News from Copenhagen: Denmark rife with CO2 fraud

Gosh, who could have predicting this? Oh, wait, haven’t we we heard this same thing months before in Britain? See this WUWT story.

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The Copenhagen Post

Tuesday, 01 December 2009 10:08 DN News

http://www-nlpir.nist.gov/projects/tv2006/pastdata/topics/examples.from.outside.the.collection/factory_smokestack1.jpgScams in many countries are subject to investigation by authorities

Authorities in several countries investigate VAT tax fraud stemming from the Danish CO2 quota register

Denmark is the centre of a comprehensive tax scam involving CO2 quotas, in which the cheats exploit a so-called ‘VAT carrousel’, reports Ekstra Bladet newspaper.

Police and authorities in several European countries are investigating scams worth billions of kroner, which all originate in the Danish quota register. The CO2 quotas are traded in other EU countries.

Denmark’s quota register, which the Energy Agency within the Climate and Energy Ministry administers, is the largest in the world in terms of personal quota registrations. It is much easier to register here than in other countries, where it can take up to three months to be approved.

Ekstra Bladet reporters have found examples of people using false addresses and companies that are in liquidation, which haven’t been removed from the register.

One of the cases, which stems from the Danish register, involves fraud of more than 8 billion kroner. This case, in which nine people have been arrested, is being investigated in England.

The market for CO2 trade has exploded in recent years and is worth an estimated 675 billion kroner globally.

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December 1, 2009 10:16 pm

Tip of the iceberg – er – shall we say. Global estimates of black-economy activity are around 10% of the white-economy figures. So if total carbon trading is around 675B, this rule of thumb suggests that there’s another 60B waiting for an eager sleuth or three to investigate. Wear body armour – mafioso tend to be extensively weaponised.

Richard
December 1, 2009 10:18 pm

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Dave Johnson
December 1, 2009 10:19 pm

Just when you think it can’t get any better! And there is a headline on the CRU fraud in a major UK paper today http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573

Richard
December 1, 2009 10:39 pm
December 1, 2009 10:39 pm

Prime example of what is in store for the US if congress passes a climate bill.

Leon Brozyna
December 1, 2009 10:46 pm

After reading the damning indictment of all the activities revealed in Lord Monckton’s summary discussion of Climategate, this latest apparent act of fraud is just the icing on the cake.

Leon
December 1, 2009 10:55 pm

Why is it these articles always show an exhaust stack or cooling tower emitting a big plume? CO2 is invisible. The caption for the photo should correctly identify the plume of greenhouse gas being emitted as … Wait for it … Water vapor 🙂

Michael
December 1, 2009 10:58 pm

Thank You Richard Nixon for giving us Watergate. You helped us with giving us the perfect name for the climate conspiracy, Climategate.

Leon Brozyna
December 1, 2009 11:01 pm

After reading the lengthy indictment of all the activities revealed in Lord Monckton’s summary discussion of Climategate, as well as that earlier piece of that scam in the UK, this latest apparent act of fraud is just the icing on the cake.
Fraud begets fraud begets fraud … and so on.

Patrick Davis
December 1, 2009 11:05 pm

“Richard (22:39:42) :
Jones has gone!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8389727.stm
I know the headline says stepped down, which is resignation in effect, the story states he’s stepped asside while an investigation is carried out. He’s still there.
From the article: “Professor Jones said: “The first thing to point out is that this refers to one diagram – not a scientific paper.
“The word ‘trick’ was used here colloquially as in a clever thing to do. It is ludicrous to suggest that it refers to anything untoward.”
No disrespect to him however, I believe he’s missing the issue in contention. It’s not just the word “trick”, it is *EVERYTHING* else, data, loss of data, recreation of data, altering of data, making data up etc etc, which brings in to question the practices at the CRU. If it was just *ONLY* the word “trick” which was the issue discovered then I am sure there would be no contention at all.

Daphne
December 1, 2009 11:07 pm

Since we don’t use VAT (value added tax) in the U.S., I had to do some quick research to understand what this means. For anyone else who needs a primer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_trader_fraud

rbateman
December 1, 2009 11:13 pm

Crime under the cover of C02.
Something tells me that since Climate Change is based on a hoax, the ratio will be inverted. 9 Black trades for every White one.
Shut it down before it gets started. A stitch in time saves 9.

Deadman
December 1, 2009 11:19 pm

Over at realclimate, a comment, by one George Ortega suggests:
[blockquote]An unapologetically draconian Climate Change Misinformation Act (CCMA) [which] would make it illegal for media corporations and large organizations to deny […] the reality and seriousness of global warming.
[…]
In order to attack the bill, its opponents would need to show that global warming is not happening, that it is not caused by humans, that it does not represent a serious threat to civilization as we know it, and that it does not need to be strongly and quickly addressed. […]

[Response: I can’t support this […]. Your intentions are good, but you are proposing an Orwellian system that is quite frightening. This is exactly the kind of thing that the crazies out there would like to believe that mainstream scientists and environmentalists (not the same thing, by the way) want. Please don’t help stoke their deluded fantasies!–eric]

“Your intentions are good”! “Deluded fantasies”!
This, it seems, is what comes from using terms such as “denial.”

AndyOH
December 1, 2009 11:27 pm

Michael (22:58:50)
Correct me if I’m wrong but Nixon also create the E.P.A. ?

Richard
December 1, 2009 11:27 pm

Richard (22:39:42) : Please distinguish yourself from me. Methinks since you are the newcomer put an initial after your name to distinguish yourself. 🙂 – Richard

Robert Tarbuck
December 1, 2009 11:31 pm

Thank You Richard Nixon for giving us Watergate. You helped us with giving us the perfect name for the climate conspiracy, Climategate.
Yes, because it’s a phrase that’s never been overused to describe scandals! Come on now. How about Climatefraud? Or Climatebollocks? Enough with the -gates!

tokyoboy
December 1, 2009 11:36 pm

I strongly doubt that there are any “authorities” that can truthfully and correctly “investigate” these sorts of issues.

Tenuc
December 1, 2009 11:37 pm

This is perfect timing for the Copenhagen talks. The EU is riddled with corruption anyway, so no real surprise here.
Time to end the AGW con and to break up the un-democratic EU.
Surprised to see the headline on the front cover of the Express this morning:-
THE BIG CLIMATE CHANGE ‘FRAUD’
We are not to blame says top scientist…
It’s a con to raise tax
The Express is normally a pro-AGW newspaper, so this is a real surprise – a change of heart, or CYA???

tokyoboy
December 1, 2009 11:42 pm

Anyone in the know, please tell me who, when, and in which article, named this fiasco “Climategate.”

JBean
December 2, 2009 12:00 am

Welcome to the new mafia, same as the old mafia, except that you will be knee-capped with a hockey stick.

Johnny Honda
December 2, 2009 12:17 am

@Daphne
Thanks for this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_trader_fraud
As far as i know it (I’m not an economist), a VAT carousel can be installed without CO2-trading, it can be done with any good.
But CO2-trading increases bureaucracy, and this I don’t want.

Ted Annonson
December 2, 2009 12:23 am

Please don’t fall into the semantic trap that the AGW people placed in the Climate Realists way. AGW (Mann made global warming) is the subject, not climate change or global warming.
Nobody believes that it’s no warmer than it was during the LIA, that’s global warming. During my 80+ years, it warmed up during the 30’s and 40’s, it cooled durlng the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and warmed up since then; thats climate change.

tokyoboy
December 2, 2009 12:25 am

I suspect Anthony and the Team are too busy in coming days & weeks to finalize the surface station summary. But that’s all right.

Julian Flood
December 2, 2009 12:31 am

In the Daily express article mentioned above by Dave Johnson (22:19:00) we have this:
quote But Vicky Pope, head of Met Office Climate Change Advice, said: “We are seeing changes in climate on a timescale we have not seen before.
“There clearly are natural variations. But the only way we can explain these trends is when we include both man-made and natural changes to the climate.
“We have also seen declines in summer sea ice over the past 30 years, glaciers retreating for 150 years, changing rainfall patterns and increases in subsurface and surface ocean temperatures.” unquote
Now that’s a clever trick — that nice man Tamino (you should visit his blog and ask questions, he answered mine very promptly) calculated the CO2 forcing for the period 1910 to 1940, .25 watts/m^2, and 1970 to 2000, 2 watts/m^2.
So, Dr Pope, what made the glaciers retreat between 1850 and 1910? Surely the human CO2 forcing between those dates was vanishingly small. I see that you are an expert in climate modelling, so perhaps you could explain? What exactly was the anthropogenic climate forcing at that time? If it helps, the average annual human CO2 load was less than a gigatonne.
It can’t have been CO2. So what was it?
JF

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