From the Times of India – a “put up or shut up” moment – “we’ll go along if you pay us”.
Excerpts below:
BEIJING: In an unprecedented move, India on Saturday joined China and two other developing countries to prepare for a major offensive on rich nations at the Copenhagen conference on climate change next month.
The four countries, which include Brazil and South Africa, agreed to a strategy that involves jointly walking out of the conference if the developed nations try to force their own terms on the developing world, Jairam Ramesh, the Indian minister for environment and forests (independent charge), said.
“We will not exit in isolation. We will co-ordinate our exit if any of our non-negotiable terms is violated. Our entry and exit will be collective,” Ramesh told reporters in Beijing.
The move comes after reports suggested that rich nations led by Denmark are trying to set the agenda of the conference by presenting a draft containing a set of specific proposals.
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The four nations issued a joint press release, which made it clear the developed nations should be ready to contribute funds and share green technology if they expected the developing and poor nations to take major actions on environmental protection.
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The developing nations will also not accept any pressure from developed countries to establish legally binding emission targets at Copenhagen. Developing countries want to be allowed to reduce emissions voluntarily and take what they consider to be “nationally appropriate actions” he said.
Ramesh said India will under no circumstances accept the concept of a peaking year under which each country will have to indicate on what date they will reach the highest level of pollution before beginning to come down.
India will also not accept any unsupported mitigation actions without any effort by developed countries to provide funds and technology support to improve environment in developing nations.
Read the complete article at the Times of India
The only good outcome for the free world is that this coalition DOES walk out. Otherwise, the UN will become China’s proxy world ruling body. The US, UK, Australia, Canada, Germany and others will be relegated as the new sources of slave labor. Productivity will plumet. Wealth will shift or simply evaporate. Oh, heck…I’m describing my nightmare scenario.
Hope and change.
Crosspatch,
“Opps, I believe those numbers were in thousands of metric tons.”
Well, your point is clear nonetheless, and it ties in quite well with a brief outline of this history of economic growth. If we take the Mongolia economy as equivalent to the American economy in the nineteenth century, the key point is that contrary to the rantings of Malthusians, a economic growth does NOT lead to a linear increase in weight of goods consumed. What actually happens is that the ratio of weight/gdp gets progressively smaller.
This is because the value added to the raw materials of an iPod, is vastly greater than the value added to the raw materials of a table. This is a good thing. Logically therefore, Americans should be praised, not punished for their behaviour.
Sorry if this is OT, but I couldn’t decide the most appropriate thread. I need to point out that Rajendra K Pachauri, the IPCC chairman, has been awarded an honorary Doctorate degree from University of East Anglia. Now *there’s* a smoking gun.
“Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!”
Tomorrow is December 3rd. With the Senate debate on the CPRS in progress in Australia I’ll point out that Dec 3rd is a significant date for Australians. See here:
http://www.visitvictoria.com/displayobject.cfm/objectid.000C8C2A-5149-1F16-800180C476A90000/
Note the beautiful flag flown by the Free Australians who were mad as hell and weren’t going to take it any more.
The irony is that it is China, India and Brazil that are going to be far worse off if we get a 4C temperature rise by 2150. Then it will be war, and they will lose badly.
I haven’t read this thread yet, but methinks they are unwilling to cripple their own future prosperity based on a “promise” of future funds from the UN/Robin Hood entities that are set to be the go-betweens, supposedly shoveling funds from the “rich” west to the rest of the world.
There wouldn’t be any accountability or oversight for those go-betweeners, right?
Right. Now, back to the top.