
Wolf Blitzer hasn’t a clue.
This was about as pathetic a set of question as anyone could have come up with.
Here is part 2:
It seemed to be just a another forum for a Global Warming Advocate to voice his position to me. Christy didn’t say much, while Gavin rambled on and on.
UN Sweeps ClimateGate under the Carpet:
http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=2217
Did you expect anything else from this bunch of liars?
I am part of the public that has very little experience with science in regards to global warning. I have been lurking on many sites trying to have some understanding of this situation.
My opinion of the debate between Christy and Schmidt is that Christy came off as an honest person. He acted as if being on TV was not a normal event for him, however, I listened more when he spoke. He just seemed honest and open.
Gavin Schmidt came off as someone trying to sell me something. Didn’t sound solid in what he was saying.
Michael,
Gavin Schmidt and the rest are paid in small part with public tax money. The problem is, they are also paid a lot more by outside foundations, NGOs and individuals, like George Soros, who all have a heavy AGW agenda.
They can’t serve two masters. So who gets their money’s worth? The public, who pays their scientists’ salary? Or the ones paying them millions to promote the highly questionable conjecture that CO2 causes global warming?
The result: money talks, and the public be damned.
I think Dr Christy could have answered the ‘polar ice’ question much better. I think a reference to the fact that it is cyclical, not an ‘unprecedented’ occurance since we know the polar ice cap was equally small or smaller earlier in the 20th century, i.e., Northwest passage was open in 1940 but is closed now would have gone a long way to obliterate the point.
GAVIN SCHMIDT: “No scientist makes a living by going around agreeing with everybody else’s work.”
Hahaha. Did he really just say that??
Yeah….most scientists don’t make a living that way…except those within your climate club, Gavin…..where group-think gets you all the $$$ you need for your projects.
Its nice to have you slither out from under your rock over at RC for a spell and show yourself for you really are in these interviews.
Very telling.
We see the grin…
We feel the contempt for those that take you task…
We hear the charlatan antics in your nervous explanations.
Your reign is about to end.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Sorry for the OT.
A MUST SEE
A first look at gridded data from the Met Office Land Surface Temperature Record
http://www.jgc.org/blog/2009/12/first-look-at-gridded-data-from-met.html
Open Source, plotted using KML file in GoogleEarth!
correction: “show yourself for who you really are”
TheGoodLocust th (18:51:46) :I watched the IQ^2 debate with Gavin and decided at that point he was a complete slimeball.
I saw the debate where Lindzen, Stott and Crichton took on Gavin and two other warmistas and I remember 3 things from it clearly.
1. No one could beat Crichton on getting a clear message across
2. At the end of the debate Stott put Gavin down like a rabid dog
3. The Skeptics won the debate
It is unfortunate that Dr. Bob Carter was not invited to debate Gavin Schmidt.
AGW Religion Rule One
Never discuss the science
attack the man
Repeat the mantra
It is left as an exercise for the student to determine the practitioner of Rule One.
IMO the fact that CNN put John Christy on The Situation Room with Blitzer is in itself a fairly significant step in the right direction: That program is definitely mainstream, and a LOT of people watch it.
And I agree with multiple prior comments: Especially given the time limitations of the Sit Room format, on the whole Christy came across as comfortable, confident, and especially:
He sounded like a professional scientist.
Not only Gavin not so much:
The constract between Christy and Schmidt was striking, with Gavin very much looking and sounding nervous, touchy, defensive, and . . . . yeah: Guilty. . . .
Bob Tisdale (17:41:45) :
“The major postive to ClimateGate:
Skeptics are back in front of TV cameras.”
Great point. You know, that is exactly what I was thinking. The Skeptics are actually on the air, in front of the people and at the very least showing that there is a rational other side to the story. And, anyone with a slightly open mind might look further. And when people get wind of the true cost of alarmism they might have second thoughts about relying on questionable science.
GAVIN SCHMIDT: “We do know that greenhouse gasses are increasing because of human activity….we do know that the climate is warming…we do know that its warming for the reasons basic physics tells us that it’s warming.”
Circular reasoning at its best!
He should think about going into politics. He would be right at home!
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
I wonder if I will see a news story on the evening news titled “Main Stream Media Scooped By the Internet on Climategate”?
I guess we will never again see like it was back then, when reporters used to compete with each other to get the scoop on a story, sort of like this at 3:05 in this movie clip;
Airplane! – Movie Trailer